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Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 09, 2005, 09:10:49 AM
Just starting this thread off as I (and Dewey) recieved our copies yesterday...

Unfortunately neither of us were able to have a go as he had a badmington match and I was involved in an epic Karkand on the dMw server!

:)

One thing that is worth telling you though (because I thought it was funny) is that I dropped Dewey right in it at lunch yesterday by telling his missus that we had got 'CoD2' and that we intended playing it all through the Xmas holidays!

"Oh you do do you?" She said looking menacingly at Dewey!

He kinda just melted!

 :lmfao:

Looking forward to having a go though ~ especially the British and Russian theatres (the US ones leave me a bit cold as we've been there and done that with the first 'CoD').

I would have loved to have show this to my Dad - who was in the 8th Army! LOL ~ He would have found something wrong I bet!

:)

(He was a corporal - so thought he knew as much as Monty! LOL)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: sulky_uk on December 09, 2005, 09:17:36 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ranger@Dec 9 2005, 09:10 AM



One thing that is worth telling you though (because I thought it was funny) is that I dropped Dewey right in it at lunch yesterday by telling his missus that we had got 'CoD2' and that we intended playing it all through the Xmas holidays!

"Oh you do do you?" She said looking menacingly at Dewey!

He kinda just melted!
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nice one  :worshippy:

theres  one thing i always do (being married as well) put all games on the visa , cause she doesnt see the bill, and then hide the game in my cd folder and bin the case :biggrin:
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Dewey on December 09, 2005, 09:23:58 AM
Jo doesn't mind me playing games as long as I spend quality time with her too, which is fine with me, its a good compromise. Now i've got her mobile on the wireless network she goes online nearly as much as I do on ebay etc  :D

Had a quick 15 mins on COD2, nice graphics, similar to the 1st one, but we'll see how it goes... oh and I'm starting on HARD, as it seems the games over in around 8 hours so I want my money's worth  :)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 09, 2005, 09:46:02 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BIG-Dewey@Dec 9 2005, 09:23 AM
Jo doesn't mind me playing games as long as I spend quality time with her too, which is fine with me, its a good compromise.
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Was only pulling yer leg mate!

:)

...At least you've not given up BF2 to play Sims2 with your girly like some folks we know! ;)

LOL
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Dewey on December 09, 2005, 10:51:17 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ranger@Dec 9 2005, 10:46 AM
Was only pulling yer leg mate!

:)

...At least you've not given up BF2 to play Sims2 with your girly like some folks we know! ;)

LOL
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I know you where mate  :D
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Hippy on December 09, 2005, 06:33:57 PM
Played CoD2 on one of the xbox360 demo stands in my lunch break. Got enthralled in it. ended up being late. nevermind it was worth it.

Only down fall was the silly 360 pad...i kept trying to strafe with my index finger and hit the 'throw smoke grenade' button a few times.... dunno if it'll play as sweetly on my rig, only using a 9800pro.
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 09, 2005, 08:23:50 PM
Quicky first impressions...

Was able to have a 45 minutes tonight on CoD2 while the kids were having tea!

Graphics are nice enough - maps and scenery are terrific (as you might expect for a set piece game).

The Russian introductory senario is quite exciting ~ at one point you get attacked by waves of Germans...Great fun to hold out!

(I have set the difficulty to 'Hardened' ~ second hardest. And I think that is a fair difficulty if you want a challenge.)

Play is really a sort of basic puzzle solving set in a linear narrative...

You soon work out the best way to approach a problem ~ as believe me, a lot of teh time it is literally all about how you APPROACH a problem that gets you through.

Always be cautious and use grenades before you enter ANY building and you won't go far wrong.

Choosing which weapon to use at what time is another important part of the ~ use teh rifle for ranged stuff (try to keep teh enemy at a diustance where possible ~ and use teh smgs when you have no choice but to go in close (trenches and bunkers).

USE THE SMOKE GRENADE A LOT!

Its early to say yet what I think about the narrative, single player game (I will mainly playing that over Xmas) ~ but I will be interested to see how the multiplayer goes.

Don't know how the server system works yet or how we could meet online (if anyone is interested).


SO far ***/***** ~ but it's early days.
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Dingo on December 09, 2005, 09:28:39 PM
Watch out for the sniping section with the Russians on that setting as the Jerries frequently get in the building before you can take out the machine gunners.....it gets a bit frantic!!

I know you said you didn't fancy the Amercians again but just so you know one of the best parts of the game is the American beach landing and what happens once you get to the top of the cliff.....I'll say no more  :D

Oh, and the hill assault should test your mettle :ph34r:


Online is a far different game and is more difficult than COD but the scenery is superb.

Until the new year you could meet here
{]DBP[}Killing Fields CoD2    67.19.176.52:28960


And in the new year in the UK here
{]DBP[}Killing Fields - UK     217.158.150.3:35090


have fun.....I know you will :)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Doorman on December 09, 2005, 11:40:07 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dingo@Dec 9 2005, 09:28 PM
Watch out for the sniping section with the Russians on that setting as the Jerries frequently get in the building before you can take out the machine gunners.....it gets a bit frantic!!

I know you said you didn't fancy the Amercians again but just so you know one of the best parts of the game is the American beach landing and what happens once you get to the top of the cliff.....I'll say no more :D

Oh, and the hill assault should test your mettle :ph34r:
Online is a far different game and is more difficult than COD but the scenery is superb.

Until the new year you could meet here
{]DBP[}Killing Fields CoD2  67.19.176.52:28960
And in the new year in the UK here
{]DBP[}Killing Fields - UK   217.158.150.3:35090
have fun.....I know you will :)
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Pimp.  :)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Dingo on December 09, 2005, 11:44:11 PM
Come....taste my wares....one and all :dribble:  :whistle:
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 10, 2005, 12:08:18 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dingo@Dec 9 2005, 09:28 PM
Watch out for the sniping section with the Russians on that setting as the Jerries frequently get in the building before you can take out the machine gunners.....it gets a bit frantic!!

I know you said you didn't fancy the Amercians again but just so you know one of the best parts of the game is the American beach landing and what happens once you get to the top of the cliff.....I'll say no more :D

Oh, and the hill assault should test your mettle :ph34r:
Online is a far different game and is more difficult than COD but the scenery is superb.

Until the new year you could meet here
{]DBP[}Killing Fields CoD2  67.19.176.52:28960
And in the new year in the UK here
{]DBP[}Killing Fields - UK   217.158.150.3:35090
have fun.....I know you will :)
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Will have to set up my Nostromo first! (...And my Voice Buddy if we get that sorted this week!

Even more controls to remember than normal...

But it looks like it will be fun with multiplayer ~ plenty of new weapons to play with!

Like my .303 Enfield!

And teh smoke grenades are superb in CoD2 ~ wish we had these in BF2! Actually worek the way they should and really do give cover!

:)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Doorman on December 10, 2005, 01:38:08 AM
I think I'll go and buy that.
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Dingo on December 10, 2005, 03:27:35 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Dec 10 2005, 01:38 AM
I think I'll go and buy that.
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Tis not a game for girlies Ron, you sure you want to play a MAN's GAME?
 :boxing:  :D
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 10, 2005, 10:14:28 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Dec 10 2005, 01:38 AM
I think I'll go and buy that.
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You'll like it Ron...

I think you have to accept ~ whatever marketing bumph developers try and sell you about these scenery based linear narrative FPSs ~ that there will be a little repitition and sense of having to follow a set path through the game...

[Unlink non-linear games like BF2 where you are free to explore the map at will ~ the trade off is that people will say; BF2, terrific multiplayer, crap single player - and with CoD2; so-so mulitplayer, terrific single player!]

However, CoD2 does make quite an effort to make your 'tour' through their scenery an enjoyable one by making the 'sets' really atmospheric.

Dewey and I both found the Russian introductory senario a bit of a 'wow' ~ especially the moment when, while you are hiding in a trench, a squadron of German tanks rumbles over the top of you! (You just have to cower at the bottom of your hole!)

Fantastic!

The British desert campaign is nice because you get to play with the British weaponary, Enfield, Bren and Thompson ~ although (on a technical note) this is the one area where the developers have 'skimped' as the 8th Army mostly had the 1928 version of the Thopmson - the one you see in the gangster movies - while the US Army had the newer A1 version that is represented in teh game. It seems like making one model of this was enough for the developers ~ Small niggle!

This was my Dad's favourite weapon - mainly because he was a fan of 1920/30 American ganster movies with Cagney in them! (A bit like Prvate Pike in 'Dad's Army'!)

:)

The one other ommission (so far) that I am disappointed at is the lack of the British .303 Vickers machine gun. This had an iconic place in the campaign ~ and certainly was one of the best infantry machine guns of the war. I was looking forward to holding a sandbagged emplacement with a the Vicky = 'Raaa-tttaaaa-tat-tat-tat!'

(Instead we have to make do with the German MG42.)

Get it Ron ~ You'll have fun...Though don't expect it to be as long lived as BF2 (unless the multiplayer DOES turn out to be OK).

;)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 13, 2005, 10:54:24 AM
...Got to the American senario - D-Day action!

Taking the German bunkers is fun, and some nice fighting over the farm walls and narrow lanes.

So far I think the best senarios are:

1) Russion Front (These are just superb - the house to house fighting is amazing!)

2) American D-Day Senario - Taking the beachhead bunkers is great

3) North Africa - all together disappointed with the British senario. I realize they are trying to gice you a complete change of scene - But I would have preferred a British senario that centered around either a Commando raid OR, best of all, the Parachute Brigade attacks on the German radar installations in Normandy, and Pegasus Bridge.

I am disappointed we don't have a Mk. 5 Sten (but they have cheated and used the same Thompson that they use in the American senarios)...And the Red Berets missions were highly crucial to the sucess of teh D-Day invasion.

(Incidently, the Americans will always tell you that the crucial action on D-Day was the one shown in the American senario of CoD2 - Pointe du Hoc, the attack on the German heavy guns...In actual fact the Parachute Brigade's attack on the German radar that same day, is as important (and probably more so) as it was this radar that was the 'eyes' of the German high command. The fact that the guns were not even at the Pointe du Hoc reduced the success of the Ranger's mission, while the Britsh Para mission was a complete success and effectively 'blinded' the Germans in this area.)

But - as I said - they wanted a bit of desert to give some variety to the maps. Ah well.
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Carr0t on December 13, 2005, 05:11:53 PM
Something I thougth I noticed with this game, but could do with confirmation on (I was playing Hardened too):

Am I right in thinking that enemies respawn endlessly until you advance? I swear there were areas where I was afraid of running out and getting shot, so I was sniping germans with the rifle. There just seemed to be an endless supply of them. Then i'd get a bullet in the head, restart from the last checkpoint, and be past the section with only about 3 groups of Germans having come at me, as I spotted a gap in the waves and advanced to cover further up the line. Suddenly no more Germans coming right up to me, but seemingly endless waves from past the next area of good cover, until I manage to once again dash up during a lull in the waves (i.e. between wiping out this lot and the next lot appearing. It seems to be there every time, you just have to make sure that all the Germans are dead while not heasitating, cos if you run out and they're there you'll get shot, and if you hesitate too long to check then the next wave will appear before you get to cover).
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Dewey on December 13, 2005, 07:27:19 PM
CarrOt, thats exactly right, PCZone mentioned this as one of the few annoying things about the game, respawning dead germans.

QuoteOriginally posted by Carr0t@Dec 13 2005, 06:11 PM
Something I thougth I noticed with this game, but could do with confirmation on (I was playing Hardened too):

Am I right in thinking that enemies respawn endlessly until you advance? I swear there were areas where I was afraid of running out and getting shot, so I was sniping germans with the rifle. There just seemed to be an endless supply of them. Then i'd get a bullet in the head, restart from the last checkpoint, and be past the section with only about 3 groups of Germans having come at me, as I spotted a gap in the waves and advanced to cover further up the line. Suddenly no more Germans coming right up to me, but seemingly endless waves from past the next area of good cover, until I manage to once again dash up during a lull in the waves (i.e. between wiping out this lot and the next lot appearing. It seems to be there every time, you just have to make sure that all the Germans are dead while not heasitating, cos if you run out and they're there you'll get shot, and if you hesitate too long to check then the next wave will appear before you get to cover).
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Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 14, 2005, 08:57:08 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Carr0t@Dec 13 2005, 05:11 PM
Something I thougth I noticed with this game, but could do with confirmation on (I was playing Hardened too):

Am I right in thinking that enemies respawn endlessly until you advance? I swear there were areas where I was afraid of running out and getting shot, so I was sniping germans with the rifle. There just seemed to be an endless supply of them. Then i'd get a bullet in the head, restart from the last checkpoint, and be past the section with only about 3 groups of Germans having come at me, as I spotted a gap in the waves and advanced to cover further up the line. Suddenly no more Germans coming right up to me, but seemingly endless waves from past the next area of good cover, until I manage to once again dash up during a lull in the waves (i.e. between wiping out this lot and the next lot appearing. It seems to be there every time, you just have to make sure that all the Germans are dead while not heasitating, cos if you run out and they're there you'll get shot, and if you hesitate too long to check then the next wave will appear before you get to cover).
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Yep that's right...

I actually like this - it FORCES you to make an advance (you can't  just sit back and pick off a set amount of enemy til they are all gone - something that was a bad thing with Ghost Recon 1 and other FPSs single player modes).

I also like teh sneaky way they try and out-flank your position.

I was defending a bunker last night, and all of a sudden the bast**ds appeared BEHIND me! They had sneaked through an underground corridoor between the bunkers!

Cool!

:)

But I would still like a co-op mode - all too often, with me taking the initiative to advance (being the human player) I found myself surrounded by enemy with my AI teammates lagging some way behind!

Be great if you could play this co-op with some other dMw guys!
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 14, 2005, 09:01:05 AM
Yesterday I reported that I was a bit disappointed in the British North African campaign.

Well, last night I got past this section and it turns out that the game follows the British 7th Armoured Divisions progress on D-Day towards the battle at Caen!

:)

A lot better! Plenty of house to house stuff AND (as if by magic) the Sten gun has turned up.

Even better m- IMHO - it is better than the Thompson or the MP40 and as good as the Russian SMGs that I mentioned above

I am now a happy chappy again.

:)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Carr0t on December 14, 2005, 11:30:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ranger@Dec 14 2005, 08:57 AM
Yep that's right...

I actually like this - it FORCES you to make an advance (you can't just sit back and pick off a set amount of enemy til they are all gone - something that was a bad thing with Ghost Recon 1 and other FPSs single player modes).
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Indeed, I didn't say I didn't like it, it just caught me out the first few times as I wasn't expecting it. Given how hectic I  imagine the war really was I think this is a good way of portraying it without just completely overwhelming you with enemies. Same as the health system in the game. The amount of Germans out there, and the ease with which you can die, make up for the ease with which you can get back to full health just by briefly ducking into cover. And it means you don't have the unrealistic 'health packs' lying around.
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Doorman on December 14, 2005, 12:52:28 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Carr0t@Dec 14 2005, 11:30 AM
ease with which you can get back to full health just by briefly ducking into cover. And it means you don't have the unrealistic 'health packs' lying around.
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Health packs=unrealistic. Ducking undercover=realistic?  :roflmao:
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Carr0t on December 14, 2005, 01:01:59 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Dec 14 2005, 12:52 PM
Health packs=unrealistic. Ducking undercover=realistic? :roflmao:
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:narnar: Well, they have to make some concessions to actually make the game fun to play. Personally if it was 2 shots = death, over an entire campaign, I think i'd quickly get bored. I'm just saying I preferred this method of ducking undercover to calm down and regain health over finding health packs strewn about the place.
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 14, 2005, 01:49:59 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Carr0t@Dec 14 2005, 01:01 PM
:narnar: Well, they have to make some concessions to actually make the game fun to play. Personally if it was 2 shots = death, over an entire campaign, I think i'd quickly get bored. I'm just saying I preferred this method of ducking undercover to calm down and regain health over finding health packs strewn about the place.
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Yeah - i like it too...

It's actually got me into making better use of cover.

I now have my Nostromo set up properly using the 'D' pad to lean left and right, crouch and go prone. And I make use of them...

There's now a lot more sidling up to corners of walls, etc, then LEANING out to have a peek, then taking a pop shot and poping my head back in again! Reloading, then leaning back out...

It FEELS more realistic to do this ~ rather than the 'rush straight at your opponent firing like a maniac' that we do in BF2 sometimes.

Firefights seem to last longer in CoD2 because you are trying to get good position, and are picking away at your opponent until you get them...

Headshots are a pure pleasure in CoD2 because you blow the enemy's helmet off! LOL

That's why I look forward to Ghost Recon 3 - you can set the server to one shot kills AND 'knock out' so when you are dead you are dead! (And have to wait until teh next round to rejoin - Boy! Are people more careful then! LOL)

;)
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Carr0t on December 14, 2005, 03:15:03 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ranger@Dec 14 2005, 01:49 PM
Headshots are a pure pleasure in CoD2 because you blow the enemy's helmet off! LOL
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Don't always kill 'em though. Something I really liked, just one of those little touches, happened several times in CoD2. I'd hit a guy in the head (generally as they were ducking out from behing a wall, so vertical cover, rather than horizontal cover like a barricade), their helmet'd go spinning off behind them and they'd disappear. A few seconds later their head'd come poking back round sans helmet, and they'd turn and look behind them to where the helmet landed, then turn back (assuming you gave them this long before shooting them in the head again). Maybe it was my imagination, but on those occasions when I was using the scoped sniper rifle (so had a fairly close up view) i'd swear that Infinity Ward had some pretty good scared/amazed facial expressions for the troops when that happened.

On a further random note, I note that your squadmates can pick up potato mashers and hurl them back at the enemy if they're fast enough, but you don't seem to be able to do this...
Title: Call of Duty 2 (full game)
Post by: Ranger on December 14, 2005, 03:35:28 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Carr0t@Dec 14 2005, 03:15 PM
On a further random note, I note that your squadmates can pick up potato mashers and hurl them back at the enemy if they're fast enough, but you don't seem to be able to do this...
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Ahhhhhh - glad you noticed this ~ I've been searching for the key that always ME to do this! LOL

Maybe there isn't one.