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Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Doorman on December 28, 2007, 10:22:09 PM
REPLAYS  (http://www.finnglish.co.uk/Stuff/BL1_friday.zip)for Friday night. Grab them quick, they won't be there long!
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Iron on December 28, 2007, 10:40:25 PM
Thanks again mate!
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Niko on January 03, 2008, 06:10:24 PM
So the race isnt today?(just guessing because you put replays of Friday) :(
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Aquilifer on January 03, 2008, 06:47:17 PM
yes, it is today. Dunno why he wanted replays. Maybe he wants to spectate himself. :)
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Doorman on January 03, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
I know the answer to this. Because Iron wanted the replays of last Friday night when he had some success for a change. :sideways:
So nothing to see here, move along please.
Title: Engine damage
Post by: Romus on January 03, 2008, 10:24:03 PM
I think me and Oldie got engine damage early in the race. I was flat shifting, came aware of that when watching Deetz in the replay. Then I crossed the finish line after the 60min limit, but would have needed another lap to finish, but had no fuel left. I had 46% in the start. I guess that the bad engine consumed a bit extra.

EDIT: after reading this http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11421 I think the engine damage was caused by me changing to the lower gear too early (engine braking is it?). A bit strange though, since I don't remember of suffering from this so bad before.
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Aquilifer on January 03, 2008, 10:31:02 PM
Hmmm...interesting. I had 48% which was fine. I noticed week ago FXO doesn't like if you flat shift it all the time. The result wasn't damaged engine for me, but a heated clutch.
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Romus on January 03, 2008, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: Aquilifer;217440Hmmm...interesting. I had 48% which was fine. I noticed week ago FXO doesn't like if you flat shift it all the time. The result wasn't damaged engine for me, but a heated clutch.

my clutch was ok
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Aquilifer on January 03, 2008, 10:42:47 PM
Quote from: romus;217441my clutch was ok

If you flat shifted all the time that is really odd. :blink:

...unless...do you use manual clutch?
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Romus on January 03, 2008, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: romus;217439EDIT: after reading this http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11421 I think the engine damage was caused by me changing to the lower gear too early (engine braking is it?). A bit strange though, since I don't remember of suffering from this so bad before.

Quote from: Aquilifer;217443If you flat shifted all the time that is really odd. :blink:

...unless...do you use manual clutch?

I think it was caused by engine braking. No, I'm not currently using the clutch pedal.
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Iron on January 03, 2008, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: Aquilifer;217415yes, it is today. Dunno why he wanted replays. Maybe he wants to spectate himself. :)

Quote from: Doorman;217417I know the answer to this. Because Iron wanted the replays of last Friday night when he had some success for a change. :sideways:
So nothing to see here, move along please.

OK, you two get off my back now, will ya! :ranting2: :D

There were some... interessing moments, which I wanted to check.
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Armitage on January 03, 2008, 11:03:07 PM
Silly qustion time..........
 
 
Whats "flat shifting"?
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Lameduck on January 03, 2008, 11:19:07 PM
Quote from: Armitage;217449Silly qustion time..........
 
 
Whats "flat shifting"?
Changing up a gear without releasing the gas pedal. Not good for the clutch (usually)
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Armitage on January 03, 2008, 11:23:57 PM
cheers
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: OldBloke on January 04, 2008, 12:09:00 AM
As Romus says - engine was damaged (clutch was fine) but the reason is a complete mystery as I did nothing different to what I've been doing all week. :sideways:
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Iron on January 04, 2008, 08:18:17 AM
I suspect it's all Doorman's doing.
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Jamin on January 04, 2008, 10:05:03 AM
Quote from: OldBloke;217464As Romus says - engine was damaged (clutch was fine) but the reason is a complete mystery as I did nothing different to what I've been doing all week. :sideways:

Watching the replay, on lap three at the end of the long straight, you engine braked past 9k (7k redline) and a slight missfire can be heard at the redline afterwards. By lap thirteen when everyone was catching you up, your engine was sounding rough throughout the rev range compared to Voblers. I must have damaged mine early on too as it didn't feel as lively as usual.

I guess the engine damage bit has changed in the recent patch and become more subtle. It used to pop and miss when damaged but now it's more an engine tone change with a few missfires and down on power.
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: OldBloke on January 04, 2008, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: o000o;217481Watching the replay, on lap three at the end of the long straight, you engine braked past 9k (7k redline) ...

Ahhh. Well spotted Watson. :thumb:

I'd still like an indicator of engine damage as I certainly didn't detect the audible difference.
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Armitage on January 04, 2008, 10:31:19 AM
Quote from: OldBloke;217482Ahhh. Well spotted Watson. :thumb:
 
I'd still like an idicator of engine damage as I certainly didn't detect the audible difference.

 
I think the indicator is the long line of traffic behind you:narnar:
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Jamin on January 04, 2008, 10:31:51 AM
Quote from: OldBloke;217482I'd still like an idicator of engine damage as I certainly didn't detect the audible difference.

How about using the other cars are catching and passing you as a hint :roflmao:
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Lameduck on January 04, 2008, 10:55:50 AM
Quote from: o000o;217481Watching the replay, on lap three at the end of the long straight, you engine braked past 9k (7k redline) and a slight missfire can be heard at the redline afterwards.

Plese dont mention redline, it gives me the creeps.
By the way do Shoemakers use Evostick?
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: OldBloke on January 04, 2008, 11:33:17 AM
Quote from: OldBloke;217482I'd still like an indicator of engine damage as I certainly didn't detect the audible difference.

OK. OK. It was a particularly stupid thing to say given the circumstances :D
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: BigFatCat on January 04, 2008, 11:54:42 AM
Quote from: o000o;217492How about using the other cars are catching and passing you as a hint
Um, is engine damage permanent on your install then, as I've been suffering this for years? :crying:
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Doorman on January 04, 2008, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;217482Ahhh. Well spotted Watson. :thumb:

I'd still like an indicator of engine damage as I certainly didn't detect the audible difference.
I reckon it's an audible client side indicator that goes something like "I don't seem to have any power" and "I can only get 130 down the back straight" and the one I like the best is "I'm being left behind by Doorman" :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Armitage on January 04, 2008, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: Doorman;217519I reckon it's an audible client side indicator that goes something like "I don't seem to have any power" and "I can only get 130 down the back straight" and the one I like the best is "I'm being left behind by Doorman" :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

 
 
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
Title: FXOs at Blackrock. Er..wood
Post by: Aquilifer on January 05, 2008, 05:18:23 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;217464As Romus says - engine was damaged (clutch was fine) but the reason is a complete mystery as I did nothing different to what I've been doing all week. :sideways:

I remember overtaking you in the race at the back straight. You were going like a snail. I remember wondering that you must have had some sort of problems.

At least before the patch FXR was notorious for blowing off a valve or two if you kept flat shifting. In longer races this was clearly noticeable as your top speed dropped towards end of the race (and occasiaonal popcorn sounds from the engine). In the new patch with clutch heat etc, I try to get rid of the habit. I think all cars more powerful than XFG and XRG gets clutch heat so much you'd better not flat shift (so often at least). This is not so for cars which are ment to be flat shifted.