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Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: TeaLeaf on November 14, 2006, 09:32:11 AM
(lifted from World of Raids, credits to Pern & Teza)

Where do I start?
Apprentice through Artisan Jewelcrafting may ONLY be trained in Silvermoon City (Horde) and The Exodar (Alliance). This is of course subject to change, but at the moment plan on a trip to those cities. Master Jewelcrafting may be trained at Thrallmar (Horde) and Honor Hold (Alliance) in Hellfire Peninsula.

What do you need for Jewelcrafting?
Primarily, ore and gems. There are a few that use alchemy mats, a few that use enchanting mats, and a few that use assorted mob drops, but nothing in such quantity that it would merit taking a second profession other than mining.

Where can I use Jewelcrafting?
Anywhere, there are no fixed resources required (like a Forge or Moonwell). Most Jewelcrafting items require a Jeweler's Kit to produce, this is a trade item you can buy from nearly any Trade Goods vendor for 8s.

What can I make with Jewelcrafting?
As the flavor text specifies, you will learn how to cut precious gems and craft jewelry. Specifically, Jewelcrafting allows you to make rings, necklaces, trinkets, a few crowns, and socketable gems. This is a very unique profession in that it produces two types of gains, new gear for accessory slots and augmentation of existing gear. It's a hybrid between a production profession like tailoring and the service profession of enchanting.

How good are these accessories?
The obvious shining point of Jewelcrafting accessories is that accessories are traditionally rare to characters below level 30, so being able to create accessories customized for characters leveling up is wonderful. Past level 30, the Jewelcrafting gear is vastly outpaced by dungeon loot. Past 30, Jewelcrafting items seem to be at roughly a "quest reward" level, and as of yet there are no "ringers" that would warrant taking off dungeon loot for. I imagine this may be addressed at launch via rare designs and just more designs in general. Endgame Jewelcrafting is not about accessories though, it's all about the gems!

Which classes benefit most from Jewelcrafting?
Since accessories can be used by anyone, and there are gem cuts to augment virtually every stat, all classes benefit most from Jewelcrafting. There are necklaces with high attack power, rings with armor and defense, trinkets with mana regeneration, socketed gems with crit rating. This really is a unique profession in that it doesn't seem biased toward any class or role.

Which professions work well with Jewelcrafting?
I would strongly recommend picking up Mining if you plan on Jewelcrafting. The reason is threefold. First, it's cheaper. :) Second, your materials may be in short supply due to the greater demand and lesser portability of ore versus bars, and you can't do much with bars (I imagine the ore market will boost when the expansion is released, but overall the demand for bars comes from many sources, the demand for ore is exclusively on Jewelcrafting). Third, by mining you will find gems naturally on the nodes while mining in ADDITION to the gems you will get when you Prospect all of that ore, not to mention stones for statues.

If not mining, I might recommend Enchanting, as nearly everything you can produce as a Jewelcrafter is of at least Uncommon rarity, and in many cases isn't worth selling on the Auction House due to oversaturation. Since very little of it is Soulbound however, there's not much difference if you simply stick Enchanting on an alt.


What should I skill up on?
There are two major standbys for leveling Jewelcrafting, Stone Statues and Trade Goods.
Those practically worthless stones that drop from mining nodes are converted into Stone Statues for a cheap Renew (10 hp/s for 15s at the Rough level up to 50 hp/s for 15s at the Dense level) and cheap Jewelcrafting levels.
Trade Goods are mats required for some of your Jewelcrafting recipes that are made from base metals, very similar to the clothcrafting or engineering schema in that at the "Copper" level you use the "Delicate Copper Wire" trade good in almost everything you do, and it uses 2 Copper Bars. So this is an item you can make for cheap skill that you will use to gain more skill, and is one of the only times in Jewelcrafting that Bars will be more important than Ore. :)

What should I stockpile now to level Jewelcrafting?
As far as rare items at higher levels, you're pretty much on your own because the recipes could change at a moment's notice, but think about elemental essences and the like.

How high can I get with materials from Azeroth?
310, this is pretty much the same for all other professions as far as I've seen.

What is Prospecting?
Prospecting is a skill that can be trained at level 20 Jewelcrafting from any Jewelcrafting vendor. It grants the Prospecting ability in your ability book. In game text:

Prospecting

2 sec cast

Search 5 ore of a base metal for precious gems.  This will destroy the ore in the process.


The function is incredibly similar to Disenchant, it kills the ore but has a chance at returning materials used in your profession. In this case, gems.

What gems can be found with Prospecting?
From all testing so far, you can get any gem that is naturally found on the node of that ore type (eg Shadowgem from Copper, Citrine from Mithril, Azeorthian Diamond from Thorium, Flame Spessarite from Fel Iron)

Are there any restrictions to Prospecting
Two actually. First of all, as the description states you can only search ore of a base metal. This excludes noble metals such as Silver, Gold, Truesilver, Eternium, and Khorium (any ore with "green" rarity). Second, you must have Jewelcrafting skill roughly equivalent to the mining skill required to mine that ore (eg 175 for Mithril, 300 for Fel Iron, 350 for Adamantite)

I have a ton of gems, now what?
Below 300 Jewelcrafting skill, gems are only used as part of jewelry creations, and although you will need a lot of gems to skill up, they don't really take value until past 300.

Past 300, the Outland-exclusive gems can be "cut" into gems that can be added to socketable equipment.

Aren't socketable gems just portable enchants?
Gems are "portable" in the sense that a Jewelcrafter can cut a gem and sell it on the Auction House, but they have restrictions too. Gems can't be added to gear that does not have pre-existing sockets, enchants can be.

Can I stand in Orgrimmar all day cutting gems for people to make money?
While it is true that gems are significantly easier to acquire than enchanting materials, there is a cooldown imposed on gem cutting. From all testing so far, this cooldown appears to be 10 minutes for Uncommon gems and 60 minutes for Rare gems. I can easily see Jewelcrafters selling the ability to cut a gem though for this very reason, since your time is a premium and the recipes are rare.

How do I cut gems?
Gem cutting requires a gem, a recipe for the specific "cut" of gem you're aiming for, and a Simple Grinder, which is just a trade item found on nearly any trade goods vendor for 2g50s.

What does specific cut mean?
As mentioned in the Jewelcrafting preview, there is more than one way to cut each type of gem. For example, a Golden Draenite can be cut Brilliant (+6 Intellect), Gleaming (+6 Spell Critical Rating), Thick (+6 Defense Rating), Rigit (+6 Hit Rating), or Smooth (+6 Critical Strike Rating), and these are just the ones we know of so far. Every cut requires a different recipe, so you can imagine already how many potential recipes there are!

Where do I find these recipes?
In the alpha, a small selection of gem cutting recipes have been placed on the Master Jewelcrafters in Thrallmar and Honor Hold. In the release, these recipes are designed to be world drops. I imagine some of them will be vendor-bought, but the vast majority of gem cuts will be found in the world. Additionally, there are some blue gem recipes that have so far been found only in Nagrand.


Blue gems?
There are six "uncommon" (green rarity) Outland gems: Blood Garnet, Flame Spessarite, Deep Peridot, Golden Draenite, Shadow Draenite, and Azure Moonstone. They come with relatively similar and common drop rates from Fel Iron, Adamantite, and Khorium nodes, as well as Fel Iron and Adamantite prospecting. In addition to this, there are super rare blue (blue rarity) gems that are found the same way with an exceedingly lower drop rate, these gems tend to produce fabulous effects when cut.

What kind of effects?
From the limited number of rare recipes I have so far, the stat gain from rare gems is a very marginal increase over their uncommon equivalents. For example, the Brilliant Golden Draenite gives +6 Intellect, but the extraordinarily rare Brilliant Dawnstone, with an even more rare recipe drop, gives +8 Intellect.

Are rare gems really worth it then?
Absolutely! For the extra day of stripmining it takes you to find a Dawnstone, you can have 100 days of playtime with a piece of Tier 7 armor that has 2 more intellect than everyone else's. Understand that as a line item, the increase is not that significant, but when you consider that it is a bonus above and beyond everything else you have, getting the best gems you can for your gear will be crucial.

What is the best gem you've seen so far?

Brutal Earthstorm Diamond

+3 Melee Damage & Chance to Stun Target

Requires at least 5 Red gems and at least 5 Yellow gems and at least 5 Blue gems

"Only fits in a meta gem slot."



What does the 5 Red, Yellow, and Blue gems thing mean?
Good question.


  Gem Cuts known so far:


Cut      Color   Effect1      Effect2

Lustrous   Blue   Mana/5   

Solid      Blue   Stamina   

Sparkling   Blue   Spirit   

Stormy      Blue   Spell Penetration   

Dazzling   Green   Intellect   Mana/5

Enduring   Green   Stamina      Defense

Jagged      Green   Stamina      Critical Strike

Radiant      Green   Spell Penetration   Spell Critical

Brutal      Meta   Melee Damage   Chance to Stun

Destructive   Meta   Spell Critical   Spell Reflect

Glinting   Orange   Agility      Hit Rating

Inscribed   Orange   Strength   Critical Strike

Luminous   Orange   Intellect   Healing

Potent      Orange   Spell Critical   Spell Damage

Glowing      Purple   Stamina      Spell Damage

Royal      Purple   Mana/5      Healing

Shifting   Purple   Agility      Stamina

Sovereign   Purple   Strength   Stamina

Bold      Red   Strength   

Delicate   Red   Agility   

Runed      Red   Spell Damage   

Subtle      Red   Dodge   

Teardrop   Red   Healing   

Bright      Red   Attack Power   

Brilliant   Yellow   Intellect   

Gleaming   Yellow   Spell Critical   

Rigid      Yellow   Hit Rating   

Smooth      Yellow   Critical Strike   

Thick      Yellow   Defense   



Prospectable Ore list with Required Jewelcrafting Skill to Prospect:

Ore      Skill Requirement

Copper      20

Tin      50

Iron      125

Mithril      175

Thorium      225

Fel Iron   300

Adamantite   350


How to level your jewelcrafting fast!

Delicate Copper Wire         1-20          120 copper bars (make x60 for later on)
Prospect Copper                   20-50         150 copper ores
Bronze Setting                      50-70         40 bronze bars
Prospect Tin                         70-80         50 tin ore
Ring of Silver Might               80-110        60 silver bars
Heavy stone statue               110-120     100 heavy stone
Ring of Twilight shadows        120-130     20 Shadowgems, 20 bronze bars
Amulet of the moon              130-140      20 lesser moonstone, 10 bronze settings*
Golden Dragon Ring              140-150       10 Jade, 20 Gold Bars, 20 Delicate copper wire*
Mithril Filigree                       150-180       60 Mithril
Jade Eye                              180-200       20 Jade, 40 Elemental earth
Citrine Ring of Rapid Healing  200-210       10 citrine, 20 Elemental water, 20 Mithril ore
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: TeaLeaf on November 14, 2006, 09:35:50 AM
Follow Up Comments (summary):

says this giude is WITHOUT propecting...hope it helps

1- 45 :: Delicate Copper Wire (make 65 = 130 Copper Bars)
** 2x Copper Bars
-- 90x Copper Bars

46- 50 :: Tigerseye Band
** 1x Tigerseye, 1x Delicate Copper Wire
-- 5x Tigerseye, 5x Delicate Copper Wire

51- 60 :: Inlaid MAlachite Ring
** 2x Malachite, 2x Delicate Copper Wire
-- 20x Malachite, 20x Delicate Copper Wire

61- 80 :: Bronze Setting
** 2x Bronze Bar
-- 40x Bronze Bar

81-100 :: Simple Pearl Ring
** 1x Small Lustrous Pearl, 1x Bronze Setting, 2x Copper Bar
-- 20x Small Lustrous Pearl, 20x Bronze Setting, 40x Copper Bar

101-110 :: Ring of Silver Might
** 2x Silver Bar
-- 20x Silver Bar

111-130 :: Heavy Stone Statue
** 10x Heavy Stone
-- 200x Heavy Stone

131-150 :: Barbaric Iron Collar
** 8x Iron Bar, 2x Large Fang, 2x Delicate Copper Wire
-- 160x Iron Bar, 40x Large Fang, 40x Delicate Copper Wire

151-180 :: Mithril Filigree
** 2x Mithril Bars
-- 60x Mithril Bars

181-190 :: Solid Stone Statue
** 10x Solid Stone
-- 100x Solid Stone

191-200 :: Engraved Truesilver Ring
** 1x Truesilver Bar, 2x Gold Bar
-- 10x Truesilver Bar, 20x Gold Bar

201-210 :: Golden Ring of Power
** 4x Gold Bar, 1x Lesser Moonstone, 1x Jade, 1x Citrine
-- 40x Gold Bar, 10x Lesser Moonstone, 10x Jade, 10x Citrine

211-225 :: Aquamarine Signet
** 3x Aquamarine, 4x Flask of Mojo
-- 45x Aquamarine, 60x Flask of Mojo

226-230 :: Dense Stone Statue
** 10x Dense Stone
-- 50x Dense Stone

231-250 :: Thorium Setting (make 45 = 135 Thorium Bars)
** 3x Thorium Bar
-- 60x Thorium Bar

251-260 :: Ruby Pendant of Fire
** 1x Star Ruby, 1x Thorium Setting
-- 10x Star Ruby, 10x Thorium Setting

261-270 :: Truesilver Healing Ring
** 2x Truesilver Bar, 4x Heart of the Wild
-- 20x Truesilver Bar, 40x Heart of the Wild

271-280 :: Simple Opal Ring
** 2x Opal, 1x Thorium Setting, 2x Thorium Bar
-- 20x Opal, 10x Thorium Setting, 20x Thorium Bar

281-295 :: Sapphire Pendant of Winter Hight
** 1xSapphire, 2x Essence of Undeath, 1xEssence of Water, 1xThrorium Setting
-- 15xSapphire, 30x Essence of Undeath, 15xEssence of Water, 15xThrorium Setting

295-305 :: Emerald Lion Ring
** 2x Emerald, 1x Thorium Bar, 1x Thorium Setting
-- 20x Emerald, 10x Thorium Bar, 10x Thorium Setting

Ore Skill Requirement

Copper 20
Tin 50
Iron 125
Mithril 175
Thorium 225
Fel Iron 300
Adamantite 350
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Neff on November 14, 2006, 09:49:55 AM
3 wpn dmg AND stun? imbah : (
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Jamoe on November 14, 2006, 11:08:35 AM
I've found this quite usefull

http://www.wowwiki.com/Jewelcrafting_300_Skill_Guide
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: kregoron on November 16, 2006, 08:53:22 AM
i bet it says the same as the post you guys made...
but here is another lil post iwht a nicely made pdf
http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6244#6244
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: DarkAngel on November 16, 2006, 11:57:46 AM
I would stock up on these mats before the expansion as you know the prices will explode.
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Jamoe on November 16, 2006, 12:58:42 PM
Yea, i spent an hour mining copper and came back with 50 odd stacks. No ones has twigged yet as there as no competition.

I have most of what i need, a few more trips out minnig mithril and abit more thoruim ill almost have enough.
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Tanales on November 18, 2006, 03:03:15 AM
I can confirm that youll be able to start collect patterns for jewelcrafting in the patch prior to the expansion :)
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: ratatosk on November 30, 2006, 08:38:18 AM
Well Now i have almost all mats aswell...
Just one minor glitch i need to drop Engineering.. thats not good then it will become harder to obtain Thorium Shells:g:
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Jorgen on November 30, 2006, 08:55:18 AM
It will prob. be a better shell than Thorium shell at higher level ;)
Anyway, there's allways a handy engineer in the guild that might want to make some for you :)
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Tanales on December 01, 2006, 09:30:27 AM
rata lvl up an alt to have jewelcrafting, thats what i would do.
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: ratatosk on December 01, 2006, 12:18:11 PM
Yea but i dont really have the time.. but i have a secret Drood LvL 15 that i spend some time on:rolleyes:
So perhaps i go Jewel there not a bad thought
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Jamoe on February 02, 2007, 11:20:02 AM
My Jewel Crafting is at 201, all i need to get to 300 is 60 "Flask of Mojo", which I hope to gather tonight. (if anyone has any spare, think of poor Jamoe ;) )

Does anyone have any guides for getting to 375? If not I will just play it by ear and see how it goes.

I'll be open for business shortly :D
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Bob on February 02, 2007, 11:33:41 AM
Had some flasks laying with a bank character, so I just mailed you 24 Jamoe - hope it helps :)
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: ratatosk on February 02, 2007, 02:45:41 PM
I havent found a guide up to 375! but its real expensive to lvl fast. u get loads of Gemcutting design at 300 from ur GM in HH! it goes quite easy up to 350 then the Problem starts and it gets tuff and really Expensive!! Iam 365 ATM and Poor as hell!:rolleyes:
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: Jamoe on February 02, 2007, 02:56:51 PM
Quote from: Bob;175515Had some flasks laying with a bank character, so I just mailed you 24 Jamoe - hope it helps :)

massive help, thanks Bob :yahoo:, cuts my grinding down by 33% :)

Quote from: ratatosk;175547I havent found a guide up to 375! but its real expensive to lvl fast. u get loads of Gemcutting design at 300 from ur GM in HH! it goes quite easy up to 350 then the Problem starts and it gets tuff and really Expensive!! Iam 365 ATM and Poor as hell!:rolleyes:

cheers Rata, looks like it will take me some time. I take it past 350 you need the rare recipes/matts to progress.
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: sheepy on February 02, 2007, 04:29:15 PM
im in the same boat as you guys, Having not pld on sheepeh recently I havnt been lvling jewelcrafting. I think im up around the 200/220 mark at the moment. I need to get back on a do some more really, buit ive just been working on lvling sheepher. nearly ready to go thru the dark portal! just need a bit of help with anyone who has some other lvl 60's hanging around and then i can get on with the race to 70
Title: Jewelcrafting FAQ
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 03, 2007, 12:29:52 AM
We have a number who are Dark Portal attuned and currently you can complete the Dark Portal quest by joining the instance of a group that has just completed it.  For example we ran a group tonight through Dark Portal just for the Keepers of Time rep (all had already completed the quest) and it is easy to join that party, zone in and talk to Medivh.  The result is about 8,000 rep with Keepers of Time!  If you want to do the quest itself then you will need a very good group, capable of delivery sustained and high DPS to deal with the adds and with sufficient tanking and healing to cope with the mortal strike boss in wave 12.  A balanced and well-geared group is therefore essential - we have found feral druid for tank, priest, pallie and either 2 mages/warlocks (or substitute a rogue or DPS warrior  for one) works very well.  Mage/Warlock kills the adds, the rest DPS the 18 bosses.

TL.