Dead Men Walking

Old Server Admin Section => SOG Archive => SOG War Room => Silver Oak Guardians => Archived Topics => The Clean Up => Topic started by: TeaLeaf on August 29, 2006, 10:46:36 PM

Poll
Question: How Should We Allocate the Splinters
Option 1: et the Field Marshalls Decide Who Should Receive the Splinters votes: 33
Option 2: old a Vote Amongst RG1 Members to Decide Who Should Get the Splinters votes: 6
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 29, 2006, 10:46:36 PM
This Legendary staff is available to Druids, Mages, warlocks & Priests.

The quest involves collecting 40 splinters from Naxxramas to enable you to create a 'frame for the staff.  The frame then enables you to start a quest for the remainder of the staff materials and to ultimately gain the Legendary class item.  The stats on these staves are truly awesome and include not just personal stats buffs but also group 'auras' from which many more will benefit.  The impact of this staff in the Guild will therefore be a considerable one.

The quest for the staff is a long one and assuming that only one person is collecting the splinters and assuming that the person has 100% attendance and assuming that we are clearing Naxxramus within a week the Field Marshalls estimate that it would take about 4 months to collect sufficient BOP splinters to create a a single frame.  

With this in mind we need to think carefully about whom we allow to collect these splinters.  We would therefore like to pose a question to Silver Oak Guardian members:

Q: Should such a Legendary staff be allocated by

1 - Field Marshalls to a member  whom they see most fit to receive the first 40 splinters? (ie did you want the Field Marshalls to decide).  

OR

2 - Did you want a vote from members to see who should get the staff?

Please think about this carefully as we do not wish to see any more legendary items leave the Guild.  If in doubt as to how important these items are then please refer to the item on thottbot/allakhazam.

TL.
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: StrontiumDog on August 29, 2006, 11:01:29 PM
Well personally I think the 1st staff should goto one of the officers. Would be a just reward for all the hard work that goes into this guild.
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Bob on August 29, 2006, 11:32:48 PM
My oppinion, is that this should be up to the Field Marshals to decide who should get the staff.  They are best fit to see which person it would gain the most (both for the person itself, and the raid as a total).  This could be based on how good the different versions of the staff are (yes, I believe that's something that should be taken into consideration), what persons have really deserved to have it, who are less likely to ever leave the guild, and so on and so forth.

If you leave this up to a member vote, I believe it will be just too "random".
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: opticalrush on August 30, 2006, 12:09:03 AM
my meaning
3 - if youre longer then 1year in the guild and not planning to leave for a ass kissing guild you should have a change getting it

well let it be decided by the officers 40x splinters is allot
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Vargen on August 30, 2006, 03:25:44 AM
Here is an article on the staff and some facts and also the different stats.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh
 
It might be a bit far ahead from where we are now, but I am sure we will see one in guild :smile:
Title: Ateish
Post by: Luthor on August 30, 2006, 04:24:21 PM
Who should have it?
 
I think we can agree on all classes want it, but IMO, he/she that Can benefit the raid the most with it.
 
Mage Version: I don't much about spell aggro, but 5 man with increased crit chance, seems like an aggro machine. That would exclude Mages.
 
Warlock Version: The aura increases the damage output without increasing aggro spikes. and it is the perfect thing for a warlock (i think), that would be a good option.
 
Druid Version: It looks to me like a hybrid staff, that supports more aspects for a druid. I think the staff is more a pvp weapon for druids. and for that they already got the Famous: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=22988 "The End of Dreams", that would exclude druids.
 
Priest Version: +62 Healing to all in the group, that would indeed empower healers. Good option IMO.
 
Just my 2 cent! I dont think it should go a priest, because i play one, but because it imo, will benefit the raid the most.
 
Luthor
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: KreuZ on August 30, 2006, 05:22:52 PM
It's just as good for all the classes, eod. :tongue:
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2006, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: Luthor;146901Druid Version: It looks to me like a hybrid staff, that supports more aspects for a druid. I think the staff is more a pvp weapon for druids. and for that they already got the Famous: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=22988 "The End of Dreams", that would exclude druids.
Quite bad when you use the "personal" stats to argument why the staff should not go to a druid Luthor, when you used the "group" stats on all the other staves.
The druid version gives +11mana/5sec, which is something that will benefit all mana-using players, while the priest version only will gain healers.
Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have those +62healing, but I just think you should be a bit more fair in your arguments :happy:

Quote from: KreuZ;146912It's just as good for all the classes, eod. :tongue:
Right Kreuz... :taz:
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Padding on August 30, 2006, 09:35:39 PM
Paladin gets all pieces
 
No more discussion, and we dont need to vote
 
Padding: "Who's with me, YAY or NAY"
 
Guild: "Which one is yes?"
 
Padding: "Yay"
 
Guild: "YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2006, 09:41:04 PM
:worshippy: Paddmeister :worshippy:
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Luthor on August 31, 2006, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Threbrilith;146953Quite bad when you use the "personal" stats to argument why the staff should not go to a druid Luthor, when you used the "group" stats on all the other staves.
The druid version gives +11mana/5sec, which is something that will benefit all mana-using players, while the priest version only will gain healers.
Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have those +62healing, but I just think you should be a bit more fair in your arguments :happy:
 
Right Kreuz... :taz:

 
What you say is true bob, but i would like to think that we know when we got the staff :) so the raid could be sorted so it benefits most healers.
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Luthor on August 31, 2006, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: KreuZ;146912It's just as good for all the classes, eod. :tongue:

I was just stating my point of view, i did admit its the best for all classes, some classe will just benefit more imo.
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Vargen on August 31, 2006, 12:23:07 PM
The druid staff just traded the spellpower that priests get, with attackpower.
Now why would a priest need (damage)spellpower Luthor? :flirty:
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Lucian on August 31, 2006, 05:26:50 PM
Hunter weapon. Give it to Ashjen.
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: Torir on August 31, 2006, 05:34:54 PM
Personally, I don't have a problem with Field Marshalls deciding who gets the legendary items. They decide who gets the Eye of Sulfuras and the Bindings, so why not all the Atiesh splinters and whatnot too?
Also, if Field Marshalls sorted it out, there wouldn't need to be a vote on who gets the bit if the person who originally won the vote was unable to attend for some reason.
Would also solve the problem of having half the raid group voting for themselves :tongue:
Title: Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
Post by: FATAL on September 01, 2006, 04:44:46 PM
im gonna vote let the officers decide , aggree with stront