Dead Men Walking

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/02/02/nv...ce_7800_gs_agp/ (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/02/02/nvidia_geforce_7800_gs_agp/)

Thanks for the post BB. I think to begin with they were strictly pci express but its good news they are making them agp too :). So when we gonna upgrade our graphics cards BB? As we bought the same one before ;)

heres review of the XFX Version:

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=872 (http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=872)

yummee!

OMFG :dribble:

any one found a link that ships to uk or a uk site???

QuoteOriginally posted by sulky_uk@Feb 3 2006, 07:16 PM
OMFG :dribble:

any one found a link that ships to uk or a uk site???

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Scan (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.ASP?CatID=15&FilterCategories=97&Thumbnails=yes)

I'll let you know how good it is next week - I've just ordered the Gamers Edition  :devil:

QuoteCompared to a recent test of a Radeon X1600 XT on PCI Express, with Athlon 64 4000+ (equal to our FX-53 in the AGP system), the BFG 7800 GS OC is ahead by over 50 per cent in our Far Cry benchmark.

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 4 2006, 12:32 PM
I'll let you know how good it is next week - I've just ordered the Gamers Edition :devil:

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Let me know BB! I am interested as to why you upgraded. Our card is still alot better than most peoples :blush: Do some tests and please post them. I am very interested.

maybe this will explain why I upgraded:

7800GS v X850XT (http://ckturbo128.proboards4.com/index.cgi?board=computerhardware&action=display&thread=1138544120)

:o

As I don't want to build a new rig anytime soon this might just be a perfect upgrade from my 9600pro.

 :dribble:

Looks like it is going to be a good overclocking card:

480/1380 from 375/1200 !!! with standard fans/heatsink

Now if Riva Tuner issue a new version that lets you unlock the disabled pipes/rops we could have a killer on our hands

Just for the info this card is £229.95 (£270.19 Including VAT at 17.5%)  on overclockers.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6800_Series.html (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6800_Series.html)

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 5 2006, 10:28 AM
Just for the info this card is £229.95 (£270.19 Including VAT at 17.5%) on overclockers.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6800_Series.html (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6800_Series.html)

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But the XFX version which is clocked higher and comes with a double lifetime warranty (ie you can sell it and the buyer gets a lifetime warranty too) is cheaper at Scan:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=344018 (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=344018)

and because I joined Hexus net forums I get free shipping from Scan :D

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 5 2006, 11:14 AM
But the XFX version which is clocked higher and comes with a double lifetime warranty (ie you can sell it and the buyer gets a lifetime warranty too) is only £5 more at Scan:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=344018 (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=344018)

and because I joined Hexus net forums I get free shipping from Scan :D

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Scan
256MB XFX Geforce 7800GS XT GAMERS Edition AGP DDR3 DVI + VGA + TV Out
Manufacturer code    PVT70-KUAD7
£199.99    Ex VAT (£234.99)

Overclockers
XFX GeForce 7800 GS Extreme Edition 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (PVT70-KUAD7)
£229.95   (£270.19 Including VAT at 17.5%)  

35£ more on Overclockers. :o

Sorry BB I should have made my post clearer.


the XFX version is at the bottom :) . I was just pointing out its alot cheaper on Scan. :)

I should have been clearer too, Its not £5 more at Scan its about £40 less :D

They sold out at scan so i had another quick look on ebuyer and came across this from BFG Tech

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...duct_uid=103597 (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=103597)

not OCed as much

Core Clock: 400MHz (vs. 375MHz standard)
Memory Clock: 1250MHz (vs.1200MHz standard)

compared with the XFX one

**GPU over clocked to 440MHZ (vs 375Mhz Standard)**

**Memory over clocked to 1300MHZ (vs 1200Mhz Standard)**

Many of the reviews I have read show that people are succesfully overclocking the 7800 GS to 480/1350 on the standard HSF :D

Mine should arrive today (according to the Citylink website)  :devil:

:dribble:

let me know how you get on (not that i need to ask :) )

such a nice upgrade im considering it despite the wifes wrath..  :devil:

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 7 2006, 10:17 AM
:dribble:

let me know how you get on (not that i need to ask :) )

such a nice upgrade im considering it despite the wifes wrath.. :devil:

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My SWMBO doesn't know yet. Hopefully I'll get it in the case without her noticing  :ph34r:

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 7 2006, 10:20 AM
My SWMBO doesn't know yet. Hopefully I'll get it in the case without her noticing :ph34r:

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 :roflmao:

If only i had thought ahead, im home today waiting for estate agent to come and take pictures. I could have got it delivered and installed today.

I'm also interested in this card BB. I'd like to hear your comments on ease of use/installation as well as what you think of the overall quality of this card and it's manufacturer.

It is a good deal for what you get.

NF

I guess install should be pretty easy. I am currently running my 6800GT using the 83.40 drivers from guru3d site ( http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1309 (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1309) ). These are the first drivers to include the 7800GS in the inf file so it should be a case of plug in and restart PC :) NB these drivers ARE WHQL certified.

XFX are an excellent manufacturer. They warranty the cards for overclocking and supply software/instructions as to how to overclock. Additionally, XFX give a double lifetime warranty. this means you have lifetime warranty for the card and if you sell it the buyer is entitled to a lifetime warranty as well :)

It's here! It's here!  :dribble:

Need to get home b4 I install it though :(

Sweet.. Post a few pics if you get a chance.

NF  :dribble:

The positives

With the 83.40 WHQL drivers I pulled old card out and inserted new card then rebooted. It just worked.

Half Life 2 Lost Coast Video Stress Test with HDR enabled. 2xAA and 4xAF

6800 GT overclocked to 6800 Ultra 75 fps
7800 GS 440/1300 (out of the box)  80 fps

I think I am CPU or Memory bandwidth limited at this point however it looked much nicer on the 7800GS

3D Mark 06
6800GT overclocked to 6800 Ultra  2661
7800 GS 440/1300 (out of the box) 3370

Doom3 Timedemo Demo1
6800 GT overclocked to 6800 Ultra 56.7 fps
7800 GS 440/1300 (out of the box)  76.4 fps

BF2
not tested yet

nVidia have generally been known for having poor performance with AA enabled. It looks like the 7800 fixes that.

Any negatives?

Yes, the HSF supplied with the card is bloody loud and screams annoyingly at you. I have contacted Zalman and Arctic Cooling to find out if they do a suitable cooling system for 7800 GS that is quiet as the 7800 GS has a different layout to the PCIe cards so the same coolers won't work :(

Overall pretty pleased apart from the noise but I have a zalman inline fan controller which I'm going to try and fit to the fan to turn the speed down a bit (even at 3D it never seems to go above 41C so plenty scope for turning the fan down a bit :))

nice :)

will seriously think about the same upgrade :)

I've tried OCing it and it takes 480/1400 nicely  :D   (still noisy though  <_< )

git, you have no idea how jealous I am...

I wish I had a laptop with more oomph, and a decent internet connection. Damn those DC++ users...

Back in stock at scan.. oh how tempted am I right now.

so tempted i have an account and basket all setup waiting for that fatel click  :unsure:

Along with a new case and a better fan for my CPU.

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 8 2006, 11:27 AM
so tempted i have an account and basket all setup waiting for that fatel click :unsure:

Along with a new case and a better fan for my CPU.

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Oooh, suits you sir. go on sir, you know you want to.

and it is done....  


BB, did the SWMBO find out?

I don't think ill be hiding it as ive just bought a case and new HSF aswell :S

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 8 2006, 12:25 PM
and it is done....
BB, did the SWMBO find out?

I don't think ill be hiding it as ive just bought a case and new HSF aswell :S

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She knows theres something up as she can hear the fan from the top of the street  <_<

i've told her there is a fan on the way out and needs changing and that i'll have a look at the weekend ;)

new nVidia driver released with support for 7800GS (it seems to be a rework of 81.98 driver but as that driver was basically really god it'll be worth trying this.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_81.98.html (http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_81.98.html)

My order should get be delivered tomorrow  :dribble:

tar for the link BB

Rubbish, even though it said in stock, the XFX is in short supply :( wont see it till around the 15th :(

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 8 2006, 10:48 PM
Rubbish, even though it said in stock, the XFX is in short supply :( wont see it till around the 15th :(

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does WoW require a top notch gx card now then? :narnar:

let us know if your fan is noisy

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 8 2006, 12:32 PM
She knows theres something up as she can hear the fan from the top of the street <_<

i've told her there is a fan on the way out and needs changing and that i'll have a look at the weekend ;)

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If your'e not careful there will be a husband on the way out and needs changing! :D

I have a plan...




yea im gonna lie :)

QuoteOriginally posted by Blunt@Feb 8 2006, 10:58 PM
does WoW require a top notch gx card now then? :narnar:

let us know if your fan is noisy

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hehe

At the last LAN me and Armitage had a little snipe out from oppoisite sides of a map. Sadly I couldnt see him but he could see me. Next LAN im gonna be seeing all :)

as for the noise.. i always wear headphoens so i dont care :D

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 9 2006, 08:52 AM
as for the noise.. i always wear headphoens so i dont care :D

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They better be bloody good headphones  <_<

Plutonic 90 things, had em for years.

is it really that bad? are you changing the fan BB?

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 9 2006, 10:02 AM
Plutonic 90 things, had em for years.

is it really that bad? are you changing the fan BB?

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As soon as i can find another fan that fits I'll be changing it. One problem is that my case is quite "open" so sound escapes quite easily. Without the headphones the sound is awful, with headphones (Plantronics 90) the sound is muted but I can still detect it. in short, the fan is a screamer. Hopefully yours will be quiet and I'll RMA mine as having a dodgy fan.

I'm still waiting on a response from Zalman/Arctic Cooling/Scan as to possible 7800GS cooling solutions.

QuoteJames Porter,

At the moment we dont have an estimated date from the suppliers as to the availablility of these cards at present.

Indications at the moment suggest that we should have further stock hopefully at the end of the month.

Regards,


Carl Horan
Scan Computers

ball bags :(

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10413 (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10413)

Have them at Komplett (31 in stock)....and £30 cheaper! :D

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 9 2006, 10:02 AM
is it really that bad? are you changing the fan BB?

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I'm going to investigate this (http://www.xfxforce.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3326&tstart=0) possibility when I get home. Hopefully this will mean I don't have to buy a new fan :)

QuoteOriginally posted by Dingo@Feb 13 2006, 12:20 PM
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10413 (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10413)

Have them at Komplett (31 in stock)....and £30 cheaper! :D

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Thats a GeForce 6800, there is a Club and POV 7800 but they are clocked lower from the look of it.


@ BB

Nice Find

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 13 2006, 01:14 PM
@ BB

Nice Find

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Better than that! it works!!!!!!!

Peace is restored in the BlueBall household :D

Basically, you need a jewellers screwdriver to remove the 5 or 6 tiny screws holding the coloured plate in place over the fan housing. On the back of the plate is some sticky polythene type substance which the fan rubs against. peel it off, replace coloured plate, reinsert graphics card and reboot. Peace, perfect peace.

Now why didn't XFX do that  <_<

would welcome some reviews of the new 7800GS AGP when you have time. Thinking of getting one myself dont want to get rid of my old AGP setup quite yet as it still does the biz on most games. Maybe when BF3 comes out I'll upgrade or when we get sight of the official MS VISTA spec.

I can play BF2 at 1280x1024 with 2xAA and high detail at 80 to 100 FPS. Need I say more?

great news :D

now i just need to wait for some stock :(

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 13 2006, 06:02 PM
Better than that! it works!!!!!!!

Peace is restored in the BlueBall household :D

Basically, you need a jewellers screwdriver to remove the 5 or 6 tiny screws holding the coloured plate in place over the fan housing. On the back of the plate is some sticky polythene type substance which the fan rubs against. peel it off, replace coloured plate, reinsert graphics card and reboot. Peace, perfect peace.

Now why didn't XFX do that <_<

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Well done that BB.  :worship:  :thumb:

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=317809&view=detailed (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=317809&view=detailed)


Okay, so they have this in stock :)

QuoteOriginally posted by Dingo@Feb 16 2006, 02:24 AM
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=317809&view=detailed (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=317809&view=detailed)
Okay, so they have this in stock :)

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Not any more they don't. Delivery expected 22/2/06

You're not having much luck m8 are you :)

You try to be helpful and where does it get you eh? :whistle:

The one at Scan is back in stock

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=344018 (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=344018)

 :dribble:

fingers crossed they actualy get one out to me :|

When you get it, strip of the plastic inside the shroud before you fit it and then you can happily OC it to 450/1.35 (gives a nice 1 to 3 speed ratio)

Would there be an overwhelming reason to ditch an X800XT for one of these?

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 16 2006, 07:54 PM
Would there be an overwhelming reason to ditch an X800XT for one of these?

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Dunno, I'm not too up on ATi cards. Is the X800 similar in idea to the 6800GT?

The 7800 GS beats my old 6800GT into a pulp. I'm hitting 100 fps in BF2 at 1280x1024 with occasional drops to 75/80 fps plus you get SM3 support and hardware video support (which the 6800 lacked). I reckon the card is up to 50% faster than my 6800 GT was (and it had been clocked to run like a 6800 Ultra)

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 16 2006, 08:58 PM
......Is the X800 similar in idea to the 6800GT?

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What's a 6800GT? Is that a Ford?

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 16 2006, 09:36 PM
What's a 6800GT? Is that a Ford?

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Close, Vauxhall although in America I believe they call it the GM ;)

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 16 2006, 09:36 PM
What's a 6800GT? Is that a Ford?

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The reviews I've seen have measured the 7800GS against the X850XT/PE from ATi

The 7800 GS tended to outperform the X850XT PE most of the time. Additionally it can do HDR and SM3.

Don't know how your X800XT stacks up against the X850XT PE but hopefully this'll give you some idea

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 16 2006, 07:54 PM
Would there be an overwhelming reason to ditch an X800XT for one of these?

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Have a nosey here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/02/vga...iii/page16.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/02/vga_charts_viii/page16.html)

Damn it - now I'm tempted.  :angry:

I was going to hold off any further upgrades to my rig, in favour of a 64-bit and PCI-e rebuild later on in the year.

However, the infernal din currently eminating from my Gainward 6800 GT Golden Sample could be enough to sway me...  :unsure:

Oh dear. :(  I've just spent a fortune on my wheel. Dare I?

QuoteOriginally posted by Cadaver@Feb 16 2006, 10:51 PM
Damn it - now I'm tempted. :angry:

I was going to hold off any further upgrades to my rig, in favour of a 64-bit and PCI-e rebuild later on in the year.

However, the infernal din currently eminating from my Gainward 6800 GT Golden Sample could be enough to sway me... :unsure:

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Personally, I would by an Arctic Cooler NV5 HSF/Fan for the 6800 GT which will cost you around £20 and kill the noise. I would then wait a year and save up some money before going PCIe/A64X2

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 16 2006, 11:15 PM
Oh dear. :( I've just spent a fortune on my wheel. Dare I?

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Its a case of when you are going to take the plunge to PCIe? The cost to move all your hardware to PCIe system would be several hundreds of piunds. I am not ready for that so £230 on the 7800GS was a good buy for me. If you are thinking of going PCIe in the next year then I would hold off.

My 2p

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 17 2006, 08:07 AM
Personally, I would by an Arctic Cooler NV5 HSF/Fan for the 6800 GT which will cost you around £20 and kill the noise. I would then wait a year and save up some money before going PCIe/A64X2

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I'd looked at those, but had heard that they don't fit all that well on the Gainward cards (http://www.gainward.com/html/product/vga/powerpack/6800GT/2400tvdvi2GS.htm).  They've got a non-standard layout for a 6800 GT.  The stock cooling solution is a dual-slot cage arrangement with two 60mm fans that tend to scream rather at full whack.  However, they come overclocked to Ultra speeds and fully warrantied straight from the factory. :)

I might just get an NV5 anyway, as they're not expensive.  What could go wrong eh?   :rolleyes:  ;)

I hear what your saying with the dual-core route.   Been speccing just such a system, and they're still just that little bit too pricey at the mo, considering the single-core performance that the majority of current games/apps would be using.

QuoteOriginally posted by Cadaver@Feb 17 2006, 09:39 AM
I hear what your saying with the dual-core route.  Been speccing just such a system, and they're still just that little bit too pricey at the mo, considering the single-core performance that the majority of current games/apps would be using.

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Remember, Norm is your friend :D

QuoteOriginally posted by Cadaver@Feb 17 2006, 09:39 AM
I might just get an NV5 anyway, as they're not expensive. What could go wrong eh?  :rolleyes: ;)

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Under £19 from Overclock (http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=18841) (NB thats Overclock.co.uk not those muppets at overclockers.co.uk)

Good news is its finally been picked and waiting for dispatch.

bad news is it wont come untill Monday and I still havent told the SWMBO  :unsure:

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Feb 17 2006, 02:01 PM
Good news is its finally been picked and waiting for dispatch.

bad news is it wont come untill Monday and I still havent told the SWMBO :unsure:

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Now I know why you bought her flowers and so for Valentinesday...

No, that was to stop him getting killed THAT day, Monday wil be a whole new ball-game! :devil:  :D

http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-wor...-geforce-7800gs (http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-world/hardware/2150499/evga-geforce-7800gs)

aparently it will be priced around £160.. bargain :)

QuoteOriginally posted by Dingo@Feb 17 2006, 01:06 PM
No, that was to stop him getting killed THAT day, Monday wil be a whole new ball-game! :devil: :D

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Im gonna smuggle it in peice by peice..

I am hoping sh wont ask cause ill crack and tell :)

No fool like an old fool. Ordered the Gamers version. I have to say it's the cheapest graphics card I've EVER bought!

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 17 2006, 03:33 PM
No fool like an old fool. Ordered the Gamers version. I have to say it's the cheapest graphics card I've EVER bought!

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Don't forget to remove the polythene from inside fan shroud if it is fitted. You'll soon know if you haven't  :doh:

Its here  :dribble:

I also removed the plate and there was no wrapper, i think they must have addressed the issue.

wife =  :ranting:    
me =  :unsure:

No polywollydoodles, no noise, just one happy bunny :D

no.. just all night rebuilding my machine, and i havent even installed the bloody card yet.   :|  im crap i know.


The new case took longer to move over too, and ive gashed my hand in the process. (removing the fdd panel of all blimmin things)

But, my new HSF is installed and its lovely, got some fan control thing with it so im tickering :). It was harder to install as i had to remove the motherboard and the base for the old HSF. Its a bit of a beast.



right, now to uninstall the grpahics stuff and stick in the new card  :dribble:

edit: just downloading new drivers ... my gosh it dont like having no drivers installed :S

Hey guys.. I may be in for a bonus at work soon. Besides the Borla exhaust for my Rex I'm looking at getting this Gfx card.

How's the performance so far? Any issues yet?

Thanks,

NF

QuoteOriginally posted by Ninja_Freak@Mar 29 2006, 12:36 PM
Hey guys.. I may be in for a bonus at work soon. Besides the Borla exhaust for my Rex I'm looking at getting this Gfx card.

How's the performance so far? Any issues yet?

Thanks,

NF

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:thumbsup: is all I can say :)

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Mar 29 2006, 01:40 PM
:thumbsup: is all I can say :)

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Like wot 'e said. :thumbsup:

QuoteOriginally posted by Ninja_Freak@Mar 29 2006, 12:36 PM
Hey guys.. I may be in for a bonus at work soon. Besides the Borla exhaust for my Rex I'm looking at getting this Gfx card.

How's the performance so far? Any issues yet?

Thanks,

NF

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X2= :woot2:  :yahoo:  :boxing:  :thumbsup:









 :whistle:

Its great :D

and u shouldnt have any problems with the fan noise as it was fixed on my card :)

 :thumbsup:

Ordered.. Should have it tomorrow .. Don't tell Mrs. Ninja_Freak  :devil:

I still haven't told mine  :devil:

Even managed to to the CC off without her noticing  :whistle:

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Apr 18 2006, 09:21 PM
I still haven't told mine :devil:

Even managed to to the CC off without her noticing :whistle:

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Cooee! Mrs Jamoe, over here.

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Apr 18 2006, 09:43 PM
Cooee! Mrs Jamoe, over here.

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:roflmao:  :roflmao:

must remember to take all phone calls in room, don't want someone inadvertantly shouting "NICE NEW GRAPHICS CARD JAMOE", when I'm on the phone to the wife.  <_<

What you drinking Ron.. sup on this and shush :P   (this could be expensive)

Box delivered  :D  :D  This sure is purdy Mrs Jamoe.. Goes well with the floral-print settie don't cha think??
 :devil:

 :dribble:  :dribble: