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Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: smite on March 19, 2003, 07:22:44 AM
What should i be looking for guys when i go for ADSL (as in modems).
Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 19, 2003, 07:59:08 AM
Go for a adsl router - they generally have less latency in them....a quick browse of adslguide will confirm this for you Smite.  When I was mistaken told I could have ADSL ( :x ) I had decided to go for the ASUS AAM6000EV from Solwise.

TL.  8)
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: Gandalf on March 19, 2003, 02:02:30 PM
I have this...

http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm#SAR715 (http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm#SAR715)

works great, easy to use and has a fairly competent port blocking firewall.

And it also works with on-line games :) I'd tried two other routers before, and CS never worked. They were the vigor USB2200 (steer clear of this POS) and a 3com 612, both made CS lockup in seconds.

The 715 has been fantastic, just one thing. Don't use the 'get new servers' in CS as it will overload the router with UDP traffic and the router will lockup. This is documented in their forum.
Title: Re: Adsl modem or router
Post by: SecretSquirrel on March 19, 2003, 02:52:32 PM
QuoteWhat should i be looking for guys when i go for ADSL (as in modems).
Any help would be appreciated.

Scuze my ignorance...but whats the diff between the modem vs Router

and whats the ups/downs of either??

This is a fact finding mission for when my exchange is enabled in 3 years :(
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on March 19, 2003, 03:59:57 PM
I got my router/switch from Broadband Buyer (http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/) I think they are based in Milton Keynes and seem to carry a wide variety of products for adsl and cable (no I don't work there) The cable modem was provided by ntl and this box enables me to connect all my pcs to the internet via the one modem. There is plenty of info on the site in their guides/forum section.
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: marsvolta on March 19, 2003, 04:40:25 PM
help me get a better connection than 44 kps  8) my average ping is about 400
Title: Re: Adsl modem or router
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 19, 2003, 05:21:50 PM
Quote
QuoteWhat should i be looking for guys when i go for ADSL (as in modems).
Any help would be appreciated.

Scuze my ignorance...but whats the diff between the modem vs Router

and whats the ups/downs of either??

This is a fact finding mission for when my exchange is enabled in 3 years :([/b]
As it is a fact finding mission you are after then go and have a look on //www.solwise.co.uk  You should find plenty of info on whata router does that a modem does not.......VPN, pass-though (which is what CS needs), firewall etc etc.

TL.  8)
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: smite on March 19, 2003, 07:50:10 PM
Cheers all
i havnt had chance to get on until now. thx for replies
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: Gone_Away on March 20, 2003, 02:02:25 PM
I use the Speedtouch 510v4

Modem/4 port router combo. Has it's own h/w firewall built in.

works a treat. The GUI isn't the best but you can telnet and set things up from there.
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 20, 2003, 05:49:23 PM
QuoteI have this...

http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm#SAR715 (http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm#SAR715)

works great, easy to use and has a fairly competent port blocking firewall.

And it also works with on-line games :) I'd tried two other routers before, and CS never worked. They were the vigor USB2200 (steer clear of this POS) and a 3com 612, both made CS lockup in seconds.

The 715 has been fantastic, just one thing. Don't use the 'get new servers' in CS as it will overload the router with UDP traffic and the router will lockup. This is documented in their forum.

The ASUS AAM6000EV works for CS too  :D Unfortunately not on my narrowband telephone line though  :(

TL.  8)
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: DarkAngel on March 20, 2003, 10:08:26 PM
Got mine imported from us but as im too lazy to go down stairs to look at it ill leave it at that :) Umm how much do you wanna spend??
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: albert on March 27, 2003, 03:02:02 PM
I have an alcatel Speedtouch 560 Wireless router. It has a built in firewall, DNS, DHCP servers, one 10BaseT port to connect to a hub or switch and also an internal wireless access point so you can surf from the back garden  :D .

Doorman was asking me about routers recently and I recommended him a NetGear router whihc was about £80 with everything mine has except wireless, plus it also has a printer port so you can give you pritner an IP address and share it on the LAN.

You don't really need to be spending over £150 for a good router these days with integrated modem and all the standard servers. If its DSL you have then yo ucan either do it sheap and just get a modem but as TL rightly points out having the extra features of a router with the firewall etc.. makes a big difference on speed and flexibility.

//www.dslguide.co.uk
//www.dslsource.co.uk
are both good sites for hardware and my router is now £159, half the price I paid for it  :D
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: tugs on March 30, 2003, 09:03:08 AM
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the vigor USB2200 (steer clear of this POS) and a 3com 612, both made CS lockup in seconds.
--Interesting. I run the Draytek Vigor2600 and it's great - no issues. I know a while back there were some oddities with CS, but they were actually fixed pretty quickly - I was following a couple of friends with the USB2200 and they were quite happy.

Quote
The 715 has been fantastic, just one thing. Don't use the 'get new servers' in CS as it will overload the router with UDP traffic and the router will lockup. This is documented in their forum.
--Yeah, you're right - a router locking up when you try and put a load of traffic through it is far preferable. How long has this 'feature' been known, and when is it being fixed?

:lol:
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: SLoWHaND on March 30, 2003, 10:06:39 AM
Quote
 I'd tried two other routers before, and CS never worked. They were the vigor USB2200 (steer clear of this POS)


Well they musta sorted the issue out somewhere along the the line I have just bought the USB vigor jobby and it works a treat on everything

SLoWHaND
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: smite on March 30, 2003, 03:32:49 PM
So which one then :wink:

Thx for the replies guys im gona look into one nearer the time i need it.

Bear in mind that i aint clever so it needs to be dumbass free :puppydogeyes:
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 30, 2003, 05:30:54 PM
QuoteSo which one then :wink:
ANSWER:  It doesn't matter which one, so long as anothe rclan member already owns the sma emodel you'll always have someone to call when it goes gorribly wrong  :thumbsup:

TL.  8)
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2003, 05:48:58 PM
QuoteANSWER: It doesn't matter which one, so long as anothe rclan member already owns the sma emodel you'll always have someone to call when it goes gorribly wrong :thumbsup:

TL. 8)
a.k.a. Sheepy ?????
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: TeaLeaf on March 30, 2003, 07:11:36 PM
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
Sorry 'bout the spelling.......I was typing on my Dad's split keyboard - as you can see, I am not used to it  8O

TL.  8)
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: sheepy on March 30, 2003, 07:34:40 PM
i think u should use it more often as u make far more sense like that

what about me having things going horribly wrong.....my modem has never gone wrong yet, but theres not much u can do with a 56k
Title: Adsl modem or router
Post by: smite on April 07, 2003, 10:55:38 PM
Eclipse have sorted out a date for me of the 16th of June so it looks like im gona need to make a decision on a modem/router.

I agree with TL im going to go with the saem one as Gandy then if it balls up its his fault :D  :D  Or he could help me out on setting it up.


Oh forgot this little bit....Because i am not out of my 12 month contract with BT for ISDN they want to make me pay an additional charge of £90 on top of the setup fee of £55 just for going from a BT product to..........A BT product...bstrds.
Things u have to pay to watch video Pr0n.