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Forum Archive 2023 => Games of old that no longer float our boat........ => dMw Gaming => Gaming Archive => Counter Strike 1.5 => Topic started by: Tutonic on July 30, 2002, 07:00:19 PM

Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Tutonic on July 30, 2002, 07:00:19 PM
My voice comms recently stopped working properly for no apparent reason.

Basicly its gone super choppy, my voice cuts on and off repeatedly making anything I say instant gibberish.

I've run the voice comm setup program in windows and my voice comes through perfectly on it, and the windows sound recorder records from my mic fine aswell. I've also tried adding the "+voice_dsound 1" command to my half-life command line.

Please, DONT just say "blah blah reinstall windows/CS/soundcard" because my soundcard drivers all all up to date, i've run windows XP update and download all the patches i need, and reinstalling half-life would mean downloading all the patches from scratch.

System:
Windows XP Pro
Creative Sound-Blaster Audigy Soundcard

Help :(
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: sheepy on July 30, 2002, 07:25:08 PM
tut ill burn all the patchs on to cd if u want, i have the exe's on my comp.
or u can just w8 till i12 to do that by dl'ing it at 5meg a sec.
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Stryker on July 30, 2002, 07:26:16 PM
ur now alone that happened to me a few versions back... voice went shit all on its own....  just like my lack of decals....

sorry mate, other than saying its happened before I can't help with a solution as I spent hours messing with the sound when that happened and never found an answer.
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Archer on August 11, 2002, 04:31:11 PM
Happened across this thread as I was passing through. I had exactly what yu describe and the cure is to raise your cmdrate and updaterate. Yu prob messed with these settings at some time and forgot all about it possibly to combat a high choke. If they are too low then the voice comms become a load of choppy burbling. It took me a while to find this solution so I hope it is the right one for you or you will be very fed up trying to solve it.

Archer
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Tutonic on August 13, 2002, 02:05:04 PM
All fixed!

Archer has skillz :)
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: OldBloke on August 25, 2002, 10:44:28 AM
Calling Blueball. Over.

Hey BB. You have exactly the same symptoms on your comms as described by Tutonic. So:

By looking at your ping I'm assuming you're on Broadband so make sure you have the following:

rate 20000
cl_rate 20000
cl_updaterate 40
cl_cmdrate 40
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2002, 05:42:44 PM
:lol:

I'll go check now. Thanks
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2002, 05:48:55 PM
:?

I had rate 8000, cl_updaterate 60 and cl_cmdrate 60. Seemingly, cl_rate doesn't do anything but I've stuck it in anyway. Thanks for prompt.

The comms is really annoying me (and I'm sure you). I have good kit:
Plantronics headset (not the cheap one), Soundblaster Audigy Platinum card on a PIII 1000 with 768mb RAM and a 120Gb IDE RAID 0 disk stripe.

All that and I still sound like a fart in a bean tin!!!!
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: OldBloke on August 25, 2002, 05:55:58 PM
Bugger !

I'm pretty sure the numbers you had weren't the cause.

Right. I'm off to trawl the web for the answer.

BRB.
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: OldBloke on August 25, 2002, 05:57:18 PM
HAHA!

Which key do you have bound to 'voice'?
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2002, 06:30:45 PM
left hand CONTROL key
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2002, 06:48:12 PM
"Guest" was me BTW. i've contracted "Doormanitis"  :wink:
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: OldBloke on August 25, 2002, 07:30:03 PM
Searches reveal:

QuoteClick Start > Run > DxDiag > Sound > Slide Audio Acceleration To Off. Sorted. WinXP dosent like DX audio in some apps!

Checked and my acceleration is on full so dunno if this will help.

Quote add the following to the shortcut command line +voice_dsound 1
e.g. E:hlhl.exe -console -game cstrike -nojoy -noipx +voice_dsound 1

You're probably already aware of this one.

QuoteDid you update the XP drivers (WDM) from Creative ?

Latest Audigy drivers installed?

QuoteUnplug any device in the sound card's game/midi port

That's new.

Quote... try another key ...

Hmmm. Maybe.

QuoteMake sure your beard isn't interfering with your MIC.

LOL

Well that should keep you busy. Don't forget that you can use:

voice_loopback 1

to hear how others hear you.

GL

http://www.kratzer.at/hs/voicecom.htm (http://www.kratzer.at/hs/voicecom.htm)
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2002, 01:46:41 PM
Thanks for pointers, been doing some investigating but haven't found anything conclusive  :cry:

Already had "+voice_dsound 1" and I've got the latest drivers from creative. Didn't have anything in the midi/game port and my beard is neatly trimmed. I have the mic about 1.5 to 2 inches from my mouth but varying the distance makes no difference.

I started up one of the recording apps (cretaive recorder i think) and I can record from the mic very clearly with no choppiness. Therefore, I set up a local server and set voice loopback to 1 to hear what happens and it pulses on and off. Even the name tag on the right of the screen pulses on and off although the little loudspeaker icon shows steadily. I thought, Hmmm, wonder if it is the typematic rate setting so went into the bios and checked, it was enabled. I disabled it and tried again. "F" all difference  :evil:  

I thought, maybe I have a duff key on the keyboard so I bound +voicerecord to another key (i tried about 5 keys in total) but again, still chopping. I then thought, maybe the keyboard is shagged, so I swapped my IBM keyboard for a Compaq and it still does the same thing.

I then tried plugging the microsphone onto the mic2 connector on the Audigy breakout box to see if it was "mic in" on the card that was at fault but no, that made no difference either.

 :idea: I have therefore decided to paint the room a different colour to see if that helps :twisted:
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: smite on August 26, 2002, 03:32:54 PM
Ive found that [size=18]"BLUE" helps.
My sound is definetly better and as an added bonus it has muted my missus whenever she walks in  :twisted:
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: OldBloke on August 26, 2002, 03:53:25 PM
BB - What about the 'Audio Acceleration' option?
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2002, 08:51:20 PM
Tried it, no joy. I had a look at creative's forums and they suggest that there are issues between the audigy and non-ACPI cards in XP. My NIC was a 3com 905B-TX which is seemingly not ACPI compliant. I swapped it for a Compaq NC3123 and lo and behold, nothing changed.

I uninstalled the audigy drivers, pulled the card, rebooted, shut down, replaced the card and reinstalled the drivers, same shit!

In desparation I downloaded the driver update on the website and applied that. It is actually older than the drivers I have on CD but guess what, IT WORKED!!!!!!!

Thanks to all of you who have given suggestions and especially to those of you who have had to put up with half my conversation (although some may say that you have been lucky).

Cheers and see you on homer
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: OldBloke on August 26, 2002, 10:37:40 PM
Nice one mate. 8)
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Dr Sadako on August 27, 2002, 12:04:00 PM
QuoteCalling Blueball. Over.

Hey BB. You have exactly the same symptoms on your comms as described by Tutonic. So:

By looking at your ping I'm assuming you're on Broadband so make sure you have the following:

rate 20000
cl_rate 20000
cl_updaterate 40
cl_cmdrate 40

Well the maximum number for rate is 9999 ... so I really don't know what 20000 will do for ya. ;)
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: OldBloke on August 27, 2002, 12:19:53 PM
Quote.... well the maximum number for rate is 9999 ... so I really don't know what 20000 will do for ya. ;)

That's what I thought. Then I read the Summerblue article and, basically, took their advice.

http://www.summerblue.net/games/cs_report/...ion_config.html (http://www.summerblue.net/games/cs_report/2_4_communication_config.html)

Quote... a broadband connection will always have more bandwidth available than the server can provide. As such, rate and cl_rate both need to be set to their maximum values so that the client is using all available bandwidth.

The maximum value for both rate and cl_rate is 20,000.
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2002, 04:37:35 PM
which is where I got my info too. Seems to work to be honest. One of the many articles goes as far as to say the cl_rate was replaced by rate and that setting cl_rate was pointless. Cannot remember which article though as i read everything I could find to try and fix this :-)
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Trip on August 29, 2002, 11:10:06 PM
YAY!!! i just had the same prob and fixed gr8 job Archer  :P
Title: oh crap
Post by: Trip on August 30, 2002, 01:46:51 AM
I take that back it dont work again, i used the same ones as Oldbloke put... anyone know why it dont work???
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Trip on August 30, 2002, 02:13:12 PM
come on some one help i really want to use mic......... :x  :x  8O  8O  :x  :twisted:  :evil:  :?:  :?:  :roll:
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2002, 07:36:28 PM
I'm using 12000, 40 and 40. Ignore cl_rate!
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Trip on August 30, 2002, 08:13:58 PM
QuoteI'm using 12000, 40 and 40. Ignore cl_rate!
thanks it worked, dont know if it will change back tho....
Title: Voice comms, help needed!
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2002, 08:56:37 PM
Yehaaaa, payback. I got lots of help from guys here so glad to be able to give some back. Glad it's working trip :-)