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Forum Archive 2023 => Games of old that no longer float our boat........ => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Battlefield 2 => Topic started by: Jewelz^ on September 24, 2006, 09:19:45 AM

Title: Ranks
Post by: Jewelz^ on September 24, 2006, 09:19:45 AM
Whats the quickest way to go up a rank?  :boxing:
Was trying for ages yesterday
and yes i was on a ranked server  :tongue:
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 24, 2006, 11:12:04 AM
Quickest? Karkand 24/7-server, medic or resupply.
If you do that then you can make 1000 points in a couple of hours.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Dewey on September 24, 2006, 05:21:01 PM
Sniper and drop claymores on Karkand is also a quick way to make points
Title: Ranks
Post by: sulky_uk on September 25, 2006, 06:52:24 AM
i wouldnt know ive played on a ranked server twice and hated it, much prefer non ranked:boxing:
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 25, 2006, 07:02:04 AM
Quote from: Dewey;152112Sniper and drop claymores on Karkand is also a quick way to make points

Make sure this is an FF-off-server then.
Title: Ranks
Post by: delanvital on September 25, 2006, 04:55:36 PM
Quote from: DuVeL;152176Make sure this is an FF-off-server then.

:withstupid: especially on Karkand as they would otherwise blow each other up the roof of the buildings with C4 :ranting2:
Title: Ranks
Post by: OldBloke on September 25, 2006, 07:08:35 PM
Joining a server and then playing purely to bump your stats is not the dMw way and does not send out the right message about us.

If you think I'm wrong then say so.
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 25, 2006, 07:33:25 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;152298Joining a server and then playing purely to bump your stats is not the dMw way and does not send out the right message about us.
 
If you think I'm wrong then say so.

BF2 is made for the rankingpart aswell. Ranking on BF2 is what anyone needs to decide for himsel I think.
Unless you mean bumping stats as in statpadding.
But I do rank on publicservers (with my -=[dMw]=-tag) and yes you do come upon some *d**ts sometimes but I also get alot of good comments from people who I've played with. According to me: You still can rank with the -=[dMw]=-tag on!
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Ranks
Post by: OldBloke on September 25, 2006, 07:45:45 PM
I appreciate that ranking is a big part of the BF2 scene but if you make decisions based on your ranking requirements rather than on your team's requirements - that's wrong. Not only is it wrong, it's against everything we stand for. Ranking up should be a consequence of your teamplay, not your goal.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Whitey on September 25, 2006, 07:48:39 PM
I'm not the most experienced BF2 player but I'd think you can still play in the spirit of dMw and enjoy the ranking side of the game.  As long as your still a team player and sticking to the objectives/team strategy does it matter if you enjoy the medals etc that come with playing on a ranked server? :g:



EDIT: OB posted above while I was writing this.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Gone_Away on September 25, 2006, 09:01:31 PM
Strictly speaking OB is correct.
 
Most of the awards and stats in BF2 are for the individual. Imagine a game where if you all achieved the objective you all got the same reward / stat??
 
NF
Title: Ranks
Post by: OldBloke on September 25, 2006, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: Ninja_Freak;152332Strictly speaking OB is correct.

:boxing: :wink:
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 25, 2006, 11:55:11 PM
I still disagree.
The further you get in ranking, the more you need good teamwork and so.
How else do you think I allready have my gold Commanderbadge?
There are nice ranked servers out there where you actually get some teamplay.
 
So if BF2-ranking is not dMw, WoW is?
On WoW it's all about getting higher on levels. Sure, then you'd say about teamwork and such, but you have that on BF2rankedservers aswell (sounds the exact same to me though).
Opinion please. :g:
***Sorry WoW-guys, I don't want to offend here but I see it as the exact same thing.
Example: Last LAN I've showed my BF2-profile and was proud of it. TL showed his WoW-profile and he was proud of it.
Title: Ranks
Post by: OldBloke on September 26, 2006, 07:04:12 PM
I think my point is being misunderstood ...

Ranking achieved through good teamplay and consideration for the objective is fine. And I'm absolutely sure that your ranks were achieved in this manner, Duvel.

However, joining a server and playing as a sniper just so that you can get sniper-related ranking points irrespective of whether your team actually *needs* a sniper (as suggested earlier in the thread) is wrong.
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 26, 2006, 09:39:03 PM
Well, on the new Jallalalalalalalaalabad you need snipers, especially on the server I play (infantry only). The sniper covers his teamm8s so they can move up. Also holding the enemies off as a sniper is really good.
 
Some people also like to rank to get the unlocks. I've finally unlocked my last 2 guns a bit back and now I can use them if I want (if anyone wants to try them at the LAN then go ahead).
 
I like getting the medals through teamplay and such and some are really difficult to get.
I think that if we had played more BF2 in matches and such people would have gone ranking more aswell to get unlocks and to get a higher rank.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Dewey on September 27, 2006, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: OldBloke;152313I appreciate that ranking is a big part of the BF2 scene but if you make decisions based on your ranking requirements rather than on your team's requirements - that's wrong. Not only is it wrong, it's against everything we stand for. Ranking up should be a consequence of your teamplay, not your goal.

Which is another reason why I don't go for medals and ribbons OB (though I do like it when I get a gold, silver or bronze I have to admit) - the majority of people who have put the hours I have into BF2 have most of their medals/ribbons etc, mine though is fairly empty :biggrin: Duvel for example and a number of my mates love getting their medals and I think thats cool - I know they are good team players and their teamwork will benefit any team.
 
Though I'm not saying people shouldn't try for medals either. People play bf2 for all sorts of reasons - I don't think we should be too harsh on people who rank - horses for courses. Personally I prefer teamwork which is why I enjoy playing bf2 in OBC (we had a huge 32 vs 32 USA vs Euro OBC match on sunday which was great fun) and I like the dMw fun comps at the LANS. Its all good :woot2:
 
Put it this way whats more fun?
 
Achieving a medal on your own with no mates to tell or having worked together as a squad to defend or assault a flag or win a round by pulling together, using comms and sharing the feelings of cameraderie during and after the match.
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 27, 2006, 09:52:45 AM
Exactly, if you play alot of medic/resupply you'll end up with medals aswell. A good medic will end up on 1st rank and will get the Gold medal and you helped your team out and got points and a medal.
Getting the gold medal is only possible if you did good teamplay (or unless you were the commander and in the end get a x2).
 
On ranked servers: Usually starting a squad called VC&Teamwork will get you good players in your squad.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Blunt on September 27, 2006, 10:24:49 AM
Quote from: Dewey;152613(we had a huge 32 vs 32 USA vs Euro OBC match on sunday which was great fun)

Result?
Title: Ranks
Post by: delanvital on September 27, 2006, 11:07:32 AM
How I wish we played BF2 more and maybe even did matches...

Anyone up for forming a server roaming party? Like BF2 monday but instead we form a squad and find a server to crash. Could be both regular BF2, PRMM or PoE. We could meet on, say, X-fire and after finding a server with enough room we would log on and make a squad.

I would really enjoy a dMw squad on the PoE map "Fallen". It is an infantry only map, nothing but dense forrest. I love attacking the huts as a squad, where you would toss smoke and storm the hut after having people placed all around the hut. A medic and a resupply player would be key - and the anti-tank kit has been tranformed into a anti-personel. And the supports MG really matters. I have more than once been surprised by such lying down in the bushes, surprising a whole squad.
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 27, 2006, 11:14:57 AM
I've tryed setting a roaming party up once, didn't really work out.
For me it's CounterStrike CZ first, getting more matches and practices in that.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Dewey on September 27, 2006, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: Blunt;152635Result?

4-0 to the Euro team :boxing: made up of Charlie and Delta Companies (4 platoons in each).
 
The yanks beat us the year before, so this time we practiced a few weeks in advance - which is quite a feat when you have to coordinate 6 five man squads (each platoon had 1 squad). Paddy, magnus and bearbison (the guys coming to the lan) came up with the strategys for the four rounds we played the yanks. We played two games of sharqui peninsula on a UK server and two on shonghai stalemate on a US server to make it fair.
 
Great games, very intense but fun and so cool when at game start when you see other platoons running straight by empty helos and vehicles because they are sticking to their set plan and leaving those vehicles for the squads that they have been assigned to.
 
My platoon Delta 2, where given a free role, ie we went where we where needed or where we thought we could cause as much confusion and damage to the opposition, so most of the time we where behind enemy lines attacking a base or taking out their armour before they could engage ours. You can't beat big games of Bf2 :yahoo:
 
The normally loud yanks where pretty quiet in their Vent channel after both rounds he he, but they where gracious in defeat and said they had been soundly beaten.
 
Our next big match is in two weeks - Euro Charlie vs Euro Delta companies (4 platoons in each company) - 32 man a side, no vehicles on karkand and ja-la-la-la-li-bad. Should be just as fun and will be a hard scrap, they have some excellent players... mind you so do we.
 
Blunt, apologies,you only asked for the score and you got a dissertation LOL :rolleyes:
Title: Ranks
Post by: Dewey on September 27, 2006, 04:25:16 PM
Sorry I never managed to get you guys your own server slots for a sunday away - I did ask but the problem is our admin guys are very busy as are our servers - they ok'ed it in practice but then the BF2 league and the knockout cup started and they are always held on a Sunday, and in the week the servers are full or being used for platoon pracitces.
Title: Ranks
Post by: big-paddy on September 29, 2006, 02:16:16 PM
I might have some news on the server admin side shortly. I just need to check authority.
 
Back to the conversation. I agree with the teamwork approach expressed here. On the other hand earning the individual badges has allowed me to practice the different kits and understand much better the strengths and weaknesses of each. Further I have gained unlocks and I understand the plus points and minus points of each weapon. I can also counter others who use them. That is the game as it was designed.
 
Teamwork counts. However sometimes I love to 'have a laugh'. I have recently gotten a name for myself on the OBC server for knifing and claymoring - nice to see you the other night Ninja :) That started just for fun. I now seem to have a band of like minded individuals whenever I start a squad. Strangely we seem to get a lot of points - which sometimes wins the game. However we are just doing it for fun.
 
When we are not playing for fun we kick butt very seriously and yes we do play as a team with commanders, squad leaders and a plan.
 
What I am really trying to argue is keep the serious team mantra for the serious side of the game, competitions, and lets have a serious dose of fun in the rest of it.
Title: Ranks
Post by: DuVeL on September 29, 2006, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: big-paddy;153146What I am really trying to argue is keep the serious team mantra for the serious side of the game, competitions, and lets have a serious dose of fun in the rest of it.

Seconded! And let the fun start at the LAN again (and a serious competition aswell). :biggrin:
Title: Ranks
Post by: Blunt on September 29, 2006, 02:59:09 PM
Quote from: DuVeL;153147Seconded! And let the fun start at the LAN again (and a serious competition aswell). :biggrin:

[thinks]We better split these guys up for the BF2 tourny<_<[/thinks]
Title: Ranks
Post by: big-paddy on September 29, 2006, 04:14:23 PM
Are you bringing any pop Blunt?
Title: Ranks
Post by: Blunt on September 29, 2006, 04:29:38 PM
can do, but I don't want to get stuck with it
Title: Ranks
Post by: big-paddy on September 29, 2006, 06:05:41 PM
I'll have two of your best buckets sir.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Blunt on September 29, 2006, 06:17:27 PM
ok I'll see what I can do...

medium dry ok?
Title: Ranks
Post by: big-paddy on September 29, 2006, 07:32:28 PM
Dry as it comes for me. If thats medium dry then thats fine.
Title: Ranks
Post by: Jewelz^ on September 30, 2006, 12:38:54 PM
btw is there a new patch all my servers have gone red :O