In Shattrath City, you have to choose faction between the Aldor and the Scryer.
There is this page at WoWWiki (http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards) that has gathered and compared some info about the two. It had a table with some "general" recommendations at the top, and for me as a feral druid (I'm a leather worker too btw) it said Scryer.
But as I read further down on the page, I didn't get all convinced, so now I stand here in doubt, not sure which way would be the better one to take.
Do some of you have any good hints? And what have the rest of you guys chosen?
Great site thanks bob, i have still to choose, so this will make life eazyer!
As for LWing plans the ones you dont pick you can buy for marks (ready made products) you earn with one of the other factions i think.
Looked it over, and it looks like Aldor, mainly cause i fancy the shoulder enchants more.
Nice.
I randomly selected aldor. after a brief look at the vendors.
It apears that i selected correctly, im with aldor
I think im going for Aldor with Nefertem and Scryer with Livtraser (mage)..
Im going for Aldor with my Warrior.. :)
:D I'm wilth the Aldor too.. nice staff nice ench... I will lose an Alchemy Recipe tho :sideways:
I'm bumping this, since it looks like the site I linked in my first post (http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards) as been updated with some stuff that was missing the first time I browsed it (do a refresh, and perhaps also skip browser cache, just to make sure you get everything).
I've been looking a bit more on the various stuff you can get from both factions, and as a feral druid and leather worker I think I'm leaning more and more towards Aldor (even though that table at the beginning of the page says opposite for feral, which I don't really agree with).
But are there more armor/weapons/recipes/etc. you can get from the two factions than what is described on that site?
I have no idea what I'm gonna pick. I would really like the Scryer enchants but at the same time I would really like the Aldor Alchemy Recipe... Have no clue what I will pick.
Anyways, I fell over this quote from the Unofficial forums:
QuoteYou can still do quests for the opposite side. You can hand in tokens to farm rep aswell.
There is a friendly Scryer npc in Low Town (regardless of what rep you have with Scryers) who will give you quests that you can turn into her.
You can also hand in tokens to her aswell once you've completed the quest lines.
The effect of "choosing" a side is simply a headstart with regards rep. You can build up the rep of the opposite side all the way to Exalted if you wish with the drawback being you start from Hostile instead of Friendly. The adverse effect is simply reducing your Aldor reputation relative to your Scryer's increased.
So, in short, you've bitten yourself on the toe but not all is lost ^^.
hmm tank + fury is aldor imo
The blue caster staff for the Aldor is lovely, but the Scryer enchants are virtually identical and they have an alchemy recipe too - basically it boils down to how long will that staff last me, and I'm pretty sure there will be just as good items from the end-game raiding in TBC.
So right now I'm thinking Scryer is the way to go....
As a melee DPS Shammy I went with Scryers. They have a very nice dagger, plus i'm an alchemist and they have a good recipe too.
BTW: Dual wielding 2x fast 1h-ers (daggers normally, but at the mo i'm going with 2x [item]Grunt's Waraxe[/item], as it's attack speed it quite high) with windfury applied to both rocks! When I add in stormstrike and a couple of earth shocks i'm out dpsing the mage in our group, similarly geared for his class. I thought mages were supposed to be the highest damage dealers?
Quote from: Carr0t;174212BTW: Dual wielding 2x fast 1h-ers (daggers normally, but at the mo i'm going with 2x [item]Grunt's Waraxe[/item], as it's attack speed it quite high) with windfury applied to both rocks! When I add in stormstrike and a couple of earth shocks i'm out dpsing the mage in our group, similarly geared for his class. I thought mages were supposed to be the highest damage dealers?
Well they should do a bit more damage, but skill > class. Just the other day I was doing a blood furnace run with my temporary crappy green BoE gear and I was nr.1 DPS with 34%, eventhough I wasn't doing much at the part with the technicians (melee and mines don't mix well :narnar: ). Both the mage and the hunter did less damage. It doesn't prove that my class has more damage potential, but mearly that the other DPS-ers in the group weren't trying hard enough. The same goes for shammy vs mage, when both are 'equally' geared and are played well, a mage
should do more damage then a shammy.
As for the Aldor vs Scryer thing. It's nice that that website summarizes the patterns, items and enchants you can get, but I don't really agree with the 'class X should go for ...' part. You can't see feral druids as one thing for example, cat and bear are far apart and both require totally different gear.
Well yeah, but i'd always considered this mage to be pretty damn good. He's our guild leader, and used to be the MC raid leader when we were part of a larger group.
Mind you, he had been drinking a little ;)
Quote from: Carr0t;174257Mind you, he had been drinking a little ;)
Well that explains it :narnar: .
NO IT DOESNT!!!!!!
When im drunk and playing on my mage i do more damage. generally coz i dont care about pulling agro and just nuke EVERYTHING!
Btw, does the decision Aldor vs. Scryer have any other influences? Like the rewards for the quests they offer. Sometimes quest rewards can be pretty important, like the UBRS trinkets were for example. Or is the vendor stuff the only thing they're for and don't they offer any other quest except the repeatable rep-grind ones?
I did choose Aldor
Thought is was way better for my little lockie :dribble:
Quote from: Mazii;174116IAnyways, I fell over this quote from the Unofficial forums:
QuoteYou can still do quests for the opposite side. You can hand in tokens to farm rep aswell.
There is a friendly Scryer npc in Low Town (regardless of what rep you have with Scryers) who will give you quests that you can turn into her.
You can also hand in tokens to her aswell once you've completed the quest lines.
The effect of "choosing" a side is simply a headstart with regards rep. You can build up the rep of the opposite side all the way to Exalted if you wish with the drawback being you start from Hostile instead of Friendly. The adverse effect is simply reducing your Aldor reputation relative to your Scryer's increased.
So, in short, you've bitten yourself on the toe but not all is lost ^^.
This is from the 2.0.6 patch notes:
Players will no longer be given access to both quest lines followingthe Declaration of Allegiance to the Scryers or Aldor in Shattrath City.I guess that will make it a bit harder to gain rep with both factions :g:
Thats something else bob, after you choose you got the quests for both leaders, the seer and the high shaman, if i understood correct you only get the option of your own faction now.
Yeah, the idea I think was not to 'Make it harder', but to stop it completely. They wanted people to have to make a choice between the two rather than be able to play the numbers and be able to get all the gear from both.
Quote from: Carr0t;174624Yeah, the idea I think was not to 'Make it harder', but to stop it completely. They wanted people to have to make a choice between the two rather than be able to play the numbers and be able to get all the gear from both.
We were never able to gain rep for both at the same time, if you do a quest for one faction your rep would go down with the other. Switching sides is still possible, but involves a lot of grinding. It isn't Blizzards intention to restrict people.
I know it's obvious, but it would be handy to have leatherworkers, blacksmiths and tailors on both sides, because the vendors offer patterns for our new resistance gear (Aldor = fire, Scryers = arcane). We'll probably need those for the new raid dungeons.
Any idea what might be the best for holy palla.... I wasn't impressed by the items from Scry.....
D.
Quote from: Knabbel;175271Any idea what might be the best for holy palla.... I wasn't impressed by the items from Scry.....
D.
Then go for Aldor....... :blink: