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Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Vargen on October 24, 2006, 10:01:25 PM
Over the last few months we have used the 'highest DKP' system which is a nice system as it is simple to apply, but it does rely on members recognising when it is better to pass on an item for someone else. Over this period we have seen several heated arguments in the forums and several members leave over loot issues. The Field Marshalls have decided that this situation is likely to continue unless we investigate some changes to the current system and have recently completed a lengthy reevaluation of the current loot system and the alternatives.

As a result of this reevaluation we have agreed on trialing a new loot system for both RG1 and RG2 which works with priorities, then DKP. This priority list can be viewed at www.wow-loot.com (http://www.wow-loot.com/) and this site lists all drops in all instances with a set priority for the different classes, including those classes who could play different talent trees (ie druid, warrior and paladin).

This system will be trialed for a month and will start with effect Thursday 26th October 2006. After this month we will evaluate the performance of this particular system and any feedback you have submitted and make a longer term decision.
 
As you can see from the loot priority list each member needs to be identified in a specific role for the system to work. Hence we are asking ALL members to state their classification in this post.    This is absolutely essential for the dual role classes, but not essential for those classes with only one classification.

Please state your classification from the following list, your choice will determine your loot priority. If a member has not posted in this thread then the default category will be applied to their loot priority until such time as they post here in this thread to the contrary. Your choice will remain for the duration of the month trial. If the system persists beyond that then you will have an opportunity to elect to change your classification by PM prior to the end of the month, with any such change in classification taking effect from the 1st day of the following month.

Loot Priority Choices:

Druid (Caster) - Default
Akall  
Eldranûn
Neagalius
Octain
Threbrilith        

Druid (Feral)
Soupastar
Vargen

Hunter
Bunfur
Donniekingo
GreatDanes  
Lucian
Nebuoh
Priori
Ratatosk
Soulbringerx  
Tanales
Yliana

Mage
Deadlyspirit
Kregoron
Kreuz  
Teaelle
Xiaa  

Paladin (Healing) - Default            
Daedalus
Marduk
Mazii
Padding
Soalra

Paladin (DPS)
Buford
Gallahan
Garagrim
Secohan
Werful

Priest
Clawline    
Lunares
Luthor
Pentesilea

Rogue
Bastet (sword)
Eva (sword)
Incentos (sword)
Jemeny (sword)  
Keisuke (dagger)
Luminance (sword)
Noevra  

Warlock
Jantore
Saori
Sazgul
Strontiumdog    
Vanguish

Warrior (Tanking) - Default
Gorion
Jorgen
Mjolner
Ragefull
Sheepy
Siffredi
Valdeko              

Warrior (DPS)
Dajo
Myanmar
Tika
Umbra
Yrthal

Please provide your ongoing feedback on this trial loot system in the separate thread posted here (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=158541#post158541).

Thank you.

The Field Marshalls
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Dajo on October 24, 2006, 10:18:17 PM
Dajo - Warrior (DPS)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Akall on October 24, 2006, 10:33:12 PM
Akall - Druid (Caster)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Secohan on October 24, 2006, 10:47:20 PM
Secohan - Paladin (DPS)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Buford on October 24, 2006, 11:00:56 PM
Buford - Paladin (DPS)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: jantore on October 24, 2006, 11:08:47 PM
Jan Tore - Warlock (Uber DPS)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Siffredi on October 24, 2006, 11:13:08 PM
Siffredi - Warrior (tanking)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Greatdanes on October 24, 2006, 11:24:46 PM
Greatdanes - Hunter
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Yrthal on October 24, 2006, 11:27:20 PM
Yrthal - Warrior (DPS)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Claw on October 24, 2006, 11:28:07 PM
Priest - Healing
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Bob on October 24, 2006, 11:30:14 PM
Threbrilith - Druid (Caster)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: DarkAngel on October 24, 2006, 11:53:09 PM
Ragefull - tank
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Soulbringerx on October 25, 2006, 12:13:50 AM
SoulbringerX <---- Hunter<---Agility <---- Rap
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: kregoron on October 25, 2006, 12:43:49 AM
mage (Theimbapwnagetype)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Nebuoh on October 25, 2006, 07:07:32 AM
<-- Hunter Markmanship DPS, so AGI, RAP :), but then I guess most or even all of us hunters want and need that
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 25, 2006, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: DarkAngel;158587Ragefull (Tank/DPS)
Please pick one.

TL.
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Padding on October 25, 2006, 08:49:27 AM
Padding
 
Healing Extravanganza
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Tanales on October 25, 2006, 08:49:40 AM
Hunter (DPS)   ...
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: StrontiumDog on October 25, 2006, 08:51:47 AM
SD - Warlock
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: ratatosk on October 25, 2006, 09:05:59 AM
Well hard choice for us hunters:g: ! ok then... i go DPS
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: DonnieKingo on October 25, 2006, 09:06:12 AM
DonnieKingo - Hunter - DPS
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Jorgen on October 25, 2006, 09:28:53 AM
No idea if I should be on the list as I'm still a trial but what the h*** :)

Jorgen - Tank
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Zabard on October 25, 2006, 09:40:01 AM
After a lot of consideration, I think I'll sign my rogue up as... rogue. Should we specify our most wanted form of melee? In that case, I'd like to sign up as sword.
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Luthor on October 25, 2006, 10:01:55 AM
Well can i choose other than priest? okey priest it is then.
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Garagrim on October 25, 2006, 10:09:02 AM
Sign me up as DPS. (paladin)

Thank you

Garagrim
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Knabbel on October 25, 2006, 10:22:15 AM
Daedalus is holy palla......
 
I'll let other do dps
 
I think this could be a good step forward hope this will all make happy!!
 
Goodjob on this marshalls...:yahoo:
 
More happy people, better motivated people......this could be a win win situation.
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Gallahan on October 25, 2006, 11:05:33 AM
Gallahan (DPS), btw was looking through the loot priority site and i couldnt seem to find the Quickstrike ring in MC on that list, correct me if im wrong.
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Dextroy on October 25, 2006, 11:18:08 AM
Soupastar (Feral)

I always have loved to be feral specced, but i don't mind healing either. But tbh i would pick feral over resto spec any day. In the end i will pick whats needed to the group most. If i need to go healing, i will. Hoping to be able to gather some feral gear along the way anyways.
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Incentos on October 25, 2006, 11:22:27 AM
Incentos - rogue - sword
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 25, 2006, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: Gallahan;158727i couldnt seem to find the Quickstrike ring in MC on that list, correct me if im wrong.
Check under

Shared Drops:
-Baron Geddon
-Golemagg
-Garr
-Magmadar
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Deadlyspirit on October 25, 2006, 11:36:09 AM
I am mage then. I will go the dps way :D
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Marduk on October 25, 2006, 12:08:52 PM
Considering the fact that paladins can never actualy use there "hybrid ablities"in the raid due to blizzards demand on healing
i will go for the healadin priority
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Umbra on October 25, 2006, 12:14:50 PM
Umbra - dps (dw fury: yes it makes a difference from arms)

for example, that list shows ashkandi as perfect for dps warrs, but drake fang talisman as just 'ok' if you're DW fury warr its the other way round - DFT is fantastic
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: noevra on October 25, 2006, 12:17:50 PM
noevra

rogue (fist. stil that is....)
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Werful on October 25, 2006, 03:30:59 PM
Werful - Paladin DPS 21/0/30
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Myanmar on October 25, 2006, 03:50:27 PM
Myanmar Warrior DPS
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Tika on October 25, 2006, 06:21:04 PM
Tika DPS warrior
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Priori on October 25, 2006, 06:28:23 PM
Priori - Hunter
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Lucian on October 25, 2006, 07:30:57 PM
Add Lucian to hunters please.
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Bunfur on October 25, 2006, 09:43:09 PM
Bunfur - Hunter
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Sazgul on October 25, 2006, 10:40:01 PM
Sazgul - Warlock
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Vanguish on October 26, 2006, 12:31:36 AM
Vanguish ===> Warlock
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Sinap on October 26, 2006, 01:17:23 AM
Xiaa -  Fire Mage
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Eva on October 26, 2006, 05:26:42 AM
Eva, sword rogue
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: gijs on October 26, 2006, 02:20:45 PM
Octain - 100% Resto Druid :yahoo:
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: saori on October 26, 2006, 03:31:24 PM
Warlock
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Keisuke on October 26, 2006, 06:04:11 PM
Keisuke - sword rogue
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Luminance on October 26, 2006, 10:51:42 PM
luminance - sword rogue
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Yliana on October 27, 2006, 08:18:06 AM
Yliana, Hunter
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: valtsace on October 27, 2006, 02:56:21 PM
valdeko - tank
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Soalra on October 27, 2006, 03:04:30 PM
Soalra - Paladin (Healing) i guess
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: sheepy on October 27, 2006, 03:08:31 PM
tank 4 me
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Bastet on October 27, 2006, 03:13:48 PM
rogue, duh :narnar:
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Gorion on October 27, 2006, 04:12:26 PM
pls add me, you know the spec :P
 
duh?..
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Neagalius on October 27, 2006, 04:20:44 PM
Neagalius - druid caster
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Mazii on October 27, 2006, 11:09:41 PM
Paladin healing
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Dajo on October 28, 2006, 12:14:11 AM
Quote from: Gorion;159480pls add me, you know the spec :P
 
duh?..

gorion tank
 
 
would be shorter to type, rly :P
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Mjolner on October 28, 2006, 11:38:26 AM
Mjolner - Tank
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Sazgul on October 30, 2006, 12:50:22 PM
From Eldranûn
 
Eldranûn - Caster Druid
Title: Trial Loot priority system!
Post by: Bastet on October 30, 2006, 04:03:13 PM
rogue, sword
Title: Loot System Trial - Finished
Post by: TeaLeaf on November 22, 2006, 09:21:54 AM
We have tested the loot priority system over the last month and taken a lot of feedback from members on both the positive and negative aspects of the system.  The officers (both FMs & Ms) will now consider the feedback, the effectiveness of the system and its practical administration and come to some conclusions as to its effectiveness as compared to alternatives.

The officers will post the results of their discussion in the next week (Vargen is currently away until the weekend) and will detail the agreed loot system for the all raid groups.

In the mean time, the loot priority trial is over and until the officer announcement is made as to the selected loot system we will use PURE DKP.  We would urge all members to think carefully during this week of Pure DKP loot as to which items would most benefit them and then raid and to pass where appropriate.

TL.