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dMw Chit Chat => The Beer Bar => It's my Birthday! => Topic started by: Benny on January 17, 2003, 10:49:44 AM

Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Benny on January 17, 2003, 10:49:44 AM
Gents,

Last night, I went for a curry, accompanied by the obvious warm up pints of stella, meal accompanying Cobra's, then down the pub for so post food Export and a couple of whiskys.
Not content with that, back to mine for a few more whiskys and falling into the moving bed at 3.

I have made it in to work. Nobody will sit near me because I smell. I appear to be leaking. Which brings me to my experiment. I am throwing myself on your mercy and require a hangover cure. (I've already had the pills, water and sausage sandwich) I could also do with getting rid of the curry taste in my mouth.

What's the solution, all serious offers considered, help. :beer: ...in reverse.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: OldBloke on January 17, 2003, 10:56:10 AM
... and in 24 hours you'll be fine.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Benny on January 17, 2003, 10:59:45 AM
I can't wait that long OB...I feel dirty..the old 'I'll never drink again' is even crossing my mind.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Dr Sadako on January 17, 2003, 10:59:47 AM
A good thorough throw up usually gets rid of most of the hangover. Hey it also exchanges the curry taste ...  :lol:

Orange juice or vitamine drinks is good for you combined with lots of water.

Looking forward to the LAN ...  :lol:
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2003, 11:01:31 AM
Irn Bru. It is brilliant for hangovers. You also need a couple of Bruffen for the headache. Also get as much water down your throat as possible. GL.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Benny on January 17, 2003, 11:06:47 AM
aha, there is irn bru in the vending machine....
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: FrEnZy on January 17, 2003, 11:25:06 AM
Fried Egg, mint yogaught (SP?!) and cheese sandwich! Trust me!
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Post by: FatBob on January 17, 2003, 11:48:18 AM
some honey on toast is good, the honey replaces lots of stuff your (now shrivelled) liver has lost and will make your mouth taste nice again.
plan b throw a sickie!! and drink till you collapse.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Stryker on January 17, 2003, 11:48:51 AM
Berroca, it replaces all the stuff that booze robs ur body of.  The AUSSIES swear by it so it must be good.... go to Boots.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: FBG on January 17, 2003, 11:53:21 AM
unfortunately my cure is preventative and requires you take a vitamin pill before you go to bed, ideally with a glass of water. Then during the night as you dehydrate your body will still be topped up with loverly jubbly vitamins.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Benny on January 17, 2003, 11:59:34 AM
aha....a quick scavenge through someone elses desk and....Berocca....here comes the good stuff body, brace yourself. Strangely Irn Bru seems to be helping....one of the ingredients...Ammonium Ferric Citrate..sounds erm..nuclear?
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on January 17, 2003, 12:00:59 PM
A kebab on the way home would have stopped your mouth tasting of curry!! tongue
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Post by: DonkeyCheeseGrater on January 17, 2003, 12:01:40 PM
Get hold of a gun and shoot yourself in the kneekap, i guarantee that within 2 seconds the hangover will be a distant memory.  It doesnt cure the problem of the curry taste, but that will be the least of your worries...
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: sheepy on January 17, 2003, 12:01:48 PM
1 shot of wiskey or 1/2 a pint of larger, if its really bad both.

trust me nothing beets hair of the dog
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Benny on January 17, 2003, 12:06:37 PM
Well so far..

I should have left the pub, had a kebab, a vitamin pill, woken up, a nice fried egg/yoghurt/cheese sandwich, some Berocca, honey on toast and a shot of whisky, followed by a nice kneecapping, some more vits and an Irn Bru.

Now if I could get the toilet paper outta the fridge, I'd be all set..
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2003, 12:12:29 PM
QuoteStrangely Irn Bru seems to be helping....one of the ingredients...Ammonium Ferric Citrate..sounds erm..nuclear?
Dunno but I swear by the stuff. I think it is the Scottish version of Lucozade :-)
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Dr Sadako on January 17, 2003, 12:17:34 PM
Quote..Ammonium Ferric Citrate..sounds erm..nuclear?

Ferric ammonium citrate ( Fe(NH4)3(C6H5O7)2 ) is usually used in medicine (for treating iron-deficiency, anemia), blueprint photography and as feed additive.

 :D
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: sheepy on January 17, 2003, 12:20:08 PM
correct, there m8ty its a scotish vertion of lucozade sorta as it dont have the extra energy thing...


o o o o i just remberd one that worked a treat once, but i accept no liability to what it does 2 u.

1 pint glass,

red bull
lucozade
cofee granuals
and a shot of any spirit u like [vodka is probably best]
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on January 17, 2003, 12:21:53 PM
Sheepy you missed off the tomato juice, tabasco, raw egg and pepper!
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Post by: sheepy on January 17, 2003, 12:23:50 PM
im not trying to do the throwing up hangover cure, just the runnnig around the office hyper hangover cure
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Post by: SecretSquirrel on January 17, 2003, 12:54:07 PM
The only sure way to quickly get rid of the hangover is some more...

warm up pints of stella

Cobra's,

down the pub for so post food Export and a couple of whiskys

a few more whiskys
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Benny on January 17, 2003, 01:27:58 PM
I have found Nirvana...
A morning of pills and potions, down the pub a pint of Guiness and a cheese and onion toastie. I feel almost better :D
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: sheepy on January 17, 2003, 01:29:17 PM
wp m8ty
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Post by: smilodon on January 17, 2003, 03:59:57 PM
The Doctor Speaks

A hangover is caused by a combination of the toxic by-product of alcohol metabolism (acetaldehyde), dehydration, and Vitamin A, B (particularly B6) and C depletion caused by the chemical action of alcohol on your system. The symptoms are usually a dry mouth, nausea, fatigue, dizziness and headache and are caused by a combination of these factors.

Apart from the obvious toxic effects, you should realise you're suffering the effects of a mild overdose of a depressant drug and your nerves are reacting accordingly, and you have also flushed a signifnicant quantity of vitamins and nutrients from your system causing a degree of metabolic shock that your body is struggling to compensate against. This is why hangover symptoms often include disorientation and "the jitters".

Some drinks give you worse hangovers than others due to the actions of impurities called Congeners. While it's the ethyl alcohol (ethanol) that gets you drunk, amyl alcohol, butyl alcohol, methyl alcohol, propyl alcohol, and isopropyl alcohol is also found in most drinks to varying degrees, and the concentration of these Congeners will go a long way to determining the severity of the hangover.

Vodka and gin (clear liquors) are generally lower in congeners than whisky, rum and bourbon, due to the filtering process involved, and hence usually give a less intense hangover. Unfortunately the congeners also give flavor, smell and appearance to alcohol.

Another contributor to the hangover is the "freshness" of the alcohol since the natural oxidation product of ethanol is also acetaldehyde. Finishing off an already open bottle of red, or drinking beer that's been in the boot of your car for a week, will provide you with a ready made supply of acetaldehyde so you don't have to wait for your liver to make it in order to have a really good hangover.

Most hangover "remedies" simply attend to one or more of the symptoms and don't really provide a cure as such. The hangover won't stop until the alcohol is out of your system:


Berocca - Puts the vitamin B back in, as well as the big glass of water it's mixed with. It's probably best to do this before you go out.

Coke - Fizz for the nausea, liquid for the dehydration, and a caffeine and sugar hit to make you feel a bit more lively.

Coffee - Same as Coke but without the bubbles to help ease the nausea. Try it with honey instead of sugar since the fructose is absorbed quicker than the sucrose in normal sugar, and it's better for you.

Ginseng - It's been noted that since caffeine is a diuretic like alcohol, it can actually make the dehydration worse, so try the herbal equivalent instead.

Marmite On Toast - Something in your stomach is good, and salty is even better. Plus you get a Vitamin B top up. The same reasons also make peanut butter a good choice, but the oily nature might make some sensitive stomachs feel a bit yucky. If you do try try this one, skip the butter and just have dry toast.

Cold Pizza - No bloody idea why this one works, but it does.

Asprin - Simply attends to the headache and does nothing for the level of alcohol in your system. Don't take them before you go to bed.

Bananas - Sugar in the form of fructose, and potassium, which is one of the things you lose lots of when you drink. Bananas are also a natural antacid to help with the nausea, and are high in magnesium which can help relax those pounding blood vessels causing that hangover headache.

 For a variety of reasons try a peanut butter, honey and banana sandwich on white bread.

Vitamin C - Another thing the alcohol takes out that you're advised to put back in as soon as possible. Orange juice, tomato, a 600mg Vitamin C tablet - doesn't matter, just do it.

A Hot Bath - The heat will sweat out the toxins that are causing all the problems. You'll feel a bit woozy at first but go with it and you'll feel better afterwards.

Here's a few tried and proven ideas for hangover prevention:


Don't drink. (doh!)

Take a Berocca before you start drinking. This gets a reserve of Vitamin B into you.

Alternate fruit juice or water in amongst your drinks to avoid dehydration later on.

Avoid fizzy or sugary stuff. The purists reckon that about 200ml of water is needed to effectively counteract each 30ml of alcohol.

The alcohol in carbonated drinks is absorbed more quickly than in non-carbonated drinks.

Reduce the amount of sugar you consume with your alcohol. The forced metabolism of sugar AND alcohol by your body will accelerate the depletion of B vitamins and make the hangover worse.

The 2am pig-out. Pizza or pasta is usually best since cheese and carbohydrates are a good source of amino acids. Actually food is a good idea all round - before, during and immediately after drinking. Food doesn't absorb alcohol, but it does increase metabolism, activates alcohol absorption, and increases the speed with which the body processes alcohol

That'll be 200 quid please
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: Aga on January 17, 2003, 08:02:36 PM
I know it a bit late but this is supposed to be 100% effective and apparently trainee doctors swear by it. Pure oxygen using a mask. Just don't be smoking when you try it.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: ChimpBoy on January 19, 2003, 08:35:49 PM
Aga has a point - oxygen opens up the blood vessels supplying the brain.

If you didn't know, it's constricted blood vessels (ones that flow from the Carotid artery) caused by dehydration that are often the cause of headaches.  Just don't breath too much oxy as it's poisonous.

Damn, too much ER and Scrubs on Sky these days.....
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: smilodon on January 19, 2003, 08:49:02 PM
QuoteJust don't breath too much oxy as it's poisonous.

Wise words, although you would have to breath it for a long time.

Apart froma a genaral fall off in resparatory performance after about 24 hours, pulmonary edema (fluid in the lungs) and the associated damage to the epithelial cells lining the alveolus and pulmonary capillaries, would not set in until you had been breathing it for about 40 hours.

Do we have a an emoticon for smug bastard  :?:  8)
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Post by: ChimpBoy on January 19, 2003, 09:02:47 PM
At least my knowledge is up in my head - all yours is from the Dorling Kindersley "My First Medical Dictionary".

Besides thats rubbish - you'd have oxygen poisoning far quicker that any reaction in your lungs.  Trust me Neutron, those Biology A-Levels were productive times.  I actually got some learning done as I wasn't making coffee all the time.
Title: Social Experiment
Post by: smilodon on January 19, 2003, 10:16:44 PM
So explain your theory then. What exactly goes wrong and when?


And don't forget that NASA astronauts spent two weeks breathing pure oxgen (at a reduced pressure granted)