So, as it is, the more I play, the more people I see losing rounds and getting killed because of things that could have been easily avoided. There is a rather large number of specific tactical threads on this section, so I thought it would be good to have one that's more general, with advice that can be used on any map, at any time.
Please, anybody with usefull advice, feel free to post it here. I will be doing so whenever I can, and I hope this is somewhat helpfull for both newer and more experienced players.
Let's start things off with some actually rather obvious things, that lots of people somehow still manage to forget.
When playing as as T on a de_ map, make sure you plant the bomb on an easily defendable spot, a place that can be seen from covered spots so you can easily pick off anybody trying to defuse it.
A good example would be de_nuke, where many people keep planting it hidden next to the bomb, while planting it right in the middle (on both sites) would make it very easy to guard it from several spots whitout being in the enemy's sight.
Also, when you have the bomb and your team is running towards a site, make sure you are neither the first to rush, nor the last. If your first and die (thus dropping the bomb), it'll make it harder for your team-mates to retreat if it is precise that they do so, if they can't reach the bomb you dropped.
However, if the area has not been fully cleared yet, you cannot plant it in an open are, but rather try and plant it asap where ppl dont shoot at you.
In Dust2, for exmpale, it is quite easy to know if the area has been fully swipped. In piranesi it's the opposite.
Also, in case you are on your own/outnumbered, it's best to stay hidden until you hear the defusing sound, instead of covering the entrances.
I think what you are discussing regarding planting is already covered here.
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/cs_guides.php#planting
What I could suggest is to pick up you aim off the ground. Always keep your crosshair in expected chest-head height. This is also covered in a thread in this section. However, I still see lots of dMw members dragging their crosshair along the ground.
Quote from: Dr Sadako;185293I think what you are discussing regarding planting is already covered here.
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/cs_guides.php#planting
What I could suggest is to pick up you aim off the ground. Always keep your crosshair in expected chest-head height. This is also covered in a thread in this section. However, I still see lots of dMw members dragging their crosshair along the ground.
Actually it's under the Charlysection http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=17037 but still, as Sadako said. Also using your headset and such the correct way.
Bomb shouldn't go upfront, lately on both MH and during wars the bomber went up ahead, bomb should never rush as the first.
For the rest, most other stuf has probably allready been typed about by Sadako...
Quote from: DuVeL;185328Actually it's under the Charlysection http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=17037 but still, as Sadako said. Also using your headset and such the correct way.
Bomb shouldn't go upfront, lately on both MH and during wars the bomber went up ahead, bomb should never rush as the first.
For the rest, most other stuf has probably allready been typed about by Sadako...
It was this thread I meant in this section.
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2306
Something to have in mind both while attacking and defending is that your enemies (your teammates as well actually:rolleyes: ) might be tossin' some flashers your way. So, it's always important to have your surroundings checked out, so you can, when blinded, retreat to cover even whithout seeing your path.
Quote from: =|B ° K|=;187310Something to have in mind both while attacking and defending is that your enemies (your teammates as well actually:rolleyes: ) might be tossin' some flashers your way. So, it's always important to have your surroundings checked out, so you can, when blinded, retreat to cover even whithout seeing your path.
That, is very good advice indeed.
1. Keep an eye on your surroundings.
2. Watch which teammate goes where.
3.when you see enemies, try to quickly count them, but don't get ya face blown off,
4.try keeping your gun up.
5. and when badly flashed, ( Total white screen ) try making no noise and backing into a corner.
6. Try avoiding glocks.
7. When using a scout don't stay in the same place. Keep on the move.
8. And sometimes, using you team as bait-it's not evil-it's a good idea, when they're dying/making a distraction If your sure that your team will have a victory-even if they're all dead. Go the other way, and sneak up behind the enemies!
9. Gotta go! ^^
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Quote from: Eternaluk;1873322. Watch which teammate goes where.
Thanks to the new radar thingy, this gains extra importance since if you know what teammate went where, you can later on actually see
where he died, and where enemies have been spotted etc.
Also, generally the radar is something to have an eye on whenever possible, as opposed to the old radar (which was basically completely useless in my opinion) it can provide extremely usefull information regarding pretty much anything happening on the map.
Quote from: =|B ° K|=;187364Thanks to the new radar thingy, this gains extra importance since if you know what teammate went where, you can later on actually see where he died, and where enemies have been spotted etc.
Also, generally the radar is something to have an eye on whenever possible, as opposed to the old radar (which was basically completely useless in my opinion) it can provide extremely usefull information regarding pretty much anything happening on the map.
Radar's only useful if you remember to keep glancing at it.
The good thing about it is that you can see enemies on your radar when your team-mates spot them. You can also tell if the enemy has the bomb as he is highlighted.
It is handy to know that team-mates and/or the enemy is above or below you, which is determined by the size of their dot on the minimap.
Quote from: Blunt;187368It is handy to know that team-mates and/or the enemy is above or below you, which is determined by the size of their dot on the minimap.
I thought that indicated fat/skinny players :g:
Oh well :doh:
Quote from: Blunt;187368It is handy to know that team-mates and/or the enemy is above or below you, which is determined by the size of their dot on the minimap.
Yeah, the whole above/below thing is tends to confuse the heck outta me on maps like havana, when there's like only 1 enemy left and he suddenly pops up on the radar, I run towards that and it turns out he was on another floor etc., that usually has me running around the map for the rest of the round...:wacko:
Quote from: BlueBall;187371I thought that indicated fat/skinny players :g:
Oh well :doh:
Not quite :P
And also, try keeping at least 2 of your 3 eyes on the screen, the other one can do other stuff. ( 0 0 0 ) Me < 0.o(.0):flirty:
I'd like to add an important one. If everyone around you is walking, then please do the same! Or there is no point for the walkers to er walk. :doh:
Make sure you set your quick weapon switch button with the right weapons, ready for any unexpected ammo shortage. I should pay more attention to this too. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Lee;187435I'd like to add an important one. If everyone around you is walking, then please do the same! Or there is no point for the walkers to er walk. :doh:
Good advice
Quote from: BlueBall;187371I thought that indicated fat/skinny players :g:
Oh well :doh:
:roflmao:
Quote from: Lee;187435Make sure you set your quick weapon switch button with the right weapons,
Aye, today on italy I stormed out of the apartments and pulled out my knife by mistake :sad:
1. Strafe whilst shooting rifle. e.g two steps left. shoot. two steps right shoot.
2. try and count how many pistol bullets they shoot <- espcially with deagle.
3. dont shoot to fast with deagle of bullets just miss, deagle bullets are valueable as only a small clip.
This (http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=272046) is how it should be done:blink:
Quote from: Blunt;188074This (http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=272046) is how it should be done:blink:
Oh, good.
Thats how I usually do it, so I'm okay.
Quote from: Blunt;188074This (http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=272046) is how it should be done:blink:
haha this is rushers paradise :roflmao:
Something tells me they've done that before as well due to the lack of shock.
when the terrorists have planted the bomb and the ct´s come from different positions to defuse the bomb, its better to wait a few seconds until all the teammates arrived at the conquered territory. very often i see, every few seconds a ct arrive and directly rush forward...
its much more effective to wait and attack together, only when you have a few seconds left to wait of course, because otherwise the terrorists can eliminate single ct´s quite easy.
while planting a bomb, you are still able to look around and observe the area.
adapt your playing style on the weapon youre using. also look at your teammates; when there are already 2 mates who use a scout, you better take another weapon to improve the abilities of your team.
smokegrenades are also useful for distraction...
reload only when its save and nessesary and not after every few shots. you are quite vulnerable during this "long time". in hectic situations its sometimes better to switch to the pistol or to the knife instead of reloading.
try to attack from different sides. its always good to flank the other team. for example a few players keep them busy by throwing grenades and shoot a bit, while the others fall into their back.
to stop a rush, use a lot of flashgrenades. this gives valuable time for the team to find a good position to defend.
when your teammate try to defuse the bomb, and youre the onlyone left, stay directly in front of him so you can defend him better from all sides, or at least give him a bit more time because they must shoot you first... also here is a smokegrenade useful to hide yourself while defusing.
the last one should always guard the back, in case someone comes from behind
when you defend an area, try to vary your position when possible, so your position isnt that calculable. of course when there is a position which is far better than any other, use it! (but remember that those who were killed by you, will probably looking for revenge in the next round) :taz: ...and theyll expect you to be on the very spot.
during a rush, those who have pistols or mps, should be in the front line and rush forward, while those with rifles(which have a longer range) are running behind them and give backup. of course those who are in the first line will probably die sooner, but then there is a higher chance for the those with rifles to win, then the other way around.
and very important: aim at the head! ... (but only on the one from your enemy):D
Quote from: Hektor;197946when your teammate try to defuse the bomb, and youre the onlyone left, stay directly in front of him so you can defend him better from all sides, or at least give him a bit more time because they must shoot you first...
Well, yes and no. The benefit is as you say the enemy must shoot you first to get to the defusing guy, BUT that is only valid for low punch weapons. If the enemy has a rifle or better he will shoot straight thru you and hit the defusing guy (with less damage of course but still).
The benefit of not standing in front is that the Ts will focus on the defusing guy and that leaves you free from attack, which in turn would mean that you more easily can take out the attacking Ts. Yes you are using the defusing guy as bait. :devil:
Quote from: Dr Sadako;198508The benefit of not standing in front is that the Ts will focus on the defusing guy and that leaves you free from attack, which in turn would mean that you more easily can take out the attacking Ts. Yes you are using the defusing guy as bait. :devil:
This'll obviously only work if you can, in the case of a large scale attack wich leaves you outnumbered, take out all those Ts before they kill the defuser .:flirty:
Also, just a quick reminder to all those potential future defusers: If your team has had to shoot its way into the site the bomb is at and you are surrounded by the corpses of your fellow men, make sure to check them for defusing kits. Way too many rounds are lost because of people with no kits simply ignoring the ones lying right next to them while they defuse. That, and please, if your teammates have a kit and you don't, let them handle it. It's never worth risking a round just because "you could use those extra points".
Quote from: Dr Sadako;198508Yes you are using the defusing guy as bait. :devil:
im shocked dr!
i refuse to play together with you in one team anymore :angry:
im just kidding :narnar:
to the topic, i think it depend on the situation. for example, when its enough time your tactic is good, but when you just enter the bombspot, and you only have a few seconds left, my tactic is better, because when you are on another position than your defusing comrade, its possible that you arent able shoot the enemy who attack your mate, because he is shooting from his hideout and from your position you cant see him, or there are a few boxes between you and him so you cant shoot at him.. and when you detect him after he had killed your teammate, you must first run to his hideout, or to a position where you are able to see him, then you must kill him, then you must run back to the bomb, then you must defuse it... but then its too late for you to defuse...
but when you are directly infront of your defusing teammate, you must be able to see him directly, because he is seeing you! and because of that, you are able to shoot directly at him, and you dont waste valuable time by running from your position to the hideout of the enemy, killing the enemy, running back to the bomb, defusing the bomb... explode... :D
its a higher risk, but when there is only a very little time left, its the only way to have success.
as i said, it depend on the situation.
Quote from: =|B ° K|=;198568This'll obviously only work if you can, in the case of a large scale attack wich leaves you outnumbered, take out all those Ts before they kill the defuser .:flirty:
Also, just a quick reminder to all those potential future defusers: If your team has had to shoot its way into the site the bomb is at and you are surrounded by the corpses of your fellow men, make sure to check them for defusing kits. Way too many rounds are lost because of people with no kits simply ignoring the ones lying right next to them while they defuse. That, and please, if your teammates have a kit and you don't, let them handle it. It's never worth risking a round just because "you could use those extra points".
youre right, i think it takes 5 seconds instead of 10 when you use a kit for defusing a bomb. so when you need less than 5 seconds to take a detour and pick up a kit which is a few meters away, its worth it :)
Hektor, do you remember what I explained to you about the "EDIT"button?
3 replies in a row in the same thread...:g:
BTW, you can also quote multiple replies from various people.
Quote from: Hektor;198677youre right, i think it takes 5 seconds instead of 10 when you use a kit for defusing a bomb. so when you need less than 5 seconds to take a detour and pick up a kit which is a few meters away, its worth it :)
Also you have to spend less time with the bomb so if there are enemies still around, picking up a kit (even if it takes slightly longer than 5 secs) might be worthwhile as you don't have to be a target for as long.
Bumping this thread for something I just remembered (because apparently clipping my nails is when my memory works best:rolleyes:):
When you just saw a teammate die, or get shot, but can't spot the perpetrator, check the floor/walls near you/your teammate. In Source (not sure if it did this in 1.6/CZ), the blood splatter is usually a very accurate indicator of where the shots came from. Keeping your eyes open for details like that might just save you from getting shot (too much).
Will do but its normally just you I click on :angry: with my blood on your hands.
yep, and when you see them shot, aswell as the blood look who did the shooting and at the radar to see if they got lit up before killing your teammate.
If you know exactly where they were from the radar you stand a much better chance. And if you know who they were you'll know if the one you killed is the right one and not let your guard down too quickly.