Are we all up for an Infantry only Sunday night bash again.
The rules are:
No using Tanks, Aircraft, APC at all. (Not even for transport)
You can use any type of jeep (that includes its weapons)
you can use any of the Fixed ground based weapons ( TOW and Heavy MG)
Sounds good. We may even have a friendly team to play against so let's all try to be on the server at 8pm :D
WoooooHoooo! :clap:
I'm in :thumbsup:
got a good stock of elastoplasts and germolene...and some iodine for your grazed knees :P
I'll be there Mr Mainwaring. They don't like it up 'em y'know. :whistle:
I hope we all had fun again last night. There was still a bit of confusion of what or if any vehicles are allowed.
What's a jeep :D
Light Jeep - DPV, Paratrooper Vehicle/FAV
Heavy Jeep - HMMWV, Nanjing (NJ) 2046, GAZ 39371 Vodnik
my thinking behind still allowing jeeps on Infantry only games, is that they speed up the game. with out these flag capping would become very slow. unless we drop down to the 16 player maps. and the defensive value of most of the jeeps is low. But if you think different let me know and will try a different set of rules next time.
Personal highlights of last night would have to be delanvital saving ammo, by killing 5 of use with one round from his M203 :ph34r: and then we had blunt on a killing streak with his paddles :)
Yes I enjoyed playing on Karkland last night, apologies to my squad as I was SL by default, and I'm too aggressive, so I tend to get itchy feet get in the action and get killed!
*bit of a moan*
It was kind of annoying on karkland last night, we where having an excellent game, as we drove the enemy back to one base (our Mec base across the bridge). The squad then began to advance on this position only to come across 2 APC working in tandem near the train wreckage with infantry support. Without AT support, we where mercilessly mown down by the APC's which shouldn't have been there.
I don't understand why the DMW guys on their side didn't tell them not use the APC's? Perhaps they weren't in the vicinity.
I made the mistake of using one early in the game when I didn't realise it wasn't allowed but was quickly and politely told not to use it. I immediately stopped using it when I was told of the rules and apologised. I then warned any of my squad not to do the same.
The emphatic use of APC's by the oppossing force, kinda spoilt the game for me a little as it had a large impact on the course of events and all the good work we had done was quickly undone.
In future can I ask when we are playing infantry only, that SLs on both sides make it clear to new squad members that APC's are not allowed and to ask people to stop using them when they do?
Thanks, apologies for the moan its Monday morning :)
(*moan*) I'm sorry to see that - after the whole KoD dolphin diving incident - that we still haven't chosen to do a 'rules of engagement' FAQ for those teams we chose to play against.
We really do need to lay down some simple rules for visiting opponents - just as we would be expected to respect the rules when we visit other servers.
This doesn't have to be a complecated task - just a few lines to outline how we play - and expect others - to play on the night, ESPECIALLY when we adopt none standard rules like 'infantry only' that are not 'mod' applied.
On nights where we modify the default rules of engagement these new rules should be messaged up on the screen (like our 'No bunny hopping' sign) so no one can say they weren't informed!
IMHO!
The fact that the server was called dMw INFANTRY ONLY should have been a clue to most people <_<
It was also mentioned on the server message. I guess we have to make it even more obvious :eyebrow:
As to the FAQ, that would not have made any difference last night as we were not playing a nother team and if people can't read a server message they won't read a FAQ
My 2p
Ehrm, well it happend more like this: they are using them, we are using them.
I was playing as one of the first that evening and I got overrun by a vehicle and was like: infantry = no vehicles right? I got no replies from the enemy so we decided to use them aswell (and it was a -=[dMw]=-er behind the steeringwheel).
I was one of the gunners at the bridge/trainwreck you were on about, sorry but I was told it was okay to do. BTW, you really didn't push us back. We got a call from our SL, move in to their base and hold ground, we had enough tickets allready to claim victory so that's why we did that...Sorry if it wasn't allowed but some rules about it would be nice. Same as the dolphin diving I've witnessed from a few -=[dMw]=-ers. Allright, they shot me while doing that and probably didn't even new they were doing it.
We're all mature enough of to sort things out. I liked the gameplay and you'll see alot of more from me coming up.
To be fair there was some confusion on the status of the apcs. I certainly used them early on as well, and I tried to use them later when we were being overrun. Lets just put it down to experience and be more explicity next time. Infantry, jeeps and buggies only. I like it :D
I think there was confusion all over about APC's last night.
This may stem back to when APC could be used for transport on the last inf night.
Certainly twice Oldie and I started from the Hotel and slogged my way on foot to the suburbs (past that attractive looking APC) to try and gain control of the flag- only to be killed by Blunt (rinse and repeat).
On the 2nd time we were overtaken by a APC so that threw it for me - then everyone started to use them.
I'm ambivalent as to whether if APC's should be used or not - they're so weak and vulnerable that imho it makes little difference.
PEN
I'd prefer jeeps only and TBH I wouldn't mind on foot only - it would be fun I think :)
I admit this:
I knew it was infantry only but I spawned next to a plane and was like: Hmmmzz, haven't tryed one of these yet. Started it and as someone was saying: Hey, who's in the plane? I crashed the plane and my comp crashed aswell and it sended me back to desktop. Couldn't even reply that it was me having a testrun.
BTW, there were also a few none dMw-ers online who would take tanks and so aswell, even after several warnings.
Two quick q's.
Couldn't you just say no mobile weaponns. That would fix your APC problem.
And/or can you pause the game? Is there a pause?
Would it be possible to add in a custom map of karkand without tanks/apc's?
Benny there is no pause AFAIK.
I think Benny's idea of saying no mobile weapons is a good one. Also as dMw we should all lead by example and politely ask squad members not to use mobile weapons if they do.
Thats all we can do until a mod comes out that allows you to pick and choose which vehicles appear in the maps are which don't.
Duvel>I was one of the gunners at the bridge/trainwreck you were on about, sorry but I was told it was okay to do.
No probs matey, if you where told it was ok, thats cool. Btw, good to see you playing BF2 last night Duvel, even if you did shoot me!
Duvel >BTW, you really didn't push us back. We got a call from our SL, move in to their base and hold ground, we had enough tickets allready to claim victory so that's why we did that.
Well you had only one base when you where defending the bridges, so I would say that that you where pushed back :)
I do like the themed nights we just need to be clear on what the rules are to avoid confusion and clarify those rules to our squad mates, ie non -dmwers..
QuoteOriginally posted by Armitage@Oct 17 2005, 07:11 AM
I hope we all had fun again last night. There was still a bit of confusion of what or if any vehicles are allowed.
What's a jeep :D
Light Jeep - DPV, Paratrooper Vehicle/FAV
Heavy Jeep - HMMWV, Nanjing (NJ) 2046, GAZ 39371 Vodnik
my thinking behind still allowing jeeps on Infantry only games, is that they speed up the game. with out these flag capping would become very slow. unless we drop down to the 16 player maps. and the defensive value of most of the jeeps is low. But if you think different let me know and will try a different set of rules next time.
Personal highlights of last night would have to be delanvital saving ammo, by killing 5 of use with one round from his M203 :ph34r: and then we had blunt on a killing streak with his paddles :)
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The way I understood the rules was this:
Light Jeep - DPV, Paratrooper Vehicle/FAV
Heavy Jeep - HMMWV, Nanjing (NJ) 2046, GAZ 39371 Vodnik
are all allowed...
not allowed are Tanks, aircraft, or vehicles with AT weapon(what I call an APC...probably mistakenly)
I don't see the problem with using the Vodnik or similar vehicles because they are armed to the same extent...or very nearly....as the jeeps.
It would be great if there was a jeep only Mod (I think BB looked into it a bit)
that would solve all the problems and misunderstandings we are having, and wouldn't require rules either 8)
QuoteOriginally posted by Blunt@Oct 17 2005, 05:21 PM
The way I understood the rules was this:
Light Jeep - DPV, Paratrooper Vehicle/FAV
Heavy Jeep - HMMWV, Nanjing (NJ) 2046, GAZ 39371 Vodnik
are all allowed...
not allowed are Tanks, aircraft, or vehicles with AT weapon(what I call an APC...probably mistakenly)
I don't see the problem with using the Vodnik or similar vehicles because they are armed to the same extent...or very nearly....as the jeeps.
It would be great if there was a jeep only Mod (I think BB looked into it a bit)
that would solve all the problems and misunderstandings we are having, and wouldn't require rules either 8)
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I was on the team defending the train wreck with "2xAPC" or if you look a bit harder the "GAZ 39371 Vodnik" better know as a jeep. it may look big. but has no more armour than the lowly Hummer. I fact there is only 1 apc on the whole map. and it spawns back at the US UCB. 2 hits from an M203 will take out any Jeep. and it only takes 1 for the light jeeps. and remember you don't need to blow the thing up to stop it shooting. 1 head shot soon spoils the Gunners day :dummy:
QuoteOriginally posted by Armitage@Oct 17 2005, 07:57 PM
1 head shot soon spoils the Gunners day :dummy:
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and you get the best chance at a headshot when the gunner turns to shoot at you ;) usmc rifle takes care of them :D cracking sniping going on this evening - quite an effort to snipe blunt to stop him reviving the rest of the snipers you just shot :) did get a good one though mid-run :devil:
QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Oct 17 2005, 10:44 PM
and you get the best chance at a headshot when the gunner turns to shoot at you ;) usmc rifle takes care of them :D cracking sniping going on this evening - quite an effort to snipe blunt to stop him reviving the rest of the snipers you just shot :) did get a good one though mid-run :devil:
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I was out on the piss till nearly 10.00
monkey...you were the bane of my life on Karkand tonight...
next time...please make sure you're on my side :P
Dont know what gremlins where in action tonight but listen to this tale.
Blunt is on my side (MEC),when I see him he shows up in red,so I shoot him.Blunt then says something in the order of "Norm please stop shooting me" ;) I was so sure his tag showed red,so I look at players list.He is in the opposite team to me according to the list. :blink: When he was shot by Hinny(USMC) it came up as a team kill. :blink: :blink: Please explain that one. :whistle:
QuoteOriginally posted by Norm@Oct 17 2005, 10:54 PM
Dont know what gremlins where in action tonight but listen to this tale.
Blunt is on my side (MEC),when I see him he shows up in red,so I shoot him.Blunt then says something in the order of "Norm please stop shooting me" ;) I was so sure his tag showed red,so I look at players list.He is in the opposite team to me according to the list. :blink: When he was shot by Hinny(USMC) it came up as a team kill. :blink: :blink: Please explain that one. :whistle:
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we got round it though....didn't we/
gg's again tonight
all in all it failed.. we had vehicles.. spoilt it tbh
Is it foot slogging only tonight?
Hope so :)
Edit: Just checked and server is currently running in INFANTRY ONLY mode. :)
Must admit I'd like to try a night of on-foot only. No vehicles at all, none, neit, nada :)
Had some good games tonight. but I think we need jeeps. even with maps like karkand it is very hard to make a move on a flag which is further than a quick run away. In 2 rounds the suburbs never got caped once and the bigger maps seem to big.
Must say it was fun, I even zapped Dewey! Shocking haha.
Bloody good fun tonight, came on the server and got OB with the first shot I fired! :D
QuoteOriginally posted by A Twig@Oct 23 2005, 10:56 PM
Bloody good fun tonight, came on the server and got OB with the first shot I fired! :D
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Welcome back Twiggy .... Git ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by DuVeL@Oct 23 2005, 10:24 PM
Must say it was fun, I even zapped Dewey! Shocking haha.
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Git! :blush: I got my revenge though, you where sniping away in Mashtur city overlooking the town square and I found your hidey place, and landed a nice grenade on your butt :rolleyes:
Hey oldbloke,
How come you where using an APC on Zatar Wetlands last night? Imagine our sides surprise as we fought valiantely to repel your teams advances only to see you trundling over in your apc - ya lazy bugger :narnar:
QuoteOriginally posted by BIG-Dewey@Oct 24 2005, 11:43 AM
Hey oldbloke,
How come you where using an APC on Zatar Wetlands last night? Imagine our sides surprise as we fought valiantely to repel your teams advances only to see you trundling over in your apc - ya lazy bugger :narnar:
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We'd run out of vehicles so used it as a taxi - meant you were able to dispatch us more quickly :D
I realised at the start that this map wasn't gonna be suitable for the previous 'no vehicles' ruling so asked Armitage if it was OK to just ban tanks, helos and planes. 'OK' he replied. Then when the map was restarted he shouts 'JEEPS ONLY'. Sheesh. :dummy:
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke@Oct 24 2005, 11:49 AM
We'd run out of vehicles so used it as a taxi - meant you were able to dispatch us more quickly :D
I realised at the start that this map wasn't gonna be suitable for the previous 'no vehicles' ruling so asked Armitage if it was OK to just ban tanks, helos and planes. 'OK' he replied. Then when the map was restarted he shouts 'JEEPS ONLY'. Sheesh. :dummy:
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Fair enough, I thought that might be the case, but you should have heard the panic come over the comms in our squad though :lmfao:
QuoteOriginally posted by BIG-Dewey@Oct 24 2005, 12:41 PM
Git! :blush: I got my revenge though, you where sniping away in Mashtur city overlooking the town square and I found your hidey place, and landed a nice grenade on your butt :rolleyes:
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True! Nice nade! That was an excellent spot, got around 8 kills from that spot. I went as a sniper several times shooting from that side and hardly got discoverd, there were 2 people in a corner hiding and I kept shooting them, it was ATwig and someone else :P, they didn't knew where I was shinping from. I also used the ramp on that side of the square and there's a bush which covers really good and you can't be seen except from 1 side. I need to check out the maps a bit more for some nice gitspots. :devil:
Hey Dewey, who came on and started using vehicels aswell then? :narnar: We saw you coming on, driving around like you were in a F1 car...
Mashtuur is definitely my new favourite map, especially as it seems to run the smoothest on my PC!
QuoteOriginally posted by DuVeL@Oct 24 2005, 12:14 PM
True! Nice nade! That was an excellent spot, got around 8 kills from that spot. I went as a sniper several times shooting from that side and hardly got discoverd, there were 2 people in a corner hiding and I kept shooting them, it was ATwig and someone else :P, they didn't knew where I was shinping from. I also used the ramp on that side of the square and there's a bush which covers really good and you can't be seen except from 1 side. I need to check out the maps a bit more for some nice gitspots. :devil:
Hey Dewey, who came on and started using vehicels aswell then? :narnar: We saw you coming on, driving around like you were in a F1 car...
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Yeah Duvel I couldn't work out where the hell you where... I was above you on the highest tower and I could hear your sniper rifle cracking shots off, looked on my mini-map and could see it wasn't any of our guys but it took me about 5 minutes to find you - it was only your muzzle flash reflecting of a wall which gave your position away, I couldn't actually see you!! (thank goodness for my new 7800 GT g/c set on high detail, otherwise I might never have found you!) :D
*hands up* in my defence M'lord I had only just come on to the server after having played on a ranked server and I forgot :blush: my team mates soon put me right though *Oi Dewey! Stop riding in those bloody vehicles!* :whistle: