Dead Men Walking

Forum Archive 2023 => dMw's Community Centre => Community Archive => Dead Men Folding => Topic started by: delanvital on May 26, 2008, 09:48:29 PM

Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: delanvital on May 26, 2008, 09:48:29 PM
The trend is dropping output over the past 1-2 months or so. If you have recently disabled the f@h client, please fire it up again :) BB made this excellent post for how to easy start and stop the f@h service:

http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=9992

If you have any questions how to make a quick batch-file or something similar to dis- or enable the service by simply doubleclicking, feel free to PM me or make a post here :)

Regardless, it could be interesting to know why people have stopped folding. Was the machine running hot? f@h is a waste of time? If you would like to tell why you have stopped folding, then please do :)
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Jamoe on May 26, 2008, 09:56:45 PM
Well you know about the problems I had at the LAN, which is why I stopped folding. New rig ha almost doubled my out put :)
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: delanvital on May 26, 2008, 09:58:07 PM
Quote from: Jamoe;232478Well you know about the problems I had at the LAN, which is why I stopped folding. New rig ha almost doubled my out put :)

Sounds good. Remember to update (read: brag about) your equipment inventory :flirty:
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Lameduck on May 27, 2008, 12:06:52 AM
I have access to several computers that are not connected to a network or to the internet. Is there any method of utilising them by transferring completed work to an 'internet' computer for onward transmission ?
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: T-Bag on May 27, 2008, 12:48:24 AM
Quote from: Lameduck;232488I have access to several computers that are not connected to a network or to the internet. Is there any method of utilising them by transferring completed work to an 'internet' computer for onward transmission ?

How hard is it to network the machines? Transfering onto pen drives it probably possible, and from there it would upload using the F@H client on the internet computer. But it might fairly easy to connect the computers to the internet somehow (eg Wireless, Mains ethernet adapters which use you house's wiring as ethernet, moving/upgrading of hub)

Transfering onto pen drives etc each time would slow your folding down quite a bit unless there's an offline version that goes through multiple WU's that I've not seen.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: delanvital on May 27, 2008, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: Lameduck;232488I have access to several computers that are not connected to a network or to the internet. Is there any method of utilising them by transferring completed work to an 'internet' computer for onward transmission ?

You could, as explained, copy the f@h folder to a USB stick and then run that f@h app from another, connected PC, in order to turn in the WU. A WU usually takes less than a week to complete, so a weekly handin could be possible.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Carr0t on May 27, 2008, 02:36:26 PM
With respect to output dropping, are there any known bugs with this or have they made work units more complex and thus harder to complete? I'm sure my production used to be in the 900 or so range, sometimes if I was lucky pushing over 1k per day for a day or so. Now i'm lucky to hit 700. I've not changed anything at my end, i'm still using 2 dual-core boxes running Ubuntu Linux with 2 single thread F@H clients running on each box. But if you look at my monthly average from back in '07 I was averaging 27-30k a month, now it's more like 20-23k.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: DuVeL on May 27, 2008, 02:44:07 PM
I saw the same.
Thought it was just me loosing a few old workcomputers or such.
Ahwell, fold on.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: delanvital on May 27, 2008, 03:07:10 PM
Although at a much smaller scale, the same has happened to me. Perhaps the points-system has been revised for regular PCs.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Lameduck on May 27, 2008, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: delanvital;232517You could, as explained, copy the f@h folder to a USB stick and then run that f@h app from another, connected PC, in order to turn in the WU. A WU usually takes less than a week to complete, so a weekly handin could be possible.
I envisage using my own PC as the 'master' computer and placing a copy of f@h on each 'slave'.OK, so that bit is easy, but when the WU's are completed on the slave computers which file do I copy and paste to 'master' app in order to send in results? Or do I copy the whole folder back to the 'master' (which is already running f@h by the way)? :help2:
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: delanvital on May 28, 2008, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: Lameduck;232627I envisage using my own PC as the 'master' computer and placing a copy of f@h on each 'slave'.OK, so that bit is easy, but when the WU's are completed on the slave computers which file do I copy and paste to 'master' app in order to send in results? Or do I copy the whole folder back to the 'master' (which is already running f@h by the way)? :help2:

See, that is when I run out of details. I know Whitey has done this. However, I would recommend having separate folders for each of the f@h folders on the slaves. When they are done, copy the entire folder from the slave to the specific folder on your net-PC and fire up the client program from each folder, one at a time. So in short, copy the entire folder from each slave, possibly to a memory stick, and fire up the client.

Whitey - how does that sound?
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Whitey on May 28, 2008, 12:27:15 PM
That is the process I followed but it didn't work for me.  That's why my output has fallen so much.  I don't see why it didn't work as it said the units had posted but I never got the points from them.  

The firewall at work has stopped me being able to post and due to power usage/costs my PC's at home only fold when I am using them for other things.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Thulsa Doom on May 28, 2008, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Whitey;232661The firewall at work has stopped me being able to post and due to power usage/costs my PC's at home only fold when I am using them for other things.

Ditto.

Must admit I'm not sure about the benefits of leaving a PC on just to fold, when it would normally be switched off.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Jabbs on May 28, 2008, 08:03:43 PM
Quote from: delanvital;232656See, that is when I run out of details. I know Whitey has done this. However, I would recommend having separate folders for each of the f@h folders on the slaves. When they are done, copy the entire folder from the slave to the specific folder on your net-PC and fire up the client program from each folder, one at a time. So in short, copy the entire folder from each slave, possibly to a memory stick, and fire up the client.

Whitey - how does that sound?

Sounds complicated - How also would the non-network connected slaves get their assigments?
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Jamoe on May 28, 2008, 09:07:55 PM
Quote from: Jabbs;232700Sounds complicated - How also would the non-network connected slaves get their assigments?

I assuem when you ran the client to upload the WU you would also let it download its next one, then transfer back to the non-networked machine.

TBH, it sounds like to much effort to be worth it.
Title: Come on people, please fire up those clients :)
Post by: Jabbs on May 28, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
Quote from: Jamoe;232708I assuem when you ran the client to upload the WU you would also let it download its next one, then transfer back to the non-networked machine.

TBH, it sounds like to much effort to be worth it.

Agreed - me @ set up a network :boxing: