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Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Dr Sadako on March 23, 2006, 06:02:52 AM
I have a
2500+ Barton
1 Gb Memory
Ati 9800Pro

I have been offered a ATI X800Pro to a good price. Do you think it would be ok run on that spec? Would the diffrerence be small? Would  it make any difference if I add another 512 MB of memory?
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: GhostMjr on March 23, 2006, 07:07:32 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Sadako@Mar 23 2006, 06:02 AM
I have a
2500+ Barton
1 Gb Memory
Ati 9800Pro

I have been offered a ATI X800Pro to a good price. Do you think it would be ok run on that spec? Would the diffrerence be small? Would it make any difference if I add another 512 MB of memory?
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U do have a 8x agp slot i presume. If not a 4x slot will limit the 8x device to run at the former speed.  I think like my 6800gt you will need a spare power lead like those that i put into hard drives.
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Dr Sadako on March 23, 2006, 07:27:26 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr@Mar 23 2006, 09:07 AM
U do have a 8x agp slot i presume. If not a 4x slot will limit the 8x device to run at the former speed. I think like my 6800gt you will need a spare power lead like those that i put into hard drives.
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8X - yup (1.5V only though)
powerlead - already have that on my 9800Pro
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 23, 2006, 07:32:41 AM
In performance terms yes it is a worthwhile upgrade Sadako, given a fast enough CPU it will probably come close to doubling your graphics power.  Given your XP2500 then you might be a little CPU bound in some games (HL2 in particular will get less benefit unless you really turn on AA & AF), but it should still allow you to turn up the bells and whistles a little more for most games.

There's an article here (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/05/vga_charts_vii/index.html) that will show you the difference between a X800 Pro and a 9800 Pro and it confirms the doubling of performance.   So the final question would be - how much has it been offered for?  If the price is right then it is probably still a godd upgrade.

TL.
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Dr Sadako on March 23, 2006, 07:50:08 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Mar 23 2006, 09:32 AM
In performance terms yes it is a worthwhile upgrade Sadako, given a fast enough CPU it will probably come close to doubling your graphics power. Given your XP2500 then you might be a little CPU bound in some games (HL2 in particular will get less benefit unless you really turn on AA & AF), but it should still allow you to turn up the bells and whistles a little more for most games.

There's an article here (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/05/vga_charts_vii/index.html) that will show you the difference between a X800 Pro and a 9800 Pro and it confirms the doubling of performance.  So the final question would be - how much has it been offered for? If the price is right then it is probably still a godd upgrade.

TL.
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1900 sek = 137.25 gbp with warranty left and clocked to XT (according to him)

thanks.
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 23, 2006, 08:46:03 AM
Seems cheaper than normal if it is in good condition.  As to the value?  Who knows.  Personally I am hanging on to my current 9800 Pro to move to an AMD new socket system in about 2 months time, but if you're not planning a total system upgrade then that graphics card might be a decent bet and at a later date you can always add a higher spec CPU for not a lot.

TL.
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Jamoe on March 23, 2006, 10:14:46 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Sadako@Mar 23 2006, 07:50 AM
1900 sek = 137.25 gbp with warranty left and clocked to XT (according to him)

thanks.
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doesnt clocking invalidate warrenty? or is there no way they woud know?
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Dingo on March 23, 2006, 09:51:59 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Sadako@Mar 23 2006, 07:50 AM
1900 sek = 137.25 gbp with warranty left and clocked to XT (according to him)

thanks.
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Is that a vivo? and what make is the card?. Has he added a better cooler than the stock one and can he show you some benchmarks for overclocking performance?. Is there a games bundle with that (ie) oem or retail version.

Currently on several secondhand forums X800Pro's (AGP-vivo) can be had for around the £120 mark delivered (in the UK) but without the warranty whilst 6800Ultras are going for around £130-140.
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Dr Sadako on March 23, 2006, 10:14:01 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dingo@Mar 23 2006, 11:51 PM
Is that a vivo? and what make is the card?. Has he added a better cooler than the stock one and can he show you some benchmarks for overclocking performance?. Is there a games bundle with that (ie) oem or retail version.

Currently on several secondhand forums X800Pro's (AGP-vivo) can be had for around the £120 mark delivered (in the UK) but without the warranty whilst 6800Ultras are going for around £130-140.
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It is and X800 Pro (256 MB) that has a flashed bios so it is an X800 XT platinum edition. Zalman VF700Cu fan on it.
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Dingo on March 23, 2006, 10:18:25 PM
Got a Leadtek Extreme Edition 6600GT - runs at 550/1120 instead of the standard 500/1000. I've clocked it up to 580/1305 on stock cooling.
Comes boxed with everything.

Also got a Sapphire X800XT Platinum Edition - extremely rare card, similar performance/bit better than a 6800Ultra. Comes with VIVO cables and DVI converter.

Looking for £70inc for the 6600GT and £90inc for the X800XT PE.


From forum post at 18.07 this evening
Title: Tech advice please
Post by: Dingo on March 23, 2006, 10:40:46 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Sadako@Mar 23 2006, 06:02 AM
I have a
2500+ Barton
1 Gb Memory
Ati 9800Pro

I have been offered a ATI X800Pro to a good price. Do you think it would be ok run on that spec? Would the diffrerence be small? Would it make any difference if I add another 512 MB of memory?
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You may find, dependant on mobo, that the additional 512mb of memory reduces your ddr 200Mhz to 166Mhz with the three sticks....more memory but slower speed!! :blink:  :)