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Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 06, 2006, 12:11:29 PM
dMw run a Folding@Home team and I know they would appreciate your support.

If you've got a few mins, pop over to this (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2890) thread and why not download and install the F@H client to run in the background and use your unused CPU cycles for the benefit of medical research?

The dMw Folding Team is just outside the top 100 teams in the World and any extra horse power would be appreciated!!

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: kregoron on March 06, 2006, 05:36:33 PM
Nice ill switch my F@H to run for you instead :)
Title: Folding
Post by: Torir on March 06, 2006, 10:50:27 PM
Ah ha, so that's what the Dead Men Folding thing was all about, I just thought you were really bad poker players :D
Title: Folding
Post by: Bastet on March 06, 2006, 10:51:49 PM
Yeh i wonderd the same thing. I might try it later on.
Title: Folding
Post by: Sinap on March 06, 2006, 11:00:29 PM
Rofl, yeah, I dont quite get it :(
Title: Folding
Post by: Bob on March 07, 2006, 07:22:01 AM
Sounds interesting.

Have heard about a few similar things earlier (something about "discover inteligent life" or something), but never really gave it a try.  I might just give it a shot now - just to contribute some to dMw for hosting these nice forums for us :)
Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 07, 2006, 08:44:32 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Threbrilith@Mar 7 2006, 08:22 AM
Sounds interesting.

Have heard about a few similar things earlier (something about "discover inteligent life" or something), but never really gave it a try.
The 'search for intelligent life' is the SETI project (scanning the skies for looking for extra terrestrial intelligence) and this is also a distributed computing project, however Folding@Home is about medical research.

Put very simple: Most changes in our bodies involve proteins 'folding' or changing their molecular shape when they encounter certain stimuli or catalysts - different shapes enable different behaviours or changes to the body.  The F@H project is trying to understand 'how' proteins fold and more importantly why the occasionally 'misfold'.  It's the misfolds that tend to cause a lot of the medical problems and out of the research comes a better understanding of how to stop proteins misfolding, minimise the damage done by these changes or stop them altogether.  There's a short summary of Folding here (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2890) if you want to read a little bit more.

I have F@H running in the background all the time on my computers.  I hope this info helps and look forward to seeing you in the dMw F@H teamsheets :thumbsup:

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 08, 2006, 08:54:40 AM
So, which brave SoGers have already installed this and joined the team?  

Btw, installing it as a service using the console version means it runs quicker and you have no window to bother you :)

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: Othbarty on March 08, 2006, 09:47:05 AM
I have sucsessfully join team 33597 ;)

something to work on when idle :)
Title: Folding
Post by: Sinap on March 08, 2006, 10:21:20 AM
Il have a look when I get home, stupid school PC's :(
Title: Folding
Post by: Bob on March 08, 2006, 01:28:05 PM
As of now I'm folding for dMw 33597 :)

Btw, the name I fold under, is the nick I use outside WoW, which is Bofur!
Title: Folding
Post by: Neff on March 08, 2006, 02:52:55 PM
Bifur Bofur & bofur , read The hobbit i see bob?:D
Title: Folding
Post by: Bob on March 08, 2006, 04:00:43 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Neff@Mar 8 2006, 03:52 PM
Bifur Bofur & bofur , read The hobbit i see bob?:D
[post=115746]Quoted post[/post]
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Ofcours I've read The Hobbit Neff :D

And btw, it's Bifur, Bofur & Bombur, you schmuck :narnar:
Title: Folding
Post by: Neff on March 08, 2006, 06:59:12 PM
Its like 12 of them i didnt put them in the right order:P
Title: Folding
Post by: Bob on March 08, 2006, 07:05:17 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Neff@Mar 8 2006, 07:59 PM
Its like 12 of them i didnt put them in the right order:P
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Neff, you big tit - not only did you put them in the wrong order, but you mentioned the same hobbit twice :rolleyes:

EARTH TO NEFF!!!!! WAKE UP :roflmao:
Title: Folding
Post by: Neff on March 08, 2006, 10:38:56 PM
Arrrgh! Bifor bofur and Bombur :blink:
Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 13, 2006, 06:06:25 PM
Welcome to the Folding Team Othbarty :thumbsup:

Thanks for your first (of many) Wu!! :worship:

Anyone else joined yet?

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: kregoron on March 13, 2006, 06:47:32 PM
im folding :) but got a big WU :P
Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on April 12, 2006, 04:47:53 PM
Menedil is.
Othbarty is.
Teaelle is.
Chris_Ian is (whoever they are!)

If you're not already Folding for the team then come and join us.  

Instructions are here (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=12529).

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: Bob on April 12, 2006, 05:00:27 PM
I was folding for some time, but by some strange reason the program didn't seem to work too great on my laptop.  It used much more resources than it was supposed to do, leading to both overheating and lag when I was using other programs... :(
Title: Folding
Post by: Sinap on April 12, 2006, 05:04:30 PM
Same, I did a bit, but then it kept crashing my pc, lol.
Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on April 12, 2006, 05:32:40 PM
Wierd, I use it on my PCs at home and work (inc my gaming PC) and suffer none of the above!

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: Mazii on April 12, 2006, 06:09:19 PM
I have been Folding for 1½ year :)
Title: Folding
Post by: Marduk on April 13, 2006, 06:54:32 AM
QuoteWill F@H make my PC run more slowly?
No it will not. When your computer would otherwise be idle, the software grabs the surplus cpu cycles for the benefit of this research and processes some of the data. When your computer needs to do some work for you the F@H program immediately stops. The chances are that you you use only 10% of the processing power that is provided by your Pentium or Athlon powered computer. This means that 90% of the time that your PC is powered up your processor is doing absolutely nothing. By running the Folding@Home software on your PC you can effectively use 100% of the processors capability as it only uses computing cycles that are unused. You should not even notice that it is running. For example, you could run F@H and play CS simultaneously - you should not notice any difference in the speed of your machine! If you want to make absolutely sure, then just adjust the option to limit the processor useage to 90%, thus always leaving 10% in reserve.

so... i have been reading true this post a pretty fast and not really gone in to detail just yet, have to go to school soon, but can anyone here say that this program causes more lag then you normaly have at your computer?

i have a pretty good computer if i say so myself, so it might as well be used for "the greater good" when im not really using it all but i dont really want to play with a lot of lag to do do a microspopic bit of work for medical science
Title: Folding
Post by: kregoron on April 13, 2006, 09:57:43 AM
i dont have any lag whatsoever when runnig.. the program is designed to run at the lowest possible priority and pauses when you load for an example WoW.. and if you tab out and look at taskmanager you can see this..
and if you have problems with it still taking resources you can just pause it manually :)
Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on April 13, 2006, 10:00:08 AM
Ditto here, zero lag.  Tbh I have set some of my PCs to run at 100% max with F@H and I have also set some to run at 90% max (thus leaving a 10% buffer Just-In-Case™ and I have noticed any difference between them.

OTOH there are clearly some people who do have problems, but I am not convinced it is due to F@H, I reckon it is more to do with their specific software and system setup.  F@H runs as @lowest priority' on the CPU, so it shoud not affect *anything* at all.

The only thing that F@H does do is increase the temperature of your CPU as it is working at 100% all the time.  Some say that this causes your CPU to burn out early, but again i hav enever had this problem.  For the last 2 years I have had an Athlon XP1700 overclocked to 2.4GHz and runnign F@H at 100%.  The PC stays on 24/7, 365 days per year and is still going strong with no failures.  As 2 years is longer than most people hang on to their PC components anyhow I'd argue that it does no harm to yoru hardware at all.  Even on my heavily overclocked XP1700 rig, the temps for the CPU never go above about 50-55 AFAIAA and that's on a hot summer day!

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: Bob on April 13, 2006, 11:28:47 AM
I do have to say that I find it a bit strange that I did have some problems running the folding program.

My laptop is a Dell Inspiron XPS Gen 2 with 2.13 GHz pentium centrino and 2GB ram, so I really shouldn't have any problems.  I even tried to set F@H to fold at lower than 100% available CPU when running, but still I experienced lag and heating problems...

But that said, I really didn't put too much effort into finding out what the problem was.  If I get some spare time I might try to install it again and give it another try :)
Title: Folding
Post by: Akall on October 07, 2006, 09:10:31 PM
I'm a bit late I think...but I started my folding for dMw folding team :biggrin:
Title: Folding
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 07, 2006, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Akall;154907I'm a bit late I think...but I started my folding for dMw folding team :biggrin:
Woot!  Welcome to the dMw F@H team! :clap: :yahoo: :dmw:

TL.
Title: Folding
Post by: Gorion on October 07, 2006, 11:09:14 PM
gave it some thought, but with my current pc i really cant.. even running wow is some kind of weekly miracle atm,

just finished disassembling/reassembling the whole friggen pc to add a fan to the northbridge.. just to find out i cant remove the current heatsink :/ so i had to do some crazy stuff to get a small fan attached to it O.o
Title: Folding
Post by: Claw on October 07, 2006, 11:11:02 PM
can someone post me some links of how 2 and where 2 get it i have a server that would like to join dWm folding team :D and a laptop :D :D
Title: Folding
Post by: Gorion on October 07, 2006, 11:55:07 PM
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2727