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Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Snokio on May 09, 2007, 10:20:50 PM
I have recently noticed that this week, boomer seems to be spiking quite alot, and today it seemed to be quite bad :sad:  is this happening to everyone or just a few of us?

Or did perhaps someone follow the white rabbit....... and took the red pill instead of the blue ? :rolleyes:, I suspect bullet time has been used :g:

I don't know if this has been brought to anyones attention btw ???
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: OldBloke on May 09, 2007, 10:34:42 PM
LFS has been almost unplayable at times this past week. :sad:

Time to get the PingPlotter out chaps.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Coaxafkone on May 09, 2007, 10:57:45 PM
Tried playing with Sith just then, serious Lag Spikes. Every 5 minutes or so, become more frequent after that and lasting longer. :sideways:
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Eternaluk on May 09, 2007, 11:01:09 PM
Quote from: Exodus;188536Tried playing with Sith just then, serious Lag Spikes. Every 5 minutes or so, become more frequent after that and lasting longer. :sideways:

I've stopped playing on Boomer because of lag. It's so annoying, you can't get a proper game in...
(And I feel the need to play on other stuff.)
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Bob on May 10, 2007, 12:12:33 AM
I've experienced some major lag spikes here at the forum as well from time to time during the last days. Don't know if it's located on the same (or a closely related) server as the gaming servers, or if it's just a coincident...
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Lee on May 10, 2007, 01:19:04 AM
I've definitely noticed lag spikes on Boomer, as have others who mention "Big lag spikezor" when it does. It actually doesn't bother me too much, but it's unpredictable and happens sometimes in important fire-fights.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: DuVeL on May 10, 2007, 07:03:36 AM
The other day I did have a big lagspike while on Boomer.
A few pingplots might be usefull yes...
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: delanvital on May 10, 2007, 09:09:29 AM
Quote from: Bob;188549I've experienced some major lag spikes here at the forum as well from time to time during the last days. Don't know if it's located on the same (or a closely related) server as the gaming servers, or if it's just a coincident...

:withstupid:
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: TeaLeaf on May 10, 2007, 09:47:57 AM
The game servers, TS and forums/website are hosted on to 3 diferent servers, so a broadly experienced problem is not going to be down to hardware.  In particular the game servers are run on our best box and from the server performance logs nothing is spiking at all or even coming close to full CPU utilisation.  We have extremely high quality hardware and we do not believe our server hardware it is the source of the problem.  

The Admins have been running pingplotters and other diagnostic tools for a couple of weeks now and the one thing we can say with absolute confidence is that our server is not spiking.  The wierd thing is that the net connection also seems to looks fine during these spikes.  If you have data then please post it, the more the merrier as they say as it can only help us identify the issue.

Rest assured we're already on the case and looking for the source of the problem and its resolution.

TL.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Blunt on May 10, 2007, 10:20:51 AM
The lag spikes (or whatever they are) have been quite bad for the last couple of days on Boomer.

The game just freezes for up to 10 seconds, then suddenly it's back to normal.

It did it at least twice yesterday evening.

I was relieved to find that it had happened to everyone as I thought my graphics cards were overheating again (dust).
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Carr0t on May 10, 2007, 10:55:46 AM
It was fine for me when I was on on Monday night. Strange.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Bk on May 10, 2007, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: Lee;188553[...] as have others who mention "Big lag spikez0r" when it does.
*raises hand*
Quote from: TeaLeaf;188596[...] and the one thing we can say with absolute confidence is that our server is not spiking.  

Now seriously, it cant be that the server's not spiking, I mean, everybody is getting that thing at the same time. And it's become more frequent as of late, with longer pauses each time it happens. If this keeps going, we'll be losing quite a few potencial new regulars.
Also, I don't know if this might be related at all, but I've been getting some really high pings lately, even though it seems to have gotten better since yesterday. :g:
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: DuVeL on May 10, 2007, 02:03:24 PM
BK, the servers are really looked out for. Believe me.
We give serverfunding and with that money we get servers and such but we also have people like Gandy and so who check them out aswell.
If TL says stuff like that, I wouldn't dare doubting...
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Carr0t on May 10, 2007, 02:40:09 PM
What ISPs are the people who are having issues on? As I said, it was fine for me on Monday, and I trust TL etc to know whether or not the server itself is spiking, but IIRC TL etc are on Hi-Velocity, who also host the servers. Is there a possiblity that some transit ISP that traffic is passing across for a lot of people is having trouble with their peering with Hi-V? It could be that Force9 (who i'm with) either directly peer with Hi-V or use a different transit ISP (I thought there were only a few though, and that they were *very* big), hence my connection seems fine.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: GhostMjr on May 10, 2007, 02:59:52 PM
As a basic run down i get the same as blunt. Now i have been doing random pingplots for the last year or so and the switches seem to be the problem in hi-v or something linking us to the server. I was getting some red boxes and high slides to the right with regard to a ping plot to boomer and to deadmen.co.uk. Anyway I'm on NTL or virgin media (4meg poole exchange) and i will just do a ping plot and work out which has been the culprit before. Also i have been getting about 10 choke at times of intense game play with 2 at idle. Other members however have been getting very high choke rates as seen before in other threads.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Gandalf on May 10, 2007, 03:01:49 PM
If you can get me some pingplotter files uploaded here so I have some info to pass onto the transit suppliers I'll get this issue looked at.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: GhostMjr on May 10, 2007, 03:05:34 PM
Ok as you can see my ends fine it bulges around hi-v

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/GhostMjr/untitled2.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/GhostMjr/untitled-1.jpg)
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Blunt on May 10, 2007, 03:27:15 PM
Boomer

(http://uk.geocities.com/bluntphilly@btopenworld.com/pingplot1.JPG)
(http://uk.geocities.com/bluntphilly@btopenworld.com/pingplot2.JPG)

I won't pretend to know what it means:blink:
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Blunt on May 10, 2007, 03:32:50 PM
//www.deadmen

(http://uk.geocities.com/bluntphilly@btopenworld.com/pingplot3.JPG)
(http://uk.geocities.com/bluntphilly@btopenworld.com/pingplot4.JPG)
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Gandalf on May 10, 2007, 03:40:31 PM
that's great. keep em coming. I'll get the details passed on.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: TeaLeaf on May 10, 2007, 04:54:35 PM
Quote from: =|B ° K|=;188653Now seriously, it cant be that the server's not spiking, I mean, everybody is getting that thing at the same time.
As I said, given that we use up to 3 different servers for our community the probability of it being our hardware simultaneously and intermittenlty going on strike is remote.  Anyway, I think there has been more than enough information posted above for you to read and see that other explanations are far more likely, like the routing.  One instance of a CSS server or LFS server runnning on separate NICs on our dual Opteron 265 server with 4GB of RAM is not going to spike it.  Windows used more CPU than CSS does! :wink:

TL.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Bk on May 10, 2007, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: TeaLeaf;188690Anyway, I think there has been more than enough information posted above for you to read and see that other explanations are far more likely, like the routing.  

TL.

That won't really help much, considering the fact that I have absolutely no idea what all that stuff means. But if you are sure that the place is not spiking, I have complete trust in your word.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: suicidal_monkey on May 10, 2007, 05:54:04 PM
hope this helps :)

(http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/pingplots/boomer1.png)

...and...

(http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/pingplots/boomer2.png)

...and...

(http://eis.bris.ac.uk/%7Ebm8746/files/pingplots/forum1.png)
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Squonk on May 10, 2007, 05:56:45 PM
Another one
 
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/squonk_steve//photos/untitled.JPG)
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Coaxafkone on May 10, 2007, 06:31:36 PM
I hope this this helps and that I've done it correctly :flirty:

(If there's something to do with this let me know :D)

Deadmen.co.uk

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/Random%20Pics/Pingplot-Deadmen.png)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/Random%20Pics/Pingplot-Deadmen2.png)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/Pingplot-Deadmen2.png)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/Pingplot-Deadmen.png) Boomer:

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/Random%20Pics/BoomerPP.png)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/BoomerPP.png)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/BoomerPP2.png)(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/Random%20Pics/BoomerPP2.png)

I have no idea what this means either :blink:
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Lee on May 10, 2007, 07:09:01 PM
I don't understand it either. :blink: Funnily enough i'm on NTL too, its only started happening the past week or so, and my choke has gone down now. o_O
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Whitey on May 10, 2007, 08:54:15 PM
I'm with BT and am experiencing the lag spikes as well.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Bastet on May 11, 2007, 06:27:38 PM
How does one make them fancy plots? i might have a crack at em myselfs too. :)
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Bob on May 11, 2007, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Bastet;189010How does one make them fancy plots? i might have a crack at em myselfs too. :)
If you take a look at the bottom of each of those images, you'll see the text "Data and Image generated by PingPlotter 2.60 (http://www.pingplotter.com)"... That might give you a small clue :narnar:
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Bastet on May 11, 2007, 06:36:29 PM
Mwha, i was like PICTURE! who cares about words anyway? :sideways:
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2007, 08:29:27 PM
Here is a trace from Friday night. Guys are getting a lot of lag but server and router are showing as OK. However note all the congestion in and around the London routers.
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Gone_Away on May 12, 2007, 01:50:44 AM
3 spikes tonight.. longest lasted about 10 sec. the next two were around 5
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: GhostMjr on May 15, 2007, 06:09:25 PM
Ok last night was on the lfs server till pretty late and it kept loosing connection and jumping us off. Anyway went on a minute a go and was playing for a good 20 minutes and it died again. Also the forum died too. For logging purposes this was 18:02
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Coaxafkone on June 07, 2007, 01:58:41 PM
Many lag spikes just a few minutes ago whilst playing on Boomer. Not sure if this helps but I did some PPing whilst playing on it:

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x45/mikhael_exodus/Random%20Pics/Boomer.png)

Could someone show how to interpret this data and what it means?
Title: spiking server ?
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2007, 02:40:38 PM
Yup. Same old culprits :(

As you can see server is fine. The admin team are currently investigating ways of improving this situation and we'll post more info once we have it.