ok id like to know why every one wantes to join genesis...:g: is it really so good to be a stranger in a new guild and start makeing a new raiding guild with new strat and stuff then with your old guild(SoG) where you aint a stranger and you konw all the tactic's .....:boxing: and why are you so sure that genesis will do what they say and raid in TBC and will be leading guild in TBC..:g: if im not mistakening we could be the leading guild in TBC if ppl wont leave us and raid/lvl(in TBC) with us and get better armor for lvl 60-62 instance's....:yahoo: :dribble: :boxing: so comon ppl stay in SoG and we will be the guild that is stronger than other's in every way.:yahoo: :yahoo: :norty:
sry for this long post tho:sideways:
And not to count that Genesis is becomming day after day SoG RG1? So, actually you change Guild Name but not guild....is that an intelligent thing? :g:
being new to SOG but not to dMw, I'm a tad confuessed. people seem to be leaving becuase of what might happen.:blink: not very dmw.
hold it together people
:yahoo: :dmw: :dmw: :yahoo:
Quote from: Armitage;170201being new to SOG but not to dMw, I'm a tad confuessed. people seem to be leaving becuase of what might happen.:blink: not very dmw.
hold it together people
:yahoo: :dmw: :dmw: :yahoo:
Excatly, why leave because of somthing that might happen. Nothing has happend yet. Why leave?
The only reason i would leave SoG is, if i where to quit wow, or that SoG could not function the way it is.
for the ppl asking, why genesis..
its mene/vores guild, theres also torir etc
those are all ex sog rg1 , so the tactics are the same, they also know most of the people there
Yes, ok Mene and others there, but why they built another guild? I don't see any viable reason to create another guild when there is SoG that is a top raiding guild in a very nice social environment! Bah, maybe I'm just too stupid to get it :sad:.
Quote from: Armitage;170201being new to SOG but not to dMw, I'm a tad confuessed. people seem to be leaving becuase of what might happen.:blink: not very dmw.
hold it together people
:yahoo: :dmw: :dmw: :yahoo:
i would never leave dMw! :D im still apart of the fantastic CS:S section, boomer is my second home as some know :D
Quote from: Gorion;170206for the ppl asking, why genesis..
its mene/vores guild, theres also torir etc
those are all ex sog rg1 , so the tactics are the same, they also know most of the people there
Vell Vore is in Anything now btw. But he was one of the founding fathers of Genesis.
Quote from: jantore;170209Vell Vore is in Anything now btw. But he was one of the founding fathers of Genesis.
Yes atm hes in Anything working with them to kill Kelthusad, but he will return to Genesis in due time
The reason for creating your own guild is because you can set your own rules/values. And if people don't live up by the rules you can point them out to the consequences. What many many many people still don't understand is that (if you want to prospere and be one of the top guilds/RG's) this game isn't pac man.There is no PAUSE button in this game..... It takes commitment, dedication etc. Not like, oh well I can get away with it by no showing up etc.
Now this isn't a post to point out to people, but see it like a group starting to do scholo and after 20min someone says... I gotta go...dinner... *** why start in the first place then.......
I can't say it enough, dedication, show up every single time ......only then you can be one of the top guilds/RG's.
And if you think you cannot meet the requirements of the raid group, don't join in the first place........ Save you from a bad feeling being demoted and us from getting further.....
Its not that they dont like SoG.
TBC is just a "great" oppurtunity to try raiding in other ways, to see raiding from another perspectives.
And honestly have you expected anything else since it only requires 25 to raid now??
why cant ppl just wish them luck and focus on what "we" are gonna do in TBC instead of spending so meny posts and energy in flaming. Its their game, its teir desicion.
At the end of the day, its turning into SoG RG1, only with a different name. The same problems they faced here will face them there - a new name won't inspire people to change their behaviour.
you heard the man....
yrth im not saying that they are mother****** for leaving the guild ...ofc i will honor there decison:) i just wanted to know why they leave to go to genesis when its almost all SoG ppl in there and they will face the same prob's as they face'd them here and make a new guild with same ppl in it...that's the thing i just dont get
well, genesis is going to be a TBC raid guild yes, and beleive it or not there are more ppl in it than just SOG rg1. there will also be some righteous, danu and others, but a lot of the people were at some point in SOG. whats different is the way things will be done.
everyone there already knows each other pretty much in one way or another, and everyone wants to step it up a bit. changes were going to happen for tbc anyway, and some people want to try something new. maybe you should look at what ISNT in genesis compared to sog when you say "it wont solve problems"
Quote from: Lucian;170219At the end of the day, its turning into SoG RG1, only with a different name. The same problems they faced here will face them there - a new name won't inspire people to change their behaviour.
Lucian, first of all, the amount of people in Genesis yes is a lot of RG1 but not everyone, some are X soggy's, some are from different guilds.
Whoever told you the problems we had that made us leave was entirely a SoG issue was wrong, i myself left to start over, try something new, with some new people and some old, a fresh start.
Genesis has a completely different guild/raiding structure then SoG, not that i hated sog's at all and you know that! But its always fun to try out something new.
So please dont keep judging the people that left for Genesis. Its their game, its their decission, to make a change in their game.
aye the reason in to have fun and play with firends..
thats why meny leave guilds and create new ones.
FFS!! Was almost finished with a rather lengthy post, when I "decided" to close my browser.... :frusty: :doh:
Here goes another try..
Anyways, I understand that some ppl want to get a fresh start to a fresh game, (TBC) with a tight bunch of ppl they know are dedicated, and consider friends.
To some SoG probably has changed alot, from being a closely-knit group, ready to take on some challenges together, to a big mumblejumble of ppl they don't really know.
So to form a group of dedicated ppl of whom they know quite a few, sharing the same dedication and ambition, is to me highly understandable.
That could likely go for me as well.
But as to what I have in plans, I don't really know. I'll wait and see how things develop, and what my alternatives will be at the time.
I've never been really good at forming close "relationships" in WoW, probably 'coz im not chatting, whispering a whole lot.
The ppl I feel I know best, is mostly the Danes from the former NG guild, who joined SoG to form RG2. And that is because i now and then get on the VT server to say hello.
If all of them left for something else, and I was sitting behind with a bunch of ppl I pretty much only knew the names of from raidchat, ofc I would seriously consider moving with them, if I was given the opportunity ofc.
But for the time being, I'm definately staying in SoG, but I will not and can not promise I'll stay FOREVER.
It's all comes down to how things will develop in TBC.
Hope I made sense here.. Was typing rather fast, from the top of my head.. :)
well i can only say to you good luck in wow and have fun ...well its really is a game and the point of game is to have fun so have fun and i hope you will have a great time in TBC with genesis and you to SoG good luck with all your raiding/lvling or if you will split up(plz don't do it)good luck to all to find there happynes and fun again in wow:clap: :yahoo: :D :cheers: :bye2:
Impressive ammount of smilies in this thread, and there seems to be some text in here somewhere :g:
Now, i probs dont have much to do in this thread, but i know quite alot about this new genesis guild and their reasons for starting it since i talk quite alot with kregoron (my brother) and this pretty much happened to my own guild aswell.
It's obvious many SoG do not understand why so many RG1 are leaving, this can be somehow explained if i copy paste something from my own writeup when we split up in my old guild, Mortalis. Atleast, this is afaik also how many of the members from RG1 felt when they left.
I'll be leaving Mortalis along with a bunch of other people. Now I know there's quite some time to TBC left, but it wouldn't be "fair" to not make our plans clear asap. We're doing this because we want to try and create a small TBC guild. I'm personally both looking forward to it, but also sad because there's simply not room for everyone who's in Mortalis atm.
We really dont want to leave behind the people we have worked hard with and befriended, almost everyone contributed to Mortalis, but we felt that the way the guild currently works is not a construction we can blindly take into TBC and be a succesful guild there. Blizzard has forced many guilds to review their structure as we downsize from 40 to 25, this is completely unfair on those who have to choose their future in wow and what they want from the game. For us, hardcore raiding, progress and no compromise is what we aim to achieve in our new guild.
We would rather start anew with our ideas and our ways, without having to radically change Mortalis to our way.[/U]
The last thing is very important cos I guess thats pretty much exactly what the ppl who left for Genesis was thinking!
Quote from: kregoron;170227Lucian, first of all, the amount of people in Genesis yes is a lot of RG1 but not everyone, some are X soggy's, some are from different guilds.
Whoever told you the problems we had that made us leave was entirely a SoG issue was wrong, i myself left to start over, try something new, with some new people and some old, a fresh start.
Genesis has a completely different guild/raiding structure then SoG, not that i hated sog's at all and you know that! But its always fun to try out something new.
So please dont keep judging the people that left for Genesis. Its their game, its their decission, to make a change in their game.
I don't think you'll find any judgement there Kregoron, everybody is free to do whatever they like - including making fresh starts.
Quoteok id like to know why every one wantes to join genesis...:g: is it really so good to be a stranger in a new guild and start makeing a new raiding
It's not a stranger guild. Most of the people thats left have been with Mene/vore/Torir since the start, or since they came.
Obviously theese 3 are "loved" in sog, when they left because of a misunderstanding(or an rule i cant remember) alot of ppl were thinking "WHy bother?" because they werent in the guild.
Well, I guess mene/vore etc can get alot of ppl to come join them in their guild.
But Im fairly sure that their guild will be a screw up without comparison.
They are dreamers, oh yes they are. They all have their opinions and how they can make things better. Im fairly sure they dont know how to handle things once they are the ones that have to consider everyones` demands and wishes when it comes to raiding.
The idea of putting together a guild basing it only by 2 things, they are "good" players and they have alot of time playing wow.
The fact that every player in Genesis doesnt have anything other to do than to poke at their pimples and ignoring school besides playing makes them all screwups that cant exist in a structured guild society. So they make their own society, a society of pimple nerds (not the educated nerd, just the screw-school-play-games nerd). This not only drastically reduces the social part of the game (Well, I guess the PTA meetings will be some kind of RL social life) but it narrows things down to such a elitist "I am number one" kind of guild that everyone in the guild will compete both on damage/healing terms but also on being the boi with the most support in the guildies. This guild will just be a series of military coups(spelling?).
You Genesis guys are singing "booooorn to be wiiiihahahaiiiild" but on your own you are just "born to have your mum pick your clothes forever".
You cant do **** on your own and it is a waiting catastrophe. The feeling that gets some guys to gather in some kind of elitist guild is thinking "omg I AM LEET". Well, you should stick to playing tic-tac-toe because wqinning or loosing is all you care about. freaks.
well,finally, I just want to state that I dont remember what I was going to write about, since I am drunk.
Why dont ya put it on the Aszune forum m8? :roflmao:
I am with you troughout most of it, Adu. But just want to say that not all the people who left to join Genesis are "freaks" as you kindly say :P
Im sorry addy but you really should get a clue before you post things like that. Youd only have to look at the introductions thread on the genesis forum to see that out of all the pimple faced nerds theres only three or four that are actually still in school.
I dont think you even know WHO is joining Genesis. I dont think some of your old friends from home would take to kindly to what you said.
You didnt get a single thing right in that post. It's not even mene and vore's guild. Genesis isnt an "elitist" guild any more than SOG RG1 was an elitist guild a year ago. The majority of people in Genesis are old friends from around that time.
Honestly, you shouldnt posting rants about things that you have no clue, and no concern about. You sound like an ass.
What is the URL to the Genesis forum? As I bet none of us has seen it :)
I would like for everyone to calm down, while i dont like this many ppl going for genesis, i would still very much like to keep them as friends, not enemys, and ask that all of you threat members of genesis with the respect they should have earned from you, after raiding with us for the better part of the game since launch. Ppl pay for this game, and should be intitled to thier own choises, eventhough those might not be preferd by you.
Calm down, and lets get on with playing as we want too, ppl will come and go, as they have done for a long while.
Quote from: Adularena;170704Well, I guess mene/vore etc can get alot of ppl to come join them in their guild.
But Im fairly sure that their guild will be a screw up without comparison.
They are dreamers, oh yes they are. They all have their opinions and how they can make things better. Im fairly sure they dont know how to handle things once they are the ones that have to consider everyones` demands and wishes when it comes to raiding.
The idea of putting together a guild basing it only by 2 things, they are "good" players and they have alot of time playing wow.
The fact that every player in Genesis doesnt have anything other to do than to poke at their pimples and ignoring school besides playing makes them all screwups that cant exist in a structured guild society. So they make their own society, a society of pimple nerds (not the educated nerd, just the screw-school-play-games nerd). This not only drastically reduces the social part of the game (Well, I guess the PTA meetings will be some kind of RL social life) but it narrows things down to such a elitist "I am number one" kind of guild that everyone in the guild will compete both on damage/healing terms but also on being the boi with the most support in the guildies. This guild will just be a series of military coups(spelling?).
You Genesis guys are singing "booooorn to be wiiiihahahaiiiild" but on your own you are just "born to have your mum pick your clothes forever".
You cant do **** on your own and it is a waiting catastrophe. The feeling that gets some guys to gather in some kind of elitist guild is thinking "omg I AM LEET". Well, you should stick to playing tic-tac-toe because wqinning or loosing is all you care about. freaks.
well,finally, I just want to state that I dont remember what I was going to write about, since I am drunk.
Jesus christ m8, Ive always thought you as a good m8 and i respected you!, and now this.
Seriously you disappoint me! This was prolly the lowest ive ever expected from anyone on the server...
So you call me a freak and looser! Thx i now know who i like i sog and who i dont.
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Quote from: Nefrion;170709:withstupid: Why dont ya put it on the Aszune forum m8? :roflmao:
why dont you?
Quote from: Adularena;170704I dont remember what I was going to write about, since I am drunk.
Well, at least getting to the very last sentence explains the inappropriate vitriol. Please, do not post when you're drunk Adu, you know it makes you screwy.
TL.
Quote from: Sinap;170722why dont you?
Because this forum is for SoG only?:norty:
Put the mouse down and step away from the keyboard.
Quote from: Officer BarbraidyMove along folks, nothing to see here......
Quote from: Nefrion;170728Because this forum is for SoG only?:norty:
but adu isnt in sog?
stepping away!
Quote from: TeaLeaf;170729Put the mouse down and step away from the keyboard.
Please everyone.........let's take a break.
TL.
First of all sorry TL for not stepping away but when you get home from a long work day and you read that well the feeling you get is not very pretty.
Adu i would rly want to know what you heard cause i think you missed about everything that could be guesssed right.
Also you say mene and vore have no idea what to do. Hmm it might be the case that more ppl are invilved with leading it. You never know do you (and you wont with that kinda attitude).
Your sig says: Got something to say? Then say it to _me_.
Well i think you just f***** up a lot of ppl with that, you might not care but your post and some ppl reactions here make me almost glad i left SOG.
You say you are social well guess thats been proven wrong. (for a minority of the SOG ppl thank god).
Also if you want a conversation do your research and come with arguments that make sense not FU loosers. nerds etc. You only **** ppl off with that.
As last i hope a majority of SOG stays a good guild where you can talk to ppl without feeling you get flamed.
Lunares.
PS Adu i was an officer in SOG and know till i left what the status was unlike you and i know what genesis plans, so stop thinking you know everything.
PSS: This is not meant for the majority of SOG, i know a lot of you and i think youre not like this.
i'm new to the SOG section, but i think we all need to Hug
:huggy: :huggy: :huggy:
:dmw: :cheers:
Addy wont be able to read it, as his access to the closed part of the forums have been revoked as of this afternoon. Last said on this topic, thread locked.
Edit, on second thought, Armitage's idea is a good one :huggy: