SOG Application Form
gebermez
FOR ALL APPLICATIONS:
Character Name: blackmetal
Level: 70
Class: Rogue
Race: Night Elf
Past Guild Affiliation: i was in sog raid group 2 with my druid called darkuur and i was been in old coc b4 tbc after tbc i joined righteous and drakan templars.
Who is your sponsor? xx
Who else do you know in the guild? no1 atm
Why do you want to join SOG? im lookin for raiding guild nothing much.
Anything else? -.-'
cant say this really exites me as a application :crying:
plus do we really need a rogue ?
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aszune&n=Blackmetal
armory profile here
No sponsor and noone in here he knows?
His name looks familiar, but I can't recall ever playing with him. He must have been in RG2 for only a very short while too (neutral with hydraxian 1961/3000).
His gear looks good and he obviously has Kara and heroic experience (exhalted with all TBC factions that matter).
I have to agree with Duk, his application doesn't look very appealing. However we do need more people if we want to have a second Kara group and/or start Gruul. He looks ok, it can't harm to give him a try imo.
I do remember him from my RG2 days.. Was with us just a short time but he was a nice fellow
Played a heroic instance with him just a few weeks ago and he did handle his class very well and as Sandrion says we need more ppls if we ever want a crack at gruul :boxing:
So i say give him a trial and see what happens, just my :2cents:
i know the guy, hese ok
knows how to play the class
the negative part, he once was in a group and went afk for 15-20mins, then left
Don't see any real reason why to decline him, but why accept him?
Remembers you said, Why say yes now assuposed to why say no, nothing in his favor, decline him :)
why say yes: we only have 1 raiding rogue (possibly 2 with aloha) *which is now busy with house moving*. we are aiming to get another kz group running and gruul later on..
he has enough gear to start joining us on runs
he knows how to play, been with him on heroics
as tea said, we aint in a position to be so demanding anymore, so imo we should give him a chance. if he doesnt do well, just kick him
#1: That's the most crappy filled out application form I've seen in a long while.
#2: He doesn't have a sponsor, nor does he even know anyone in the guild.
#3: On the last meeting, we said basically 1 more of each class - we have already recruited a rogue. And if we were to take some extra of any of the classes, I guess rogue ain't the one we should prioritize.
#4: Ice if busy moving now, yes - but he'll probably be back in good time before we are ready to start Gruul's.
So from me, it's nothing but a big no :thumbsdown:
as i said, i know him myself, and hese good.
do we want just 2 rogues in a 25man?
if we want to loose a good player go ahead
Well, put it this way: if we accept this player (and imho, I think we should, if only to give us more activity / competition for KZ raids) are we changing policy to a why say no policy?
Quote from: Gorion;205049do we want just 2 rogues in a 25man?
What was said, was that we shouldn't aim for a full 25man on our own, but enough people to be able to make a good alliance with another guild. Whether this should be changed or not could be a question, but in that case it is something that should be debated more closely beforehand.
Quote from: Lucian;205073if we accept this player (...) are we changing policy to a why say no policy?
Not necessarily, as we agreed to loosen a bit on how strict we should be due to recruitment needs. But as we've already filled the rogue spot, I think we should hold back a bit.
My vote is still no. I'll go with the majority, but I think there at least should be a general consensus about it.
As a compromise, we also have the alternative to put him on hold.
mate, no good equipped player will be staying onhold with our current progression..
it might happen if we were sora or genesis, but we aint
today we had 12 signups for the raid, thats 8 away from an sog 2nd kz group and 13 away from a full sog gruul group, not mentioning, neither dream, soul and ice signed up. and we have a couple that are finishing their attunements and want to raid, lusingan is one of them. rumeran should also be joining us. considering all this, an alliance wont be needed (which is good in a way, since managing just our members is better then having to face others, not to mention fighting on drops)
we do need some more ppl in imo.
but rumeran has left
Quote from: Gorion;205143today we had 12 signups for the raid, thats 8 away from an sog 2nd kz group and 13 away from a full sog gruul group
For the Gruul group, that is
more than twice the amount of people that were signed up, and increasing a raid group with that many people aren't something that should be taken lightly upon.
Quote from: Gorion;205143considering all this, an alliance wont be needed
That isn't really my point. On the last meeting, we all discussed and agreed on that recruiting so that we have roughly half a Gruul group and than find somebody to have a temporary alliance with for Gruul would be the way to go. That should be the thing we should focus on than iom.
As I said earlier, it can be discussed if we perhaps should try to aim a bit higher, but might I than emphasize the
discussion part. At least make a thread about it so we can share some opinions on the matter and perhaps come to a new conclusion, and not that it as a "discussion" in the middle of an application evaluation. It is all about communication!
But seeing that Aloha turned down the invite, I guess the rogue spot is now open, so Blackmetal could get a chance. I still think that it was a really sucky application - didn't seem like he put any effort or feelings into it at all, which I believe say a bit about the person - but as others have mentioned, this is not the time to be picky.
I think then, with Bob agreeing, that we invite Blackmetal and keep a close eye on him during his initiation period.
invited 9/11/07
Per update in the SOP-thread, and also mentioned in another thread in there, we should keep the application thread in the WIP section during the initiation phase (and remember to suffix with INITIATE), so I moved it back here.
Should make it easier to keep overview of who the initiates are at any give time. Should make it easier to have a good evaluation of their initiation period :)
his 1st riad with us tonight, he performed resonably well.
i wisperd him when the raid was at its lowest point (just b4 maiden) he still seemed happy he seems to have a decent attitude. lets hope he wasnt ****ed off about the wipe fest tonight
Nah, he'll understand I think
did the same, as he said: its ok, ime having fun
re his performance: extremely good, he was extremely close to my aggro, something which badly needs some working on. it seems
Possibly a little more experience of using Omen then?
what experiance of using omen are you mentioning.. ? its mostly the same thing as kth
but if you didn't use kth before, ever, it would take time getting used to...
he had kth mate. and switched to omen before attumen, its simple. you dont surpass the bar of the mt
initiate period extended upto 25/11/07, he left the guild then rejoined,