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Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Penfold on August 24, 2006, 10:33:56 PM
This is a thread for the T-Shirt designs as being organised by GhostMjr

design away !!

PEN
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: DuVeL on August 25, 2006, 02:22:56 AM
To be hounest, drop the Doris a PM amd also Slowhand and so.
Or an open contest!
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Penfold on August 25, 2006, 09:08:15 AM
I'm abnegating any responsibility for this - GM just asked me to open a thread

...... the ball's well and truly in his court :whistle:

PEN
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 25, 2006, 09:14:04 AM
any idea what sort of resolution this picture needs to be of if the aim is black/white/other/any colour t-shirts?
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Dewey on August 25, 2006, 09:17:06 AM
well printed stuff is normally 300 dpi
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: delanvital on August 25, 2006, 09:48:54 AM
Some shirts have to be black/dark to use color... is that the case here?

Yeah and an image size would be good.
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Penfold on August 28, 2006, 10:56:00 PM
GhostMjr has decided that he's unable to organise the t-shirts so does anyone else fancy taking up the banner?

If not then the idea is getting scrapped.

I'm away on holiday from early September so really can't take this on.

any volunteers?

PEN
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Penfold on August 30, 2006, 09:33:36 AM
:tumbleweed:


No takers then ?

PEN
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 30, 2006, 09:54:32 AM
I would offer but I'm not sure I'm coming to the lan yet, nor do I know a good t-shirt printers...
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Dewey on August 30, 2006, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: suicidal_monkey;146811I would offer but I'm not sure I'm coming to the lan yet, nor do I know a good t-shirt printers...

 Suicidal you have to come to the lan mate, I need some good bf2 players to test my skills against :)
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Dewey on August 30, 2006, 11:20:17 AM
Suicidal you have to come to the lan mate, I need some good bf2 players to test my skills against:biggrin:
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 31, 2006, 04:01:55 PM
one quote: about £12.25 per t-shirt for a small run of 10 with full colour, or just under £10 if we did 20 of them, about £8 for forty. Alternatively about £9.50 per t-shirt for a small run of 10 and only one colour/greyscale

On that note the jessops/snapfish quote isn't bad at just over £13 per shirt including delivery...

dunno if that price is low enough or not? They do do polo shirts as well, similar price, probably add £1-£2

Quote1. Fruit of the Loom are the standard that we supply. If you look at
www.ralawise.com (http://www.ralawise.com) you can view the colour range.  The t-shirts are
valueweight, and polos are 65/35.

2. Artwork is best in vector eps, photoshop, adobe illustrator 7, coreldraw
12 or a good quality jpeg (300dpi or more).

3. We can print the square background if you wish, but generally it is just
the image itself - not the block background.

If you were to have 10 t-shirts with a full colour print, the total cost
would be £122.21.  This works out at £5.50 + vat per t-shirt, 3 screen
charges at £13.50 + Vat and delivery at £8.51 + vat.  The screen charges are
only payable once, and do not apply to further orders with the same design.
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Doorman on August 31, 2006, 04:04:47 PM
valueweight? Mmm. :g:
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: GhostMjr on September 01, 2006, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Penfold;146486GhostMjr has decided that he's unable to organise the t-shirts so does anyone else fancy taking up the banner?
 
If not then the idea is getting scrapped.
 
I'm away on holiday from early September so really can't take this on.
 
any volunteers?
 
PEN

Sorry about this guys. I couldn't carry on as the student loan company is sending my loan out late. However i got through to a really nice company and they sent me a free sample. It is of an excellent standard. It is made from moulded plastic and the t-shirt is a superb quality. I have posted the email i received from them below when i was researching who to go with. I just dropped them another email to find out how much they are each.
 
GM
 
QuoteDear Scott,

Thank you for contacting us.

The process we use here for printing is Screen Printing with standard Inks. If you would like to see a sample please let me know (along with your delivery address) and i will arrange for one to be sent out to you.

Kind Regards
Eleni Panayis

Client Services Team
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www.indigoclothing.com (http://www.indigoclothing.com/)
eleni@indigoclothing.com (eleni@indigoclothing.com)
0871 711 2151
or +44 (0)20 7329 7711

Ticket Details
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Department: Indigo Clothing Sales
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Status: Open
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: SLoWHaND on September 03, 2006, 06:42:32 PM
Lo chaps

Heres sum old stuff ...........This was originally put forward for a black polo shirt many moons ago
(http://aj.skelton.users.btopenworld.com/dmw/THINKINGOFU.jpg)

heres the same thing again but without the writing in it.
(http://aj.skelton.users.btopenworld.com/dmw/thinkingofu2.jpg)

As I said ..........black polo shirt

SLoWHaND
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: OldBloke on September 03, 2006, 06:53:36 PM
Hi Andy

Nice work as always. :thumb:
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Doorman on September 03, 2006, 07:38:08 PM
Quote from: SLoWHaND;147577Lo chaps

Heres sum old stuff ...........This was originally put forward for a black polo shirt many moons ago
(http://aj.skelton.users.btopenworld.com/dmw/THINKINGOFU.jpg)




As I said ..........black polo shirt

SLoWHaND

I'd buy that for a dollar! :biggrin: Marvelous!
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: BigFatCat on September 04, 2006, 07:50:38 AM
I'd see that as a small front logo on a dark shirt, with a large LAN X backprint.

Nice all the same.
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2006, 08:47:20 AM
Quote from: SLoWHaND;147577Lo chaps

Heres sum old stuff ...........This was originally put forward for a black polo shirt many moons ago
(http://aj.skelton.users.btopenworld.com/dmw/THINKINGOFU.jpg)

As I said ..........black polo shirt

SLoWHaND
I prostrate myself before the master :worshippy:
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 04, 2006, 09:17:17 AM
is that the origianal resolution or is there a higher-res version? :)
The quotes I got were for up to around 300dpi prints, though I imagine you don't need it that fine for a shirt?

the site ghost pointed us towards will do "premium" polo shirts, printed on the front or back (printing both ramps up the price) for around £13 each (price can drop down depending how many colours/screens are required for the print. minimum order is 20, but a run of 25 would mean either cheaper prices or a better quality print?
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: DuVeL on September 04, 2006, 09:25:13 AM
Quote from: SLoWHaND;147577Lo chaps
 
Heres sum old stuff ...........This was originally put forward for a black polo shirt many moons ago
(http://aj.skelton.users.btopenworld.com/dmw/THINKINGOFU.jpg)
 

This one on the front of the shirt somewhere (like the logo of a soccerclub) on a black polo, and the walking logo on the back?
And a text under the picture about LAN X and so?
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Blunt on September 04, 2006, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: DuVeL;147690This one on the front of the shirt somewhere (like the logo of a soccerclub) on a black polo, and the walking logo on the back?
And a text under the picture about LAN X and so?

(http://aj.skelton.users.btopenworld.com/dmw/THINKINGOFU.jpg)

The LAN X bit could go in the curved bar at the top.


I like this 18)
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 04, 2006, 09:38:40 AM
printing on the front or the back in full colour for a run of 25 (or more) shirts would come out at around £13 per shirt. Printing on both the front and back would make it more like £25

I like the one above, LAN X or just -=X=- or something on the gold bar at the top might work - esp if it looked sort of indented in it :)

something like so (hope you don't mind)
(http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/THINKINGOFU_edit.jpg)

heh heh, maybe we should be getting leather jackets and harleys too...
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: GhostMjr on September 04, 2006, 06:10:56 PM
New reply:


QuoteHi Scott,

I can send you out a complimentary sample of a t-shirt with screen printing so that you can get an idea of the print quality. With regard to the cost of T-shirts if you were to place an order, this depends on the style of t-shirt you wish to go for and the design that is to go onto them. Please see below quote for the Valueweight T-shirt, this does not include printing as i will need to see your artwork before i can give you a full quote:

50 Valueweight T-shirts @ £2.05 = £102.50 ex VAT and del.

This item can be viewed on our website at the following link:

http://www.indigoclothing.com/T-Shirts/Standard_Style_T-Shirts/Valueweight_T-Shirt_(165_gsm)_L470/ (http://www.indigoclothing.com/T-Shirts/Standard_Style_T-Shirts/Valueweight_T-Shirt_%28165_gsm%29_L470/)

I hope this information is helpful. Please reply to this email with your artwork attached so i can put together a full quote for you.

Your sample is in today's post.

Kind Regards
Eleni Panayis

Client Services Team
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www.indigoclothing.com (http://www.indigoclothing.com/)
eleni@indigoclothing.com (eleni@indigoclothing.com)
0871 711 2151
or +44 (0)20 7329 7711

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Status: Open
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: SLoWHaND on September 04, 2006, 07:10:39 PM
Quote from: DuVeL;147690This one on the front of the shirt somewhere (like the logo of a soccerclub) on a black polo, and the walking logo on the back?
And a text under the picture about LAN X and so?

Duvels got it right here.

It was intended for something like a small emblem embroided (like an old Fred Perry shirt) or printed onto a polo shirt .......if theres anyone here old enuff to remember them you will know what I mean.

Something that you could wear allmost anywhere
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 04, 2006, 07:18:04 PM
Quote from: SLoWHaND;147894Duvels got it right here.

It was intended for something like a small emblem embroided (like an old Fred Perry shirt) or printed onto a polo shirt .......if theres anyone here old enuff to remember them you will know what I mean.

Something that you could wear allmost anywhere

(based on an order of 25 HEAVY WEIGHT (http://www.indigoclothing.com/printing-embroidery/Detailed/6.html) black polo shirts)

£10.15 embroidered front or back
£14.65 embroidered front and back
£19.50 embroidered front, back, and arm

£9.45-£13.05 depending on number of colours, printed front or back
£13.25-£20.45 depending on number of colours, printed front and back

p.s. I was thinking more a big print on the back of the polo shirt leaving the front plain?
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: SLoWHaND on September 04, 2006, 07:21:21 PM
Summat like this

(http://aj.skelton.users.btopenworld.com/dmw/polo.jpg)
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 04, 2006, 07:24:52 PM
Quote from: SLoWHaND;147903Summat like this
I think that's what they would do with it ... examples look like banks and such in the style of the above post?
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Gorion on September 11, 2006, 09:15:28 PM
i want 2, dont care about the price!
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Penfold on September 12, 2006, 05:20:15 PM
Hi guys,
Just back from holiday - can anyone give us an update please?

Are these going ahead?
Anyone ordered them?
If so how many?

Thanks
PEN
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 12, 2006, 05:53:58 PM
I sent them an email to find out about the embroidered polo shirts and if they're like the one in Slowhands post... what we need is a thread for "who will actually buy a shirt?" thread :) with options like

a)yes- polos, tshirts, both work for me
b)no-whatever design is chosen
c)yes but only if it's the embroidered polo shirt
d)yes but only if it's a screen printed tshirt (assuming people don't have any ojection to where on the t-shirt it's printed)


and a size request... S, M, L, XL, XXL, etc...
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Penfold on September 12, 2006, 06:02:52 PM
Nice one SM, thanks

Once we have their reply we'll try to get some firm prices and people's orders accordingly then I guess

Thanks
PEN
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 15, 2006, 01:48:30 PM
got a quote but have re-jigged the image and resnt it as the quote ended up being huge due to an excessive stitch count. I'm hoping to hear back later today, ...then I'm off to the US tomorrow until next Thursday. I'll post whatever stage I'm at before I go though?

fwiw here's the logo reduced to 16 colours (patterened dithering) and with the background turned to transparent. It's likely to be either 4 to 8cm square. 8cm is what they quoted first, but the image has changed size now ... we await their reply...


(http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/THINKINGOFU_320sq.gif)
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: DuVeL on September 15, 2006, 02:13:03 PM
Sweeeeeet! :flirty: :dribble:
 
b)I'll take a T-shirt or polo or whatever...
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: delanvital on September 15, 2006, 02:19:06 PM
I'll take a couple as well if they are reasonably priced.
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 15, 2006, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: delanvital;150473I'll take a couple as well if they are reasonably priced.
the bigger the overall order the lower the price of the tshirts. The last quote I got (for "heavyweight" polos) would have made it about £22 per shirt but the new quote should be lower, aiming for about £12-£15:flirty:
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Toxteth on September 15, 2006, 03:53:12 PM
Sounds like this is finally pulling together... You going to be able to post an image of the final shirt soon?
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 16, 2006, 10:19:46 AM
This was the last quote, I am trying to get the price down to the same as the online price. The main reason for the larger than expected price was the design being too complex hence the simplified one...

QuoteI have just received your design back from our embroiderer and they have said that embroidery wont work with all the highlights but can do the design with 2 golds, white and black (with no double edge on the wings).
I am pleased to quote you the following:

25 Heavyweight Polo shirts @ £5.65 = £141.25
Embroidery Set-up @ 8cm wide, approx 22,000 stitches = £220.00
Embroidery Charge (25 items) @ £6.75 = £168.75

Total £530.00 ex VAT and del.

Terms and Conditions:

Individual poly-bagging is charged at £0.12 per item.

Delivery for quantities less than 100 items:
£10 ex VAT to a single UK mainland address.
Delivery for quantities greater than 100 items:
To be confirmed at time of ordering.

All prices quoted ex VAT in GBP.
Quotation is valid for 30 days.
Lead time is approx 10-15 working days.
Full payment required before customisation commences.
E. & O. E.

If you have any further questions, or would like to go ahead with this order, please do not hesitate to contact me.
still awaiting the new quote, hopefully i'll be able to get email while I'm away but just in case here are the current files for the logo: http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~bm8746/files/lan_logo.zip (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/lan_logo.zip)

and the contact info:
www.indigoclothing.com (http://www.indigoclothing.com/)
ticket/reference [INDIGO #14471]
email

hopefully this'll be doable...but not quite sure about the "two golds black and white" thing :S
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 18, 2006, 03:16:47 PM
embroidery is troublesome, mainly due to the design being far too complex by the sound of it.

My guess is that with their simplified designs will come out a bit like:
(http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/4.gif) (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/3.gif) (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/2.gif)

This is taking longer and the embroidery option being more troublesome than I had anticipated. free time is kind of thin on the ground for me at the moment and I can't really be wasting time trying to properly edit (you know, without losing some of the detail that's disappeared by letting the gfx program guess) the logo down to a two-tone image, so if anyone else is able to take over this I can fwd the email discussion and image files. Please let me know if you can take the helm of this one. Cheers.
QuoteHi Ben,

Our embroiderer has taken a look at the new design and feels, with regard to stitch count, that it is no different to the original as it was already quoted to a simplified degree. They have said however, that if it were to be simplified more ie just one gold with a black running line, the stitch count would come down to approx 14,000 sts but it would look rather flat compared to the art work. I have quoted you on this option for your reference:

25 Heavyweight Polo shirts @ £5.65 = £141.25
Embroidery Set-up @ 8cm wide, approx 14,000 stitches = £140.00
Embroidery Charge (25 items) @ £4.75 = £118.75

Total £400.00 ex VAT and del.

Terms and Conditions as before.

If you have any further questions, or would like to go ahead with this order, please do not hesitate to contact me.


Kind Regards
Eleni Panayis
 
Client Services Team
--
www.indigoclothing.com (http://www.indigoclothing.com)
eleni@indigoclothing.com (eleni@indigoclothing.com)
0871 711 2151
or +44 (0)20 7329 7711

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Department: Indigo Clothing Sales
Priority: High
Status: Awaiting Stitch Count

Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Gorion on September 18, 2006, 05:58:38 PM
the last 3 dont look nice at all.. ide prefer to pay 22per shirt, then having that sort of logo :P

but ofc, thats just my oppinion...
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 18, 2006, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: Gorion;150981the last 3 dont look nice at all.. ide prefer to pay 22per shirt, then having that sort of logo :P

but ofc, thats just my oppinion...
£22 per shirt is for the version with "two gold shades, black and white" so that'd be the best of those bad pictures... I just reduced the colours to 4 using photoshop/gimp, maybe they'll actively try to retain the text and stuff. fwiw I reckon for embroidery we'd want a specifically designed for purpose, non-shaded low-colour design (for e.g. two different colours onto a black shirt or something) Screen printing is probably better for complex images then...in which case what do people think?
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Gorion on September 18, 2006, 09:57:06 PM
well, printing is good, the only disadvantage is that the print starts fading after a certain anmount of washing :P
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Penfold on September 26, 2006, 09:21:54 PM
I think no-one's come forward to pick up this banner from Monkey so has the idea been dropped ? (unless I missed something).

We've got just over one week to go so I kinda doubt this is going to happen

Can someone please update us ? (as we were thinking about having some as competition prizes and need to re-think otherwise).

Thanks

PEN (on behalf of the gaming committee).
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: suicidal_monkey on September 27, 2006, 11:45:15 AM
last I got back from the company was that embroidery would not be cheap, and that the design would lose most of its colours (the expensive version was with "two golds, black, white") and there weren't enough people interested in it to make it worthwhile.

FYI, if you want a print tshirt you can get one done at Jessops for about £12.
Title: LAN X - 'T'Shirt Design Thread
Post by: Gone_Away on September 27, 2006, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: Penfold;152548I think no-one's come forward to pick up this banner from Monkey so has the idea been dropped ? (unless I missed something).
 
We've got just over one week to go so I kinda doubt this is going to happen
 
Can someone please update us ? (as we were thinking about having some as competition prizes and need to re-think otherwise).
 
Thanks
 
PEN (on behalf of the gaming committee).

What he said.. :/