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Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Doorman on September 22, 2007, 11:50:52 AM
After much discussion, I democratically decided it was time to give the LX4s another outing. FE4R will have brave men grinning and wimps snivelling. FE4R? Pfft! :rockon:
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Aquilifer on September 22, 2007, 01:44:17 PM
"FE4R"... ha ha. Never thought about that. :D

Actually it is funny also because it is maybe the hardest track to master well. It is long and has many different kind of curves which seem to require bit different settings. Because it is also basicly figure "8" it is hard to utilize asymmetric setup. Then there are those high and steep curbs which plague all Fe tracks. (but the uphill section is one of my favorites)

And then you decide to group all that with one of the hardest cars to control with mouse...LX4. I don't know when but I'm sure I'm going to get my revenge some day :norty:
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: vobler on September 22, 2007, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Aquilifer;206914And then you decide to group all that with one of the hardest cars to control with mouse...LX4. I don't know when but I'm sure I'm going to get my revenge some day :norty:

I don't think there is a track that is easier with a mouse.... :-) Ahh the drag strip...

Please, get a wheel. You deserve it...
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Doorman on September 22, 2007, 02:46:22 PM
Quote from: Aquilifer;206914"FE4R"... ha ha. Never thought about that. :D
 
 
.....and then you decide to group all that with one of the hardest cars to control with mouse...LX4. I don't know when but I'm sure I'm going to get my revenge some day :norty:
It'll make a man of you! :D
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Doorman on September 22, 2007, 10:47:17 PM
What a cracking night's racing! No more to be said. Except that I'll probably lose 6 kilos in sweat by the end of the week! (I hope)
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: sulky_uk on September 22, 2007, 10:49:32 PM
good to race, was a hell of a lot better to watch after i crashed, well played stoney and ron for that cracking race
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Gone_Away on September 24, 2007, 05:54:16 PM
gebus that's a hard track.. I think I've only made it around twice before ending on the roof..
 
Can I get a car with a rubber top so I'll bounce back over? and you want to do HOW many laps??
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Aquilifer on September 24, 2007, 06:51:45 PM
@Ninja_Freak

Don't worry buddy.

I've driven LFS for quite long (both time and distance) and imho that IS the most difficult track in the game. There are lot of corners which you have to take with lot of risk (=insanely fast with little room for error) if you want to be competetive. I don't even need to mention that track would have never got through FIA inspection (that wall corner is plain stupid and IRL lethal).

That track can be frustrating even with an easier car than LX4, which is not the easiest car to use there.

Try to avoid driving over the curbs at first. And coast the tight corners. If you manage to get it well that way, then try to use little throttle in some corners and in some particular corners you should ride the curbs little bit (most notably the tight chicanes). Idea being that at first drive the track slower so that you can drive it w/o mistakes and lap by lap increasing speed.

If you have problems you might want to try some easier (less oversteery) setup (like my set is done so that I can drive it with mouse :rolleyes:) than what those teaminferno sets are (which are WR hotlap sets).
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Gone_Away on September 25, 2007, 10:26:27 AM
thanks for the tips..
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: bobvanvliet on September 26, 2007, 02:07:10 PM
By the way: How is the server going to work tomorrow? Will there be a password or will it just get locked after we've started? And what time is quali gonna start?

(Sorry for the stupid questions if I'm supposed to know this stuff, first time participant in your race... but I'm looking forward to 45+ minutes of sweating and hoping not to flip or spin that LX-thing :))
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Doorman on September 26, 2007, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: bobvanvliet;207526By the way: How is the server going to work tomorrow? Will there be a password or will it just get locked after we've started? And what time is quali gonna start?
 
(Sorry for the stupid questions if I'm supposed to know this stuff, first time participant in your race... but I'm looking forward to 45+ minutes of sweating and hoping not to flip or spin that LX-thing :))
First off, welcome. :) Get yourself on the server at about 8pm BST. We generally have a warm-up race before qualifying. Qualifying starts at about 8:30ish. Server becomes private immediately after quali. You don't need top know the password, just don't leave! :)
I see you've been on our server so you know what we're like. look forward to seeing you. Have fun.
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: bobvanvliet on September 27, 2007, 02:19:16 PM
Thanks.

See you there! :)
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: DuVeL on September 27, 2007, 02:22:48 PM
bobvanvliet,
From your name I'm making the assumption you're Dutch. Keep an eye out on the correct time.
 
Welkom & Mzzls
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: bobvanvliet on September 27, 2007, 04:55:32 PM
I might be Dutch (and slow), but not thick ;)

8 for you is 9 for me. Better time for me anyway. But thanks for the heads up!
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: bobvanvliet on September 27, 2007, 10:16:22 PM
That was fun, had one or two good fights on track and I was quite close to Stoney for almost the entire race. Couldn't really get my rhythm though, so only drove a few good clean laps.

Too bad about the 2 disco's. I would have been equally pleased with 4th place, with 3rd in sight.

( by the way, these LX4s really are my favourite cars to race in :rolleyes: )
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Iron on September 28, 2007, 11:18:19 AM
Awwww, the graphs are missing on the stat page. :( Any chance that they are just misplaced, or were they not produced in the first place?

This is how the race was from my point of view:

I was pretty nervous, during quali too, was thinking about everything but concentring on the race. I'm not using this as a cheap excuse, it's part of the race to keep your cool, if you can't then face the consequences. :)

Deetz messed up T1, and so did I, I lost 2 places, Bob and Stoney passed me. I struggled to get into rythm, so I falled back a little from them, then caught up again while they had some battles. I managed to pass Bob after the high speed curb hopping chicane as Bob messed it up a little if I remember correctly. Then next laps at the same place I caught up to Stoney as well, and overtook him because he missed the braking a bit at that hairpin leading to the bridge. Deetz and TheJAG was in sight, and because they were having a battle I could catch up a bit to them, at one point I was 2 secs behind them. But soon after they separated a bit, and I kept messing up that high speed chicane, I simply couldn't find the line which I had on previous evenings, so I dropped back.

The rest you know already, I got disconnected. I wasn't angry at all, neither sad. The few good moments I already had by then, otherwise I struggled with the car, I was hot (I forgot to take the top of my tracksuit off), I wished it would have been over already. Be careful what you wish for...

:)
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: OldBloke on September 28, 2007, 11:36:51 AM
Quote from: Iron;207831Awwww, the graphs are missing on the stat page. :( Any chance that they are just misplaced, or were they not produced in the first place?


The lap-by-lap graphs are now there but the race progress graph is still broken.
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Iron on September 28, 2007, 11:39:08 AM
That's a shame, that one is the best. :( Thanks anyway OldBloke. :)
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Doorman on September 28, 2007, 12:49:34 PM
From where I sat 15 laps wasn't enough. The race seemed to go by in a flash. It was only marred by the two disconnects. Deetz left the Ventrilo room slamming the door behind him. Everything went quiet and we just looked at each other. He came back into the room a little later and asked for his dummy back which we had to dig out of the wall like a .45 slug at a murder scene! :lmfao:
It must have been gutting for the both of you. Iron, you put a brave face on it, kudos.
LameDuck and I have a good tussle for the last laps but I eventually thrashed him into a snivelling mess!:yahoo:
 
An hon mench must go to Sulky who, despite several pittings for damage battled on bravely to finish. Another issue of kudos.
Sulky, you don't have to throw yourself into the scenery every time you get a blue flag!
Oh, he said he's getting his DFP out so my patronising days are short-lived. :sad:
Good racing all. On the South City Long. :thumbsup2:
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Aquilifer on September 28, 2007, 12:58:58 PM
Huh? Seems to work for me
http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/2007-09-27_21.52.42_results_race.html (http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/2007-09-27_21.52.42_results_race.html)

Nothing much to tell about my race. Except... I suffered very low fps in the start. In the red lights I had like 20fps, but towards the T1 it became a slide show. It was really hard to tell anymore how the car was going and so I spinned. I think somebody collided with me in the process (or I hit him, dunno which way). Really sorry for that. I decided to wait that people get some gap so I dropped to from 8th to 12th. After which I had fps 60-80 when there were not too many cars at the same time on my screen.

Then it was mostly just struggling to control the car for 15 laps. At one point I had some racing with Jas, but after I spinned at the uphill section he managed to pull too far, when I pitted.

In the future it might be good to limit the autox objects to minimum (which still prevents people from cutting), because every object slows the fps little bit. I don't know if that was the reason now, but just in case. Never I have seen that low fps for myself so it might have been something else.
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Iron on September 28, 2007, 01:34:39 PM
Quote from: Aquilifer;207848Huh? Seems to work for me
http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/2007-09-27_21.52.42_results_race.html (http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/2007-09-27_21.52.42_results_race.html)

The second (and last) graph is not loading, becuase the image is missing.

By the way, where can I find the replay, I looked at http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/skins/MPRs/ but it's not there. If it hadn't been recorded, could someone post it please?
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Aquilifer on September 28, 2007, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: Iron;207851The second (and last) graph is not loading, becuase the image is missing.

Click on the link buttons at top of the page. That way you can see the missing graph. (I seem to have only 1 graph missing)

Quote from: Iron;207851By the way, where can I find the replay, I looked at http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/skins/MPRs/ but it's not there. If it hadn't been recorded, could someone post it please?

Yeah, that would be good. I could check if the low fps is visible in the replay. If not then it might have been some program in the background.
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Iron on September 28, 2007, 02:13:49 PM
Quote from: Aquilifer;207853Click on the link buttons at top of the page. That way you can see the missing graph. (I seem to have only 1 graph missing)

Please post the link, I couldn't seem to find it. Just to be sure: we're speaking about a graph like this: http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/graph/2007-09-20_21.59.08_rpr.png
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Doorman on September 28, 2007, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: Iron;207858Please post the link, I couldn't seem to find it. Just to be sure: we're speaking about a graph like this: http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/graph/2007-09-20_21.59.08_rpr.png
Yep, that's the one Oldie's having problems with. But I know he'll sort it 'cos he's a tenacious old.....bloke. :)
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Aquilifer on September 28, 2007, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: Iron;207858Please post the link, I couldn't seem to find it. Just to be sure: we're speaking about a graph like this: http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/graph/2007-09-20_21.59.08_rpr.png

Nope...that you can't see. There is one graph (named "lap by lap"?) which you can see only by clicking the links at the top. There is one picture missing at the bottom of the page (shows X instead of the picture).
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Iron on September 28, 2007, 04:25:07 PM
That's what we were talking about all the time, mate. :)

By the way you don't need to click that link to see that lap by lap graph, it's there at the bottom of the page, that link just jumps there.
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Lameduck on September 28, 2007, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: Doorman;207847LameDuck and I have a good tussle for the last laps but I eventually thrashed him into a snivelling mess!:yahoo:
 

You know very well that I eased off so as not to upset a fellow pensioner.:narnar:
I wont go so easy on you next week.:boxing:
Snivelling mess indeed!
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: Aquilifer on September 28, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Iron;207886That's what we were talking about all the time, mate. :)

By the way you don't need to click that link to see that lap by lap graph, it's there at the bottom of the page, that link just jumps there.

mmmmm....looks like there is more odd in it. Indeed it shows "lap by lap graph" in the title text but i think it is not. If you click the lap by lap link it shows totally different graph. I ment the 'graph' wher it show everybody's lap time for each lap in a table.

EDIT: this http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/2007-09-27_21.52.42_lbl_race.html (http://lfs.deadmen.co.uk/lfs/stats/2007-09-27_21.52.42_lbl_race.html)
Title: LX4s at Fern Bay Black (rev)
Post by: sulky_uk on September 28, 2007, 11:08:08 PM
that was fun, and no ron i didnt throw myself into the follage at the siqn of a blue flag, my automatic get out of the way nervous tick forced my hands to turn the wheel too hard when the dreaded blue flag message appeared, only because i didnt want to impeed the racing cause i was a lap back, but kodos to you all cause every single player said thanks for me getting out of the way, even if it did envolve a 19 sec pit stop after it:)