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Forum Archive 2023 => Games of old that no longer float our boat........ => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Counter-Strike: Source => Topic started by: Dr Sadako on April 17, 2007, 10:39:01 PM

Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Dr Sadako on April 17, 2007, 10:39:01 PM
Now that we have Boomer filled up almost every day of the week I just want to inform you that if the server is full and you are spectator you might be kicked to make room for "active" players. It is nothing personal but many want to play. If you are AFK for a shorter while tell an admin that you will be back in x mins to avoid being kicked.
 
On another note, I do not want to see intentional tw or tk on any of our servers. Not even "just for fun" ones. I banned a regular tonight because of this. If I catch any dMw member doing this you will loose your wings immediately! Remember gentlemen, you set the tone on our server.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: DuVeL on April 17, 2007, 10:45:04 PM
Intential TK = NO. There's been quit a bit typing about that allready lately.
Regulars should know better. Lead by example remember!
 
I hope to join you lot soon again for some CS action, lately it's been a bit BF2142 together with Kakehund...
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: delanvital on April 17, 2007, 11:09:47 PM
Things must've been getting worse then. I've been a frequent at boomer last couple of months and I see very little TK and a wee bit of intentional or excessive TW. I had a few non-regulars that started wiping out our own team (TK'ing) for "fun" and I kicked the chaps as quickly as I could (no senior admins in-game) but that is the rare occasion. If I do TK or TW I type a sorry /soz or something as quickly as i can.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Penfold on April 17, 2007, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: delanvital;185655If I do TK or TW I type a sorry /soz or something as quickly as i can.

I'm sure no-one's going to get banned for that -  TK and TW do happen on occasion but it's fairly easy to tell what's an accident and what's deliberate. A misthrown grenade which bounces back, someone straying into your line of fire etc all happen with frighteningly commonality ( <---- is that a word?)

PEN
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: DuVeL on April 17, 2007, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: Penfold;185661frighteningly commonality ( <---- is that a word?)
 
PEN

It made sence to me so probably: yes.
Then again, I've been playing with you lot to much...:flirty:
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Blunt on April 17, 2007, 11:37:09 PM
Sadako's talking about deliberate spawn tw'ing

which gets a 1 hr ban after warning from me.

deliberate spawn tk is auto 1 hr ban

it's especially a shame when up and coming, or regular players do it, but dMw players should definately not be doing it:sideways:

Bannage may be more severe for dMw members as you are expected to set an example to others.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: delanvital on April 17, 2007, 11:40:04 PM
Quote from: Penfold;185661I'm sure no-one's going to get banned for that -  TK and TW do happen on occasion but it's fairly easy to tell what's an accident and what's deliberate. A misthrown grenade which bounces back, someone straying into your line of fire etc all happen with frighteningly commonality ( <---- is that a word?)

PEN

It's a valid word :)
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: delanvital on April 17, 2007, 11:56:12 PM
Quote from: Blunt;185667Sadako's talking about deliberate spawn tw'ing

which gets a 1 hr ban after warning from me.

deliberate spawn tk is auto 1 hr ban

it's especially a shame when up and coming, or regular players do it, but dMw players should definately not be doing it:sideways:

Bannage may be more severe for dMw members as you are expected to set an example to others.

I can't imagine any Charlie+ at least, in any situation, would do a deliberate TK or TW? :blink: Only possible scenario would be to end the occasional TK'ing killing spree from some non-regular trying to eradicate his own team by taking him out before everyone is killed. Would that be a good or bad thing to do? :unsure: I've seen that happen and accepted it.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Blunt on April 18, 2007, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: delanvital;185669I can't imagine any Charlie+ at least, in any situation, would do a deliberate TK or TW? :blink: Only possible scenario would be to end the occasional TK'ing killing spree from some non-regular trying to eradicate his own team by taking him out before everyone is killed. Would that be a good or bad thing to do? :unsure: I've seen that happen and accepted it.
not in my book.

I don't know for sure, but I'm sure there was some guidance given a long tima ago about how to respond to this kind of thing.
IIRC the rule was NOT to respond in kind, but to let the admins take care of it.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Dr Sadako on April 18, 2007, 07:33:10 AM
Quote from: Blunt;185667Sadako's talking about deliberate spawn tw'ing
 
which gets a 1 hr ban after warning from me.
 
deliberate spawn tk is auto 1 hr ban
 
it's especially a shame when up and coming, or regular players do it, but dMw players should definately not be doing it:sideways:
 
Bannage may be more severe for dMw members as you are expected to set an example to others.

Blunt is of course right on spot what I am talking about. TK and TW can happen by accident and we accept that it happens but it is intentional TW and TK I am after. One of the events, from last night, was in CT spawn well after round had started far away from any enemies. Continued TW ending up in a TK. Hence the ban.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Whitey on April 18, 2007, 08:41:54 AM
Quote from: delanvital;185669Only possible scenario would be to end the occasional TK'ing killing spree from some non-regular trying to eradicate his own team by taking him out before everyone is killed. Would that be a good or bad thing to do? :unsure: I've seen that happen and accepted it.

That would be a bad thing to do.  The best option is to kick/ban the player ASAP.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Anonymous on April 18, 2007, 09:31:30 AM
Agree with Whitey. Responding like for like just escalates things - it's one of the reasons I get annoyed when regulars intentionally TW in spawn when they know there will be several restarts on a map. they think its funny but non-regulars think it is acceptable. Anyone who deliberately TWs gets slayed/kicked in my book. It is the on ly way to maintain standards.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: sheepy on April 18, 2007, 09:36:16 AM
rule on with a rod of iron~!
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Bk on April 18, 2007, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: Whitey;185686That would be a bad thing to do.  The best option is to kick/ban the player ASAP.

A few days ago we had a guy that started the round by killing a teammate, then started following the rest (while shooting obviously), so I banned him immediatly, but before doing so I shot his head off, but it was only to stop his killing spree, since I needed some time to find him on the player-list of the admin menu, by which he would've killed most of our team. :sad:
Hope that isn't too bad though, since it was merely to avoid having more players senselessly killed.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Dr Sadako on April 18, 2007, 01:47:54 PM
Quote from: =|B ° K|=;185743A few days ago we had a guy that started the round by killing a teammate, then started following the rest (while shooting obviously), so I banned him immediatly, but before doing so I shot his head off, but it was only to stop his killing spree, since I needed some time to find him on the player-list of the admin menu, by which he would've killed most of our team. :sad:
Hope that isn't too bad though, since it was merely to avoid having more players senselessly killed.

I think this is ok in this type of situation. However, we should choose the menu option if time allows. I have done the same a few times. I think it is right to permanently ban them immediately. It is plain obvious that he didn't belong on our server.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: delanvital on April 18, 2007, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: Dr Sadako;185750I think this is ok in this type of situation. However, we should choose the menu option if time allows. I have done the same a few times. I think it is right to permanently ban them immediately. It is plain obvious that he didn't belong on our server.

I was of course referring to a situation where you can't get to the menu in time. I.e. at spawn where the offender could wipe out evrybody rather quick. But I will stick to the menu regardless. So far I've done so anyway.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Jewelz^ on April 18, 2007, 05:33:29 PM
mani admins can't perm ban, max ban = 2hour?
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Whitey on April 18, 2007, 06:04:59 PM
Quote from: Jewelz^;185784mani admins can't perm ban, max ban = 2hour?

If you do a temp ban, then inform a senior admin of the person's ID, they can make it permanent.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Bk on April 18, 2007, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: Jewelz^;185784max ban = 2hour?

4 I think. Could be wrong though :g:
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: DogMeat on April 18, 2007, 06:52:36 PM
Quote from: Dr Sadako;185631If you are AFK for a shorter while tell an admin that you will be back in x mins to avoid being kicked.

Just to pick up on this point, I usually take a break for smoke/refresh drink every couple of rounds or so.  I'm not about to start asking permission to be excused like I was a schoolkid, so perhaps the admins could exercise some discretion with their trigger fingers and not kick regulars because we don't jump when told.

When I quit a server, I log out.  If I'm not logged out, then I'm coming back.  There - that's no so hard to understand, is it?
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Le Rouge on April 18, 2007, 08:10:12 PM
re the matter of Full Server, I would like to ask again what can we do if a dMw wants to join and non-dMws are on? :g:
(moving to the MH is usually not something that actually happens)
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: Whitey on April 18, 2007, 09:33:52 PM
Join Meathook and wait for more to join or wait for a slot on Boomer.
Title: Full server and intentional TW/TK
Post by: GreenYoshi on September 12, 2009, 02:39:32 PM
Just throwing it out there, hows about moving half hte slots from MH -> Boomer on fight nights (a friday night lets say to cope with the extra demand) or would this ruin the game / server?