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Forum Archive 2023 => Games of old that no longer float our boat........ => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Counter-Strike: Source => Topic started by: Whitey on July 14, 2007, 01:41:33 PM

Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Whitey on July 14, 2007, 01:41:33 PM
I was really disappointed to see people who appeared to be frag hunting on Meathook last night rather than sticking with the team to complete the objective.  This is not acceptable!

As T, if the tactic is called (by the person with the bomb or the SL) at the beginning of the round to split up or cause a diversion, then that is the only valid reason you should split from the area of the bomber.  Defend the bomber with your life, it's not about you, it's about the team completing the map objective!

As CT, if the bomb is down, get there as fast as you can and defend it within a reasonably close proximity to the bomb.

If you want to go frag hunting, find another server and remove your dMw tags.  
If this continues on our servers, the culprits will at the very least be kicked from the server and be returned to Alpha status.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Grimnar on July 14, 2007, 03:34:41 PM
Quote from: Whitey;197631I was really disappointed to see people who appeared to be frag hunting on Meathook last night rather than sticking with the team to complete the objective. This is not acceptable!
 
As T, if the tactic is called (by the person with the bomb or the SL) at the beginning of the round to split up or cause a diversion, then that is the only valid reason you should split from the area of the bomber. Defend the bomber with your life, it's not about you, it's about the team completing the map objective!
 
As CT, if the bomb is down, get there as fast as you can and defend it within a reasonably close proximity to the bomb.
 
If you want to go frag hunting, find another server and remove your dMw tags.
If this continues on our servers, the culprits will at the very least be kicked from the server and be returned to Alpha status.

 
Sorry but i really think this thread shouldn't be posted.
 
First of all you are talking about MH, k that is fine but think about the maps you have running on that server.
If these things happend all the time with dust2 or inferno or any old maps then i "could" agree with this post but now i won't. We play maps that most people don't even know. I pld a bit on MH yesterday and pld maps i havn't pld before or maybe once. And there are alot more people like me with that problem.
 
And also you are talking about a bomb only?? Why CT's have attacking maps aswell but only the T's get blamed for attacking...
 
And splitting up without a call of the bomber or the so called SL is a good thing. I will not stay near the bomber if we will just get shot by a full ct group as we had to stay together as no call was maked.. we destroy our gameplay and we don't use the map, as any map has more ways to get to your bombside or hostage area or even to the vip.
 
Well this is a bit how i think of it. Atm i feel to be left alone and don't see the point of comming on the server just to have some fun... this is getting a match server......... I know we are a TCS group but this is getting out of hand...
 
It may be me that i got it wrong but my response above is from the thing i read and how i see the gameplay on MH.
 
aahh well cya ltrz..................
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Dr Sadako on July 14, 2007, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: Ice Hawk;197635Sorry but i really think this thread shouldn't be posted.
 
First of all you are talking about MH, k that is fine but think about the maps you have running on that server.
If these things happend all the time with dust2 or inferno or any old maps then i "could" agree with this post but now i won't. We play maps that most people don't even know. I pld a bit on MH yesterday and pld maps i havn't pld before or maybe once. And there are alot more people like me with that problem.
 
And also you are talking about a bomb only?? Why CT's have attacking maps aswell but only the T's get blamed for attacking...
 
And splitting up without a call of the bomber or the so called SL is a good thing. I will not stay near the bomber if we will just get shot by a full ct group as we had to stay together as no call was maked.. we destroy our gameplay and we don't use the map, as any map has more ways to get to your bombside or hostage area or even to the vip.
 
Well this is a bit how i think of it. Atm i feel to be left alone and don't see the point of comming on the server just to have some fun... this is getting a match server......... I know we are a TCS group but this is getting out of hand...
 
It may be me that i got it wrong but my response above is from the thing i read and how i see the gameplay on MH.
 
aahh well cya ltrz..................

I guess it struck a cord ... :devil:
 
I think you missed the point of the post. Whitey is fully aware that there were quite a lot of players to which the maps were new. This is not what the post is about.
 
Recently on MH and Boomer some members have disregarded the main objective completely to go fraghunting. There is nothing wrong with splitting up and creating diversions but on e.g. inferno having the bomb down at B and then some CTs go from B to A and then continues toward house route to fraghunt i.e. going away from the bomb. However you try to put it there is no way to justify that. On office and office extended we have also observed Ts running all over the allowed zone back and forth just looking for kills.
 
Ninja Freak continuously yelled it at LAN IV, "There is no I in team" and that is what this post is about. Some ALWAYS go their own way irrespectively if there have been a call or not from bomber or SL. Rest assured Ice, if it was you we were talking about you would have a PM by now ... :byebye:
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Sithvid on July 14, 2007, 04:17:17 PM
Last night I got detached from main group on one match and got site A just as T planted at B. Obviously the CT's all then turned and ran to B, as did I.
I shot two of them on the way to A.
But I wouldn't really class this as frag hunting.

Tactically sometimes the T with the bomb asks for a diversion, while the main group go to one site. I always assumed this was tactical also.
I maybe up a different tree to Whitey here.

Generally I think the attitude and banter is spot on, but If I was creating a problem for others I would prefer to be advised directly, so I could learn, and not  upset others, even if unintentionally.
I value my wings and don't want them clipped.:dmw:

I do feel guilty about something though can't quite put my fishy finger on it....
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Whitey on July 14, 2007, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Sithvid;197639Last night I got detached from main group on one match and got site A just as T planted at B. Obviously the CT's all then turned and ran to B, as did I.
I shot two of them on the way to A.
But I wouldn't really class this as frag hunting.

Tactically sometimes the T with the bomb asks for a diversion, while the main group go to one site. I always assumed this was tactical also.
I maybe up a different tree to Whitey here.

Generally I think the attitude and banter is spot on, but If I was creating a problem for others I would prefer to be advised directly, so I could learn, and not  upset others, even if unintentionally.
I value my wings and don't want them clipped.:dmw:

I do feel guilty about something though can't quite put my fishy finger on it....

What you did as CT is fine and if the diversion is done as part of a team strategy, again that is fine.  I have sent a PM to those who were obviously frag hunting and not playing TCS but I want to make sure we stick to playing TCS and don't have solo frag hunters spoiling the game for the rest of us.  
No one will have their wings clipped without a formal warning.

Ice, if you don't know the maps, then stick with the people on your team who do.  Please read this thread (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3499) and this (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3498) as a reminder of what TCS is about.  I'm not saying anything new here, it's what we should be doing ALL the time.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Benny on July 14, 2007, 08:09:00 PM
My PM hasn't come through ;)

Keep up the good work admin fellas.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: smite on July 15, 2007, 08:52:21 AM
I think the comment of the night on comms was:
Admin: "Please dont go off on your own work as a team" as one person continually went the opposite way and was always the last person alive.
 
Said Suspected Frag whoring member: "What and DIE?"
 
 
I don't think that needs any more explanation.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: DuVeL on July 15, 2007, 11:16:25 AM
Quote from: smite;197689I think the comment of the night on comms was:
Admin: "Please dont go off on your own work as a team" as one person continually went the opposite way and was always the last person alive.
 
Said Suspected Frag whoring member: "What and DIE?"
 
I don't think that needs any more explanation.

Lol, I have died thousands of deaths online just for TCS. And I'm willing to do thousands more.
 
Thing is that if the bomber sometimes calls, he ends up the first to die sometimes on a bombspot (you all know I like rushes). Best thing would be if someone would know if he'd get the bomb the next round :g:.
Ahwell, Whitey is back and in control.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Gorion on July 15, 2007, 04:37:00 PM
question that might regard these points: was my playing style tcs aceptable?
 
was quite a bit dead last, and as ct in the "aztec map" i went off defending the same bomb site over and over again, even if it was me and acid_skass and sometimes me alone there
 
no pm recieved, ime just asking to be 100% clarified
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Grimnar on July 15, 2007, 05:31:57 PM
Quote from: Gorion;197723question that might regard these points: was my playing style tcs aceptable?
 
was quite a bit dead last, and as ct in the "aztec map" i went off defending the same bomb site over and over again, even if it was me and acid_skass and sometimes me alone there
 
no pm recieved, ime just asking to be 100% clarified

 
You are new to the game and will get helped if needed.
 
And at aztec if you just defend a bombside then you are doing a good thing:flirty:
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Sn00ks on July 15, 2007, 06:29:59 PM
What you need are quality plans called early and executed with precision.
I think the 'rush up the middle and hide in their spawn' ploy  worked well, although none of us made it to their spawn :crying:.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Whitey on July 15, 2007, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: Ice Hawk;197727You are new to the game and will get helped if needed.
 
And at aztec if you just defend a bombside then you are doing a good thing:flirty:

What he said :)
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Hektor on July 15, 2007, 08:07:33 PM
i agree. the team should be in the foreground, so its better to do everything for the success of the team.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Blunt on July 15, 2007, 10:50:17 PM
Quote from: Hektor;197738i agree. the team should be in the foreground, so its better to do everything for the success of the team.
we know you agree, that is why you is still here:D

Hek, you are TCS to the Max:D
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Penfold on July 16, 2007, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: Dr Sadako;197637Ninja Freak continuously yelled it at LAN IV, "There is no I in team" and that is what this post is about.

There is a 'M' and an 'E' though :norty:

PEN

/flippant mode off
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Thulsa Doom on July 16, 2007, 11:32:38 AM
I'm not really aware of too many frag hunters in dMw.
I sometimes go off in one direction to hopefully pick a few off maming it easier for the team to complete their objective (when attacking).

If a few team mates follow then create, I'm not alone and have backup.
If I'm alone I don't regard myself as a frag hunter.

What makes out servers better to play on is that we have map boundaries, and that for me is the thing that makes it more enjoyable and playable.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Le Rouge on July 16, 2007, 08:04:46 PM
Quote from: Penfold;197783There is a 'M' and an 'E' though :norty:
PEN
/flippant mode off

Shouldn't it be "an 'M' "?
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Nefertem on July 16, 2007, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: Le Rouge;197851Shouldn't it be "an 'M' "?

I believe in the english language the 'an' only appears infront of words/letters that starts with/is a vowel (island, icecream etc), and words/letters that starts with/is a consonant (vowel, dog etc) has the 'a' in front of it..

Thats how I remember it to be anyways :)
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Dr Sadako on July 16, 2007, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: Nefertem;197854I believe in the english language the 'an' only appears infront of words/letters that starts with/is a vowel (island, icecream etc), and words/letters that starts with/is a consonant (vowel, dog etc) has the 'a' in front of it..
 
Thats how I remember it to be anyways :)

Quite right but "m" is pronounced "em" and thus an "m" I believe.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Doorman on July 16, 2007, 11:04:11 PM
Quote from: Dr Sadako;197867Quite right but "m" is pronounced "em" and thus an "m" I believe.
Correct. :)
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Blunt on July 16, 2007, 11:14:56 PM
you is right
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Lee on July 17, 2007, 12:29:49 AM
Quote from: Nefertem;197854I believe in the english language the 'an' only appears infront of words/letters that starts with/is a vowel (island, icecream etc), and words/letters that starts with/is a consonant (vowel, dog etc) has the 'a' in front of it..

Thats how I remember it to be anyways :)

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/esl/esliart.html This should help. On topic, looks like i didn't do any fraghunting fortunately. :)
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: DuVeL on July 17, 2007, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: Le Rouge;197851Shouldn't it be "an 'M' "?
In this form it would be; There's no I in "Team" but there is: me
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2007, 12:38:48 PM
I've always preferred the classic version:

There is no I in Team and no u in tomorrow!
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Bastet on July 17, 2007, 07:33:51 PM
lol BB, nice one :lmfao:
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: ***Freestyler*** on July 18, 2007, 12:47:41 AM
Quote from: DuVeL;197700Lol, I have died thousands of deaths online just for TCS. And I'm willing to do thousands more. [QUOTE/]

Yes you will DuVeL yes you will
:yes2::yes2::yes2:

:dmw::dmw::dmw::dmw::dmw:
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: ***Freestyler*** on July 18, 2007, 12:53:31 AM
Quote from: DuVeL;197700Lol, I have died thousands of deaths online just for TCS. And I'm willing to do thousands more.

When im on DuVeL ill make sure that happens
:boff::boff::devil::devil:

luv ya really:cheers::cheers::cheers:

:dmw::dmw::dmw::dmw:
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Penfold on July 18, 2007, 09:40:32 AM
Quote from: DuVeL;197918In this form it would be; There's no I in "Team" but there is: me

Oh no it wouldn't :)

PEN

PS. It should be 'an M'  ..... guys I write all day so excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me if I get a bit lackadaisical when it comes to writing in the forums..... I don't usually check it :)
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: DuVeL on July 18, 2007, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: Penfold;198022Oh no it wouldn't :)
 
PEN
 
PS. It should be 'an M' ..... guys I write all day every day so excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me if I get a bit lackadaisical when it comes to writing in the forums..... I don't usually check it :)

Last edited by Penfold : Today at 10:43 AM.
 
 
:lmfao:. For the rest, TCS guys, that's why we have: :dmw:
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Penfold on July 18, 2007, 09:48:04 AM
'Usually'









PEN
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Snusmumrikken on July 27, 2007, 08:00:09 AM
what does the right way of saying "an m" have to do with anything?
...
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Whitey on January 24, 2008, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: Whitey;197631As T, if the tactic is called (by the person with the bomb or the SL) at the beginning of the round to split up or cause a diversion, then that is the only valid reason you should split from the area of the bomber.  Defend the bomber with your life, it's not about you, it's about the team completing the map objective!

As CT, if the bomb is down, get there as fast as you can and defend it within a reasonably close proximity to the bomb.

If you want to go frag hunting, find another server and remove your dMw tags.  
If this continues on our servers, the culprits will at the very least be kicked from the server and be returned to Alpha status.

There are a few people who still seem to have a different definition of "reasonably close" to the rest of us.  Please stay near the bomb at all times once it has been planted as T or if you are defending a dropped bomb as CT.
Title: Frag Hunting
Post by: Gone_Away on January 24, 2008, 02:11:41 PM
Quote from: Ice Hawk;197635Sorry but i really think this thread shouldn't be posted.
 
First of all you are talking about MH, k that is fine but think about the maps you have running on that server.
If these things happend all the time with dust2 or inferno or any old maps then i "could" agree with this post but now i won't. We play maps that most people don't even know. I pld a bit on MH yesterday and pld maps i havn't pld before or maybe once. And there are alot more people like me with that problem.
 
And also you are talking about a bomb only?? Why CT's have attacking maps aswell but only the T's get blamed for attacking...
 
And splitting up without a call of the bomber or the so called SL is a good thing. I will not stay near the bomber if we will just get shot by a full ct group as we had to stay together as no call was maked.. we destroy our gameplay and we don't use the map, as any map has more ways to get to your bombside or hostage area or even to the vip.
 
Well this is a bit how i think of it. Atm i feel to be left alone and don't see the point of comming on the server just to have some fun... this is getting a match server......... I know we are a TCS group but this is getting out of hand...
 
It may be me that i got it wrong but my response above is from the thing i read and how i see the gameplay on MH.
 
aahh well cya ltrz..................

To be honest Ice everything in Whitey's post should be practiced at all times by those sporting the -=[dMw]=- tag. I tend to play like that on most servers I go to least alone our own. Ask GhostMjr, we've been on Red Lion quite a bit when Boomer quietens down and we play together as a two man team utilising good coms and TCS tactics. Surprize, surprize we normally do quite well and always have others following our lead.
 
TCS practiced effectively not only works and is fun to play, it works well. Look at the impromptu match dMw attended which we sent some of our best folks.. All proficient at TCS.. Result = Slaughter the opposition left part way through the match.. :roflmao:
 
dMw CSS is TCS. those are the rules and standards which apply on our servers.
 
It is supposed to be fun and it usually is.
 
What is getting out of hand from what I can see, is the departure from the standards that we worked so hard to achieve. That is the reason behind the re-inforcement of the policies.
 
Enjoy your stay..