SOG One - One Raid for One Guild:The Field Marshalls are pleased to announce their plans for Molten Core raiding.
- The Guild will operate weekly raids to Molten Core each Wednesday evening, invites as usual at 19.15.
- The MC raids will be open to both mains and alts and to the whole Guild irrespective of membership type.
- The MC raids will be operated by the Commanders.
- MC raid places will be booked via a booking system like the current 20s booking system.
- Commanders will approve an appropriate class balance and spread of quality prior to each raid to give the raid a reasonable chance of success, as well as rotating those in each class to give everyone a chance to attend.
- The run would not be open to RG2 mains in a week in which MC was on the RG2 schedule. Commanders will not approve RG2 mains to raid in such weeks, although alts are of course eligible.
- A rep-based system similar to ZG is to be used, although set at a much lower level. This will reward attendance with a better opportunity to get Epic loot. This would not use or earn DKP, thus having zero impact on the current DKP standings. Setting the required rep levels at Friendly for Mains and Honoured for Alts should mean it is not too difficult to achieve for any character as reputation is gained so quickly in MC.
- Legendary items - these will be prioritised to RG1 & RG2 mains and would have the attendant DKP cost where a main took the item as in these cases the Guild would be likely to support the cost of materials etc. For set items (like Bindings) priority goes to those who already hold one of the set items. Where a legendary item goes to a non-RG1/2 main then there would be no DKP cost and Guild Bank would not subiside the legendary item being crafted.
- All non-epic drops go to Guild Bank to help cashflow. All BOE epics where nobody Need rolls will also go to Guild Bank.
- All BOP recipes/patterns are given to a Field Marshall first, then a Marshall, then a Commander as first choice. Where none are present or none need the recipe it would be an open roll to those in the raid.
We hope these announcements meet your general approval. They allow Molten Core to continue to be a regular part of the SOG raiding scene for both RG1 & RG2 mains. Importantly it also allows access to Molten Core, for the first time, to members not currently part of RG1 or RG2 and it also allows Alts to enter MC and gain access to MC and the Tier 1 epic loot therein.
The Field Marshalls wanted ALL members (including Alts) to have access to loot, so the loot system approved had to be simple and give realistic chances of getting loot to ALL members. We believe that the above system will be simple to administer and fair to all members.
We are now setting up the necessary support systems to allow the raids to start and an announcement regarding the appointment new Commanders run both the MC and ZG & AQ20 raids will be made very shortly. In the mean time we very much hope that this announcement is greeted with your unanimous approval.
TL.
/applause
Yippee! Although Wednesday nights are an infernally crap school night for me. Friday would be a much nicer option.
Well planned, a very good solution to those who lack gear in RG1/2 of MC. And to very quickly equip new members :D
Good job - great for all in the guild :D
Hell yea, Good job there :)
oh well, thats 1 day less sleep ^_^
bdw, eta to start doing this?
NICE!!!, thanks to you all, at last soldiers in guild now have a chance to have a fun with their main in MC :D
thank you all <3
Nice:yahoo: Stormrage Legguards here I come! :boxing:
Pointless whine: why o why does it have to be wednesday? - end of pointless whine.
Sounds like a great plan to get some more folks (both soldiers and alts etc.) into MC. Good work :clap:
The only thing I would have changed, if I were to decide: I see you've put some restrictions on legendary drops (priority to RG1/2 mains). These restrictions should also be used at tier2 leggings from Ragnaros, so that RG1/2 mains won't need to fight alts/soldiers to complete their tier2 sets.
Other than that, it's all sweet :thumbsupsmileyanim:
:yahoo:
Quote from: Myanmar;153425Pointless whine: why o why does it have to be wednesday? - end of pointless whine.
Because Friday and Saturday have already proved historically to provide abysmal attendance and all other days are occupied by either RG1 or RG2.
/end of pointless answer :tongue:
TL.
Great job Marshalls/commanders :yahoo:
Im in with either gonzalez (warlock) or Gijs (warrior) wich ever is needed most
best idea ever! :)
:yahoo:
It's nice to see this implemented and its one of the things I was looking forward to most... good luck to whoever steps up to Commander now ;D
Good to see the ZG loot system being brought over too :D
Fantastic!! :thumbsup: :clap2:
QuotePointless whine: why o why does it have to be wednesday? - end of pointless whine.
Yeh, open runs is very nice, but I can't stay after 22:00 during week days...so I usualy only can get up to Shazzra (or something).:sad:
Why not a friday or something?
Maybe, but its the only day that actualy works properly....
hell yeah!!!!!!
/raptuous applause
couldn't be much better timing. my wednesday night darts league ends after this coming wednesday
Quote from: sheepy;153466hell yeah!!!!!!
/raptuous applause
couldn't be much better timing. my wednesday night darts league ends after this coming wednesday
Haha, awesome, couldnt be better timing :biggrin:
Anyways, good idea, good "rules", see ya on wednesday :yahoo:
GREAT!... still a good chance that i'll get my last T1 piece and those illusive DS leggings... :biggrin:
QuoteWhere a legendary item goes to a non-RG1/2 main then there would be no DKP cost and Guild Bank would not subiside the legendary item being crafted.
In other words: It's pointless to roll if you are not RG1/2 main hehe. Come on, who on earth can get the mats for a Sulf hammer or TF on his/her own? (yeah, the hunter from KoA, but it's a hunter so it doesn't count):lmfao:
But about the rep-thing. An alt needs more rep than a main to get certain loot right? But if an alt has honor already and a main too, does a main still get priority on an item? (if it is a major upgrade or something).
And is this concept of raiding also going to happen to Ony raids? (maybe not mains from RG1/2, but alts and soldiers just like yesterday).
woohoo now i can get some gear
Quote from: Shadowsong;153484In other words: It's pointless to roll if you are not RG1/2 main hehe. Come on, who on earth can get the mats for a Sulf hammer or TF on his/her own? (yeah, the hunter from KoA, but it's a hunter so it doesn't count):lmfao:
i got all but the cores when i made mine, thats only bit imo u can possibly ask a guild to give, get off ur arse n farm the rest, well and the elementium for TF
Quote from: Keltor;153496woohoo now i can get some gear
Why? Don't tell me you DEed your legendary mining pick too :lmfao: .
Quote from: Bastet;153460Maybe, but its the only day that actualy works properly....
I have to correct you there bastet... yes it is the best day, because most people are available... but blizzard tend to have something called Maintaince :narnar: which screws all plans :biggrin:
What else can i say but /CHEER! :)
Quote from: Shadowsong;153484In other words: It's pointless to roll if you are not RG1/2 main hehe.
Yep, you're right, when it drops and you want it just pass. Someone else will be more than happy to take it. Mats can be bought from Guild Bank, they can be paid for by either DKP or Gold, so ti is a legitimate way of getting epic loot. And before you laugh, this is a better situation than not having access to it at all, so I am glad you recognise the improvement.
Quote from: Shadowsong;153484But about the rep-thing. An alt needs more rep than a main to get certain loot right? But if an alt has honor already and a main too, does a main still get priority on an item? (if it is a major upgrade or something).
No. If all have the rep, then just like ZG (as you will know well from the ZG runs) it becomes an open roll.
Hope this helps.
TL.
realy nice :P hope i can get some more dps gear for my mage to pvp and gank more hordies hehe :biggrin:
Well don't get me wrong, it realy think it's a good idea. I was just making a point and had a question.
Quoteget off ur arse n farm the rest, well and the elementium for TF
Well, the only thing I do in this game is bloody farming...yet it is still impossible to get like 5000G to get mats for just the epic sulf hammer.
And with enchanting as proffesion, you won't get dark iron and arcanite easy you know...
Again, don't get me wrong, Im not complaining, just making a point (and get some things straight). Better to get things straight than to find out the hard (bad) way. I didn't know about the ZG-rep thing, only been in ZG once with a guildrun and in AQ once, so I couldn't know.
Just be sure that if the situation should arise that you can roll for a legendary item, that you are prepared to do the HUGE investement of time, money and effort to complete it. Would be a shame if it just lies around in some bank, never getting to be used.
Quote from: Shadowsong;153618Well, the only thing I do in this game is bloody farming...yet it is still impossible to get like 5000G to get mats for just the epic sulf hammer.
And with enchanting as proffesion, you won't get dark iron and arcanite easy you know...
you can have 2 professions u are aware?
/applause :yahoo:
Quote from: Soalra;153648you can have 2 professions u are aware?
Yes Im aware of that. Got enchanting and tailoring (DE items I make with tailoring).
But with estimate costs above 5000G (Sulf hammer) or above 7000G (Thunderfury) and BC coming next month (at least...that's what they say) it's a waste to roll for a legendary item if you are not RG1/2.
(Come to think of it, still got plenty of arcanite and stuff in horde guildbank....hmmmm)
Only bot-farmers can make such a great amount of money in such a short time solo.
Ah well, Im happy enough if I can a few set-items from MC.
I think the point is that RG1/RG2 members already contribute many hours of their time and gold in repairs , what I mean is, the mats that 'guildbank provide' for legendary item crafting came about due to the time and effort of RG1 and RG2, thus it is the members of which who get them back when needed. The alternative is to allow soldiers who may have spent an hour in MC thus far, access to mats that have taken RG1 and RG2 many months to accumulate. It may not seem fair but in essence Guardians and Defenders have ALREADY grinded for the mats and are just awaiting the drops while GB looks after them for us ;)
I know what you're saying tho, 'If we have to send drops and mats from mc to guildbank, why can't we get something in return' in which case, not a clue :D.
maybe boe/mats from signup MC should be primarily for money/mats for soldiers?
The guild bank is already using a LOT of money to provide Dark Iron Armor for the tanks needed and NR/FR etc pots for all the raids so we dont really have a lot of spare cash
I get your point Umbra, I don't mind if RG 1/2 get legendaries first, it was just that I made a point that it is useless for soldier/alt to roll for a legendary.
And I can assure you, even though Im "just" a soldier, I have spent more than just a hour in MC:wink: (damn...no good wink smilies).
Like I said, still got a horde char guild-bank with some MC stuffies, I was the one that had the "experience" of MC so we could pull our own guild through. Guild fell apart though as soon as most didn't want to spent time on the learning curve for Maggy.
I would have gone for defender if I could, but timing is a bit of a problem.
(yeah, I do like raiding a lot)
I tell you this so you don't think Im some epic-whore (legendary?) soldier who want free legendaries because I just made a point about it.
Somehow I got the feeling an anouncement is turning in one huge discussion, sorry for that:smile:
Sorry SS, I wasn't getting derogatory at you at all, you'e a good chap, was just taking a guess at the reasoning, no idea how many hours someone like Gorion has spent in MC, probably about the same amount of time I've spent gaming/partying/hump1ng in total. so if a legendary drops no-one else in the raids minds if it goes to someone who a) has spent hundreds of hours/gold raiding with them and b) will use the kit to spend hundreds more hours/gold dying/learning with them.
there might be some link from total dkp to access rights to legendary, so peopel who live in SoG are more likely to get it.
Soldiers are good people indeed but TBH there's less holding them in the guild than Guardians/Defenders (not saying more likely to leave or no reason to stay, but certainly less reason)
hmmm, Am I a troll? :(
Quotehmmm, Am I a troll?
Judging by your hair and grumpy voice, i would say yes :rolleyes:
This weeks raid cancelled due to extended maintenance
Unless it actually comes up before then, which has been seen before...
So watch out for the server, and post on the forums if it comes back up sooner than expected