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Forum Archive 2023 => Games of old that no longer float our boat........ => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Counter-Strike:Condition Zero => Topic started by: Boomycol on March 20, 2006, 09:14:52 PM

Title: Ban if you want
Post by: Boomycol on March 20, 2006, 09:14:52 PM
We just kicked N3c0 out of our clan , he got caught by HL guard using a low no recoil script, just though id let you know so you can ban the cheat!

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Bloody cheat!!
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: DaRkLiGhTeR on March 20, 2006, 09:29:32 PM
calm down boomy whats he said bout it?
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Post by: Hippy on March 20, 2006, 09:30:33 PM
lol, what can he say about it?
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Post by: Doris on March 20, 2006, 09:38:42 PM
Cheers for the heads up Boomy
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Post by: Arcticfire on March 20, 2006, 09:45:52 PM
i think im gonna delete some of mine....before i get caught :o

ohh i deleted so many...i got 2gb extra space now hehe :P
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: DuVeL on March 20, 2006, 10:37:37 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Arcticfire@Mar 20 2006, 11:45 PM
i think im gonna delete some of mine....before i get caught :o

ohh i deleted so many...i got 2gb extra space now hehe :P
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Ehrm, we take cheating pretty hard in account on our server and so.
We might joke sometimes about it but we do mean our stuff serious.

Thanks for the heads up Boomy (although I've allready read it on BoD).
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: IntitalD on March 21, 2006, 02:02:58 PM
i pld with he b4, and i killed him more than he killed me, and i dont really see what is the different normal and low recoil? so can u tell me where do u find out?
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: DuVeL on March 21, 2006, 02:16:29 PM
When shooting an AK for example, the more you shoot, the higher the gun goes. When aiming under someones neck in CS, after +/- 2-3 bullets the gun is aiming at the top of his head.
No recoil means he can keep the gun on one spot without having the problem of recoil. Therefor a hack. I suggest you to not try it and find out for yourself!!!
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 21, 2006, 02:44:58 PM
I don't think you answered the question he asked.  What he wanted to know was how a LOW recoil script differed from a NO recoil script.

TL.
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: DuVeL on March 21, 2006, 02:54:18 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by IntitalD@Mar 21 2006, 04:02 PM
what is the different normal and low recoil?
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Think I answerd correct though.  :unsure: Although his way of asking is weird most of the times aswell.
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 21, 2006, 04:28:59 PM
Well I think there was a bit more nuance in the question: either the question is wrong or I think you answered "What is a 'no recoil' script' rather then what he asked.  And don't ask me to answer, I know what a recoil script is but couldn't differentiation a 'low' one from any other type of recoil script.  If I could I would have just stated it.

TL.
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2006, 04:38:42 PM
The amount of recoil is defined by a variable in the config files. It is something like set it to 0 for no recoil, 1 for full recoil and an intermediate value for low recoil. The good thing about it is that it is so easy to detect so people get banned easily for using it.
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: IntitalD on March 21, 2006, 05:18:36 PM
but duvel i have see a ppl from static head, as second of ed, they was shooting from middle to long range, and they still kill people without stoping, map is infone is i spell wrong? and when i ask they, they was saying use mouse to control, so it maybe neco have better skill?
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: JB on March 21, 2006, 05:47:51 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by IntitalD@Mar 21 2006, 05:18 PM
but duvel i have see a ppl from static head, as second of ed, they was shooting from middle to long range, and they still kill people without stoping, map is infone is i spell wrong? and when i ask they, they was saying use mouse to control, so it maybe neco have better skill?
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Moving the mouse the opposite way to the recoil is perfectly normal and is a good skill to pick up, but having a script to do it for you is a different thing.

This wasn't anyones opinion of whether he was cheating or not, it was detcted by an anti cheat program looking for the known CS commands to produce the low recoil effect.


Incidentally it's called 'low' recoil as it's impossible to script to script a'no' recoil version due to the randomness built into CS.  'No' recoil is possible but not with plain old scripting.  (I think)   :)
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: IntitalD on March 21, 2006, 06:11:00 PM
now i understand neco is been banned from anti cheat program not  by just some people looking.
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Post by: MAD_ness on March 21, 2006, 06:29:38 PM
Thnx for the heads up Boomy ...




 :)
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: DuVeL on March 21, 2006, 06:47:50 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by IntitalD+Mar 21 2006, 08:11 PM-->
QUOTE(IntitalD @ Mar 21 2006, 08:11 PM)
now i understand neco is been banned from anti cheat program not  by just some people looking.
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People who play alot can tell if he was adjusting his recoil by the way JB mentioned. They (BoD and NT*) just watched him to see if he was doing that or not and when the anticheatprogram picked it up they were certain (some people find it cool to try and beat the anticheatprogram).
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: IntitalD on March 21, 2006, 07:10:09 PM
can i have the demo, i want give my clan leader and Doh member have a look?
because lots ppl play cs since cs 1.2. so they may tell is this cheat or skill
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: DuVeL on March 21, 2006, 07:17:04 PM
They closed the case allready on him and were sure about it because the HLguard picked it up (both on the BoDserver and the NT*server).
So definatly cheat, not skill.
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: nethany on March 21, 2006, 07:33:05 PM
hi chaps..  just like to make mention:-

1. both NT and BoD caught N3co independantly.. it wasnt till we checked the logs on the same morning that we banned the guys.

2. NT's ban was done via HLGuard.  BoD's was done by using a cvar checker - which looks for something that low recoil scripts use.{btw we caught another peep as well, but not a reg.}  

End result is correct and as he was picked up on 2 diff. servers over the course of a weekend.

Result for us = Perm ban.
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: MAD_ness on March 21, 2006, 07:45:27 PM
cheers Neth...thnx for nipping on and giving us the info ..
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: BLOOD_THIRSTY on March 21, 2006, 08:01:07 PM
Whats recoil ?

Hold fire and aim at the toes :D          Why anyone wants to cheat in a game is beyond me......

its more fun to master the skill , trying to line up the spray of bullits with a player.
Title: Ban if you want
Post by: Hippy on March 21, 2006, 08:07:23 PM
QuoteHold fire and aim at the toes

Hehe  :whistle: