Dead Men Walking

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Title: i'm leaving
Post by: Paximperiali on August 01, 2006, 07:22:52 PM
Italian :
Ciao. Come ho detto ieri agli ufficiali del RG2 ho  deciso di lasciare i SoG per entrare nei
        Righteous RG2 per il periodo di prova(circa 1-2  settimane di raid) . Ho preso questa decisone non perchè sono un "lootwhore", (in quanto se fossi stato tale avrei fatto subito  richiesta per il nostro RG1 quando c'erano posti liberi) ma perchè voglio riuscire a  provare  tutti i contenuti del gioco prima dell'espansione e soprattutto mettermi alla prova  con me stesso per vedere se riesco ad avere il lvl di capacità di gioco richiesto. Ho fatto una  raid di prova a naxx e sono rimasto colpito dalla loro impegno nel gioco (15 wipe al primo boss  di naxx e nessuno che si lamentava con il risultato che prima della fine del raid siamo  riusciti ad ucciderlo per la prima volta) mentre ieri a BWL con il notro rg2 dopo 2 wipe c'era gente  che lasciava il raid. Nel caso di risposta negativa dopo il
    periodo di prova vorrei rifare il normale Apply per  i Sog ( sempre nel caso ci siano ancora posti liberi). Spero che questa mia uscita non porti la  perdita di tutti gli amici che ho nei SoG, anche se ho un nome diverso sopra la testa sarò  sempre io e sarò sempre disponibile per un run mattutino e per una quest. Auguro a tutti buona  fortuna e progressi veloci nelle istanze. Rigranzio tutti gli ufficiali (che  hanno compiuto al meglio il loro lavoro),  e i compagni di gilda..

English:

Hi guys.

As I said yesterday to the RG2 officers, I have decided to leave SoG to join Righteous RG2 for a trial period of about 1-2 weeks. I have taken this decision, not because I am a "lootwhore", (as if I was, I would have applied to join SoG RG1 when there were empty spaces) but because I would like to try all the game content before the expansion comes out, and most of all, to prove to myself if I have the skills required.

I went to a trial raid at Naxx, and I have been impressed by the energy and dedication they put in the game. 15 wipes at the first Naxx boss and not one person that whined of the poor results. At the end of the raid, we managed to kill him for the first time. In comparison, at yesterday's BWL with our RG2, there were people leaving the raid after only 2 wipes. In case of a negative reply after the trial period, I would like to apply to join SoG again through the normal application (always if there are empty spaces).

I hope that this does not mean I'm losing all the friends I have in SoG. Even if I have a different name over my head, I am still me, and will  always be available for a morning run or for a quest. I wish you all good luck and hope you make good progress in all instances.

Thanks to all the officials (who have done a great job), and all guildies.


Pax

PS: tnx Goreandor for the translation ita>eng
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Post by: Sandrion on August 01, 2006, 07:26:23 PM
Sorry to see you go Pax. I guess we have to find us another tank.
Anyway good luck with Righteous, I hope it works out for you :byebye: .
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Post by: Bastet on August 01, 2006, 07:28:24 PM
i heard better excuses, but anyway, if you leave, fat chance you can ever get back in.
 
in 1 word:
Weak :thumbsdown:
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Post by: Nefrion on August 01, 2006, 07:29:45 PM
GL in the future m8
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Post by: Keltor on August 01, 2006, 07:30:33 PM
losing a tank as good as u, we're screwed..
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Post by: Odesa on August 01, 2006, 07:35:23 PM
GL Pax. Hope you find what you're looking for.
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Post by: Gorion on August 01, 2006, 07:59:38 PM
well you already know my comments m8 so not posting anything here :P

well anyways gl and hf, slap a /w sometime :P
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Post by: Menedil on August 01, 2006, 08:51:23 PM
ok bye
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Post by: jantore on August 01, 2006, 08:56:46 PM
I don't like it pax
 
RG2 needs u since u are MT1. And the thing about ppl leaving after 2 whipes is not good. I do know what u are thinking about but still.
 
Plz reconsider and stay in SoG
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Post by: Bob on August 01, 2006, 08:57:19 PM
Didn't really get to know Pax, so I'm not going to say anything about him as a person or about his skills, but it's always sad to see guildies leave.  And perhaps even more sad since he is leaving for another guild.

How good the reason for his own sake is, I'm not gonna debate around, but what he said about the current RG2 "focus" problem ain't good.
Quote from: PaximperialiI have been impressed by the energy and dedication they put in the game. 15 wipes at the first Naxx boss and not one person that whined of the poor results. At the end of the raid, we managed to kill him for the first time. In comparison, at yesterday's BWL with our RG2, there were people leaving the raid after only 2 wipes.
I saw somebody else mention the lack of focus, people going afk and so on, so that I take as the truth.
The attitude/behavior that is described here is not good, and I think all RG2 members should think about it (actually us RG1 members could give it some thought as well <_<), and I'm saying all here, cause I don't know anything about who it was that were slacking and who it was that were doing their job.

If you plan to succeed in BWL, you need to work together.  There are NO reason why anyone should need to go AFK for anymore than a 1 minute bio.  It's only when you get as far as NEfarion that you can afford to take some "longer" breaks, since it takes him 15 minutes to respawn betweeb each try.  Untill than: stay with your keyboard, listen to the RLs/Marshalls and do you job and enjoy the whiping and the following repair bills

Than you will make it :rockon:
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Post by: Shadowsong on August 01, 2006, 09:25:05 PM
QuoteThere are NO reason why anyone should need to go AFK for anymore than a 1 minute bio.

Ehm...in my case, it already takes like 15-20sec to get to the toilet and same amount to get back. Don't know how fast you can pee, but I can't do it in like 5 seconds:tongue:
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Post by: Gorion on August 01, 2006, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: ShadowsongEhm...in my case, it already takes like 15-20sec to get to the toilet and same amount to get back. Don't know how fast you can pee, but I can't do it in like 5 seconds:tongue:

if i can do all that in 30-45 sec so can you..

if need be Run! or pee in a bottle
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Post by: Knabbel on August 01, 2006, 10:24:08 PM
Pax, with whom I will be doing dps on the adds at Golemagg now that you are leaving?
 
I hope that you get what you wish for.......
 
Greets,
 
D.
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Post by: Deadlyspirit on August 02, 2006, 12:09:28 AM
Sry to hear pax. Been playing with you for some time now and I must say you have improved from the day you joined to now.

#10 Bob I totaly agree. And IMO you shoud be able to stay at your keyboard from 19.15-00.00 with maybe 2x 2 min break.
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Post by: Greatdanes on August 02, 2006, 12:28:43 AM
I am really sad to hear this Pax but GL:byebye:
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Post by: Claw on August 02, 2006, 12:32:35 AM
:byebye::byebye:

well now i need to find a new tank to follow :( :( verry sorry to hear that your leaving,

but one thing that i don´t like is leaving to an other guild and if that dossent work out then go back to your old guild. its like stabbing a knife in our backs..
thats the way i feal.. but your dessision not mine..

GL HF

//claw
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Post by: Neff on August 02, 2006, 12:51:01 AM
You left because you felt you didnt progress fast enough, thats what im hearing.

Didnt know you,so just bye.
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Post by: Voretex on August 02, 2006, 01:09:01 AM
Cya dude and GL in righteous, some are cunts, most are alright (despite what most of u think :D)

Just watch out for the ass hats among them, most are in RG2 though
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Post by: Voretex on August 02, 2006, 01:13:17 AM
Neffles i can understand him in a way, there are some people in RG1 who i think feel the same way as him, pax seems to wantto be a more dedicated raider than the rest of RG2, or the majority.  

Dont criticise his decision to goto Righteous for more focused raiding.

However feel free to flame him for getting fully kitted up by guild bank etc with FR gear, all the other gear then leaving :D
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Post by: Adularena on August 02, 2006, 05:00:54 AM
I blame him for being Extremely beautiful ballet dancer!
 
and for getting to say that "he liked the no whining after 15 whipes and then we defeated Naxx jr." - He was a RG2 raider in a raidgrp with a desent pace trough the instances, and now he is in wherever-he-is. I think it has more to do with the gear and guildbank support that made him attractive then actual experience etc?
 
Think of all the things you were to the other guildies and especially the ppl in RG2, you were more than a spotfiller in the raid. Now you are just a spotfiller in the raid.
 
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OH! I can see more reasons for taking a minute to washing one`s hands after bio than I see reasons to play wow with weewee on your fingers
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Post by: Bob on August 02, 2006, 07:42:27 AM
Quote from: AdularenaOH! I can see more reasons for taking a minute to washing one`s hands after bio than I see reasons to play wow with weewee on your fingers
Good point Addy, I'll give you an extra minute for that one :happy:

But my point was: you shouldn't have the need for many long periods of AFK during a raid.  When I prepare for a raid, it's not only repairing my gear and buy all the reagents I need - I also fill up a bottle of water, get some snacks if I need that, and I also take a bio before the raid.  That way I can sit by the computer from 19:00 and the next 5 hours.  The raid shouldn't at least have to wait on me, is my philosophy.
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Post by: Incentos on August 02, 2006, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: PaximperialiHo preso questa decisone non perchè sono un "lootwhore", (in quanto se fossi stato tale avrei fatto subito richiesta per il nostro RG1 quando c'erano posti liberi)

No Italian word for Lootwhore? :unsure:
 
And why is moving to RG1 to fill up a free spot seen as being a lootwhore? Maybe people do it for the same reasons you are joining Righteous RG3? <_<
 
Anyways, goodluck and have fun overthere. :byebye:
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Post by: Thierry on August 02, 2006, 09:15:14 AM
Didn't know you, still good luck in Righteous. That the cunts there may be with you ^.^
 
Cya
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Post by: Manny on August 02, 2006, 11:14:55 AM
Sorry to see you leave pax.
I hope you'll find what you are looking for in righteous.
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Post by: Odesa on August 03, 2006, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: Paximperiali...at yesterday's BWL with our RG2, there were people leaving the raid after only 2 wipes.
Some of us do have to get up early for work; marshalls know about this and know why ppl have to leave the raid before time. And since the marshalls allow it - take the problem up with them.
And it has absolutely nothing to do with a wipe or two, or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6...
 
Quote from: jantoreRG2 needs u since u are MT1.
Actually Pax is MT2, Siffredi is MT1
 
Quote from: ThrebrilithThe attitude/behavior that is described here is not good, and I think all RG2 members should think about it
ya ya ya :thumbsdown: you're in RG1 not RG2. But somehow ppl has gotten the idea, that being in RG1 gives you the right to raise fingers at RG2...well it doesn't!
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Post by: Sazgul on August 03, 2006, 09:49:44 AM
QuoteOriginally Posted by Threbrilith
The attitude/behavior that is described here is not good, and I think all RG2 members should think about it

Yeah I think he meant good. But I'd like to see the word 'ALL' changed with 'SOME'.
 
Siffredi has been our MT1 for a looong time..... "And who's Pax?"
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Post by: Bob on August 03, 2006, 11:05:20 AM
Quote from: Odesaya ya ya :thumbsdown: you're in RG1 not RG2. But somehow ppl has gotten the idea, that being in RG1 gives you the right to raise fingers at RG2...well it doesn't!
I raise fingers at who I want Odesa, and being in RG2 doesn't give you some special protection from that <_<

And if you in your quote included the whole sentence that I wrote, you'd see that I also raised a small finger at RG1:
Quote from: ThrebrilithThe attitude/behavior that is described here is not good, and I think all RG2 members should think about it (actually us RG1 members could give it some thought as well :dry:)
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Post by: Sheperdbook on August 03, 2006, 04:41:55 PM
Shame to see you go Pax!

I'm not personally 100% happy with the reason, but that is your choice and if you wish to stretch your character to the limit then good luck and I wish you well.

Concerning RG2, it's time to start kicking afk'ers or stop them coming to MC nights. Either that or subtract dkp for every minute they go on unsanctioned afk. But it is annoying to be playing with peeps who seem to think that it is ok to wonder off for 20mins with a raid group waiting for them, the lack of dedication is furthermore pitiful.

Anyways I won't be raiding tonight or tomorrow as I'll be getting drunk at the British Beer Festival :flirty:


Shep
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Post by: sheepy on August 03, 2006, 04:50:55 PM
Quote from: SheperdbookAnyways I won't be raiding tonight or tomorrow as I'll be getting drunk at the British Beer Festival :flirty:

Shep, is that the one at olympia?
TL usually attends that one at some point
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Post by: DarkAngel on August 03, 2006, 05:00:01 PM
Im sorry to hear that you are leaving pax, in the end its your decission and i hope you find what ever you are looking for in Righteous. But understand if you leave it is final and you will be replaced.
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Post by: Mazii on August 03, 2006, 05:21:29 PM
Goodluck in Righteous....
 
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Post by: Sebas on August 04, 2006, 07:47:58 PM
Cant say Im happy about your decision Pax and Im gonna miss your tanking. Goodluck @ Righteous
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Post by: DonnieKingo on August 05, 2006, 12:27:54 PM
Thebrillith - i hear you - and can only agree 100%.
 
The first night we tried our luck in BWL there were more people ready to join the raid than there were places, and some didnt get a spot. It all looked good. We had some long delays between fights but we did get a couple of shots at razor.
 
Last time (the second time at BWL) we could not fill the raid....
I reeeeeealllly hope it is because of vacations a such, because if it is caused by people being afraid of spending gold on repairs and therefor not joining in the praticeruns - then there is little luck of us downing Razor before christmas, thats for sure.
 
Thats just my 2 cents.
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Post by: DonnieKingo on August 05, 2006, 12:28:27 PM
And i forgot - sorry to see you go Pax :(
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Post by: Vargen on August 05, 2006, 09:15:22 PM
Enjoy Naxx.
 
PS: The bill is in the mail for the speedy gear-up :norty:
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Post by: Devout on August 06, 2006, 03:59:47 PM
It isnt hard to change a guild when the wind blows right. But why do the easy way, when you can do the hard way and say I did it from the start. For me that is more fun.

Btw I have m8s in Righteous 3, who have been askin to have me try their guild, but what is the fun with that??

Gl in the future but I cant understand the reason why.
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Post by: Tinilgawiel on August 08, 2006, 09:22:20 AM
I agree with the raid groups needing behavourial training..
Since Im soldier I get in wherever there is heartroom. And raiding with RG1 is much more relaxed and fun if you ask me than RG2. (I know RG1 is better geared and they dont need to think so heavily in MC persay).
Raiding should be fun and gathering and that giving good progress and attendance.

If all people do is bitching, Then we all go :thumbsdown:
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Post by: Nefrion on August 08, 2006, 09:45:49 AM
Well... RG2 is still a quite new raidgroup. We have only just mastered to do MC in one night and at the same time we just took down Razergore last night. We still face many challenges and imo RG2 is still learning. We have taken this serious and look how far we have come already. With that said we should ofc have fun. I dont know about you other RG2 but I am having fun.
 
Another thing is that, as I see it, RG1 does not face any challenges atm. They are farming MC and BWL has been cleared as well. The next challenge will be AQ40 and I am sure they are just as focused there as RG2 is when raiding.
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Post by: Neff on August 08, 2006, 11:14:32 AM
True Nefrion. And Rg1 knows eachother better too, or atleast they did in "my time". Ouch, this is a tight situation, but kreuz is dead so no need for BOS! Or yeah, Optical handle that smootly.

I, i fudged up, cant put to words what i wanna say xD