Dead Men Walking

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Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 26, 2006, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: Clawdue to your 3 commanders stepping down, i would like to give it a shot as a commander for 20 man raids.
 
i would like to start thouse runs up again, some of our new members will need the experience as solder and get a chance to gar up.
 
commander why me?
 
after some long and menny runs (specialy to zg) i would consider my self as a experienced player, im exhalted with zandelar and it gives you a point of wiev how menny times i have been raiding to zg,
 
my cc rep isent that big (it su**) but again i have been there and can remember all tactics and fight..
 
i hope this post gives you a point of wiev where i stand and how much experience i have, i would not say im the best of the best but i can give it a try ^^
PM rec'd today.

TL.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Bastet on September 26, 2006, 01:20:08 PM
Jemeny also voiced intrest in a commander seat on the announcement of suspension.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on September 26, 2006, 05:24:07 PM
Personally i would like to w8 till next week then make a list who is interested and i would like to inivte them to a TS conversation to get a impression if they are up to it. Then the best few joining a raid as a co leader and let them see how they do it. Then we can make a good decision i think.
 
lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on September 30, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
Atm there are noted as applicants.
 
yrthal
maybe shadowscream
zabard
clawhammer
siffredi but not all the time
greatdanes
Umbra when possible
Oneangel from time to time.
 
If you have more plz post em.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 30, 2006, 05:37:28 PM
Luthor also talked to me about the Commander role, but he was specificlaly only interested in running the MC show (as a one-man act form his description).  I explained the breadth of roles we hoped a Commander could fulfill and we were hoping they would fulfil.  He stated he was not interested in leading any 20s, just MC.  I confirmed that this would not rule him out of consideration if he applied, but that if we had a choice beteen say 4 commanders who could share the whole workload, and 3 sharing commanders plus him on 'MC only' duty then you might be able to hazard a guess as to the likely preference.  He said he would consider things further and that we might see an application from him, but none received from him yet.

I'll post an applications closing thing on the forum in the hope of kicking him into action.  It would be nice to get this done over the weekend so that we can get both the 20s and the MC going again.

FYI during this consideration, Wednesday will be the day used by the MC run as RG2 will not be moving raid days, so this leaves you with Fri & Sat for full Guild 20s and Monday & Tuesday for half Guild 20s (ie half the Guild is already raiding RG1/2).

TL.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on September 30, 2006, 05:42:55 PM
ok ty tl but on the one man show MC, i dont think that would be a good idea (maybe i understood it wrong there) the Fm use 3-4 ppl for it and i think a commander need 2-3 due to loot etc).
Like i said maybe i got it wrong if so plz enlighten me:).
 
lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 30, 2006, 05:46:10 PM
From my chat with him he clearly thought he could run it solo.  Towards the end of my chat with him he started to get the message that he might need some help to do it, I do not think he was against the idea of help, he just had not realised the amount of things that would need to be done.  What he is totally clear on is that he does not want to help in anything other than MC.  This in my opinion makes an otherwise good application a poor one as Commanders need to be flexible and to help each other in a variety of roles - Luthor seems only to want the 'prestige' position of running an MC raid, which is a shame imo as I think he could be a good help.  

TL.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on September 30, 2006, 05:52:15 PM
Yeah i agree on that i rather have 3-4 commanders for all instances then 1 and not like you said it 1 for a "prestige" spot. but for all who can read this (specially commanders and ex-commanders who of the list would you like to see a commander?.
plz give us your view on things.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 30, 2006, 05:59:01 PM
Yrthal - Never heard him on TS, but he has at least tried to start an AQ20 run tonight.  Possible.

Maybe shadowscream - never heard him on TS.

Zabard - never heard him on TS

Clawhammer - spoken on TS, seems to know what he is doing, he therefore gets my vote. Yes.

Greatdanes - Yes as backup due to Marshall responsibilities. Yes.

Siffredi but not all the time - Yes as backup due to Marshall responsibilities. Yes.

Umbra when possible - No, for no particularly good reason.  Much as I like the guy and love him being in RG1, I get the impression that this would be a short term interest and he would not last.  This is a completely unfounded feeling on my part, but it is the way I feel none the less. No.

Oneangel from time to time - Yes as backup due to Marshall responsibilities. Yes.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on September 30, 2006, 06:53:21 PM
Oops i forgot to post my list sorry for that.
 
yrthal I think he does his best but i think we need to monitor him a bit cause i havent seen him that much but then again at the end i havent been too much around

shadowscream This would be a maybe havent seen him that much and nver heard him.

zabard Heard him a few times and seems willing for now a yes.

clawhammer yes nuff said on claw

siffredi He is a marshall and personally i do not think its a good idea to be a marshall and a commander at the same time it can break you up fast (guess thats also a part what happened to me, you see then only as work). He knows whats he is doing but if i should choose it would be gd.

greatdanes Same as siffredi though he would be a great asset

Umbra tbh not sure he can do it with no doubt but i think he lacks certain qualities that are needed to be a commander. (i would have a hard time to take him serious fex) so a no.

Oneangel Yes but same reasons as gd and siff. he did it a few times and knows his way around.
 
Deadalus i think your vote here is very very important these are your future co-workers and i would love to see your opinion on it. if you do not want to say on the forums feel free to contact me and we can arrange something on TS. Also i though you wanted a talk about aq20 which we need to do also soonish.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 01, 2006, 02:10:51 PM
A late entrant who seems to have accepted the principle of helping across *all* instances, very pleased to see this.

TL.
Quote from: LuthorHi TL.
 
I would like to apply for the rank Commander, and be in charge, together with the commander group, to lead 20 man instances and MC/Onyxia to success.
 
I consider myself a good choice because i have experience with all the encounters we will face.
 
ZG
AQ20
MC
OL
 
I have on several occasions been raid leading for a shorter or longer while, in the absence of a Commander. And offcourse the "famous" MC pick-up run last tuesday.
 
If the seat is given to me, i have some ideas i would like to discuss with the other commander, in order to "improve" the current raiding.
 
Thank you for your time.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Vargen on October 01, 2006, 02:15:47 PM
I think Luthor and Claw will be able to pull this off nicely. I don't know much about the rest of the applicants though. Might it also be worth it to put outdoor raid content under the commanders?
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 01, 2006, 02:17:18 PM
Hmm i think you need 1 commander more if you want to let them have MC and OL also (40 mans need more attention then 20 man leading wise). Also i do not think its a good thing to put the green dragons and azuregos under the commanders due to the randomness of the spawns.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 01, 2006, 02:22:41 PM
Outdoors bosses are always run by whomeveris online, I agree with Luna here.

OL, yes as it is so very easy.  

More than just Luthor & Claw (& Daedalus), yes I think another would help.

I would however not want them to have Channel Commander on TS otherwise FM chat becomes practically public.

TL.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 01, 2006, 03:33:31 PM
I agree on that TL. Isnt there a password the commanders channel? That should ensure their privacy also.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Padding on October 01, 2006, 03:50:08 PM
Yep, agree on all above. Lets get it into works
 
Starting already this wednesday?
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 01, 2006, 03:58:12 PM
Before this getting to work i would say talk to the preffered ppl first. Even so we need another candidate. Also i would like to know how FM and M will help the MC runs it not something you master in a day.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 01, 2006, 11:21:58 PM
Small bump for the other ex commanders and specially deadalus to vent your opinion here. I would like to hear it plz today or tomorrow.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: kregoron on October 02, 2006, 08:25:44 AM
I will post my thougts later today... sorry for the delay ive been a bit busy the last few days :S
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Knabbel on October 02, 2006, 01:45:07 PM
I'm at work now I printed all out and I'll be on TS tonight. I can even stay longer online after tonights BWL run.
 
When I come home I'll read the whole porst.
 
talk 2 u soon.
 
D.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 03, 2006, 04:17:18 PM
LAst BUMP.
 
Plz give me your opinion or PM me. Ts is not the best option here since it would be good to see it here so we can read it (daed we can allways delete this topic after if you want it).
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: kregoron on October 03, 2006, 04:59:08 PM
sorry for not posting yet... for some reason i couldnt access the forums again yesterday :S
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: kregoron on October 03, 2006, 05:07:35 PM
Yrthal - Never seen him lead or anything.. He tried to start a run as TL said... but...

Shadowscream - Nice guy, not affraid to talk on TS if i recall it correct... Yes

Zabard - I dont really remember this guy.. :S

Clawhammer - Think he could be a nice Rleader... talks on TS more then most... He is fine by me..

Greatdanes - Seems to be a okay leader... Yes

Siffredi - I cant remember how his leading skillz is.. :S

Umbra - I agree a bit with TL on this one... Great chap but duno how long it would keep his interest -.- No

Oneangel - good leader.... Yes

Luthor - I think he would be a okay leader... BUT he has a happit to try to take over the runs and go solo.... so we would need to keep a eye out for a while i guess....
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 03, 2006, 06:08:16 PM
I would like a TS meeting with the (ex) commanders to talk about stuff. And ASAP. Which means wednesday would be best. After discussing it internal we should talk to the FM after.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: kregoron on October 03, 2006, 08:21:57 PM
good idea
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Knabbel on October 04, 2006, 06:56:55 AM
Hello guys, as I see a lot of posts are made yesterday, I wasn't able to read the forum the entire day.....was it just me?
 
D.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 04, 2006, 07:12:13 AM
THere seem to be some problems at the moment with the routing or DNS management on the redirects.  Try accessing through //www.deadmen.co.uk/forum - the forum was up this whole period.

TL.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Knabbel on October 04, 2006, 07:15:18 AM
Okay Here I go.... as I didn't hear all people on TS or not sure if I did spoke to them.
 
 
 
Yrthal - He is still in the learning phase as far as I know...(afaik). Needs more practise I think. ...NO
 
Shadowscream - I'm not totally with this guy..dunno...I get a strange feeling with him/her..... NO.
 
Zabard - I can recall Jemeny helping out and knew what he was doing. I also liked the critics he gave me (not mend in a wrong way), meaning he will give his comments..... I say YES.
 
Clawhammer - Clawhammer is a nice and dedicated person. YES
 
Greatdanes - Seems to be a okay leader... Yes
 
Siffredi - Siffredi is one of my favorites, I do know his contribution could be to much to handle....but I would like to have him onboard... Clear voice.....YES
 
Umbra - I have no experience with him...I cannot say go or no go....
 
Oneangel - dispite of the low volume of his voice sometimes, I think he is doing a good job... YES.
 
Luthor - Clear to understand, not affraid to speak on TS. Would remain calm..... YES
 
I am realy sorry for the delay, but as posted above I wasn't able to get on the forum yesterday, were there problems?
 
One last thing on my comments.....It's realy hard to tell whether people are qualified for leading or not. Most people I didn't see leading anything but that doesn't mean they are not up to it. A trail would be a idea....
 
D.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 04, 2006, 04:22:06 PM
well atm i think we should get the 3 candidates we think are qualified and approach them and i would to select those with the (ex) commanders on TS asap. So i hope ppl are online tonight (same goes for me i got a new modem to install).
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Menedil on October 04, 2006, 05:42:43 PM
im available for a discussion tonight if you need me, ill keep checking back here for a time to be on TS, or plz contact me on MSN - whatthefuxor@hotmail.com
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 04, 2006, 07:40:53 PM
Sigh the old modem is weird atm (hence i timed out from scource, sorry for that) also the new modem doesnt work cause it does not want to see i have an adsl line. So i cant join today.
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 06, 2006, 06:46:57 PM
OK we need to have the meeting this weekend. Else it will take too long plz be online on ts when you can and hopefully we can do this meeting soon (is i say get here at 19:15 saturday we only get ppl not beeing able to join so be on TS as much as you can plz).
 
Lunares
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: kregoron on October 07, 2006, 10:52:59 AM
im not online today.... :S got some important rl stuff to attend too (Very angry gf) but i should be online all day tomorrow...
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: Knabbel on October 07, 2006, 06:49:44 PM
Spoked with Luna...I'm there..
 
people do get unpatience..... but we didn;t planned 20mansish with a purpose.
 
 
D.
Title: Commander Applicants
Post by: lunares on October 08, 2006, 02:55:47 PM
The (ex) commanders made the decision that we want yrthal, luthor and clawhammer as a commander we will take it up with the Fm soonish.
 
Lunares