Dead Men Walking

The PTR for the upcomming patch '2.01' is going live soon, the patch can be already downloaded and is 478MB big.
 
New talents, new honour system and new stats will be added to the game.
 
There are still no official words comming from Blizzard.
 
Direct Link to download page:
 
http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/en/copy/downloads/files/pc/WoW-1.12.0.5590-to-2.0.1.6114-enGB-patch-downloader.exe

nice one akall

Quote from: Averinn @ US BoardsYes, we are currently working towards bringing the PTR's up. If all goes well they can open late tonight at the earliest. If we have any hiccups we'll be looking at PTR's coming online later this week. If they don't come up tonight I'll share what I know tomorrow morning.

Thread Link (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46947078&sid=1&pageNo=1)

A bit long but they give an idea of what the new patch will do:

Quote from: Blizzard 2.01 Patch Notes--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- World of Warcraft Test Patch 2.0.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The latest patch notes can always be found at
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/


General
-  All players will have talent points reimbursed and will have access
   to new talents throughout their trees; this includes the 41-point
   talents. Several new abilities have also been added for all classes.
-  All pets now receive a percentage of their master's armor, spell
   damage, spell resistances, attack power, and stamina.
-  Low-level spells cast by high-level players will receive smaller
   bonuses from +healing and +spell damage.
-  HoTs, DoTs, and channeled spells have been re balanced to receive a
   more appropriate (higher) percentage of +spell damage and +healing.
-  HoTs from different sources will now stack (i.e. multiple druids can
   cast the Rejuvenation spell on 1 target).
-  New item property "Resilience" has been introduced. Resilience
   reduces your chance to be the victim of a critical strike, and
   reduces the amount of damage critical strikes do to you.
-  Weapon Skill now does the following:
-  Weapon skill will no longer reduce the percentage damage lost due to
   glancing.
-  The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon
   skill against monsters above their level.
-  When casting a buff on a low level target, the appropriate rank of
   the buff will be automatically be applied.
-  Crowd Control effects in PvP will last no longer than 12 seconds
   instead of the full duration, with a chance of a heartbeat resist.
-  Players will no longer lose faction when under the influence of
   "Mind Control" or the Gnomish Mind Control Cap.

PvP
-  Honor System Revamp
   Current honor totals have been reset.
   Players may display their highest lifetime rank title (accessible
   from character sheet).
   Honor points earned each day may now be spent as a form of currency.
   Check the PvP tab of your character sheet to see your honor
   information.
   PvP rewards are no longer unique.
-  Marks of Honor earned from battlegrounds are no longer turned in for
   reputation or honor.  They are now used in addition to honor points
   in order to purchase rewards.
-  Two New Arenas are now available in three different modes.
   2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 matches
   Players may queue up at Goblin NPC's in Stormwind, Ironforge,
   Orgrimmar, Undercity, and Gadgetzan

Druids
-  The talent "Swiftmend" will now include bonus healing from the
   talents "Improved Rejuvenation" and "Empowered Rejuvenation".

Hunters
-  Traps can be set while in combat, but require a 2 second arming time.
-  Auto shot will be automatically enabled if the Hunter steps out of
   melee range while in combat with target.
-  1 agility will now grant 1 ranged attack power.
-  Auto shot is now reset when casting Aimed Shot.

Shaman
-  Shaman with the appropriate talent spec are now able to dual-wield.
   Both main and off-hand weapons can be affected by self-weapon buffs
   such as Windfury.
-  Rockbiter's weapon functionality has been changed. It is now a
   damage proc instead of a flat attack power bonus.
-  Windfury Weapon and Rockbiter Weapon enchantments will only benefit
   the weapon with the enchantment on it.

Warlocks
- Range of "Drain Life" and "Drain Mana" spells have been increased.

Warriors
-  Rage generation from dealing damage has been normalized.
-  All Rage awards are averaged with our expected rage per swing
   (adjusted for weapon speed).

Items
-  The "Far Sight" effect has changed so that the camera now zooms in
   to a distant location, rather than instantly showing the distant
   view. This also affects the items: Ultra-Spectropic Vision Goggles,
   the Ornate Spyglass, and the Hunter ability "Eagle Eye."
-  Spells can now require either a totem item or a totem category item
   to cast a spell. This means that the Enchanting Rods now count as
   all of the lower level enchanting rods as well, so you only need a
   single enchanting rod instead of all six. This also means that
   "Finkel's Skinner" now counts as a Skinning Knife. Several weapons
   that are picks have been flagged as counting as a Mining pick as
   well.
-  Items that give bonuses, such as + to crit, have been modified to
   adhere to a combat rating system.
-  All current items will provide the exact same benefit from ratings
   at level 60 as they provided before the ratings system.
-  Thrown weapon items no longer stack, but use durability instead. One
   unit of durability is lost per throw, and these items can be repaired.
-  The tool tip for the Great Staff of the Guardian now shows the
   proper increase of 28 to the party spell critical rating.
-  Items that are useable from player inventory with a cooldown will
   now update the cooldown in real-time.
-  Players will no longer be able to sell the "Blue Skeletal Horse" to
   vendors.
-  The damage Proc from the item "Misplaced Servo Arm" will no longer
   break the Rogue ability "Gouge".
-  The "Skull of Impending Doom" has been changed and will now increase
   run speed by 60% for 10 seconds, but deals damage equal to 60% of
   your maximum health and drains 60% of your maximum mana for over 10
   seconds.
-  The Backfire effect on the "Net-O-Matic" will no longer break on
   damage.

Professions
-  All of the profession-made items that have been created up to now
   have been given proper stats based on the current expansion item
   level progression table.
-  Most of the items made by Tailoring/Leatherworking/Blacksmithing
   have had their creation time reduced. Now the cap on time required
   to make an item in those professions is based on quality and level.
-  New Max times required.
   Level 31+ Green Items at least 8 sec
   Level 31+ Blue Items at least 15 sec
   Level 31+ Purple Items at least 25 sec
   Skill level now determines what items you can disenchant.
   Skill 1= Level 1-20
   Skill  25= Level 20-25
   Skill  50= Level 25-30
   Skill  75= Level 30-35
   Skill 100= Level 35-40
   Skill 125= Level 40-45
   Skill 150= Level 45-50
   Skill 175= Level 50-55
   Skill 200= Level 55-60
   Skill 225= Level 60-65
-  Players will no longer lose an item when attempting to disenchant
   on a boat when the loading screen appears.

User Interface
-  Meeting Stone gossip options have been removed from Innkeepers in
   preparation for the new LFG system.
-  LFG/LFM UI
   Tips have been added to Loading Screen tips and new player tips
   Meeting Stones now function similar to a Warlock Summon spell.
   Player's select party member to be summoned and right click the
   stone.
   A second party member then clicks the portal to summon.
-  Enchanting UI has been vastly improved.
-  Raid UI now supports frame for Main Tank.
-  Spell Alert (Enemy Cast bar)
   Defaults to off
   Enabled through Interface Options
   Displays targeted enemy's cast bar when they are casting.
   May also be displayed with "V" key functionality.
-  Auto-loot may be enabled with just one click in the Interface
   Options.
-  Character sheet UI now displays more precise melee, ranged, and
   spell stats.
-  Players can now cast item targetable spells on items that are in
   your action bar. For instance you can cast feed pet and have the
   food you want the pet to be fed in one of your action bars.
-  Semi-charged items can no longer be placed in the Auction House.
-  A knowledge base has been added to the in-game UI.
-  Searchable database of FAQ's and common support issues.
-  Keyrings have been expanded to hold more key-type items and will now
   size dynamically for the number of keys in possession.
-  The Hunter ability, "Mend Pet," will now turn red when a pet is out
   of range.
-  Players will now be able to disable ability messages in the floating
   combat text.
-  Players will now be able to scroll down their ignore list if it
   extends beyond one page.
-  The tooltips for the Show Dispellable Debuffs and Show Castable
   Buffs options will now specify they only apply to raid pullout
   groups.
-  Significant changes have been made to User Interface customization.
   For specific details, please visit
   http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&sid=1.

Bugs
-  The Rend Blackhand arena event in Upper Blackrock Spire will now
   properly reset after a wipe.
-  Players will no longer resurrect with low mana and health if they
   died and released on a Zeppelin or Ship.
-  Fixed an issue where effects with 100% chance to be applied were
   being resisted.
-  Fixed an issue where high level players were not being properly
   credited the right amount of faction reputation.
-  Party members will now be properly credited for completing the
   "Dead Man's Plea" quest when a totem or pet gets the killing blow
   on Baron Rivendare.
-  Slowing abilities and spells will no longer decrease the speed of a
   player when traveling by Gryphon.
-  Fixed an issue where players were re-taining talent based abilities
   even after re-training.
-  Fixed an issue where the Warlock spell "Shadowburn" was improperly
   consuming two Soul Shards.
-  Fixed an issue where players were unable to click on anything if
   they had any add-ons installed.
-  Fixed an issue where players were able to use "Mana Burn" on mobs
   and players without mana.
-  Fixed an issue where spells that proc while a player was standing
   would not proc if they were sitting or lying down.
-  Fixed many interface overlapping graphic issues.
-  Fixed an issue where Seal of Justice (Rank 2) will now refresh with
   melee strikes.
-  Blood Elf mobs in Azshara will now have the correct model.
-  Fixed an issue where a spell with two procs would be reflected and
   one of the procs would still hit the player that reflected the spell.
-  Fixed an issue that was putting Hunters back into combat when they
   have the "Spirit Bond" Talent or have the Cryptstalker set bonus.
-  Fixed an issue where players were being awarded the wrong item when
   double looting a corpse under the master loot option.
-  Fixed an issue where players interrupted while casting would have a
   longer cast time than normal.
-  Fixed an issue where players could not see enchants when inspecting
   another player.
-  Fixed an issue where extra attacks from "Windfury Weapon" would not
   proc "Flurry" when they crit.
-  Fixed an issue where players that were killed in freezing traps
   would be stuck there until releasing.
-  Fixed an issue where Warlocks were able to despawn a pet to gain a
   free "Soul Shard"in the Battlegrounds.
-  Warrior "Shield Slam" and "Shield Bash" will no longer trigger a
   proc from an equipped weapon.
-  Fixed an issue where players were able to consume a Mana Emerald at
   full mana.
-  The totem, "Wrath of Air," will no longer be useable in "Ghost Wolf"
   form.
-  Fixed an issue where Warrior "Battle Shout" was causing too much
   threat.
-  Fixed an issue where computers with ATi video cards were sometimes
   having problems when displaying a certain texture.
-  Fixed an issue where the Warlock spell "Death Coil" gained double
   the benefit from the talent "Shadow Mastery".
-  Player pets will no longer attack CC'ed targets while in Passive
   mode.
-  "Prayer of Spirit" will no longer cast on the user if there is no
   other target selected.
-  "Lightning Shield" will now have the appropriate cool-down time
   between uses.
-  Fixed an issue where materials were being consumed if a player
   logged out before an enchantment had finished being applied.
-  The Hunter, "Auto Shot," ability will no longer activate on
   resurrection.
-  Fixed a bug where "Inner Focus" was not being consumed when using
   "Mind Soothe."
-  Fixed a bug where Rogues were able to use the ability
   "Ghostly Strike" when not facing their target.
-  Warlock pet dismiss sounds will now play properly.
-  Fixed an issue where Fist weapons were sheathing improperly.
-  Bags will no longer overlap the Bank UI when the game window is
   resized.
-  Players will no longer be able to whisper to enemy players in
   Battlegrounds.
-  The Skeletal Gryphon ride for the Eastern Plaguelands PvP event will
   now fly at its correct speed.
-  Players will no longer be able to whisper to enemy players in
   Battlegrounds.
-  Players will no longer be able to jump onto the top of the Dun
   Baldur Fortress in Alterac Valley and get behind the terrain to
   attack other players.
-  Shapeshifting will now break "Nogginfogger Elixir" effect.
-  You will no longer die when Feign Death is finished channeling.
-  "Scatter Shot" will now properly do damage even if the target is
   immune to the confuse effect.
-  "Aspect of the Cheetah" will now properly trigger with absorbed
   damage.
-  Casting a lower rank polymorph on a target that is already under the
   effect of a higher rank will cause an error message and not consume
   mana.
-  The talent, "Master of Elements," will now properly proc off of
   totems.
-  Players will no longer be attacked by same faction guards when using
   mind control on an enemy player to attack.
-  "Vanish" will now properly un-target the Rogue from the attacker
   when the attacker is in the same party.
-  The talent, "Improved Chain Heal," will now properly add to the base
   healing done.
-  "Healing Wave" Ranks 11 and 12 will now benefit from the Shaman
   talent, "Healing Way."
-  "Improved Curse of Agony" will now properly increase the base and
   spell power.
-  Warlocks will now be properly credited a Soul Shard from their pet
   when they take a flight path.
-  Warlocks will now be properly credited a Soul Shard from their pet
   when they are dead at the end of a Battleground match.
-  Warlocks will now be properly credited a Soul Shard from their pet
   when they enter an Arena.
-  Casting "Dark Pact" after exiting combat will no longer put you back
   in combat.
-  The tool tip for the "Great Staff of the Guardian" now shows the
   proper increase of 28 to the party spell critical rating.
-  Several Chest spawns in Dustwallow Marsh will now properly spawn
   above ground.
-  Items that can give +Stamina/Intellect from random suffixes will now
   properly apply while dead.
-  "Beastmaster's Gloves" will now give the proper 2% crit chance for
   Hunter pets.
-  Various graphical errors will be noticeable while viewing maps.

wow, so we get the 41pt talents but no new talent points :S eep

But you get a free revamp. and you can choose whatever specc you like :P

I have done that enough times now to know what I like, all it means is that I have to spend gold on skills *again* after i spec the rank 1 in the talent tree

41pt fury ftw:D

Quote from: Umbra;162666wow, so we get the 41pt talents but no new talent points :S eep

Yep and not one hunter will be able to do any sort of proper dmg compaired to Mages DPS warriors and Rogues, unless they introduce some new spells to. So ill just go sleep or something untill TBC comes out.

So the new patch is going live tonight?

The Public Test Server is going live tonight...

Was a bit of reading but i won't it asap :D

- When casting a buff on a low level target, the appropriate rank of
the buff will be automatically be applied.
 
- Two New Arenas are now available in three different modes.
2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 matches
 
Shaman
- Shaman with the appropriate talent spec are now able to dual-wield.
Both main and off-hand weapons can be affected by self-weapon buffs
such as Windfury.
 
OMG! :ranting2:  Many shammys now lol!
 
- LFG/LFM UI
Tips have been added to Loading Screen tips and new player tips
Meeting Stones now function similar to a Warlock Summon spell.
Player's select party member to be summoned and right click the
stone.
 
NICE! :clap:

PTRs and Character Copy page are up.

https://www.wow-europe.com/en/ptr/

Have fun :D

yay, 4 day wait time to copy your char over though, but will be nice to test new feats with ones own char for once.

Yeh that is the bad part, I suggest all ppl wanting to test to go to the character copy page as soon ans you can cause the time you'll have to wait increases very fast.

Maybe they will also open the 'premade' copy...

no they are testing the part where you compy your main on this PTR so i doubt they will.

I did copy my character but... what will be copied? My char with all equip in bank and items? Or my char with only the equip he was wearing when I copied it? :g:

HTTP Status 500... Errors... Im guessing as so many are trying to access it?

:ranting2:

The few times I manage to get to the final part of the character copy phase, I only get this annoying error message:

QuoteUnable to complete request

                                                                                       There was a problem with your request.  Please go back and try again.                                   

To avoid possible errors in the future, please refrain from using the web browsers "back" button.

Have re-done the whole process from start several times now, but it seems to crash there every time!

Suppose Blizzard's servers are under pretty heavy load right now :rolleyes:

Still waiting for my chars to arrive at the PTR, I made a level 1 char to walk around a bit.
 
The interface changes...well...I need to get used to the new location of the map button, and honor tab. For the rest, nice (especialy for casters).
 
Guards in city have leveld to 65 now, and there is an extra boat in Auberdine...however, we can't go to the new goodie island because you will need TBC.
 
Also, when making a new char, you also see the Draenei and Bloodelf logo's, you can't click em however.

the extra boat in auberdine is for the dranei starting loc

just tried again, even though the pages are responding nice and fast now, it still says, 'error, cant copy' or similar.

tell me WHAT error maybe?

I haven't been able to copy my char either. I've been trying to do so since yesterday morning.
 
So I decided to create a new char on the PTR and lvl it to lvl 10 (before the tiredness set in), to see what the new druid trees look like since there where some additional changes made to the trees in the beta. Well ... they're still the same, maybe they just didn't update them yet :sad: .

Quote from: Umbra;163108just tried again, even though the pages are responding nice and fast now, it still says, 'error, cant copy' or similar.

tell me WHAT error maybe?

y :S why give a option if it doesn't work anyways

bah, there seems to be a pattern emerging of

'hey look there's something new, but you can't have it'

blizz, if you're not gonna let people in, don't fecking tell them to try

well on Sat i'm buying an xbox 360 and Gears of War, co-op with a mate, blizz can masticate on my testicles, I don't like being teased

Argh :ranting2:
This is really starting to annoy me now!  Have tried for a couple of days now, I've tried from different computers in case there was something buggy stuck in my session, but nada :angry:
I see the average waiting time is down to 3 days though... :sideways:

Quote from: Umbra;163253on Sat i'm buying an xbox 360 and Gears of War

Gears of War, eh Umbra?
http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20061027 :rolleyes:

yeah, 3 days till it loads up and tells you 'an error occured'

aye, this Weekend i'm buying new pc and an xbox 360 :)

mm, toys

gib money.
 
im skint  (as usual)

As of 8:57 this morning i managed to copy 2 chars to beta (same mechanism as ptrs) so if anyone is awake now, GO TRY IT NOW!

Quote from: Umbra;163394As of 8:57 this morning i managed to copy 2 chars to beta (same mechanism as ptrs) so if anyone is awake now, GO TRY IT NOW!

Yesyesyes :yahoo:

Finally worked for me as well (not to TBC beta, but regular test realm) :clap:

Ive copied Tan to tempest keep(beta realm) a while back but dont have a key so cant play on it :(

aww man, go get a key, i'd love to go duo questing with ya :D

All Characters seems to be copyed into the test realm, both me and Pax are, atm, doing Arenas over Arenas to test new talents.

My char is called Llaka cause blizz seemed to have some problems with my previews name :eyebrow:.

Cya in there :D

Been on the test realm testing 3 of my chars since last evening.
 
Warrior talent changes weren't as bad as I thought...infact they are pretty good. Only the +weaponskill en "white crits" are greatly nerfed (sucks big time). Hitting mobs from level 57 will be getting tricky even if you got +7 hit and +4 hit talents....:doh:
Tank spec also has been improved. Even with full tank spec, you are able to solo a level 60 frostmaul giant with 1H shield combi non-epic gear (enchanted thorium and stuff). Fury remains a bit the same...arms ftw!
 
 
Warlock, major major major buff. The Felguard is totaly wicked awsome! It got 3.7K hp, quite a lot of armor, 109dps (mine at least had) and super abilities. I had to give up nearly all my destro talents...but it was way worth it. When patch goes live, I think I'll take this same spec again. Shorter destro range however sucks (30yd is a bit too short). It tanks waaaay better than VW, and has more DPS then succu.
 
Bad part is...(for warlocks at least) you need to find mobs of at least level 52 now to get shards (instead of easy peasy 48's).
 
New dungeons are ingame as well, but you can't enter them (either need keys or TBC or in most cases are just plain way to high level).
 
Druid talents. Well, haven't fully tested em, but Tree of Life is very very boring. Looks suck, and well...it's aura is nice for other healers but otherwise....rubbish.

After 3 days of tests I'm asking myself what the f...k were Blizz devs thinking about when they created the felguard. Is like giving godomde to the alredy overpowered locks :sad:

And please don't come here and say that locks are not overpowered...

You can find the undocumented patch changes here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46968307&sid=1&pageNo=1.
 
We're getting more bag space, whoohoo :yahoo: .
 
But I still haven't been able to copy a character :sideways: .
 
 
And you're right Akall the felguard is really overpowered. Here is a movie showing a felguard solo killing an epic warrior in a duel: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=2271851758537033558. Tbh it looks like the warrior is just fooling around a bit, but still :narnar: . Appearantly it's pretty good at keeping aggro as well, which is something locks really needed; voidwalkers are utterly useless at tanking mobs.

Yeh, I sent an e-mail to blizzard suggesting them to implement a macro in the lock's UIs that actually calls the GM's .kill command. :lmfao:

Quote from: Akall;163601After 3 days of tests I'm asking myself what the f...k were Blizz devs thinking about when they created the felguard. Is like giving godomde to the alredy overpowered locks :sad:
 
And please don't come here and say that locks are not overpowered...

They're not, if a lock has a felguard, he ain't got much talents left for himself. I tried felguard...but the fact that I don't have range anymore, even more mana costs and other stuff makes me think twice before I'd take the felguard again.
Also, the felguard got lot's of dps and hp/armor, but still it aint a hunter pet... It was nice for WSG, maybe AB...but anything where range comes in, it sucks.

Just to make things clearer on what will happen with locks:

They will send their Felguards stunning you and critting you for 800 (this while I was in moonkin form - aka +360% armor) then dot you up (mind that dots are now much much more powerful - i.e. I died while healing me in healing gear) then IF you are still alive, you've managed to kill the Felguard and you are thinking to begin nuking the lock (all this if you still have mana to do it) they will just fear you and use Drain Life that is not the same thing that is now in game but a spell that ticks on me for 300 a tick and maybe Siphon Life healing them by up to full life.

Now don't come here telling me that locks are not overpowered because after 1 and 1/2 weeks of heavy testing on PTR I know what I'm saying. Locks in PTR can kill 2-3 ppl togather just sending the pet on one dotting up all of them and fearing them.

I will add some SS if needed. For once whinings on the official boards are sensed...

Gib more Lock love :P

If theres a hunter amongst those three hell be dead in about 18 seconds, thats how long the beastial Wrath lasts :P
Ive been doing arenas a few hours every day and im BM spec atm, and i can usually take out 2 dps casters during those 18 secs, where both me and my pet cant be stopped unless killed :D

PATCH DATE RELEASED: 5/12/2006

Quote from: Drysc @ US Boards[/SIZE][/SIZE] The next World of Warcraft content update, “Before the Storm,” will include the new PvP Honor System, as well as other new features that will prepare us for The Burning Crusade expansion. We are currently planning to release this content update next Tuesday, December 5. Please note that the patch date is still subject to change, and we will keep you informed of any changes to the plan as they happen.

If the patch goes live as planned, this will be the last week that new PvP ranks under the old Honor System can be earned, as the patch will immediately introduce the new Honor System. We will run one final honor calculation on December 5 and update everyone’s ranking accordingly on that date so that players who achieve a new rank for that week have the opportunity to display that title on their character. Please note, however, that no new PvP rewards will be unlocked for purchase with this final “old Honor System” calculation, regardless of any increase in rank.

For those who have been seeking high-rank PvP armor and weapons, note that the new Honor System will still include these item rewards, and it will actually be easier to earn these items under the new Honor System than under the old Honor System. Those who wish to see how their PvP abilities measure up against other players will still be able to do so under the new Arena System.

I know the 5th is a Tuesday but this is a US post so I'll guess we will have it the day after on our regular maintenance day. :)

mmm, for me the patch is of 648MB.....:g: extrange....

same for everyone saori

phew..... another week to finish downloading!

use the .torrent file in a proper torrent client like uTorrent (http://www.utorrent.com)?
i did that and i had the update in about 1 hour

I am using the torrent file. my connection isnt as quick as urs obviusly.
 
Mine has taken 3 hours so far, ive got about 30 mins to go
 
(doesnt help that its wireless, and a shared connection.)

Quote from: Tanales;165747use the .torrent file in a proper torrent client like uTorrent (http://www.utorrent.com)?
i did that and i had the update in about 1 hour

I did the same thing last week, since my background downloader was borked (it killed itself after checking the first 35Megs :sideways: ). Got it in 15-20 mins, not bad.
 
Btw, for the people that are that don't know where to find the torrent file; it's in your %WoWDir%\cache directory. If it isn't there, you need to start the background downloader, which will create it for you.

Whoohoo, my character has finally been copied over to the test server (about time too :sideways: ).
 
The new feral stuff is really awesome. Both cat and bear get a considerable DPS increase from Mangle. Bear mangle is critting for 1100 - 1400 and cat mangle for 800 - 1100:dribble: . Most of the time regular mobs die in 3 hits. Additionally Imp.LotP keeps us at full health at all times, it's great for grinding. Just pull 4 to 7 mobs, go bear and spam both swipe and maul. We also seem to have a bit more rage to spend. This might be due to the rage normalization change, which seemingly works in the druid's advantage. Bear tanks will also be happy, personally I'm taking about 8-9% less damage the before, due to the -crit%/+stats and +dodge talents. Bears are becoming increasingly powerfull multitarget/melee tanks, taking about as much damage as a prot warrior, but still delivering nearly as much damage output as an arms warrior, while tanking (seriously, no I'm not joking). I have to say this is a bit 'weird', but hey I don't mind :norty: .
 
It has also become pretty interesting to look at having a imba feral druid along in a raid. The +5% crit and with +6% heal on crit aura is very welcome addition in a melee group (more damage, more combo points for rouges and a permanent free HoT). Permanently having -505 armor (FFF) and +30% bleed damage (Mangle debuff) on mobs can also lead to a decent overall increase in raid DPS. Besides it's nice to have some flexibility. Druids can do everything, so if you're ever low on tanks or melee DPS it's nice to have a specialist along that can properly fill the gap.
 
Overall I'm pretty impressed by the improvements to the druid class. It feels like we're now on par with the other classes. We're able to do everything just as well as the specialized classes we emulate, but we just do it in a slightly different way so we don't infringe upon their territory. I don't know about balance though, that tree definately has improved, but I think it still needs a bit more looking in to (AoE damage and threat management wise).

Ok now is more then official :D:

QuoteAs most of you will have guessed by now, this coming Wednesday we will be going live with our latest patch “Before the Storm”.
In order for us to implement this patch we will be extending maintenance on all realms by 6 hours, bringing it to a total of 12 hours. Starting at 1am, we expect the maintenance to be finished on Wednesday, December 6th at 13:00 CET.

For more information about “Before the Storm” please have a look here: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/

Another update from US boards:

Quote from: Drysc@US BoardsThe talents released with the 2.0.1 patch will be more recent than those seen on the current PTRs; however as the beta talents are in a constant flux there will likely continue to be some discrepancy until the release of the expansion.

With this new update all the plans and calculations are useless as we don't really know what we are going to have :blink:

Lol.. Might aswell go for a spec as close to your current one untill the final talents are revealed then?
Always nice to see they wanna make it better, but they seem a bit undetermined some times:lmfao:

In theory this should be the ones we are getting tomorrow.

Click Me (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc)

Quote from: Akall;166553In theory this should be the ones we are getting tomorrow.
 
Click Me (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc)

Nope, those are for the TBC beta. If I'm correct we'll be getting the talents of the previous beta push. The talent trees will be updated again when the expansion arrives, although that will only be minor tweaks ofc.
 
(I would prefer the ones you posted though :) ).

I was wrong, the ones Akall posted seem to be the right ones. They updated the trees :yahoo:.
 
Here are the patch notes: http://www.worldofwar.net/patches/2-0-1.php.

Btw, for those that still need to download the patch files; here is a pretty fast mirror: http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/worldofwarcraft/patches/enGB/.

Apperently a lot of people has expirienced that their Screenshots folder gets delete after you patch your game....

Hmmm if its going to take this trend Realms will be up next week

Quote from: Aeus @ EU BoardsThe maintenance is extended for another 2 hours, with a new ETA at 15:00. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

:angry::eyebrow::sideways:
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i also lost all my addons after the patch had completed and installed.. :S

That is normal as the language ins which they are programmed is no more supported from WoW (it has been upgraded)

Quote from: kregoron;166656Apperently a lot of people has expirienced that their Screenshots folder gets delete after you patch your game....

There was a blue post on the WoW Forums about this, warning people to back up their screenshots folder. Presumably the bug was noticed too late to fix it in the binary.

Since gaming sites are blocked at work for me, can someone post the patch notes in the forum so I can drool before I get home...cheers.

It will be a bit spammy but here they are:

Quote from: 2.0.1 Patch NotesLooking for Group Interface Tool

A new Looking For Group tool designed to assist players in finding groups for instanced dungeons and quests will now be available. This interface gives players the option to be added to a pool of other players also looking for a group, as a means to expedite the process. In addition, players will also be
able to search for additional members in situations where they have a group and are simply looking to find more players.

For a complete overview of this new interface, please take a moment and read the information contained on our comprehensive Looking for Group preview.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/lookingforgroup.html


General

• All players will have their talent points reimbursed and will have access to new talents throughout their trees; this includes the 41-point talents. Several new abilities have also been added for all classes.
• All pets will now receive a percentage of their master's armor, spell damage, spell resistances, attack power, and stamina.
• Low-level spells cast by high-level players will receive smaller bonuses from +healing and +spell damage.
• HoTs, DoTs, and channeled spells have been re-balanced to receive a more appropriate (higher) percentage of +spell damage and +healing.
•  HoTs from different sources will now stack (i.e. multiple druids can cast the Rejuvenation spell on 1 target).
• New item property "Resilience" has been introduced. Resilience reduces your chance to be the victim of a critical strike, and reduces the amount of damage critical strikes do to you.
• Weapon Skill now does the following:
•  Weapon skill will no longer reduce the percentage damage lost due to glancing.
• The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill against monsters above their level.

•  When casting a buff on a low level target, the appropriate rank of the buff will automatically be applied.
• In PvP, Crowd Control effects will last no longer than 12 seconds instead of the full duration, with a chance of a heartbeat resist.
•  Players will no longer lose faction when under the influence of "Mind Control" or the Gnomish Mind Control Cap.
• Several improvements have been made to the Macintosh client, including support for Multi-Threaded OpenGL on Intel Macs running OS X 10.4.8 or higher.

PvP

•  Honor System Revamp
•  Current honor totals have been reset.
• Players may display their highest lifetime rank title (accessible from character sheet).
• Honor points earned each day may now be spent as a form of currency.
•  Check the PvP tab of your character sheet to see your honor information.
• PvP rewards are no longer unique.
• Marks of Honor earned from battlegrounds are no longer turned in for reputation or honor. They are now used in addition to honor points in order to purchase rewards.

•  Two New Arenas are now available in three different modes.
• 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 matches
• Players may queue up at Goblin NPC's in Stormwind, Ironforge, Orgrimmar, Undercity, and Gadgetzan

[/LIST]Druids

• The talent "Swiftmend" will now include bonus healing from the talents "Improved Rejuvenation" and "Empowered Rejuvenation".
• "Omen of Clarity's" duration has been increased to 30 min.

Hunters

• Traps can be set while in combat, but require a 2 second arming time.
• "Auto shot" will be automatically enabled if the Hunter steps out of melee range while in combat with target.
•  1 Agility will now grant 1 Ranged Attack Power.
•  "Auto shot" is now reset when casting Aimed Shot.
• "The Beast Within's" Bonus damage caused has been reduced to 10%, but now also reduces the mana cost of all spells by 20%.
• Freezing Traps will now cancel combat when cast.

Mages

• "Frost Nova" (Water Elemental Spell) has now been renamed "Freeze".

Shaman

•  Shaman with the appropriate talent spec are now able to dual-wield.
• Self-weapon buffs such as Windfury Weapon can be applied to both main and off-hand weapons.
•  Rockbiter's weapon functionality has been changed. It is now a damage proc instead of a flat attack power bonus.
• Windfury Weapon and Rockbiter Weapon enchantments will only benefit the weapon with the enchantment on it.

Warlocks

•  The range of "Drain Life" and "Drain Mana" spells have been increased.

Warriors

•  Rage generation from dealing damage has been normalized.
• All Rage awards are averaged with our expected rage per swing (adjusted for weapon speed).

Items

• The "Far Sight" effect has changed so that the camera now zooms in to a distant location, rather than instantly showing the distant view. This also

affects the items: Ultra-Spectropic Vision Goggles, the Ornate Spyglass, and the Hunter ability "Eagle Eye."

• Spells can now require either a totem item or a totem category item to cast a spell. This means that the Enchanting Rods now count as all of the lower level enchanting rods as well, so you only need a single enchanting rod instead of all six. This also means that "Finkle's Skinner" now counts as a Skinning Knife. Several weapons that are picks have been flagged as counting as a Mining pick as

well.

•  Items that give bonuses, such as critical strike percentage, have been modified to adhere to a combat rating system.
• All current items will provide the exact same benefit from ratings at level 60 as they provided before the ratings system.
• Thrown weapon items no longer stack, but use durability instead. One unit of durability is lost per throw, and these items can be repaired.
• The tool tip for the Great Staff of the Guardian now shows the proper increase of 28 to the party spell critical rating.
•  Items that are useable from player inventory with a cooldown will now update the cooldown in real-time.
• Players will no longer be able to sell the "Blue Skeletal Horse" to vendors.
• The damage Proc from the item "Misplaced Servo Arm" will no longer break the Rogue ability "Gouge".
• The "Skull of Impending Doom" has been changed and will now increase run speed by 60% for 10 seconds, but deals damage equal to 60% of your maximum health and drains 60% of your maximum mana for over 10 seconds.
• The Backfire effect on the "Net-O-Matic" will no longer break on damage.

Professions

• All of the profession-made items that have been created up to now have been given proper stats based on the current expansion item level progression table.
• Most of the items made by Tailoring/Leatherworking/Blacksmithing have had their creation time reduced. Now the cap on time required to make an item in those professions is based on quality and level.
•  New Max times required.
•  Level 31+ Green Items at least 8 sec
•  Level 31+ Blue Items at least 15 sec
•  Level 31+ Purple Items at least 25 sec

• Skill level now determines what items you can disenchant.
• Skill 1= Level 1-20
• Skill 25= Level 20-25
• Skill 50= Level 25-30
•  Skill 75= Level 30-35
• Skill 100= Level 35-40
• Skill 125= Level 40-45
•  Skill 150= Level 45-50
•  Skill 175= Level 50-55
• Skill 200= Level 55-60
• Skill 225= Level 60-65
• Players will no longer lose an item when attempting to disenchant on a boat when the loading screen appears.

[/LIST]User Interface

• Meeting Stone gossip options have been removed from Innkeepers in preparation for the new LFG system.
• LFG/LFM UI
• Tips have been added to Loading Screen tips and new player tips
• Meeting Stones now function similar to a Warlock Summon spell.
• Players select party member to be summoned and right click the stone. A second party member then clicks the portal to summon.

• Enchanting UI has been vastly improved.
• Raid UI now supports frame for Main Tank.
• Spell Alert (Enemy Cast bar)
• Defaults to off
• Enabled through Interface Options
• Displays targeted enemy's cast bar when they are casting.
• May also be displayed with "V" key functionality.

• Auto-loot may be enabled with just one click in the Interface Options.
• Character sheet UI now displays more precise melee, ranged, and spell stats.
• Players can now cast item targetable spells on items that are in your action bar. For instance you can cast feed pet and have the food you want the pet to be fed in one of your action bars.
• Semi-charged items can no longer be placed in the Auction House.
• A knowledge base has been added to the in-game UI.
• Searchable database of FAQ's and common support issues.

• Keyrings have been expanded to hold more key-type items and will now size dynamically for the number of keys in possession.
• The Hunter ability, "Mend Pet," will now turn red when a pet is out of range.
• Players will now be able to disable ability messages in the floating combat text.
• Players will now be able to scroll down their ignore list if it extends beyond one page.
• The tooltips for the Show Dispellable Debuffs and Show Castable Buffs options will now specify they only apply to raid pullout groups.
• Significant changes have been made to User Interface customization.

For specific details, please visit http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&sid=1.

• Bugs
  • The Rend Blackhand arena event in Upper Blackrock Spire will now properly reset after a wipe.
  • Players will no longer resurrect with low mana and health if they died and released on a Zeppelin or Ship.
  • Fixed an issue where effects with 100% chance to be applied were being resisted.
  • Fixed an issue where high level players were not being properly credited the right amount of faction reputation.
  • Party members will now be properly credited for completing the "Dead Man's Plea" quest when a totem or pet gets the killing blow on Baron Rivendare.
  • Slowing abilities and spells will no longer decrease the speed of a player when traveling by Gryphon.
  • Fixed an issue where players were re-taining talent based abilities even after re-training.
  • Fixed an issue where the Warlock spell "Shadowburn" was improperly consuming two Soul Shards.
  • Fixed an issue where players were unable to click on anything if they had any add-ons installed.
  • Fixed an issue where players were able to use "Mana Burn" on mobs and players without mana.
  • Fixed an issue where spells that proc while a player was standing would not proc if they were sitting or lying down.
  • Fixed many interface overlapping graphic issues.
  • Fixed an issue where Seal of Justice (Rank 2) will now refresh with melee strikes.
  • Blood Elf mobs in Azshara will now have the correct model.
  • Fixed an issue where a spell with two procs would be reflected and one of the procs would still hit the player that reflected the spell.
  • Fixed an issue that was putting Hunters back into combat when they have the "Spirit Bond" Talent or have the Cryptstalker set bonus.
  • Fixed an issue where players were being awarded the wrong item when double looting a corpse under the master loot option.
  • Fixed an issue where players interrupted while casting would have a longer cast time than normal.
  • Fixed an issue where players could not see enchants when inspecting another player.
  • Fixed an issue where extra attacks from "Windfury Weapon" would not proc "Flurry" when they crit.
  • Fixed an issue where players that were killed in freezing traps would be stuck there until releasing.
  • Fixed an issue where Warlocks were able to despawn a pet to gain a free "Soul Shard"in the Battlegrounds.
  • Warrior "Shield Slam" and "Shield Bash" will no longer trigger a proc from an equipped weapon.
  • Fixed an issue where players were able to consume a Mana Emerald at full mana.
  • The totem, "Wrath of Air," will no longer be useable in "Ghost Wolf" form.
  • Fixed an issue where Warrior "Battle Shout" was causing too much threat.
  • Fixed an issue where computers with ATi video cards were sometimes having problems when displaying a certain texture.
  • Fixed an issue where the Warlock spell "Death Coil" gained double the benefit from the talent "Shadow Mastery".
  • Player pets will no longer attack CC'ed targets while in Passive mode.
  • "Prayer of Spirit" will no longer cast on the user if there is no other target selected.
  • "Lightning Shield" will now have the appropriate cool-down time between uses.
  • Fixed an issue where materials were being consumed if a player logged out before an enchantment had finished being applied.
  • The Hunter, "Auto Shot," ability will no longer activate on resurrection.
  • Fixed a bug where "Inner Focus" was not being consumed when using "Mind Soothe."
  • Fixed a bug where Rogues were able to use the ability "Ghostly Strike" when not facing their target.
  • Warlock pet dismiss sounds will now play properly.
  • Fixed an issue where Fist weapons were sheathing improperly.
  • Bags will no longer overlap the Bank UI when the game window is resized.
  • Players will no longer be able to whisper to enemy players in Battlegrounds.
  • The Skeletal Gryphon ride for the Eastern Plaguelands PvP event will now fly at its correct speed.
  • Players will no longer be able to jump onto the top of the Dun Baldar Fortress in Alterac Valley and get behind the terrain to attack other players.
  • Shapeshifting will now break "Nogginfogger Elixir" effect.
  • You will no longer die when Feign Death is finished channeling.
  • "Scatter Shot" will now properly do damage even if the target is immune to the confuse effect.
  • "Aspect of the Cheetah" will now properly trigger with absorbed damage.
  • Casting a lower rank polymorph on a target that is already under the effect of a higher rank will cause an error message and not consume mana.
  • The talent, "Master of Elements," will now properly proc off of totems.
  • Players will no longer be attacked by same faction guards when using mind control on an enemy player to attack.
  • "Vanish" will now properly un-target the Rogue from the attacker when the attacker is in the same party.
  • The talent, "Improved Chain Heal," will now properly add to the base healing done.
  • "Healing Wave" Ranks 11 and 12 will now benefit from the Shaman talent, "Healing Way."
  • "Improved Curse of Agony" will now properly increase the base and spell power.
  • Warlocks will now be properly credited a Soul Shard from their pet when they take a flight path.
  • Warlocks will now be properly credited a Soul Shard from their pet when they are dead at the end of a Battleground match.
  • Warlocks will now be properly credited a Soul Shard from their pet when they enter an Arena.
  • Casting "Dark Pact" after exiting combat will no longer put you back in combat.
  • The tool tip for the "Great Staff of the Guardian" now shows the proper increase of 28 to the party spell critical rating.
  • Several Chest spawns in Dustwallow Marsh will now properly spawn above ground.
  • Items that can give +Stamina/Intellect from random suffixes will now properly apply while dead.
  • "Beastmaster's Gloves" will now give the proper 2% crit chance for Hunter pets.
  • Fixed a bug where you can end up with overlapping bags after resizing the  window.
  • Various graphical errors will be noticeable while viewing maps.
  Mac
  
• Added support for Multi-Threaded OpenGL on Intel Macs running OS X 10.4.8 or higher. Depending on hardware, scene and graphicalsettings, this can raise frame rates up to a factor of 2X.
• Improved video hardware detection and default settings, especially with  Intel video.
• Vertex Animation Shaders have been disabled for systems with Intel video.
• Improved iTunes key-binding feature for smoothness and track name display.
• Fixed a bug where Tutorial Tips would not be marked as viewed correctly  on PowerPC Macs.
• Fixed a rare crash bug in the audio code.
• Improved support for Weather Shaders.
• Added support for changing the mouse sensitivity in WoW. Previously, the Mac version ignored the value from the slider in the Interface Options dialog.

ta dude. Any word on the 'hidden changes' yet?

lol.. I pity the people who have been trying to get to rank 14 the last couple of weeks :lmfao:

Quote from: Nefertem;166696lol.. I pity the people who have been trying to get to rank 14 the last couple of weeks :lmfao:

Its the reason I stopped pvping weeks and weeks ago....

Didn't see anything in those patch notes about the new 40 debuff limit for pve - is it not happening now?

It's been replaced with a new feature that restricts all raids to one worlock only
 

QuoteWarlock: Warlocks will now be able to cast upto 40 debuff spells on one target, inlcuding multimple casts of the same spell. However to balance this feature only one Warlock will be permitted to join each raid group. This is to encourge fewer players to select the 'Easy Mode' option when rolling a character and to try a more challenging class.

Lol nice one Smilo :roflmao:

lol Smilo :roflmao:

Well, the realms are starting to pop back online as we speak, but I don't see Aszune on the list yet :sideways:

Ofc not.. Its Aszune we're talking about :flirty:

cummon Bob,
 
you know better than that, it wont be up for ages yet. Just gotta hope its up by 18:30 server time for when I get home

Yeb Bob...our 286 Server is not yet up :ranting2:

Doh! ..as always

Quote from: Aeus @ EU BoardsUpdate
On the below realms we expect the maintenance to be extended for an additional 2 hours, with a new ETA of 17:00. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

The affected realms:
English:
Agamaggan
Aggramar
Al'Akir
Arathor
Argent Dawn
Aszune
Azjol-Nerub
Bladefist
Bloodhoof
Bloodscalp
Burning Blade
Burning Legion
Crushridge
Daggerspine
Deathwing
Doomhammer
Draenor
Dragonblight
Dragonmaw
Dunemaul
Emerald Dream
Sunstrider
Twilight's Hammer
Warsong
Zenedar
 
French:
Archimonde
Cho'gall
Dalaran
Elune
Hyjal
Illidan
Kael'Thas
Kirin Tor
Ner'zhul
Sargeras
Sinstralis

Weee.. Blizz always manages to amaze me :rolleyes:

Well if you want further updates this is the official THREAD (http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=89460970&sid=1&pageNo=1)

As long as its up by the time I get home and can do my 30 mins on my treadmill....i'll be happy :P

As I said before.... if the trend is this our realm will be up december the 6th of 2007 :eyebrow:

Quote from: Aeus @ EU BoardsUpdate (17:05)
Unfortunately, on the below realms we expect the maintenance to be extended further by an additional 2 hours, making their new ETA 19:00 CET.
We sincerely apologise for any inconvenience caused.

The affected realms:
English:
Agamaggan, Aggramar, Al'Akir, Arathor, Argent Dawn, Aszune, Azjol-Nerub, Bladefist, Bloodhoof, Bloodscalp, Burning Blade, Burning Legion, Crushridge, Daggerspine, Deathwing, Doomhammer, Draenor, Dragonblight, Dragonmaw, Dunemaul, Emerald Dream, Sunstrider, Twilight's Hammer, Warsong, Zenedar

French:
Archimonde, Cho'gall, Dalaran, Elune, Hyjal, Illidan, Kael'Thas, Kirin Tor, Ner'zhul, Sargeras, Sinstralis

Lol - the time is now set to 19.00 CET

Did some one drop there coffee on the server again?

Quote from: sheepy;166776Did some one drop there coffee on the server again?

 
Nah they need to implant a new pacemaker into the hamster.

Now all realms are offline... I should have foreseen this as the US realms had a 6hrs delay! :eyebrow:

I make it a rule never to expect a game of WOW on any update day. It's not worth the frustration. See you all tomorrow :D

ETA now somewhere around midnight, can i hear a w000t Blizzard :ranting2:

Will go read a book, hope i dont fall asleep :yahoo:

great. midnight ETA.  im getting WOW withdrawal

Server up...sort of...

Up but stuck @ retriving character :ranting2:Blizzard:ranting2:

Been trying to download patch.  For some odd reason it says I don't have enough disk space.  I mean is patch like 50GB or something?  My pc says it has 45GB free to put whatever I want on to it.  So I doubt I'll be up and raiding by tomorrow.  Could possible be up and working by saturday if the other download doesn't work.  But it will mean a visit to my dads where all 4 verison of wow are updated at his house.  So unfair.

Damn thats a true original :D

Leesa, the patch is 700mb... :D

Tried to downlaod at 4am then decided to go to bed.  When I got up it was fully working.  Strange things these pcs are.  Just been respecing now leesa has no money.

isn't the respec free?

Quote from: Leesa;166856Been trying to download patch. For some odd reason it says I don't have enough disk space. I mean is patch like 50GB or something? My pc says it has 45GB free to put whatever I want on to it.

This counts for the drive where on WoW is installed....

1st one is free, until you fek it up or want to try all the new talent trees. Ive got 150g set aside just for that purpose :P

This is shiat... Ive got 3 characters I have to figure out a new build for!
Could get expensive!!

its simple for me i know how I wanna spec my warrior as the only thing I really do on my main is raid, so prot specced.
 
Priest is shadow, simple. use talents to get down to shadow form and then look at what else I want. (lvl 45)
 
Mage is frost. get target frozen in place as much as i can. (lvl 35)
 
hunter (pew pew pew arrarz) lvl 21
 
 
main problem for me is going to be getting my UI sorted in time for the raid with the nessacery mods

Quote from: Knabbel;166937This counts for the drive where on WoW is installed....

Yes I only have one drive.  I broke my over harddrive whilst my pc was being shipped to Germany so to make live simple I just now have the classic C drive

If you are experiencing LAG and loss of FPS after 2.0.1 try this:

Create a WDB folder inside your Cache folder, and then enGB folder \World of Warcraft\Cache\WDB\enGB.
Your enGB folder will get populated with:

creaturecache.wdb
 gameobjectcache.wdb
 itemcache.wdb
 itemnamecache.wdb
 itemtextcache.wdb
 npccache.wdb
 pagetextcache.wdb
 questcache.wdb
 wowcache.wdb

If this is not happening check World of Warcraft\Data if inside there you find an empty WBD folder just delete that.

ORIGINAL THREAD (http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2131)

more explained thingy:.

Dear Blizzard and Readers,

This post points out that after patch 2.0, without corrective action on the user's part, the client doesn't cache WDB files anymore. It explains how to solve the problem and why it's important to solve it.

Symptom

When logging in, every time, a lot of the items placed on the action bars are red question marks for a few seconds. Also, when opening a crafting profession's window for the first time, delay is observed in loading the icon for items and list of ingredients. Other symptoms that indicate that the client is not performing caching and has to query the server for data with each login session.

Explanation and Solution

The old WDB folder is now gone with patch 2.0. The client is supposed to cache data in the "World of Warcraft\Cache\WDB\" folder, where depends on your client language. It's enGB for EU English players. However, during a standard installation and patching scenario, only "World of Warcraft\Cache" folder gets created, and the client doesn't automatically create its subfolders. This means that the client never saves cache files.

To force WoW to start saving cache files, manually create a WDB subfolder in Cache, i.e. make sure that a folder named "World of Warcraft\Cache\WDB" exists. The client will take care of the rest, create the locale specific subfolder and start saving files.

Why this is important

For starters, this improves the game experience of the end-user. However, more importantly, with so many players, all the clients querying the server for information that was supposed to be cached could lead to additional load on the servers. Only Blizzard knows the significance or fraction of this additional load, but it's important that we as users do everything we can to reduce load on the servers.

Edit: It appears that this may be an issue only on the Windows client and not Mac


http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?pid=259253#p259253

Patch 2.0.3 Test realm is up :boxing:

did i miss read or you just sayed that new test realm is up??

No, no... you red well a new test realm for 2.0.3 is up :)

Quote from: Akall;169977Patch 2.0.3 Test realm is up :boxing:

Anything fun in there?

Hmmmm lvl 70 PvP gear, some new NPCs in cities like Eye of Storms battlemaster.

The talents Druids were ment to have in 2.0.1 .

This is what I saw in the 20 mins I was in there :D

nice,very nice hmm but is this char copy again or premade??

You can copy chars. It's up atm, so do it while you still can :narnar: .
 
I'm not sure about this, but I think the characters that where copied over last push are still there too.
 
Edit: I just checked, the chars that where copied over last push are still there.

The patch that's currently being tested at the PTR is pretty buggy.
 
Just to name a few:
-The chat and combat log boxes are messed up.
-My chat box is getting spammed with 'you're already in that channel' messages while I'm in a city.
-My sound dies if I select 'hardware acceleration'.
 
Meh :thumbsdownsmileyani . Something tells me they didn't even test it themselfs before they put it on the PTR.
 
 
The druid talents have been fix though (finally). Additionally they changed the following things:
-450% AC and +25% HP in bear.
-Mangle got buffed to +30% bleed and shred damage for 12 sec.
-You can now pounce from any side, so you no longer need to be behind your target.
-We got the new dodge formulae, so we dodge almost twice as much :D .
-The idols got nerfed up to a point where it's totally pointless to have them.
-We can talk to people in our forms now.
 
So now we're on par with the beta stuff.
 
I tried both feral and balance (Imagine me as a chicken :narnar: ).
 
Oomkin is still lacking imo. Although I only have 213 +damage (+100 more with trinkets) it takes ages to kill something. Starfire + moonfire, root -> run -> starfire -> root -> run -> repeat. Even if the target remains stationary I'm not doing more then 250-300 DPS.
 
Feral now owns even more. In cat you can easily do 350-400 DPS (unbuffed, on 58+ elite BS melee dragons) while facing the target and even more if you're behind it :norty: .
 
Bear DPS is noticably lower because of the idol nerf, but you take incredibly little damage now (360% AC -> 450% AC, +4% dodge talent and the new dodge fomulae). For me (unbuffed) that means +/- 13500 AC, 30% dodge, 31 +def and -3% crit. With raid buffs that basicly means (with my current gear) I only take about 15% of all incoming melee damage! Which is less then a warrior! Combine this with the druid's superior health and aggro generation ... . I have to say that this seems a bit awkward. Hopefully they buff prot warriors, this is just silly. Yes, I want druids to be good, but we aren't meant to be nr.1 at anything :unsure: .

theres a cap on dam reduction from armor...

Quote from: Gorion;170231theres a cap on dam reduction from armor...

I know, and we can both hit it. Druids get there sooner then warriors though, which causes druids to stop improving earlier. So a Naxx warrior is still > then any druid, but below that I'm not so sure. Most bosses do magic damage though, so there is no competition on that end. Warriors will still be the prefered tanks for most fights, but for certain melee bosses (like broodlord) it may be 'better' to use a well geared feral druid once the new patch arrives.

afaik there is no cap on armor, after a certain point you just need to much armor more to gain any benifit from it.

Quote from: Bastet;170239afaik there is no cap on armor, after a certain point you just need to much armor more to gain any benifit from it.

yep.. and thats a sortof "cap" by itself ;)
 
 
and then in the 2/3 expansion when welle have too much armor, theylle decrease armor by a certain %
 
(remeber the def nerf)

Quote from: Bastet;170239afaik there is no cap on armor, after a certain point you just need to much armor more to gain any benifit from it.

There is a cap, you can never reduce more then 75% of incoming melee damage with armor.
 
Against a level 63 mob you'll need 17265 AC to get that.
 
If you feel like experimenting:
-Find a lvl 20 mob, equip 6300-7000 armor and record the damage you took over a set amount of time.
-Do the same thing with 12000+ armor and compare the results.
You'll see that you took exactly the same amount of damage.
 
Btw, here is a nice calculator for calculating damage reduction: http://www.worldofwar.net/guides/damagereduction.php.
 
 
But it isn't true that you need more armor to gain benefit from it after a certain point either. Yes you get 'less' per point of armor, but the added time you'll live in a fight scales linearly. Consider the following:
 
Damage reduction gain per additional +2750 armor:
0 - 0.00 %
2750 = 33.33% | +33.33% (+2750 Armor)
5500 = 50.00% | +16.67% (+2750 Armor)
8250 = 60.00% | +10.00% (+2750 Armor)
11000 = 66.67% | +6.67% (+2750 Armor)
13750 = 71.43% | +4.76% (+2750 Armor)
16500 = 75.00% | +3.57% (+2750 Armor)
 
Time till death with 100 incoming DPS (if you have only 1000 HP):
0 = 0.00 % | 100.00 DPS | 10 sec
2750 = 33.33% | 66.67 DPS | 15 sec (+5 sec of life)
5500 = 50.00% | 50.00 DPS | 20 sec (+5 sec of life)
8250 = 60.00% | 40.00 DPS | 25 sec (+5 sec of life)
11000 = 66.67% | 33.33 DPS | 30 sec (+5 sec of life)
13750 = 71.43% | 28.57 DPS | 35 sec (+5 sec of life)
16500 = 75.00% | 25.00 DPS | 40 sec (+5 sec of life)
 
As you can see, you'll live exactly 5 seconds longer every time we add 2750 armor. While you receive less reduction per point it kind of remains 'as usefull', no matter how much you have (up to the 75% cap).