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Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Gone_Away on October 27, 2005, 02:03:16 PM
I want this next LAN to be one of the best yet. As I've been attending for quite some time now I wanted to make a few suggestions:

1. Approved Games List should = Approved Games Servers running 24/7

- I do not believe with the kit that we have we can not have BF2, CZ, NFS2, ??? running all the time. Having to beg to have CZ up and running is not conducive to good gaming

- Can we also allow Global Unlocks in BF2? Some of us work hard to get these unlocks and we should be able to enjoy them

2. Friday Night Compettitions

- Why should we wait until Sunday morning to finish off the compettitions? Why not start Friday evening or have a Friday only comp?
- Most people arrive then anyway and those that don't should know better  :)

3. Preconfigured Kit

- Can we please ensure that the switches etc are ready to rock before we get there?
- Can the Admins send out IP details to the individuals so that we can set it before we leave?
- Power / Extention (non RJ45) cords - Is there any value in having the community purchase some longer extension cords that could be run under the tables for the attendees to plug in their own power supply? Might keep the "spagettii incidents" down to a minimum

4. Timetable of events:

- Is it possible to set a timetable of events / comps beforehand so that people could sign up in advance to various compettitions / drinking events (Note: dMw does not promote excessive drinking)
- These could be posted on the dMw website before the LAN so the Admins / Organisers have an idea of scheduling / timing

Anyone else?? Please continue numbering if possible / practical.

Also this is not a complaint but just an attempt to make things a bit more organized!!
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Doorman on October 27, 2005, 04:26:16 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ninja_Freak@Oct 27 2005, 02:03 PM
Note: dMw does not promote excessive drinking)
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B*llocks then, I'm not coming!
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Gone_Away on October 28, 2005, 01:56:08 PM
It's amazing that all of the people that have viewed this post and the above is the most intelligent comment that you lot can muster..

please close and delete this thread. It's obvious that you lot like things the way they are.. I prefer perfection not normalicy but hey.. that's just me.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: DuVeL on October 28, 2005, 02:15:34 PM
Lo Ninja m8, you know I prefer a CZcompetition on the LAN aswell but I just didn't reply because I agree to all points accept the one Ron answerd on. I'm with him on that.
I did miss a CZcompetition and was up for it (would have kicked my Tbro from behind Dingo's rig and would have played myself).
BF2 was the new game and I and several others hadn't played it before so it was interesting.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: suicidal_monkey on October 28, 2005, 02:42:15 PM
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Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Cadaver on October 28, 2005, 02:42:45 PM
I also didn't reply, as I agreed with most of it, and didn't really have anything further to add.

I think the main reason why the last LAN didn't have the structure you desire is because TeaLeaf was on his own in the hotseat.  To give him his credit, he had spent the majority of the previous week building BlackAdder3, and probably didn't have any time left to think about competitions, timetables, and the like.  It was a good effort on his part just ensuring we all had a working server to game on.

It may also have been heavily BF2 orientated, but as DuVeL's already said, it seems to be the game of the moment and had a lot of interest.  And, to be fair, I didn't hear anyone else in that room speaking up to try and get a CS (or any other game) tourny off the ground.

My only thought is: Next time round, if more organisation is what we as a community want, maybe we should coordinate more - rather than leaving everything to the same select few.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Squonk on October 28, 2005, 02:48:53 PM
Ive been to 4/5 lans and tbh iam happy the way it is .iI dont go for the gaming I go to meet/drink with you ladies  :D
Oh and to sleep with Benny of course :whistle:
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Cadaver on October 28, 2005, 02:56:50 PM
:withstupid:
Of course, that one post summarises the main impression I had of the last (my first) LAN.  Bunch of lads in a room, who only really see each other twice a year, getting leathered, and talking sh1te to each other.  Gaming comes second.

Third is either knowingly, or unknowingly, sleeping with Benny.  ;)
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Dr Sadako on October 28, 2005, 03:10:33 PM
I think you have a valid set of points Ninja. Friday night for competitions is a splendid idea. Gives you almost two full days of taunting the loosers  :P
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Penfold on October 28, 2005, 03:37:43 PM
I agree with *some* of Ninja's points but I think the 'pre-configured' kit comment is a bit off the mark.

As Cadaver has said, firstly we had no Oldie (the upshot of which was that we also didn't have Frenzy handing our butts to on plates every few secs  :P ), secondly a switch or two went tits up which was no-one's fault and 3rdly having actually been in time to watch the  setup - it's no mean feat and all looks very complicated.

Perhaps Cadaver is right - we need a few more willing helpers (although the limits of my technical ability involved holding a bin bag and clearing up with Jamoe - The Benny/Jas/Smite corner was humming  :P ).

We know BlackAdder can cope with a multitude of games and still have enough processing power to run a small nuclear bunker and I think it was a shame those people who couldn't play BF didn't really get a look in.

Perhaps TL and Oldie should delegate those tasks that others can do to enable them to concentrate on the tasks that only they can do.

I'll stick my hand up here and say if there's anything I can do to help faciliate the next LAN then give me a shout.

PEN
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2005, 03:43:34 PM
My only observation, apart from those already offered, is that no matter how much info is sent to people beforehand many will still turn up not ready and unsure of what is going on. Prearranged times for contests? Things will happen to change it - do you really want to stop an outstanding game of whatever to ensure that the tiddlywinks contest starts on time? Pre-issued IPs? ROFL, how many will forget/won't know or just plain struggle with the idea?

I didn't post before because I am unable to attend the LANs hence felt it wasn't really my place to say what should/shouldn't happen but since you riased the point again I felt OK to respond.

BTW if I was TL I would be a bit miffed at the way some of your points come across Ninja.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Gone_Away on October 28, 2005, 04:45:06 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall+Oct 28 2005, 03:43 PM-->
QUOTE(BlueBall @ Oct 28 2005, 03:43 PM)
My only observation, apart from those already offered, is that no matter how much info is sent to people beforehand many will still turn up not ready and unsure of what is going on. Prearranged times for contests? Things will happen to change it - do you really want to stop an outstanding game of whatever to ensure that the tiddlywinks contest starts on time? Pre-issued IPs? ROFL, how many will forget/won't know or just plain struggle with the idea?

I didn't post before because I am unable to attend the LANs hence felt it wasn't really my place to say what should/shouldn't happen but since you riased the point again I felt OK to respond.

BTW if I was TL I would be a bit miffed at the way some of your points come across Ninja.
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Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2005, 05:40:23 PM
I have decided not to reply to your post. I doubt it would do much good anyway as you seem undecided as to whether you want people to comment or not - you can't have it both ways.

Carry on discussion I'm out of here.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Sn00ks on October 28, 2005, 07:24:40 PM
Ooo Ooo handbags at dawn ladies?  :devil:

More organised comps would be a laugh. Nothing to serious, maybe a 2v2 CZ knives only fragfest? :blush:

Had a few times at the LAN were I was wondering what to do and kicking of an UT2k4 server for amusement.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: OldBloke on October 29, 2005, 01:03:26 AM
Here's a heads-up ...

The single most difficult thing to organise at the LANs is the formal competition/s.

Working out the format and the teams is time consuming enough but getting the collective bums of the assembled participants seated all at the same time is a bloody nightmare. People kindly offer to go get the stragglers out of the bar and then, having rounded-up said lost sheep, decide that so long as they're there they may as well get a pint in ... so more volunteers go in search of them ... others need the bog ... etc etc.

Sorry Ninja, but it has to be done on the fly. If anyone wants to help then sit down when asked, go to the correct server at the correct time and join the correct team. Sounds simple dunnit?
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Doorman on October 29, 2005, 01:52:58 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by squonk@Oct 28 2005, 02:48 PM
Ive been to 4/5 lans and tbh iam happy the way it is .iI dont go for the gaming I go to meet/drink with you ladies :D
Oh and to sleep with Benny of course :whistle:
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YOU are just a filthy beast and your post didn't add anything to the discussion.

You got it about right though. He's good in bed, so I hear :D
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Blunt on October 29, 2005, 02:00:55 AM
as a relative LAN newbie (the last 2)...

and as someone who has tried to organise events/competitions on my watch...and familiar with the problems therein...

I was v. impressed with the smooth running and organisation of the events.

I know nothing of the switch problems...they were all taken care of by "someone" 8)

the saturday competion was organised by "someone" 8)

"someone" 8)  provided the longer cable that I needed, and the extension socket that I forgot.

"someone" 8)  helped me out with ip's etc.

and I had a fantastic weekend (twice) :D

Never having been to a LAN before, I didn't know quite what to expect...

I thouroughly enjoyed myself (as did NvG & Tox) and will keep coming as often as we can 8)

as we come from so far away, Friday afternoon is the earliest we can arrive...

but I wouldn't mind a competition in the evening and one saturday if possible :ph34r:

as TL & OB have enough on their plates IMHO...would it not be possible to pre arrange the Fri Night comp amongst ourselves before we go...

anyone going can put their names down on the forum, and we'll sort teams and a sit-down time beforehand...if you're not there, you're not there.

I'm quite keen to get these [BIG] boys onto CZ or CS...and see how big they really are :narnar:

 :huggy:
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Benny on October 29, 2005, 11:02:17 AM
A Friday night comp would prolly be good, about 10ish, when everyone is cut. Not organised before hand, just a 'We will start a competition at 10 - if you are there you play' or an 'organise a team of 4'

bit to regimented but maybe a timetable of games. Not saying you have to play x at x time, but a general 'people will be playing UT between 9-11, CZ 11-1 et, so you know that your game will be about.  (and BF2 will run 24/7 ;))
 
Teams in table lines for whatever, if your line isn't there, you sort it, TL and OB have enought to do, if you are short of players, unlucky.  CZ starts at 10am, table a vs table b, winners  play each other at 11. Fairly easy.

I don't think Ninj is complaining, just suggesting is how I took it, and I agree with soe of it, but I do like the freedom of it as is. A tough balance. We do seem to play less variety nowadays, but then I suppose that's the way it's evolved. I'd like to ry a few new things, but not lose the 'we are all adults and can pretty much do what we want' arrangement.

So....suggested comps, at suggested times, if you're in you're in, if you miss it, your team if they are playing miss out. Maybe a CZ ladder over the weekend. teams sort their own opponents.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Armitage on October 29, 2005, 12:59:28 PM
The only 3 things I would change from the last LAN would be:

1. Get the whole day off work. As I didn't get there until gone 2pm and missed out on 2 hours of good drinking :(

2. Not get the 5am flight from Stansted to Ireland earlier in the week so I wasn't still knackered.

3. Sort the BF2 server out with BF2CC. It was just a shame with Oldie not coming, we had no one who knew how to configure the server.

More comps would be nice. but it's not easy to drag people away from the bar :)

May be if we could have the LAN forum up and running again. So we could run a few smaller comps.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 30, 2005, 10:32:51 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ninja_Freak+Oct 27 2005, 02:03 PM-->
QUOTE(Ninja_Freak @ Oct 27 2005, 02:03 PM)
1. Approved Games List should = Approved Games Servers running 24/7

- I do not believe with the kit that we have we can not have BF2, CZ, NFS2, ??? running all the time. Having to beg to have CZ up and running is not conducive to good gaming[/b]
CZ server *was* up and running all the time.

QuoteOriginally posted by Ninja_Freak@Oct 27 2005, 02:03 PM
2. Friday Night Compettitions

- Why should we wait until Sunday morning to finish off the compettitions? Why not start Friday evening or have a Friday only comp?
- Most people arrive then anyway and those that don't should know better :)
We finished our competition on Saturday - you drank more than you remember.

QuoteOriginally posted by Ninja_Freak@Oct 27 2005, 02:03 PM
3. Preconfigured Kit

- Can we please ensure that the switches etc are ready to rock before we get there?
- Can the Admins send out IP details to the individuals so that we can set it before we leave?
- Power / Extention (non RJ45) cords - Is there any value in having the community purchase some longer extension cords that could be run under the tables for the attendees to plug in their own power supply? Might keep the "spagettii incidents" down to a minimum
Switches: Already posted as something under consideration - we had 2 switch failures on the day and that kind of bolloxed us.  It's not a normal occurrence so shouldn't happen again.

IPs - it would take longer to prep the IPs thn it would for you to type it in.  Suffer a bit - it's good for you ;p

Power sockets - it is a LAN requirement to bring these aloing so there shouldn't be any problem.  There are 6 x 134A sockets for a table with 6 people on it.  Everything should be just fine.

Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: JB on October 30, 2005, 10:44:43 AM
I personally think it's just fine the way it is and think things would definately be worse off if they went more 'regimented', people want different things from the LAN and being able to do/play just what you want is ideal.  Would like to have more of the fixed A v's B type games though, didn't we just have 1 game on the saturday?
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Gone_Away on October 30, 2005, 09:47:14 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JB@Oct 30 2005, 11:44 AM
Would like to have more of the fixed A v's B type games though, didn't we just have 1 game on the saturday?
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Perhaps we drank the same amount as that's what I recall..

Thanks for the input TL.
Title: LAN IX - Wish List (Games, Events, Etc)
Post by: Ranger on November 04, 2005, 10:54:10 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ninja_Freak@Oct 28 2005, 12:56 PM
It's amazing that all of the people that have viewed this post and the above is the most intelligent comment that you lot can muster..

please close and delete this thread. It's obvious that you lot like things the way they are.. I prefer perfection not normalicy but hey.. that's just me.
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LOL...

But seriously - as the infamous control freak I like your suggestions...

I especially like the idea of a games list. Although I am a BF2 nut there are a few games coming out now that would be great at the next LAN..

Call of Duty 2 - Age of Empires III - Quake 4

And maybe a nice racing game that's easy to get into (and doesn't require a wheel and peddles)....Something that we can crash into each other a lot! LOL

Anyone remember 'Carmaggedon'???

 :devil:
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