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Forum Archive 2023 => Classy Questions => World of Warcraft - Dead Men Raiding => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Ranged DPS => Topic started by: Tinilgawiel on June 08, 2006, 01:05:21 PM

Title: Talent Tree
Post by: Tinilgawiel on June 08, 2006, 01:05:21 PM
Whats the best talentree for Marksman Hunter (Trueshot Aura) and max crit?

Look at my profile. I dunno what to do though..

How about this?

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/t...350200510320150 (http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/hunter/talents.html?0000000000000000051510305100003350200510320150)

I dunno. I want max crit. but trueshot aura is nice tho.
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: sitha on June 08, 2006, 01:40:15 PM
I'm no expert on hunters, but from what I understand you need a hell of a lot of agility from items before Lightning Reflexes give you more dps then trueshot aura and ranged weapon spec.

If you look at the spec my hunter has you can see what I would recommend for a blue-equipped hunter. But as I said, I'm no expert on the area.
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: ShadowElf on June 08, 2006, 11:30:16 PM
with that spec you are more in melee then a warrior  :narnar:

thats not true though but its more like a melee build you have there.

for PvP its great but not for PvE, you are more ranged then melee there.
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: ShadowElf on June 08, 2006, 11:37:56 PM
this is what i use :)

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/t...300220500000000 (http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/hunter/talents.html?5000000000000000250510305130513300220500000000)
 :toast:

keep it a secret! :norty:
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: ratatosk on June 09, 2006, 08:08:34 AM
First of all If u want Max Crit wy havent u chosed 3 points in Killer instinct? :blink:

Second its right that if u dont have Agility over 330 then the TSA gives u more AP then LR! (1 Agi = 2 AP)-->333 Agix0.15 = ~50 Agi so it equal to TSA

But the other hand Agility gives u higher crit% TSA wont give U that!

Iam considering Respeccing to Survival instead of MM but i have 450+ Agi now so that would benefit me, on the other hand TSA benefits raid so its a hard decision! :whistle:

I dont know ur gear and i dont have the time to check it but I think u can respec for a better Crit build then the one u have!

Best regards Rata 8)
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: Bastet on June 09, 2006, 09:22:42 AM
aint TSA rank 2 something like 100 AP? (which i seam to recall from raids anyways)
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: ratatosk on June 09, 2006, 09:40:35 AM
U are so right Bastet! TSA is 100 AP and thats equal to 50 Agi! So therefor if u get more then 50 Agi from LR then u get more then 100 AP!
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: sitha on June 09, 2006, 09:46:21 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by ratatosk@Jun 9 2006, 10:40 AM
U are so right Bastet! TSA is 100 AP and thats equal to 50 Agi! So therefor if u get more then 50 Agi from LR then u get more then 100 AP!
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But if you go that far down in survival you will also miss ranged weapon spec which is 5% more damage.

Edit: And you will just be able to get one point in barrage.
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: Tinilgawiel on June 09, 2006, 09:10:07 PM
Marvelous easy decision :P bah. haha. Discuss some more. interesting how TA compares to AGI build.
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: DuVeL on June 09, 2006, 09:41:14 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ratatosk@Jun 9 2006, 10:40 AM
U are so right Bastet! TSA is 100 AP and thats equal to 50 Agi! So therefor if u get more then 50 Agi from LR then u get more then 100 AP!
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Sorry to type something here but this looks like math :blink:
 :learn:

So, do you guys discuss the meaning of wife up here aswell? Ehrm...life...
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: Bob on June 10, 2006, 01:12:27 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by DuVeL@Jun 9 2006, 10:41 PM
So, do you guys discuss the meaning of wife up here aswell? Ehrm...life...
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That's in the Off-Topic forum :P
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: Gorion on June 10, 2006, 01:59:03 PM
think ime going with this spec,

or remove 3 from imp hunters mark and put them in surefooted, but i doubt it
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: Sandrion on July 01, 2006, 10:16:06 AM
If a hunter has more then 333 AGI and +0.92% crit a 30s/21mm build will yield more DPS with auto-shot then any other build. (don't feel like posting the match, but I did calculate it ;) ).

However, 'ranged weapons specialication' also influences the damage of some of your shots (like multi-shot and aimed-shot). Because of this you will need an enormous amount of agility to compensate for that. Even without taking 'barrage' into account and considering the fact that true-shot aura can be leeched.

I don't think it's possible to attain a higher amount of DPS with a 30s/21mm spec with the gear that is currently in the game. But if you got a very little amount of int (or run out of mana very fast), it might be worth considering.
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: DonnieKingo on July 13, 2006, 07:52:57 AM
Hmmm, dont know what happend to my profile....but here it is again. :)
 
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1109706 (http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1109706)
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: ratatosk on July 13, 2006, 09:09:23 AM
i can Agree with Sandrion on some cases, But considering the increased Critical hit % from survival spec i think that the Amount of dmg that comes out from Survival will be greater! If u go Survival u get +3% crit from killer instinct, and atleast 1% from the extra agility even more, dont really know the calc behind it:blush2: but in combat its the critdmg that kills and boost ur DPS.
 
So a sum up from survbuild would be:
 
* Atleast 4% extra crit
* Armor, Dodge and parry bounuses from the agility
 
I am nowadays Survival specced and i must say that my dmg and dps increased alot and my PvP got a real boost. But thats my 2cents:flirty:
 
Plz reflect and discuss
 
Best regards Rata
Title: Talent Tree
Post by: Tanales on July 22, 2006, 03:21:47 PM
Have a look at the Formulas and Game Mechanics category of http://www.wowwiki.com/ (http://www.wowwiki.com/)
if you want all the calculations concerning stats.

Tan.