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Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Gandalf on February 22, 2003, 06:49:33 PM
Is out on http://www.fileplanet.com/ (http://www.fileplanet.com/)
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Stryker on February 22, 2003, 06:54:22 PM
Yet again, you need to be a Gam-giz muppet agent to download it from their crappy servers.... I'm not quiet desperate enough at this time to take the game-spaz anal probe to download it.  :Comtempt:
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on February 22, 2003, 07:14:07 PM
What is it about Gamespy that causes so much angst?

I just re-read their privacy policy and it all came flooding back :evil:


QuoteFor each visitor to our Web page, our Web server automatically recognizes and we collect that visitor's domain name and e-mail address (where possible). In addition, we collect the e-mail addresses of those who post messages to our bulletin board, the e-mail addresses of those who communicate with us via e-mail, the e-mail addresses of those who make postings to our chat areas.......................
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Gandalf on February 22, 2003, 07:27:40 PM
so, use a dud e-mail account :)
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on February 22, 2003, 07:42:30 PM
It was the line ....

QuoteFor each visitor to our Web page, our Web server automatically recognizes and we collect that visitor's domain name and e-mail address (where possible)"

as in

"We try try to lift your e-mail address straight out of your web browser, without actually bringing it to your attention at the time."

...that I have a problem with. I know using IE and Outlook Express, and having your internet security set to low is a daft thing to do, but what makes Gamespy think they have a right to my e-mail address in the first place

 :?:

Plus I can never get the bloody log-on to work (moan mumble grumble)


Although Freelancer is looking like a top game  :)
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2003, 04:49:46 PM
go here for the demo if u dont want to use fileplanet...which i imagine is everyone 8)  

http://www.microsoft.com/games/freelancer/...ownloads_05.asp (http://www.microsoft.com/games/freelancer/downloads_05.asp)
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: ChimpBoy on February 26, 2003, 06:06:13 PM
Been waiting for this game for ages - now all my Buck Rogers fantasies can come true !

Hey Smilodon, if you want you can be Twiki to my Buck ! (ooh er matron)
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: DogMeat on February 26, 2003, 06:37:04 PM
Bollocks.  Micro$lop rip off Elite. :x
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: ChimpBoy on February 26, 2003, 06:44:17 PM
Granted - I'm a total Elite and Frontier fan, but until David Braben pulls that finger out of his ass and makes Elite 4 then I'll happily make do.

Besides, Starlancer was a great space shoot em up, and it's from the same people so there is hope, and the hype in the press suggests only good things.

Interesting to see how they cope with the MP side of it, especially with the tough competition coming from Galaxies and Eve Online
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on February 26, 2003, 07:11:02 PM
QuoteHey Smilodon, if you want you can be Twiki to my Buck ! (ooh er matron)

I am fortunate in not being a complete sad-act, and therefore have no clue what you are talking about.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on February 26, 2003, 07:28:18 PM
That would be Buck Rogers in the 25th Century then!!
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on February 26, 2003, 07:30:08 PM
Well if he's in the twenty fifth century that explains why I haven't seen him.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2003, 07:49:47 PM
ive never played elite but ive heard great things about its quite a lot like a game i have played called 'Hardwar' which is amazing. its a bit old now, but the 3d graphics arnt too bad, and the game is just so good that you really wont be too bothered by the lack of eye-candy. you start off with the choice of 3 ships; ( seen this before eh? ) the trader, the scavenger and the fighter. in the game you're on a small mining colony in outer space on a small moon somewhere. you're pretty much free to do what you want, trading, fighting, gathering scrap etc until you want to progress. you can customise your ship and buy hangers, which you can turn into a handy little shop to make money as you fly around on your merry adventure. pretty standard elite-rip off fare i guess, but worth a look
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2003, 08:03:00 PM
in fact, screw cs im gunna play hardwar  :D

...now where did i put those damn disks.... :?
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: albert on March 06, 2003, 12:01:45 AM
I have a copy of Freelancer and like it, but it's not as complex or as involved as Elite was, you dock automatically etc.. Elite was a bitch to dock on, but freelancer is very playable and a good space shoot em up game. The story is a nice backdrop and the graphics are nice using the same engine as Haegemonia. But.... Haegemonia is a superb RTS game and the graphics are amazing //www.haegemonia.com only £17 on //www.play.com.

Freelancer: Rating: 7/10
Haegemonia: Legions of Iron 8.5/10
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on March 06, 2003, 01:19:23 AM
Is that the same Freelancer that due out in April? You don't mean Freespace?
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: ChimpBoy on March 06, 2003, 03:38:28 PM
Yeah thats what I was thinking (great minds and all that....)
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on March 06, 2003, 06:45:47 PM
OMFG Smiley ang Chimpy agree about something!

This must be a momentary lapse before normal service is resumed. Please please don't tell us you've kissed and made up? :shag1:
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Dingo on March 06, 2003, 09:28:51 PM
You don't want to know the full Grizzly details GFK!! 8O


........but if you do I believe their lurve video is available from

BuckdoesTwiki.com

nice boys!!  :evil:  :evil:
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on March 06, 2003, 09:43:56 PM
No I think that would be too scarey for one of my delicate sensiblities :wtf:
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: DarkAngel on March 06, 2003, 11:17:25 PM
this game better be good its taking 25 mins to dl
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: DarkAngel on March 07, 2003, 12:30:24 AM
hmmm dont think me graphices card can handle it becasue all the letters and stuff is screwed up animation is fine just the writing etc any one else have same thing or is me system crap or have i got a bad copy of the demo??
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on March 07, 2003, 01:35:10 AM
Oh my god it's a bloody point and click!!!!!

Well that's that then  :(
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: albert on March 07, 2003, 10:54:16 AM
QuoteIs that the same Freelancer that due out in April? You don't mean Freespace?

Nope Freelancer, by Microsoft. I can read  :D  you had me thinking I was going mad for a bit there, it must be US version I downloaded. It certainly is the whole game, I have a full disk ISO image that I burned, and a have wee exe replacement file.

Oh and everything but space travel is point and click yeah.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on March 07, 2003, 12:30:29 PM
You pirate you  :wink:

Well I don't play point and click games on principle unless they are ultra funny i.e Sam and Max, Grim Fandango.

Now if they had combined Freespace 2 as the fighting element with Deus Ex as the on base element they would have had a winner.

Frankly the demo (and therefore the whole game I suspect) stinks like a stinky thing that just farted.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: albert on March 07, 2003, 12:50:24 PM
QuoteYou pirate you :wink:

Well I don't play point and click games on principle unless they are ultra funny i.e Sam and Max, Grim Fandango.

Now if they had combined Freespace 2 as the fighting element with Deus Ex as the on base element they would have had a winner.

Frankly the demo (and therefore the whole game I suspect) stinks like a stinky thing that just farted.

It's pretty much a follow orders type space game with a bit of free flying between main missions. It's ok I suppose.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: DarkAngel on March 07, 2003, 03:07:22 PM
if you dl kazza lite yuo can dl full movies and games fun fun fun only get TMD movies as they are best quality. Im sure you all have it.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on March 09, 2003, 11:47:28 PM
Kazaa, grockster, gnutella etc etc I have 'em all

For freeware downloads of course
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: DarkAngel on March 10, 2003, 12:06:49 AM
got a new graphics card so i can actually play that game now quite fun :)
Only thing i dont like is that u can change the design of a ship :(
Fun though
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on March 15, 2003, 01:56:17 PM
It just got 90% and game of the month in PC Gamer so it seems it may be better that I though it would be.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: FrEnZy on March 17, 2003, 12:42:20 PM
I resently got a copy at i15, and im loving it. And i normaly hate space flight games.

*wanders off to ambush another frigate*
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Stryker on March 17, 2003, 12:44:28 PM
is it possible we could run a server?  whats the bandwidth usage like?

All I know is a server is a solarsystem.... I think, and all the servers are interlinked to form the galaxy, whatever....
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on March 29, 2003, 03:59:26 PM
For those of us that pay for their games it's confirmed for release next Friday
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: OldBloke on March 29, 2003, 05:06:37 PM
I've been using Frenzy's 'try b4 buy' version and I like it so I'll be buying a copy  :D
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: Stryker on March 30, 2003, 10:37:28 PM
I've won the game, well completed all the missions and story line.  V nice game.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on May 16, 2003, 11:52:31 PM
I would just like to point out that this game has stolen what little spare time i have ....... :P


Please can someone warn me nextime  :roll:
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: A Twig on May 17, 2003, 12:27:51 PM
I hated this game??? Found it really slow, samey and linear???? Ah well, Space things aren't really my scene neways...
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on May 17, 2003, 01:18:29 PM
Only played the demo, but one day they WILL remake Elite, but not yet it seems.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 17, 2003, 05:49:52 PM
Highly recommended smiley - great game.  Elite will be remade no doubt (see link below) but I wouldn't hold your breath.  Another Condition Zero if you ask me.

http://www.frontier.co.uk/games/elite4/faq.html (http://www.frontier.co.uk/games/elite4/faq.html)

QuoteI hated this game??? Found it really slow, samey and linear????

Twiggy, were you even playing the same game mate?  It wasn't really linear as you could opt in and out of the central story any time you liked.  There were loads of sub-plots to get into, you just had to fly off and delay the main story when it tried to pull you back in.  Strange.  Not sure what you meant by samey - don't all games suffer from an element of repetition?  Then again if it aint your thing then it aint your thing  :)
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on May 17, 2003, 08:50:56 PM
Going only from the demo, they give you a whiff of free form play and then lock you out of so much potential. I wanted to land at the base or dock or whatever (maybe with a few docking radio messages). Then walk my character into the base and around the bars, ship suppliers, traders and whatnot. A bit like Baldurs Gate or Morrowind. I certainly didn't expect a trader to be a bloke standing on the landing pad next to a pile of boxes. It was as if they tantalised you with freedom of game-play and then didn't go the whole way. I felt a bit conned (or would have if I had payed).

Hey wait a minute.......promises of real freedom?......but locked down in reality?.......a game by Microsoft?........ahhhh it all makes sense.

Lets not go there though :wink:
Each to their own
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 20, 2003, 11:57:35 AM
Don't know bout anyone else, but I was having huge probs performance wise with this game - lots of slow down when flicking between menu screens and when engaging cruise engines, even on a high spec pc like mine (2.5ghz, 768mb ram).

I have an ATI Radeon 9700, and just updated the drivers, and now the probs are gone.  Now nobody in space can hear me scream.  Yay  :D

QuoteGoing only from the demo, they give you a whiff of free form play and then lock you out of so much potential

I thought that was the point of demo's  :wink:  - to give a taster (which it does in fairness).  Also, is it really such a big deal that instead of walking to some guy at the bar you just click on him?  TBH it makes no difference, and given the size of the game these are minor quibbles.  And you do get docking radio messages, plus random comms chatter from enemies in dogfights which is a nice touch  :?

You can play through the campaign missions then continue playing free-form after this, or opt out of the missions at any point - the choice, as they say, is yours.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: smilodon on May 20, 2003, 12:49:43 PM
It was something else? The space flight, branching quests, reputation amongst factions, sub plots and career paths were great ideas. I was just very disappionted with the way you I was restricted once on the ground. The freedom of movement within the bases wasn't there. The scripted dialogue and cutscenes seemed at odds with the rest of the game.
Title: Freelancer Demo
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 21, 2003, 06:21:21 PM
QuoteI was just very disappionted with the way you I was restricted once on the ground. The freedom of movement within the bases wasn't there. The scripted dialogue and cutscenes seemed at odds with the rest of the game.

All fair points, but I think you have to look at this game as a next-gen version of elite and frontier, not as an RPG.  Those space games were very limited once you stepped "outside of the cockpit", and so is Freelancer.  I'm sure the time will come when they can link both game elements (Star Wars Galaxies perhaps, after a few server upgrades and many expensive expansion packs :evil: ), but even the newest stuff like Eve Online doesn't allow much interaction on terra firma.

If you start comparing it to the vast free-form nature of RPGs like Deus Ex or the Baldurs Gate series then it will undoubtedly suffer from comparison.  :)