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Forum Archive 2023 => Games of old that no longer float our boat........ => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Half-Life 2 => Topic started by: A Twig on July 29, 2005, 02:57:58 AM

Title: I Hate It
Post by: A Twig on July 29, 2005, 02:57:58 AM
Possibly the most irritating, tiresome, monotonous, self-aggrandising game ever yet having bought it aaround lunchtime, I have played 8 hours today, seperated only by a bicycle ride to an evening at the pub.

 :frusty:  :rant:  :ranting:

God I hate myself - currently on the sand/vehicle./irritating bugs level at the moment - I might just cry...
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Doorman on July 29, 2005, 09:15:38 AM
Pull yourself together man.  :angry:  Lesser men than you have bought it, played it through in 25 minutes then cried! Myself? I'm up to somewhere fairly close to the end, can't remember quite where, but I can't summon the will or enthusiasm to carry on. I've had it from day one too! How long is that? One day, one day.

EDIT: Can't have bold and italics  :blush:
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Benny on July 29, 2005, 10:17:19 AM
I'm with the Doorman. It's crap, I'm near the end, can't be TANGO'd to finish it, that's the pull it has.

Hey, why not set up some sentrys and let them kill everything, or we could overhype the linear gameplay, or we could just boot up Far Cry and see how it should have been done.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: TeaLeaf on July 29, 2005, 10:48:28 AM
I got bored with it.  I stopped playing at a point that sounds similar to the one you are at or near.  It was with the buggy - I winched the buggy up onto the docks, killed the baddies and then started to move up and inland only to be repeatedly killed by some lethal helicopter every time I raced to jump the broken bridge.  

If someone provides me with the infromation I need to advance further then I may even pick it up again...............otherwise it will remain unfinished.  And it will still bore me...... :(

TL.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: suicidal_monkey on July 29, 2005, 11:08:42 AM
I played it pretty solidly from when I got it until before xmas, ... then I was away from my pc for amonth, and haven't played it since. Can't even remember where I got to :)

With the buggy it was all about not stopping until the game forces you to by blocking the road with cars or something... I think. You should normally encounter the helicopter thing near a point where you are able to refuael your rocket launcher so it's not too hard to take down?

The hardest point in the game was when I got trapped in a prison and you get some time to set up defenses bfore wave after wave of soldiers cmoe to attack you, from about 5 directions. I eventually found a bit of a naughty way to get through that though ;)
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Cadaver on July 29, 2005, 11:17:52 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jul 29 2005, 10:48 AM
If someone provides me with the infromation I need to advance further then I may even pick it up again...............otherwise it will remain unfinished. And it will still bore me...... :(
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IIRC, you have to peg the throttle and use the boost on the buggy to jump the bridge.  Hoping the 'copter thing won't nail you whilst you're doing it.  Keep moving, on the other side you follow the road around a left hand bend and there's a load of wrecked cars with a concealed crate of rockets.  Get out of the buggy, hide amongst the wrecks and pepper the 'copter with the rocket launcher until it dies, re-arming when necessary.

I'm with you and Benny, the game's dull.  Nice to look at, and some cool physics, but the linear gameplay and naff storyline makes it extremely one-dimensional.  Far Cry is a far superior single-player shooter.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Apoc on July 29, 2005, 12:46:45 PM
:withstupid: Yup, thats the way to do it

I wouldn't worry about finishing it too much, the end sequence just plain sucks, probably the biggest let down ever :tumbleweed:
Title: I Hate It
Post by: DuVeL on July 29, 2005, 12:56:58 PM
I must say that the ending and final level was way to easy. The only thing that took a while was for me to find out what to do as the last part, figured it out and was done a minute after that.  :(
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Penfold on July 29, 2005, 01:02:18 PM
I finished it - but more so to look at the graphics etc - besides I wanted to nail that rather cute looking bird - Pfffffff that didn't happen

I agree that the ending was a complete letdown - some of hte graphics were cool but the ending was fairly slack.

I occasionally went online for help with the odd-part but in the main it's fairly straightforward - the fact that pretty much every door is locked except from the one you need makes it a tad easier !! LOL

I enjoyed the buggy parts and the boat parts and place like that zombie-town were quite intense... (it's been so long I can't remember the names)

PEN
Title: I Hate It
Post by: TeaLeaf on July 29, 2005, 01:04:57 PM
How far through it is that section that I mentioned?  If it is near the end I may be spurred on to complete it, if it is not then I may just give up here and now - I'm not sure I can be bothered to go through to much more of it - I'm losing the will to live! ;)

TL.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: DogMeat on July 29, 2005, 01:20:21 PM
I played it again yesterday.  Meh.

Sentry Guns:  Take 2 into one of the prison cells, point 'em at the door, settle down with the Times crossword...

D "Now starring in 'The Bold and The Italic' at a cinema near you.." M
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Doorman on July 29, 2005, 01:45:47 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DogMeat@Jul 29 2005, 01:20 PM
I played it again yesterday. Meh.

Sentry Guns: Take 2 into one of the prison cells, point 'em at the door, settle down with the Times crossword...

D "Now starring in 'The Bold and The Italic' at a cinema near you.." M
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Smartarse  :D
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Penfold on July 29, 2005, 02:22:36 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jul 29 2005, 12:04 PM
How far through it is that section that I mentioned? If it is near the end I may be spurred on to complete it, if it is not then I may just give up here and now - I'm not sure I can be bothered to go through to much more of it - I'm losing the will to live! ;)

TL.
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Here's the levels:

    * Chapter I: Point Insertion
    * Chapter II: Red Letter Day
    * Chapter III: Route Kanal
    * Chapter IV: Water Hazard
    * Chapter V: Black Mesa East
    * Chapter VI: We Don't Go To Ravenholm
    * Ravenholm Part II: Mines & Shorepoint
    * Chapter VII: Highway 17
    * Chapter VIII: Sandtraps
    * Chapter IX: Nova Prospekt
    * Chapter X: Entanglement
    * Chapter XI: Anticitizen One
    * Chapter XII: Follow Freeman
    * Chapter XIII: Our Benefactors
    * Chapter XIV: Dark Energy

You're at chapter VII: You get a rather nice Crossbow a little further one which is great fun to hack 'n' lay with. There's still quite a bit more of that section to go through - and a hasslely bridge thing Im' afraid.

I also think that you've completed the best parts of the game - such as Water Hazrd and Ravenholm.

Flick through the chapter guide if you're interested ( http://www.hlfallout.net/articles.php/walk...49/#walkthrough (http://www.hlfallout.net/articles.php/walkthrough_49/#walkthrough) ) - that'll give you an idea if it grabs you

PEN

(Also, if you're bored with playing it but want to stroll through the rest of it, here are the cheats :
http://www.hlfallout.net/articles.php/44/5/ (http://www.hlfallout.net/articles.php/44/5/)
Title: I Hate It
Post by: suicidal_monkey on July 29, 2005, 02:49:54 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DogMeat@Jul 29 2005, 01:20 PM
I played it again yesterday. Meh.

Sentry Guns: Take 2 into one of the prison cells, point 'em at the door, settle down with the Times crossword...

D "Now starring in 'The Bold and The Italic' at a cinema near you.." M
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I tried that but the soldiers very quickly caught on and simply lobbed a few grenades into the cell.

I also tried setting up barriers around the sentry guns of barrels (boxes break after a few bullets) and that almost worked but keeping the guns upright was hard work!

I eventually settled for climbing up onto a walkway via a few carefully stcked crates etc, setting the sentry guns up at it's edge as I went and then sat up there lobbing grenades at the soldiers. They did a good job of lobbing grenades at themselves too, but occasionally I'd have to rush to pick up a live gren to throw back down...
Title: I Hate It
Post by: DuVeL on July 29, 2005, 03:20:30 PM
I just took 1 of them things and placed it infront of one of the rooms with only one entrance, they allways showed up for the entrance and I could hear them come from far so I just had to shoot and pickup their bullets and all if necessary...
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Sn00ks on July 29, 2005, 03:24:04 PM
I got as far as Route Kanal!!!  :D
Title: I Hate It
Post by: smilodon on July 29, 2005, 05:15:13 PM
It stunk like a big stinky thing. No idea what all the hype was about. Great physics engine ruined by a souless empty game. Far Cry was far far better.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Hippy on July 29, 2005, 05:54:13 PM
I finished it.

The end was such an anti climax.

Frustrating.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: RizZy on July 29, 2005, 05:58:40 PM
hl2 plays like a graphics demo for me, all show with not much go. Try adding a storyline or playabiltiy or freedom of movement or someting next time valve....... the dev team should play farcry thru a few times to see what sort of game they should have produced.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: A Twig on July 30, 2005, 11:52:09 PM
Finished it - my verdict:

As a demonstration of a revolutionary game engine it's incredible. As a game, requiring story level, a plot and some immersion - after the first level when I genuinely felt immersed and a bit scared of these crazy people running around with riot sticks and shooting at me - it fails horribly.

Take a good game engine, good graphics and good physics. Tack on poor linear level design, horrendous badly explained story line with almost no continuity between HL and HL2, make the last level really fun but amazingly easy and untaxing, with a cop out of an ending - again with no explanation and you have HL2.

The first level promised so much - a genuinely edgy 1984 style game, but it simply did not deliver.

Poor, definitely glad I only paid £15.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Blunt on July 31, 2005, 09:45:32 AM
Ageed Twig

10/10 for looks...
5/10 for content...
disappointing :(


QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Jul 29 2005, 02:49 PM
I tried that but the soldiers very quickly caught on and simply lobbed a few grenades into the cell.

I also tried setting up barriers around the sentry guns of barrels (boxes break after a few bullets) and that almost worked but keeping the guns upright was hard work!

I eventually settled for climbing up onto a walkway via a few carefully stcked crates etc, setting the sentry guns up at it's edge as I went and then sat up there lobbing grenades at the soldiers. They did a good job of lobbing grenades at themselves too, but occasionally I'd have to rush to pick up a live gren to throw back down...
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If you take a sentry gun with you from the previous bit, this makes it a doddle....
Title: I Hate It
Post by: DarkAngel on July 31, 2005, 12:36:22 PM
I liked it.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: FrEnZy on July 31, 2005, 02:26:01 PM
Overall I enjoyed it, the first few levels were interesting and actualy grabbed my attention.

But found it to be far too short (6 hours!  :pinch: ), lacking storyline and feeling completely unlinked from the events in the first game
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Maus on August 08, 2005, 02:10:59 PM
Though also horribly disappointed (mostly because the game wanted to reinvent itself in each section - I'm a boat/zombie/buggy/antlion-hating/antlion-loving/squad-based/overpowered-gun kind of a game), I do still enjoy playing some sections of it every now and then still - that in my mind is the main reason to complete it - so you can just start at a specific level. Nova Prospekt is great fun, as is Ravenholm. The squad-based sections would be fun too if the AI wasn't so piss-poor. However, that stupid stuttering issue is hugely annoying, as are the ridiculous load times.

Whichever one of you said Far Cry was more worthwhile hit the nail on the head - FC is far and away the best SP shooter released for a couple of years. I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Browne on August 08, 2005, 05:36:25 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jul 29 2005, 09:48 AM
I got bored with it. I stopped playing at a point that sounds similar to the one you are at or near. It was with the buggy - I winched the buggy up onto the docks, killed the baddies and then started to move up and inland only to be repeatedly killed by some lethal helicopter every time I raced to jump the broken bridge.

If someone provides me with the infromation I need to advance further then I may even pick it up again...............otherwise it will remain unfinished. And it will still bore me...... :(

TL.
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Hi TL, you gotta kill the helo to go past the bridge...back up a lil bit to the car wreck, you will find the surface to air missiles there behind a car, missed this meself first time round, takes about 4/5 missiles to pop the chopper..

Personally, I enjoyed the game, played at hardest, but wouldnt play again if you know what I mean
Title: I Hate It
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 08, 2005, 06:14:06 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Maus@Aug 8 2005, 02:10 PM
Whichever one of you said Far Cry was more worthwhile hit the nail on the head - FC is far and away the best SP shooter released for a couple of years. I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it.
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It started off well with some creeping about but after 30 minutes of trying to be creepy and quiet I got bored and took the other option... I got as far as a really big ship of the coast without really understanding what was going on anymore (kind of raced through several encampments on the beaches and stuff, probably overshot something important) got bored and haven't played it since though no doubt I will pick it up again if I ever get bored of BF2 or fancy playing a SP game again (MP is so much better) although I've not played HL2 for a good 6 months now...
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Maus on August 08, 2005, 06:52:38 PM
Maybe you should have paid attention at the start of the level, when that Doyle chap tells you you're heading off to a really big ship off the coast ;)

You're off to that carrier to try to find that Val b**t.

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As far as SP vs MP goes, I'm pretty much all SP lately as I'm never online when you lot are, BF2 is laggy as hell when you're playing with an ocean between you and the server, and I can't find any worthwhile US servers. :(
Title: I Hate It
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 08, 2005, 07:09:10 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Maus@Aug 8 2005, 06:52 PM
Maybe you should have paid attention at the start of the level, when that Doyle chap tells you you're heading off to a really big ship off the coast ;)

You're off to that carrier to try to find that Val b**t.
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so I was fine to just race through all the encampments in a jeep, take out everyone that followed me in a furious jeeps on the beach battle-race, kill everyone on the boat I could see from a distance (got to love the mounted mg on the jeep...) ... but then get tired and go to bed ... :) Would there have been any point in stopping in the encampments for inventory or anything?
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Cadaver on August 08, 2005, 07:50:47 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Maus@Aug 8 2005, 06:52 PM
As far as SP vs MP goes, I'm pretty much all SP lately as I'm never online when you lot are, BF2 is laggy as hell when you're playing with an ocean between you and the server, and I can't find any worthwhile US servers. :(
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Maus - if it's a decent Stateside server you're after, IMHO you could do no better than the Tactical Gamer ones.   The IP addresses, server rules, etc are all here (http://www.tacticalgamer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=182).  Server times are EST, which shouldn't be all that bad for you.

I've been on there a couple of times now, after -=[dMw]=- have closed up shop for the night, and had a lot of fun.  Full 64 player maps that, even with my 150 ping to the US, are quite playable.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: RizZy on August 08, 2005, 07:51:14 PM
Quoteso I was fine to just race through all the encampments in a jeep, take out everyone that followed me in a furious jeeps on the beach battle-race, kill everyone on the boat I could see from a distance (got to love the mounted mg on the jeep...) ... but then get tired and go to bed ... smile.gif Would there have been any point in stopping in the encampments for inventory or anything?

No point at all, unless you wanna kill every single bad dude there is.
Title: I Hate It
Post by: Maus on August 24, 2005, 04:29:57 PM
Hmm, somewhere along the way they must have put in a patch that reduced load times. I'm playing through the game again and liking it much more because the pauses are nowhere near as intrusive.