Okay, here's the story in short;
From my apartments governing board we're suposed to get emails and such but me and all the others don't seem to receive them.
The guy who sends them has an hotmail-account as have I.
The other day I wrote an email to the board that we didn't receive emails and such and 1 of the board replied with this;
Hi Pete,
I've heard of more problems of hotmailadresses receiving emails.
The cause is probably port 25 as I've been told ("spam-port").
Use another port for receiving mail. Google for it....
So guys, I need a reply like I know my computerstuff and with what I can diss him with.
Best reply gets a pint at next LAN.
I was thinking of something like this;
It could be your port 25 I reckon which wont let it go through, another thing that could help is opening your "Windows"
Yes, SMTP is known 1337 hax. :rolleyes: Maybe it stands for SpaMTraP?
Tell him you've opened ports 143, for IMAP, 110 and 995 for POP3, and port 80 for RPC over HTTP. And 25 and 465, 102, 135.
Tell them you're using an Intel Gigabit NIC, without a cable so it's more secure and flexible.
If they ask what version of Windows you're using, you can say they're double glazed.
:lmfao: Me likes, pint anyway at the LAN for you. :)
Must say, I'm awaiting a really good one from Benny...
I want a pint at the LAN:cheers:
Quote from: Venom;235289I want a pint at the LAN:cheers:
Your quest is posted above.
As said, pint for the best reply but BFC was my neighbour last LAN. Was a good laugh with him so...
Quote from: DuVeL;235280The guy who sends them has an hotmail-account as have I.
I'm sorry, are you saying here that he's sending stuff from his hotmail account to yours, hotmail being a web-based mail client so the port 25 etc mail traffic never comes anywhere near your own network, you just see what's on the server via standard http traffic, and he's trying to blame you blocking the standard mail ports for the mail not getting through?
:blink:
Or can you connect to hotmail and pull your mail to a local client like Outlook or similar? (If so I was unaware of it). Still, if you're getting *any* other mail that way, and just not his, it can't be a problem with you blocking ports.
*Anything* to hotmail, if it's not getting through ever and other mails are then chances are it's his ends fault, not yours, as any bug such as this on the hotmail servers would result in many thousands of users having an issue.
If he's having an issue sending to lots of different hotmail accounts, and he's sending from his own mail server rather than his hotmail address, then the first thing i'd suggest is: Make sure his server has a reverse DNS entry set up (IP -> hostname, as opposed to vice versa). Hotmail silently drops all mail from servers without a valid reverse DNS, as they're *normally* whored machines/spambots on dynamic ADSL addresses. I'm sure i've mentioned that before on these forums, cos it took me ages to work out when it was causing me hassle.
Quote from: Carr0t;235296I'm sorry, are you saying here that he's sending stuff from his hotmail account to yours, hotmail being a web-based mail client so the port 25 etc mail traffic never comes anywhere near your own network, you just see what's on the server via standard http traffic, and he's trying to blame you blocking the standard mail ports for the mail not getting through?
:blink:
Correct, that's why I lol'd last night when reading his email...And it got to me! :roflmao:
Tell him that you have asked Hotmail to change the port number that their server runs on but they refused. In the meantime you will continue to use the old fashioned method of Port 80 for webmail - port 80 is much slower than port 25 and if they ran the whole internet on port 25 it would be great - really fast, no more slow web pages :)
Ask him nicely if he has any other suggestions.
Solve it the old fashioned way: A nice lump of 2x2 normally gets the message across.
did u check the spam folder? :narnar:
Quote from: Jamoe;235315did u check the spam folder? :narnar:
No beer for Jamoe next LAN then...:devil:
AND no christmascard!
Just tell him Benny's on his way? with Fat Cats 2 x 2
Quote from: Browne;235320Just tell him Benny's on his way? with Fat Cats 2 x 2
pfft, rather have Benny's 3x12.
Anyway, my previous comment was half serious, as I always find legit emails in the spam folder with hotmail. Although I guessed you would have checked that already, hence the smilie :D.
Have you sent a reply yet?
Quote from: BlueBall;235305Tell him that you have asked Hotmail to change the port number that their server runs on but they refused.
I second this one :devil:
Quote from: Carr0t;235376I second this one :devil:
Me too, that was funny :D
Quote from: Jamoe;235325Have you sent a reply yet?
Not yet :norty:
Here goes;
I've tryed opening port 25, ports 143, for IMAP, 110 and 995 for POP3, and port 80 for RPC over HTTP. And 25 and 465, 102, 135 and also asked Hotmail to change the port number that their server runs on but they refused
Next time the mail should arive I reckon...
Port 25 Blocking
Many ISPs are blocking what is called "Port 25" which is the port used to send e-mail. They are doing this to cut down on the amount of spam that is sent from their networks.
All e-mail sent via the Internet is routed through the port 25, the channel used for communication between an e-mail client and an e-mail server. Even though port 25 blocking will probably become an industry standard, however, the filter can create problems for e-mail servers and block legitimate e-mail as well as spam.
Port 25 blocking allows ISPs to block spam sent out through their networks, but it tends to punish the innocent that have a need to send through e-mail servers other than those belonging to their ISP. The ISPs that block port 25 require their SMTP server to be used instead of the remote SMTP server or a SMTP server running on your computer.
How the port 25 is used
All e-mail sent via the Internet is routed through port 25. When an e-mail server that runs on your computer delivers messages, it always uses port 25 to transmit data to remote e-mail servers. Therefore, if your ISP is blocking the port, your messages will not get through. There are two different ways the port 25 is being used by PostCast Server:
Incoming Connections
PostCast Server uses port 25 to accept incoming connections from e-mail clients. You can freely change that value in both server and client program and everything will continue to work because all TCP/IP connections are directed to your computer. Unless you block connections to your computer, the program will accept messages using any port number you specify (1-65535).
Outgoing Connections
PostCast Server also uses the port 25 for sending. It connects to remote servers and delivers the messages from the Outbox folder. Exactly the same rules apply except that every remote server expects the connection ONLY on port #25. This is the standard port number and while you can change the port number in the program to allow clients to send the messages internally, the remote servers always use port 25. If your ISP blocks remote connections to port 25, you cannot send any messages. PostCast Server will not be able to connect to the remote servers.
ISPs that block Port 25
This list contains some of the major ISPs that block port 25 on their servers:
Duvels Computer ;-)
AT&T (can be unblocked at the request)
MindSpring
BellSouth
MSN
CableOne
NetZero
Charter
People PC
Comcast ATTBI
Sprynet
Cox
Sympatico.ca
EarthLink
Verio
Flashnet
Verizon
MediaOne
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Sulky, the thing is, the guy just didn't send any messages. :flirty:
He just thinks he knows his stuff about everything.
He even thinks he knows the stuff I do for work better then me while he's only a finance-consultant.
I allready ran into him several times now while I'm not even living in the apartment yet...
maybe he fancies you :boff:
Quote from: Luminance;235520maybe he fancies you :boff:
:blink:
*Hits Lumi with a large trout...
(http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/art2004/0714album/0714r_trout_o_brian.jpg)
She can hit me with a large trout any day!!! :norty:
Say:
"I'm sorry I've added you to my allowed contacts list in hotmail now, I'd downloaded a list of people to block because the arrogant C**** and you were number 3 on the list, it should work this time you send it"
"Right, I've opened port 25, you wouldn't believe how lax the security a "XYZ" is, I ported in with my Amstrad emailer with the password "Default" and it let me straight in. If you've any queries about your new bill I wouldn't bother asking it'll just flag up all the other changes, if the government call I'm away on business"
"Port 25? Thats irrelevant, are you sure you didn't forget to click send? Check your drafts. Don't worry, it's a mistake alot of armatures make even with these easy web clients. Much simpler that when I learnt how to program in Symbian to download my emails using IMAC on my Nokia (much better than POP3, I prefer leaving my messages centralised) because my train was 30mins late and I wanted to wish my Brother Happy Birthday"
Or any other unnecessarily long winded story which puts you up while subtlely mocking them.
You really want a beer at the LAN T-bag, lol.
I had my laugh with the guy as he replied back to me;
Ah okay, I think it should work now.
A short reply but I think h knows I was dissing him.
Quote"Right, I've opened port 25, you wouldn't believe how lax the security a "XYZ" is, I ported in with my Amstrad emailer with the password "Default" and it let me straight in. If you've any queries about your new bill I wouldn't bother asking it'll just flag up all the other changes, if the government call I'm away on business"
:roflmao: i like this one the most :D