Dead Men Walking

Forum Archive 2023 => World of Warcraft - Dead Men Raiding => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Professions => Topic started by: Asmoden on May 14, 2006, 05:01:38 PM

Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Asmoden on May 14, 2006, 05:01:38 PM
I just wanted people (and TL) to know, that I have a gnomish engineering skill of 315 i am offering up my services.

Here is a complete list of all engineering recipies: List (http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering)
With the exception of anything Goblin Engineering, i can make almost everything.
I am still missing recipy for:
Ultra-Flash Shadow Reflector (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=37951)
Force Reactive Disk (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=39944)
Core Marksman Rifle (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=36517)
Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=37276)
I you fall over any of these, i will be happy to take them off your hand ;p

I am also able to make Rocket launchers and rockets for them. So if you want to make a party, just call ;p
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Bastet on May 15, 2006, 08:00:15 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Asmoden@May 14 2006, 06:01 PM
that I have a gnomish engineering skill of 315 i am offering up my services.
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With the exception of anything Gnomish Engineering, i can make almost
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Typo?
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Asmoden on May 15, 2006, 10:02:53 AM
argh my TANGOing TANGO  :ranting:  I hate when the TANGO TANGO's!!!..

But yes Bastet, that will be a typo  <_<

I have Gnome Engineering, and i am unable to make any >> GOBLIN << Engineering. Thankyou  :dummy:


btw, i find it very annoying that i cant edit my posts if i made them more than like 5 minutes ago... why is that?
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Bastet on May 15, 2006, 10:07:07 AM
i can, sorted :P
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Asmoden on May 15, 2006, 10:12:09 AM
I dont like you! No one likes a cheat!....grrr...grumble..


EDIT: oh, and ty ;p
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: TeaLeaf on May 15, 2006, 02:56:32 PM
The 5 minute delay is to stop people editing their posts to 'amend history' to suit their own preferred version.

TL.
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Alaha on August 19, 2006, 05:15:37 PM
hi there, i would like to have one of those scopes
QuoteBiznicks 247x128 Accurascope (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=37276)
but the problem is 2x lavacore.
i talked to Teaelle about the lava cores.
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Mazii on August 19, 2006, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: Alaha;144131hi there, i would like to have one of those scopes
 
but the problem is 2x lavacore.
i talked to Teaelle about the lava cores.

He still need that one :)
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Spi on August 20, 2006, 04:18:12 AM
I can make the shadow reflectors, and I lost the roll for the rifle and shield lol.
 
The scope is a waste of an enchant, in my personal opinion, sniper scope is superior, unless you dont use your ranged as your main attack.
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: TeaLeaf on June 30, 2007, 08:53:26 AM
Quote from: Spi;144212I can make the shadow reflectors, and I lost the roll for the rifle and shield lol.
 
The scope is a waste of an enchant, in my personal opinion, sniper scope is superior, unless you dont use your ranged as your main attack.
I happen to be getting a Biznicks Scope for my hunter and was looking for someone who could make them who might be online.  I'm kind of wondering if I missed something monmumental in assessing the scope as best for my weapon or if Spi was on a total fruitcake of a planet the day he wrote this comment?

My hunter is not hit capped, therefore increased +hit has a direct increase on my damage.

Yes I could go for a +damage scope (let's assume +12) scope as suggested by Spi, but put simplisitically I would be getting about a third or less of the increased DPS that the +hit scope would have given me.

Or I could go for the +28 crit rating scope but that again gives less then the +hit.  Further, as I believe crits are rolled before the miss roll any miss will reduce your +crit benefit.

So why on earth did Spi think a +damage is better than a +hit scope?  The only circumstances I think where it might be better are if you are hit capped and I do not believe there are many people who are!  Or did I miss something?

TL.
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Lucian on June 30, 2007, 08:57:28 AM
TL - best thing you can get for +hit is the desolation set - two pieces gives a +35 bonus (bloody huge increase)...
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: TeaLeaf on June 30, 2007, 09:14:32 AM
Yep, that may well be acquired.  For the moment my +hit rating is 70 (4.44%), so as the base miss against an even level opponent is 5.6% (add +1% miss for every level higher, so 8.6% miss for lvl 73 mob) then +hit seems to work for me.

Hit Rating - Converts to hit at 15.8:1, so when I reach 136 hit rating I will be hit capped.  My current 70, plus 30 from the planned scope, plus 35 from the 2 piece desolation sets would seem to be an ideal combination provising me with 135 hit rating.

I think Spi may have meant that "it would be pointless adding more +hit if you are already +hit capped", but that's not quite what he said.

TL.
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Sandrion on June 30, 2007, 10:11:51 AM
Physical miss chance is a lot lower vs mobs that are 3 levels higher then then spell miss chance. For physical it's 5% + ((5 * 0.04%) * lvldiff); so 5.6% base miss chance vs a level 73 mob. For spells the base miss chance is 17% vs a level 73 mob. (Arcane shot may be an exception, since it does spell damage instead of physical, but I'm by no means sure about that.)
 
5.6% isn't very hard to get. You'll easily hit the cap with an item or three and a trinket.
 
Additionally hunters use a one roll system (hit table) to determain if something is a miss, hit or crit instead of two rolls like casters do (first one for miss/hit and afterwards one for normal hit/crit). Consequently +hit doesn't affect your crit chance as a Hunter, but as a caster it does. (Which is why +hit > +crit for casters.)
 
Overall the +damage scope is probably superior to the +hit one. Unless you haven't reached the +hit cap yet ofcourse, which should be your first priority.
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: TeaLeaf on June 30, 2007, 10:26:32 AM
Quote from: Sandrion;1958985.6% isn't very hard to get. You'll easily hit the cap with an item or three and a trinket.
I think you'll find the 5.6% is base against equal level mob, not against L73 (as explained in my post above).  So it is 8.6% or 136 HR that is the goal not a lowly 5.6%.  At least this is what Wowwiki and Elitist Jerks currently say.  Do you have a link to other info sites showing 5.6% against a L73 mob?

TL.
Title: Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!
Post by: Sandrion on July 01, 2007, 09:11:54 AM
From http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Weapon_Skill:
Quote from: wowwikiA player's chance to miss in PVE is also greatly affected by difference in mobs' defense and the player's attack rating.
  • If the monster's defense is 1 to 10 points greater than your weapon skill, you suffer 0.1% chance to miss per point.
  • If the difference is more than 10, the penalty is doubled to 0.2% per point

(The last two links on this page refer to stickies on the Blizz boards which also mention a base miss chance of 5.6% vs level 63 bosses).
 
And from http://www.wowwiki.com/Miss:
Quote from: wowwikiMiss chance against a low-level mob is a percentage of normal equal to the mob’s level divided by 10. When a player or other mob attacks a mob, the change in miss chance is 0.2% per rating difference if that rating difference is 11 or more. If the rating difference is 10 or less then the change in miss chance is 0.1% per point. If the attacker and defender have the same ratings then of course the total miss chance will be 5%.

I couldn't find any article that clearly states the miss chance vs level 73 bosses. Half of the articles say 5.6% the other half 8.6%, but none give an explaination. If you have a link to an article that explains this, would you mind posting a link to it, I'm starting to doubt my own words :unsure: .