Thanks for the game this evening guys :D
Sorry for being such an ass about this lag-issue, mostly with regard to you CoolHand since you tagged along with me. I feel bad for being such a bad SL. You run faithfully along my side covering me, only to see me stand stiff for a while, sometimes in the middle of gunfire, and sometimes when you count on me covering you... :(
Sorry to bother others about it, but it just drives me nuts! I have killed every spareable process, I have even killed explorer.exe and run the game from the Taskmanager. I only have a minimal amount of services running - a completely clean system. Normally the game runs nicely, but sometimes it just does this shit. it freezes for 5-10 seconds, the sounds jitters/loops, and after 5-10 seconds the game just explodes in movement. Anyone else who has this problem? :blink:
I have the following specs:
AMD XP3000+ Barton core
2 x 512MB PC3200 DDR
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe
Asus Radeon 9600XT 128MB
2 x Hitachi 120GB in SATA RAID
My primary concern was hardware interrupt conficts, but cant find any... As I said, it doesn't occur every time (?) Please, if you have any idea, spill!
What sound card?
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What sound card?
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That nVidia Soundstorm chip built into the mobo. I think it is AC97 compliant. Normally it works fine. I have never had any AC97-related problems?
I have the lastest service packs and updates including for my graphics card, chipset, controller etc.
QuoteOriginally posted by delanvital@Jul 25 2005, 11:41 PM
Thanks for the game this evening guys :D
Sorry for being such an ass about this lag-issue, mostly with regard to you CoolHand since you tagged along with me. I feel bad for being such a bad SL. You run faithfully along my side covering me, only to see me stand stiff for a while, sometimes in the middle of gunfire, and sometimes when you count on me covering you... :(
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Hey, no problem at all!
I played for nearly three hours straight, and I had great fun! I'll definitely come back for more later. As for the lag, I got shot up so many times out of my own stupid mistakes, so don't worry about it (I actually tried taking out a tank with my shotgun, not realising I had changed kits since the last spawn.... I got the machine gunner, though :P
I need a bit more experience before I try myself as a SL. For now, I really enjoy being one of the grunts.
I have played BF before, but BF 2 with decent voicecomm and people wanting to work as a team is a whole other (better and much more fun) experience.
I had great fun! :D
Kindest regards,
Dag-Heine
alias Cool Hand
Writing from the city of Bergen, Norway
QuoteOriginally posted by delanvital@Jul 25 2005, 11:41 PM
Sorry to bother others about it, but it just drives me nuts! I have killed every spareable process, I have even killed explorer.exe and run the game from the Taskmanager. I only have a minimal amount of services running - a completely clean system. Normally the game runs nicely, but sometimes it just does this shit. it freezes for 5-10 seconds, the sounds jitters/loops, and after 5-10 seconds the game just explodes in movement. Anyone else who has this problem? :blink:
I have the following specs:
AMD XP3000+ Barton core
2 x 512MB PC3200 DDR
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe
Asus Radeon 9600XT 128MB
2 x Hitachi 120GB in SATA RAID
My primary concern was hardware interrupt conficts, but cant find any... As I said, it doesn't occur every time (?) Please, if you have any idea, spill!
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I'm no computer expert (nowhere near), but might this have something to do with it?
http://www.tacticalgamer.com/showthread.ph...5898#post305898 (http://www.tacticalgamer.com/showthread.php?p=305898#post305898)
I just want us to enable autoteam balancing i just left because it was 8 versus 4 and no one would shift. :angry:
QuoteOriginally posted by delanvital@Jul 25 2005, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the game this evening guys :D
Sorry for being such an ass about this lag-issue, mostly with regard to you CoolHand since you tagged along with me. I feel bad for being such a bad SL. You run faithfully along my side covering me, only to see me stand stiff for a while, sometimes in the middle of gunfire, and sometimes when you count on me covering you... :(
Sorry to bother others about it, but it just drives me nuts! I have killed every spareable process, I have even killed explorer.exe and run the game from the Taskmanager. I only have a minimal amount of services running - a completely clean system. Normally the game runs nicely, but sometimes it just does this shit. it freezes for 5-10 seconds, the sounds jitters/loops, and after 5-10 seconds the game just explodes in movement. Anyone else who has this problem? :blink:
I have the following specs:
AMD XP3000+ Barton core
2 x 512MB PC3200 DDR
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe
Asus Radeon 9600XT 128MB
2 x Hitachi 120GB in SATA RAID
My primary concern was hardware interrupt conficts, but cant find any... As I said, it doesn't occur every time (?) Please, if you have any idea, spill!
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your pc look fine just try adjusting the optoin in the game like video setting try see if it okay on meduim and see how it goes i had to mess with mine to get it running well and now it much better u should try it and the video setting on the computer should be on restore setting and leave it as that try it
I had terrible lag problems tonight....worse than ever before by a long way
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This looks like the 'sleeping hard disk' problem.
In other words, your BIOS is telling the hard disk to power down after x minutes inactivity. But then your game requires more data from the HDD so it has to spin up again and hence the lag. Check your power options in your BIOS.
Thanks for the replies.
My ping to your server is a fine 45 ms. I played two hours on other servers before joining dmw and I did not have the problem until then. And the problem wasn't there when I started on the dmw server, it occured for the first time after the first hour or so. Then it got more and more common, until I had it every 1-2 minutes.
I have no spindown enabled in the bios, nor in Windows. I have a screensaver though, which of course doesn't start ingame - but perhaps that clogs the CPU once in a while?
I play the game in low resolution and medium detail all the way, and as I said the problem did not occur with direct relation to any changes. I just ran the game. However I will try and reinstall my graphics drivers and change my in-game graphics options.
Hi delanvital...
Was sorry to see you bail out last night - but undestood why.
I had a horendous night last night - half lag half me playing really badly (sorry team)...
But the lag thing caused my squad a real problem as I took ages to join games and when I did I was inactive (frozen) for a time, which meant my squad were leaderless for a time at the start.
Eventually I had to hand leadership over to BIG-Dewey.
I will look into the 'sleeping hard drive' issue - and I am also buying a sack full of new matched memory this week (pay day! Hooray!), in hope that this will help...
BUT..., and I don't like to say this, I too find that other servers are a little smoother than dMw was last night.
(As it happens I usually like to split my gaming nights into a session on ranked servers and then a session of 'favourite' servers. I have the 'rank' bug I'm afraid!)
Thanks to everyone for the games last night - even though Team 1 got it's ass kicked! :(
I think we started to get our act together by game three...Some great play by my squad members. Cheers 'BIG' guys - and Trouble and Blunt.
i feel when the game start to lag is when someone entered and oh no the game is alot worse then when that person left few min later it started to get better so i might be wrong but do you all think if someone got a crap connection and it cause alot of problem ( not saying it their fault it cant be help ) cos i have noticed that but then again i may be wrong i am just saying in case some people get what i had
I find that I usually get lag-less gaming but that every now and again my pc will switch to laggy mode, sometimes on a specific map (often on that BIG map with the dam in the middle) but often only halfway into a game, or after being fine for an hour or so. I put it down to memory being eaten up, or hardware getting too hot, or the soundcard stuttering or something. Sometimes quitting and restarting BF2 fixes it, sometimes a reboot helps.
I found that increasing the graphics settings tends to induce the jerkiness more frequently, so I'd guess it's a hardware issue somewhere, probably ram-based (video and/or system ram)
athlon xp2400+
2x512mb pc2700
128mb aiw 9800pro
audigy2
running low custom graphics settings at 1280x960
Has any of you guys had the freeze lag?
Ranger, what type of lag did you have?
I was just wondering: You Radeon guys out there, what driver verion do you use?
I think so, depending what you mean by "freeze lag". My graphics stop updating smoothly (i.e. jerky graphics) and the game stops accepting inputs from the keyboard/mouse for frequent brief bursts in time with the graphical freezes.
I think I'm using the standard 5.7 catalysts with the .Net control centre thingy along with the associated AIW drivers. I have to say Nvidia drivers were definitely easier to install, update, and use. They didn't override my settings, they managed to uninstall previous versions cleanly themselves, and didn't offer up 10 different driver packages which I have to pick from assuming I know which ones I need...I think the AiW component makes it all the more confusing on the driver front but even so they could at least make it simple with one set of drivers for the graphics and another for the software packs for the AiW :frusty:
QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Jul 26 2005, 01:31 PM
I think so, depending what you mean by "freeze lag". My graphics stop updating smoothly (i.e. jerky graphics) and the game stops accepting inputs from the keyboard/mouse for frequent brief bursts in time with the graphical freezes.
I think I'm using the standard 5.7 catalysts with the .Net control centre thingy along with the associated AIW drivers. I have to say Nvidia drivers were definitely easier to install, update, and use. They didn't override my settings, they managed to uninstall previous versions cleanly themselves, and didn't offer up 10 different driver packages which I have to pick from assuming I know which ones I need...I think the AiW component makes it all the more confusing on the driver front but even so they could at least make it simple with one set of drivers for the graphics and another for the software packs for the AiW :frusty:
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What I mean by freeze, is that the screen is completely still for up to 10 seconds with no possible movement. Like a crash. The keyboard buffer is still accepting input though, and these keystrokes will be performed when the game reverts to normal. The game is overwise moving smoothly.
The R9600 is my first ATI card and I haven't really had much to do with driver download for those cards before. You are right - it could have been done a lot easier. To be frank, I just download what seems like the proper package and install - and I have learned that a clean uninstall is a much bigger task than with nVidia. That said, it is a very nice card and it works flawlessly... except with this BF2 cwap, for whatever reason...
Is your PC folding during this?
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Is your PC folding during this?
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No I killed that proces also. The only processes I left running is the absolutely neecessary ones.
But the funny thing when I normally run the game I only clear the worst from my traybar and run the game, and it runs fine. I even let the f@h run in the background without any trouble normally. I just did this extreme thing while hoping to find the problem.
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke@Jul 25 2005, 11:27 PM
This looks like the 'sleeping hard disk' problem.
In other words, your BIOS is telling the hard disk to power down after x minutes inactivity. But then your game requires more data from the HDD so it has to spin up again and hence the lag. Check your power options in your BIOS.
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That's interesting Old Bloke...
What would be teh right settings in the bios power settings to stop this?
Cheers,
Ranger
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That's interesting Old Bloke...
What would be teh right settings in the bios power settings to stop this?
Cheers,
Ranger
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You should find the options within the 'power' area of your BIOS. It's usually a simple case of the option (to power down the hard disks) being enabled or disabled.
I never had any lag problems, but I sure hope I'm not the cause. I started playing only yesterday (24.th july) on the DMW server.
I have a 2 SDSL Mbit connection. I use a Gainward Geforce 5700LE card (soon to be replaced by an 6800 ultra - no I'm not rich, I just did a good trade), K8N-E dekluxe MB, AMD 64 3300+ CPU, 1 GB ram.
I use the drivers for the AGP card that came on the DVD with BF2.
Did you have the lag problems before I joined you?
QuoteOriginally posted by CoolHand@Jul 26 2005, 10:48 PM
I never had any lag problems, but I sure hope I'm not the cause. I started playing only yesterday (24.th july) on the DMW server.
I have a 2 SDSL Mbit connection. I use a Gainward Geforce 5700LE card (soon to be replaced by an 6800 ultra - no I'm not rich, I just did a good trade), K8N-E dekluxe MB, AMD 64 3300+ CPU, 1 GB ram.
I use the drivers for the AGP card that came on the DVD with BF2.
Did you have the lag problems before I joined you?
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Actually no - but I doubt you are the reason
So I reninstalled the game, defragged and updated to omega drivers. Had regular ATI drivers before. Still the same lag problem, I even had one where the game was still running (I could here chopper sounds and no bad sound loops)) but the screen went black for 10 seconds..?
QuoteOriginally posted by delanvital@Jul 27 2005, 08:06 PM
So I reninstalled the game, defragged and updated to omega drivers. Had regular ATI drivers before. Still the same lag problem, I even had one where the game was still running (I could here chopper sounds and no bad sound loops)) but the screen went black for 10 seconds..?
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How about borrowing a GeForce card and try it out? Maybe one of your friends has one? I have an 5700LE available in a couple of days (when my 6800 hopefully arrives). I'll gladly send it to you for you to try, but it will take a day or four to reach you.
It is a blind shot, but did you try to ask EA?
After reinstalling the drivers again (and with a thorough cleanup in between) + reinstalling the game on another drive I got it up and running... Phew... :)
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After reinstalling the drivers again (and with a thorough cleanup in between) + reinstalling the game on another drive I got it up and running... Phew... :)
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Splendid! :D
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Splendid! :D
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Cripes!
:49_49:
I'll just add my 2p worth. Firstly the lag i experienced was at the start of the game. This lag was due to not having enough memory and paging to would cause the stutter. Once all the memory had most of what it need in memory the game would play normally.
Adding more ram removed the paging to disk and hence my stutter.
Of course you already have 1gb of ram but are your also using an on board sound card?? As that will suck up the memory so you infact have a lot less than you think.
Basically the game is memory hungry and as soon as your system bottlenecks you'll get lag. Everything has to be perfect for this game.
QuoteOriginally posted by FBG@Jul 28 2005, 10:41 AM
I'll just add my 2p worth. Firstly the lag i experienced was at the start of the game. This lag was due to not having enough memory and paging to would cause the stutter. Once all the memory had most of what it need in memory the game would play normally.
Adding more ram removed the paging to disk and hence my stutter.
Of course you already have 1gb of ram but are your also using an on board sound card?? As that will suck up the memory so you infact have a lot less than you think.
Basically the game is memory hungry and as soon as your system bottlenecks you'll get lag. Everything has to be perfect for this game.
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I have fixed my 10s freeze. I think it was either driver or disk related.
However, I am familiar with the bottlenecks, especially with 1GB system ram combined with only 128MB gfx RAM and it is probably the explanation for the regular jitter I have now. Even though I think it is a bit too jitterish for the specs i have - considering I only play in 1024x768 w. medium details.
Is it worth OC'ing the graphics card nowadays? Haven't done that since I had my Orchid Righteous 3DFx VooDoo card :)
Edit: Yes I use onboard sound
I was thinking that as I only have 128MB gfx and onboard sound I may have to make mine 2 Gig as well. On the plus side the lag was nowhere near as bad last night.