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Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Rad_Man on May 02, 2003, 04:11:04 PM
Please vote for the best one
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Dr Sadako on May 02, 2003, 04:19:24 PM
Vodoo child  :P
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Rad_Man on May 02, 2003, 04:21:36 PM
Venue? I couldn't put this one in cause i forgot....opps , soz Jimi
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: sheepy on May 02, 2003, 05:36:12 PM
voodochild at woodstock, by far and away his best ever tune, goes on for about 9 mins or summin like that, so many oncores and solos, it rocks
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: OldBloke on May 02, 2003, 05:41:51 PM
Never liked Hendrix.  :oops:

I know, I know. But I really didn't rate him at all.

Now David Gilmour ... when he plays he makes the hairs on the back of my neck do the conga.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Gandalf on May 02, 2003, 05:43:01 PM
Quote

Now David Gilmour ... when he plays he makes the hairs on the back of my neck do the conga.

 8)  oh yes. Comfortably Numb. IMHO his best solo. Ever.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: OldBloke on May 02, 2003, 05:44:52 PM
Quote ... Comfortably Numb. IMHO his best solo. Ever.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 02, 2003, 06:04:11 PM
There's no button for JH was a talentless hippy twat that really shouldn't have bothered?
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: sheepy on May 02, 2003, 06:05:59 PM
u need linching
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on May 02, 2003, 06:21:41 PM
QuoteJH was a talentless hippy twat that really shouldn't have bothered?
Wasnt that what Ted Nugent said as he was pissing on his grave

As for me i like the guy...and like him or not a wonderfull guitar player
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Dingo on May 02, 2003, 09:38:47 PM
All along the Watchtower!!
Title: NAHHH
Post by: SLoWHaND on May 02, 2003, 10:41:05 PM
Sorry fellas its gotta be E.C.
Blows J.H. away

But Purple Haze was a good try :D


SLoWHaND  :wink:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: sheepy on May 02, 2003, 10:46:57 PM
im just w8ing for rad to edit this so that zoodo child is in there
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Zok on May 03, 2003, 01:55:25 AM
hey joe 8)
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: TeaLeaf on May 03, 2003, 08:46:57 AM
Quotehey joe 8)
No, it was 'Hey Jude'  :wink:

TL.  8)
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Zok on May 03, 2003, 01:15:15 PM
[1st verse [Oo-backing vocals on each line]]
Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand?
Hey Joe, I said where you goin' with that gun in your hand?
Alright. I'm goin down to shoot my old lady,
you know I caught her messin' 'round with another man.
Yeah,! I'm goin' down to shoot my old lady,
you know I caught her messin' 'round with another man.
Huh! And that ain't too cool.

[2nd verse [Ah. -backing vocal on each line]]
Uh, hey Joe, I heard you shot your woman down,
you shot her down.
Uh, hey Joe, I heard you shot you old lady down,
you shot her down to the ground. Yeah!

Yes, I did, I shot her,
you know I caught her messin' 'round,
messin' 'round town.
Uh, yes I did, I shot her
you know I caught my old lady messin' 'round town.
And I gave her the gun and I shot her!

Alright
(Ah! Hey Joe)
Shoot her one more time again, baby!
(Oo)
Yeah.
(Hey Joe!)
Ah, dig it!
(Hey)
Ah! Ah!
(Joe where you gonna go?)
Oh, alright.

[3rd verse]
Hey Joe, said now,
(Hey)
uh, where you gonna run to now, where you gonna run to?
Yeah.
(where you gonna go?)
Hey Joe, I said,
(Hey)
where you goin' to run
to now, where you, where you gonna go?
(Joe!)
Well, dig it!
I'm goin' way down south, way down south,
(Hey)
way down south to Mexico way! Alright!
(Joe)
I'm goin' way down south,
(Hey, Joe)
way down where I can be free!
(where you gonna...)
Ain't no one gonna find me babe!
(...go?)
Ain't no hangman gonna,
(Hey, Joe)
he ain't gonna put a rope around me!
(Joe where you gonna..)
You better belive it right now!
(...go?)
I gotta go now!
Hey, hey, hey Joe,
(Hey Joe)
you better run on down!
(where you gonna...)
Goodbye everybody. Ow!
(...go?)
Hey, hey Joe, what'd I say,
(Hey.......................Joe)
run on down.
(where you gonna go?)
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: SecretSquirrel on May 03, 2003, 01:40:29 PM
QuoteNever liked Hendrix. :oops:

I know, I know. But I really didn't rate him at all.

Now David Gilmour ... when he plays he makes the hairs on the back of my neck do the conga.

If hes does that to the hairs on the back of your neck what does he do to your pubes  :lol:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: SecretSquirrel on May 03, 2003, 01:42:38 PM
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Quotehey joe 8)
No, it was 'Hey Jude'  :wink:

TL.  8)[/b]

i thought it was

Oi you :roll:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: albert on May 03, 2003, 04:46:09 PM
I prefer the version of Hey Joe from Winterland. Superb real heavy guitar version.  8)
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 04, 2003, 01:26:17 PM
Machine Gun - surely one of the greatest guitar solos ever
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 05, 2003, 07:47:49 PM
Surely one of the greatest examples of a self indulgent pointless hippy ego trip.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: OldBloke on May 05, 2003, 07:59:11 PM
Sheepy - I deleted your reply.

Chill.  8)
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: sheepy on May 05, 2003, 08:03:22 PM
why
i didnt swear
i was very polite
i just pointed put why he shouldnt diss music he doesnt like, i was in a bit of a rage about his post, probably coz im pissed, but i dont think i was offensive or any thjink., afaik
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: OldBloke on May 05, 2003, 08:08:23 PM
Quotewhy i didnt swear

Yep. You did.

Quotei was very polite

Nope. You weren't.


Quotei just pointed put why he shouldnt diss music he doesnt like, i was in a bit of a rage about his post, probably coz im pissed, but i dont think i was offensive or any thjink., afaik

This is a forum mate. Open to all to express their opinions (within reason). If you disagree with someone's POV then either argue the toss properly or ignore it.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Rad_Man on May 06, 2003, 10:30:43 AM
Right - If you dont like jimi (may god have mercy on ya souls) then thats cool!!!!! ya dont understand or feel the power.

Right apologies for the following

voodoo chile(slight return) - woodstock excellent choice sheepster.

Hey Joe - Winterland - exellent choice (scotsman living in england)

All Along the watchtower - Dingo Which live version are you putting forth , he never really got this working live - but man some of the effects he got out of that guitar while trying was awesome.

Oldbloke - David Gilmour was a different style of guitar man - clean awesome control of notes and chords that defines what is "Pink Floyd". I love the floyd and "Shine on you crazy diamond" parts ALL was an inspiration and a joy to listen to. I also love the album "Animals" pigs , sheep and goats - fits in well with our clan member naming system!!!?

Smilodon - ?? it saddens me that one in our midst is vehemently opposed to musical inspiration and the power in live improvisation through the medium of electric guitar .... Jimi Hendrix "A Legend that will live forever in time"
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Dingo on May 06, 2003, 11:10:04 AM
Quote)

All Along the watchtower - Dingo Which live version are you putting forth , he never really got this working live - but man some of the effects he got out of that guitar while trying was awesome.

Rad,
         never been heavily into Hendrix but I can appreciate a genius when I see one!!. Believe it was the IOW gig I saw on TV way back in the 70's and I was blown away!!  8)  :D
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Rad_Man on May 06, 2003, 11:27:48 AM
yep that was a good one, early on in the song he wasn't happy with the sounds that were coming out and he vented a bit of anger then he just blazed in all hendrix glory. Also outstanding version of machine gun followed and finished with "In from the storm" where he threw his guitar down and said "God bless and all that other good bullshit" and walked off stage. He was murdered a week later. (conspiracy theory)
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 06, 2003, 12:06:02 PM
QuoteSmilodon - ?? it saddens me that one in our midst is vehemently opposed to musical inspiration and the power in live improvisation through the medium of electric guitar .... Jimi Hendrix "A Legend that will live forever in time"

I'm not vehemently opposed to Jimi Hendrix. I just don't like listening to his music. I don't find anything inspirational in his guitar solos either. I don't deny that many disagree and that he has encouraged and inspired many to take up guitar and to go on to be famous themselves.

For me that whole sixties thing was something I'm glad I wasn't arround to be part of. While it may have played a part in shaping my world (which is debatable) looking back on the language, fashon and culture of that time just makes me laugh.

Although it was a marginally less rediculous period than the '70's which again I was thankfully too young to get caught up in.

That Hendrix could play guitar there is no doubt. That he could write quality songs is down to personal taste, which can't be universally right or wrong. It just an opinion a person holds. If you liked them then they were great and if you thought they were rubbish then they were indeed riubbish.

His guitar solos had, in my opinion, little or no musical merit. They may have been interesting to hear and it may have required a deal of talent to produce them, but they could just as easily be considered pointless sounds fueled by some Jim Morrisonesque drug induced on stage ego trip, egged on by an equally wasted crowd of posturing posing hippies all desparately trying to out cool and out weird each other. That scene had nothing to do with love and peace but was one glorious pissing contest to see who could be more cool and weird than the next guy.  

Of course my generation was no different and I was just as guilty of taking the ego trip as any hippy. Except for me it was Punk Rock that we listened to and Sid Vicious that we worshipped. It was all the same though. Everyone trying to be more Punk and more weird than the next person.

The only difference was we all knew it was a load of bollocks and didn't spend our time kidding ourselves that any of it was serious.

But then again maybe not eh  :wink:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Rad_Man on May 06, 2003, 12:57:25 PM
I suppose its all about the history of the time that determined the social culture.

I also grew up in the early 80's and we use to pogo with the best of em , pistols, ramones , the clash , the damned etc etc but in that time we had no war , no oppression just plain boredom and that is what made punk. Back in the late 60's there was nam , racial inequality , unemployment and lots of drugs.

Then came the lame late 80's and early 90's - Sexually indeterminate keyboard sythesizing makeup freaks that were bored but had good access to drugs and KY jelly. exceptions (U2,Madness and other SKA bands) question to SS were you one of the above?

Anyways no offence taken and none given , but thx for the explanation.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: suicidal_monkey on May 06, 2003, 02:55:25 PM
QuoteI prefer the version of Hey Joe from Winterland. Superb real heavy guitar version. 8)

I liked the cover of hey joe by Bodycount :D

although one of the bnads I was in years ago covered purple haze and hey joe (JH versions) because our lead guitarist couldnt do rythm either :scrambleup: we had some songs where we had to plead with him to just play the solo and to not play certain bits in the rythm...
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Dingo on May 06, 2003, 04:23:51 PM
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Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Dingo on May 06, 2003, 04:34:37 PM
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QuoteSmilodon - ?? it saddens me that one in our midst is vehemently opposed to musical inspiration and the power in live improvisation through the medium of electric guitar .... Jimi Hendrix "A Legend that will live forever in time"

For me that whole sixties thing was something I'm glad I wasn't arround to be part of. While it may have played a part in shaping my world (which is debatable) looking back on the language, fashon and culture of that time just makes me laugh.

Of course my generation was no different and I was just as guilty of taking the ego trip as any hippy. Except for me it was Punk Rock that we listened to and Sid Vicious that we worshipped. It was all the same though. Everyone trying to be more Punk and more weird than the next person.

Although it was a marginally less rediculous period than the '70's which again I was thankfully too young to get caught up in. [/b]


..........did you also listen to Captain Sensible by any chance?? :lol:  :wink:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 06, 2003, 04:52:00 PM
QuoteBack in the late 60's there was nam , racial inequality , unemployment and lots of drugs.

I agree and there were plenty of people who fought the injustices and bigotry that had taken over the US during the '50 and early sixties. Some of them were hippies and some of them weren't. And the ones who weren't seem to have done the most for civil liberties and personal freedom.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Dingo on May 06, 2003, 06:23:07 PM
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QuoteBack in the late 60's there was nam , racial inequality , unemployment and lots of drugs.

I agree and there were plenty of people who fought the injustices and bigotry that had taken over the US during the '50 and early sixties. Some of them were hippies and some of them weren't. And the ones who weren't seem to have done the most for civil liberties and personal freedom.[/b]


............OMG Smilo, you sound just like my DAD!!  :lol:





ps Your'e not my Dad by any chance are you??  :roll:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: SecretSquirrel on May 06, 2003, 07:03:46 PM
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 I also love the album "Animals" pigs , sheep and goats - fits in well with our clan member naming system!!!?


That figures - so the work rumours/emails about your sexual deviency are true - what kind of hybrid is your kid going to be...a kiwifatbottomedgoat if it takes after you :lol:


eh up the anti swear police are about...i only used the word TANGO
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Rad_Man on May 07, 2003, 01:10:30 PM
naa hes not going to follow in the hoofsteps of is uncle squirrell.

He be a freak just like us and play CS whenever the missus is not around or watching.
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Post by: ChimpBoy on May 07, 2003, 07:12:07 PM
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Post by: ChimpBoy on May 07, 2003, 07:15:28 PM
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Post by: ChimpBoy on May 07, 2003, 07:17:02 PM
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Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 07, 2003, 07:21:50 PM
Smiley - given the contents of your car cd player with all of that commercial dance crap I simply cant take you seriously  :wink:

Apart from punk (which I admit has great merits) you're always telling me about those raves you went to - You grew up in an age where it was cool to wear a t shirt with a smiley yellow face (  :) ) and sing "Aciiiiid" in as high a pitch as humanly possible. Oh dear oh dear oh dear  :oops:

I think the music of the sixties and seventies has certainly aged much better than punk, with the definite exception of the Clash who still rock and wrote some great tunes, plus other notable singles by people like the buzzcocks.  

House music sucks.  Full stop.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 07, 2003, 08:01:17 PM
QuoteSmiley -


[snip] Squeekies fantasy[/snip]

House music sucks. Full stop.

You just make it up as you go along don't you. I've never been to a rave in my life. I was in my mid twenties when house music arrived (hardly gowing up with it). But if it fits your arguement you go right ahead and invent what you like.

Back in the real world what I do or do not like musically is of no consiquence at all. It neither negates nor confirms my opinions. So I like listening to Hardcore balearic and Ambient Trance in the car. Bearing in mind I clock up a good 20,000+ business miles year, for me it's background music while I drive. Does having Gorecki on the Cd player at home, or a hard drive full of Union Underground and Sum41 make my opinion of JH more or less valid?.

And if you consider the Buzzcocks to be punk you really do have no clue what you are waffling on about.

Of course we are at least in accord that White Riot is the finest Skinhead band on Earth. Oh the fun we've had driving to Waitrose STOMPING to the glorious sounds of   "Sieg heil  we're back again". :wink:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 07, 2003, 08:15:48 PM
QuoteOf course we are at least in accord that White Riot is the finest Skinhead band on Earth. Oh the fun we've had driving to Waitrose STOMPING to the glorious sounds of "Sieg heil we're back again

That was funny - managed to download anymore matey  :?:

Can your sources get hold of that song the fat bloke sings in American History X - playing that on an endless loop might enable you to tolerate having another day trip out with me  :wink:

QuoteYou just make it up as you go along don't you. I've never been to a rave in my life
Oh dear, this simian must be mad.  I'm probably the animal host for that SARS thingammyjig, or some nasty thread virus that has driven me quite insane
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 07, 2003, 10:20:35 PM
You're beginning to rant now.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 07, 2003, 10:23:13 PM
Don't worry there's plenty more to come buddy boy  :wink:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 07, 2003, 10:25:07 PM
TeaLeaf is there some sort of Ignore feature on this forum?
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 07, 2003, 10:26:44 PM
Yeah, the command is called

[membership=cancel]Smilodon[/boot]
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 08, 2003, 12:42:50 AM
Opinion: A conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof

Belief: Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons.

=================================================

Two definitions of two different things. So what is an opinion? Clearly something held to be true but not substantiated by fact. Beliefs however are held to be true but are based on facts or perceived facts.

Therefore one can believe the capital of France is Paris and that the capital of Germany is Bonn. As illustrated beliefs can be wrong, as Paris is indeed the capital of France but Berlin and not Bonn, is now the capital of unified Germany.

Expressed opinion is exactly that, an idea not based on fact but on feeling. Opinions cannot therefore be held to be right or wrong. They are as valid as the holder of those opinions decides they are.

Is green a nicer colour than blue? We can each have an opinion, but  there is no exact right or wrong. Blue is not measurably nicer than green and no matter how much one likes green it doesn't mean that someone who likes blue is wrong.

So it is with Arts. You cannot quantify art. There is no best piece of music, no best painting.
Many would state that The Godfather is the greatest film ever made. By what measure? It did not gross the highest box office ever (Titanic did that!!!). It did not win the most Oscars (Again Titanic, sharing the honour with Ben Hur, at eleven). So how can it be the best? I can't. All it can be is a film that a vocal minority claim as their favourite.

Based on The Oxford English Dictionary  meaning for 'belief' and 'opinion' consider the following.

"In my opinion the Godfather is the greatest film ever made." Fair point.

"I believe the Godfather to be the greatest film ever made." Prove it.

So what of Jimi Hendrix? Is he a great musician?
Did he sell a lot of records? So did the Spice Girls!
Did a lot of people go see him play? A lot of people went to see Take That!

One cannot therefore state as fact that he was or was not a great musician/song writer.

It's your opinion. It's neither universally right nor universally wrong. But it's what you think. It's the result of what his music means to you. Either a lot or nothing at all. No one can tell you opinion is wrong. And neither can you tell someone else their opinion is wrong.

So to suggest my dislike of Jimi Hendrix has no merit is the comment of at the least a misguided soul and at most the ramblings of a intellectual dwarf.

To further argue that my dislike of JH is somehow wrong based on the fact that you think my liking of dance music is also wrong is as ignorant as thinking my liking of the colour blue is wrong based on the fact that my liking of Guinness is also wrong.

Articulating a reasoned argument is harder than having a mindless dig, but I still suggest you give it a go.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: TeaLeaf on May 08, 2003, 08:22:47 AM
Yadda yadda yadda whatever - to you both  :wink:

Yawn.........

TL.  8)
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 08, 2003, 10:57:02 AM
You don't have to read it you know. It's completely voluntary.:wink:

But it is kinda scarey to think this is all the two of us do all day at work  8O
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: Dingo on May 08, 2003, 11:41:11 AM
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But it is kinda scarey to think this is all the two of us do all day at work 8O

Duly noted......I'll post it on the Company website now!!  :wink:
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: smilodon on May 08, 2003, 05:48:33 PM
You forget that the Chimpster is one of the Untouchables, so there's no point grassing him up.
Title: Jimi Hendrix Best Song
Post by: ChimpBoy on May 08, 2003, 06:13:20 PM
Yeah, don't mess with me Dingo - or I'll grass you up to my company "Godfather" who will duly rain down on you with great vengeance and furious anger.

QuoteDuly noted......I'll post it on the Company website now!!

Do not f#$k with a graddy dear boy - we are the hallowed ones who will usher in a new age (or lower profits and lost accounts, but what the hay, it's all good experience)