Dead Men Walking

Forum Archive 2023 => Classy Questions => World of Warcraft - Dead Men Raiding => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Ranged DPS => Topic started by: Rutski on May 05, 2006, 12:45:06 AM

Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Rutski on May 05, 2006, 12:45:06 AM
A few classes have had their re-vamp already...  and they all seem to have exciting new features...

But, sadly, Blizz has offered no such excitement in the upcoming mage revamp.

At first glance the talent tree looks quite similar to now with few changes...

tree (http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?k)

I noticed evocation missing and thought   wth?....   :ranting:

wasn't until i read the patch notes and decided not to delete my char altogether   8)

notes (http://pc.ign.com/articles/704/704665p1.html)

All in all... few changes... couple more talent points to play with  possibly some reduced threat (might be handy)

lemme know what ur plans are mages...  

i'm thinking along the lines of.. http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RA0tzRueoZiV0uMb (http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RA0tzRueoZiV0uMb)

p.s.  prob shoulda posted on mage forum i know  :P
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Rutski on May 05, 2006, 01:07:06 AM
had another little play...  :unsure:

option2 (http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RA0gtrzcZZiV0uMho)

sacrifice AP for iceblock?...
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: JanuZ on May 05, 2006, 12:05:35 PM
The reason the mage is now after all the other classes is because they have a very balanced talent tree and don't need any huge changes like the druid, pally and hunter.

I would get the Ice block, Kreuz dies twice as much now that he dropped the Ice block :D. Also i am not sure how much i would trust that article since i am pretty sure the mage review was pushed to 1.12 and was supposed to come at the same time as the shaman review.

I would say Mage and Rogue had the most balanced talent trees at release and need the least changes. What i think shows a balanced talent tree is the fact that you can't choose everything you want and most of the changes to the mage tree seem to make you able to make those choices in an easier way.
Ask a rogue what talent tree changes he wants, he will either tell you that he wants the rogue to be overpowered or he wants some minor changes like make the improved poisons a little better, fix this bug or that bug. I saw a discussion on either this forum or the aszune forums about cold blood having the possibility to miss, most people were just pissed that the talent could miss but it never said in the talent had 100% hit just 100% crit. I must disagree with this since if it misses it isn't a 100% crit and that is why it should also be 100% hit.

QuoteA few classes have had their re-vamp already... and they all seem to have exciting new features...

i guess you didn't read the paladin or test forums when the paladins got their revamp since the paladin was basicly nerfed in their revamp to get more stable low DPS instead of spiking low DPS. And you will not see many good paladins that aren't in a raiding guild since only the Holy tree is any good and they basicly ruined the retribution tree and the protection tree that was ruined was made marginally better.
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Vargen on May 05, 2006, 12:17:10 PM
At least you don't look like moonkin, or like it became after last patch, oomkin :P
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: kregoron on May 05, 2006, 01:10:07 PM
well i just made a very quick build.. as i love ice barrier and iceblok those were the spell i mainly went for
fast build (http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RhxxxMZZiVcuMusk)
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Snowstormer on May 05, 2006, 04:56:10 PM
This sucks..you can either chooce to have 10% more mana, Arcane power, or iceblock..or you can chooce to have 5% more crit..damnit, its hard to chooce anything. Talents kinda fecked up imo
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Gorion on May 05, 2006, 05:47:40 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Snowstormer@May 5 2006, 04:56 PM
This sucks..you can either chooce to have 10% more mana, Arcane power, or iceblock..or you can chooce to have 5% more crit..damnit, its hard to chooce anything. Talents kinda fecked up imo
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so? its the same thing for the other classes.. its about time it happens to you !

ide love to have both prot and the good arms stuff too.. but i cant i have to choose.. so now so have you :P
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Snowstormer on May 05, 2006, 08:36:41 PM
Exept you're not ment to do DPS, even if you try :P
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Gorion on May 06, 2006, 12:22:33 PM
you wanna really try me m8?

i used to kill pallys once, even when they healed/shielded. ofc i was cookie cutter with a bit of modifications..

mages are a bit tricky, but if you land a charge and crit an ms theyre 75% dead already...
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Snowstormer on May 06, 2006, 12:34:15 PM
If you really wanna start talking about pvp, we can..I have lots of expertise in that subject :P
Title: Not over-thrilled
Post by: Gorion on May 06, 2006, 12:35:47 PM
ime not talking bout pvp but duels :P

anyway this is oftopic!