Dead Men Walking

Whehey!

A win!

http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=99257&custid=16961

It was a low strenght of field though. But still a win.

Well done Verner. :thumb:

How are you doing then Oldie? I see no stats on you?

Quote from: vobler;236700How are you doing then Oldie? I see no stats on you?

I've cancelled my subscription. I'll be back when I feel the product is at a stage of development worthy of a monthly subscription. With its current lack of features it's not there yet and, all things considered, LFS is still a superior product.

Sorry to say, I'm of the same opinion. :sad:

13th Week Racing Schedule Announced!

As many of you already know, the official FIRST Sporting Code, the set of rules by which all iRacing.com members are expected to abide, calls for an annual competition calendar of four 12-week seasons. What you may not know is that we've always envisioned a 13th race week at the end of each season. The 13th week is intended to be a time for championship races and other special events, but with this being our first season since taking the service live (and with most of our members having joined well after mid-season), this time, we've decided to just focus on having fun.

Starting Saturday, July 26, at midnight GMT, iRacing members of all license levels will have four new one-week series to choose from:

"Solstice vs. Legends, Battle of the Titans"
"Late Model Madness at Lowe's Motor Speedway"
"SK Modified North and South Shootout"
"Sabbatical in a Radical."
Each series will be open to all license levels and will feature larger fields - up to 40 Late Models at Lowe's! - and slightly longer race distances than the standard series we've been running. Participation will NOT affect your iRating or Safety Rating, BUT that's meant to minimize pressure and maximize fun, not create chaos. We still expect you to adhere to the FIRST Sporting Code.

There will not be any Time Trial or Qualifying sessions during the week, and series and club stats will not be kept. The only record of these unofficial races and your performance in them will be the results sheets that appear on your own Stats page (and, of course, your own vivid accounts of your on-track brilliance, as well as screen shots and frame-capture videos).

With these four series, we've tried to strike a balance between opportunities to race and have fun using content included in the basic subscription package and the chance for new challenges with cars and tracks in which members have expressed a lot of interest. For complete series schedules, watch for a 13th Week Schedule post in the forums under iRacing.com Announcements.

Remember, the Fall 2008 Season will begin on Saturday, August 3, at midnight GMT (for complete information, see the Fall 2008 Series and Session Schedules post in the forums under iRacing.com Announcements). The fall schedule includes more frequent races in the rookie series, the addition of Class C series for both road and oval categories and several other small improvements. Our plan is to add even more series and sessions, but we'll do so progressively to avoid fragmentation of the community.

We hope you enjoy both our first 13th Race Week and the start of the Fall 2008 Season.

Reminder!

Please remember the August 29th Annual Subscription Bonus Program. All members with one-year subscriptions in place as of that date will receive an additional $15 iRacing credit (on top of the $60 iRacing credit that you normally receive with the purchase of an annual subscription). For full information on this Bonus Program, please see the related post in the iRacing.com Announcements section of the member forums.

Well! I've just completed, yes, completed an 18 lap race in the Solstice V Legends Challenge. My mission was to finish without getting any penalties which I did! :yahoo: The atmosphere was like our 1 hour races in that there's no messing up! The conduct of the other drivers was impeccable although they all seem to have been higher class(D I think)
Anyway, I'm defo (:rolleyes:) up for another one of those.

Quote from: Doorman;237227Sorry to say, I'm of the same opinion. :sad:

I've changed my mind. :rolleyes:

Quote from: Doorman;238999The conduct of the other drivers was impeccable although they all seem to have been higher class(D I think)

I think you guys missed the promotion this time. You know that you need a safety rating of 3 to get promoted. Also you need to complete 2 races or 4 timetrials. The time trials is a good way to practice because it gives you Safety rating and allows you to get promoted. So it is possible to get promoted without racing one race.

Missing the last promotion means that you will be a rookie for 3 more months. But its not all that bad because as your Safety rating goes over 3 you can race the Advanced soltice, and with a rating of over 4 you can race the Skippy, both against rookies and the class D and C drivers. These will still be the major cars for the next three months.

Also this current week is most likely to be less enjoyable because none of the races counts the SR so people is bound to be more recless.


I'll be back soon.

So doing 18 laps without incident has done me no good at all? Hurrumph! :sideways:

Quote from: Doorman;239129So doing 18 laps without incident has done me no good at all? Hurrumph! :sideways:

Yes sorry about that.

BTW I saw that Stefano Casillo (Netkar Pro developer) is in iRacing. Seems he is driving the Soltice. Is he comparing a tintop in NkPro with the Solstice? Or is he just abandoning NKpro and getting som decent tintop racing? :)

I don't know, its just funny this race sim business. :)

Hey Doors!

I just had a race in the Legend in the Battle of the Titans series. Very difficult indeed. You told me you did a 01.32 on Vent so I thought that I should see if I could improve on that. The race had 20 starters and I ended up 7'th. And a 01.28.9 best time. :yahoo:

But then I looked up you time and that was 01:28.603. You beat me. Impressed! :clap:
:worship:

This is getting out of hand! I just did a Late model at Lowes. Remember out BF1 at Kyoto oval? Chickenfeed!
It was my first rolling start and my heart was going like a steam hammer! I was running fine up in the first 5-6 for several laps when I touched the wall. 4-5 cars passed me, I recovered my composure and set off in pursuit. I reeled in a couple of cars and was grinding down another when BOSH! It all went pear shaped and squirly and I came to a grinding halt, on the topside of the track. Difficulty was getting back to the inside so I could pit. I made it eventually, pitted, repaired and rejoined. Little did I know that I was disqualified for being English! Must have been that 'cos the rest of 'em were yanks!
Anyway, a bloody marvelous experience that will be repeated.

Quote from: Doorman;239447Anyway, a bloody marvelous experience that will be repeated.

Yeah I have also had "Days of Thunder". I got both the SK Modified and the Silver Crown. Both of them are very nice to drive, much smoother than the Late Model.

Battle of the Titans are at Laguna Seca today. See you there. Or at Lowes?

Quote from: vobler;239451Yeah I have also had "Days of Thunder". I got both the SK Modified and the Silver Crown. Both of them are very nice to drive, much smoother than the Late Model.

Battle of the Titans are at Laguna Seca today. See you there. Or at Lowes?

I must finish an oval, so Lowes I reckon, about 12:15 gmt (got to go shopping :() I'll be on our Ventrilo first.

Doors!

Here is some info on the SpecRacer Ford that I mentioned online.

http://www.iracing.com/carsTracks/cars.php?lc=1
http://www.iracing.com/newsEvents/article.php?id=36
http://www.hrace.com/srf.html
http://www.scca-enterprises.com/spec_ford.html

I spent bit time inspecting the car and track selections since you've been banging the drum so much...

It's even more US oriented than I thought. How many ovals those people need? More oval tracks than road courses? :blink:
Only one non US track (Silverstone) I think and many of those road courses look very...simple (like Road America..straight, 90degrees, straight, 90,...). Of those I looked, at least Infenion could be good in some config (AMA/IRL config) and of course Laguna Seca (could try if the famous corkscrew is fun). I couldn't see the elevation changes so maybe some of them have interesting uphill/downhill sections and bumps then. After ranking out all the boring ones I could find maybe 8-10 good road tracks.

The cars...not a fan of formula things, but all the others look very US too. The most interesting of those to me is the Radical and maybe the '34 Ford (lookalike) and Solstice. All others are either too nascar or look like those mud-oval cars.

I've already been ranting the license, ranking and racing systems so I'm not going to repeat those. Just makes me wonder what is so interesting there? You can't be oval fans... right? :g:

Quote from: Aquilifer;239498You can't be oval fans... right? :g:

You are right. Thats not why we are there, but it is great fun and much more difficult than one would think.

Me and Ron had a superb race today in the Late Models at Lowes (Oval or maybe Tri-oval). I was bumper to bumper, for the whole race, switching leaders many times. Ron was unlucky though and got damage.

It was not in my plans when joining but why choose not to do it when you are having so much fun? You really cant compare it to LFS. You also need a good wheel to feel what you are fighting against. Take the Silver crown car, it has a metanol fueled V8 engine outputting over 800 hp. The car weights 900kg. That car has some serious attitude. And the sound is awesome.

I really need to get my Oval Safety Rating over 4 so I can race that next week! "Days of Thunder " roll on!

Quote from: vobler;239492Doors!

Here is some info on the SpecRacer Ford that I mentioned online.

http://www.iracing.com/carsTracks/cars.php?lc=1
http://www.iracing.com/newsEvents/article.php?id=36
http://www.hrace.com/srf.html
http://www.scca-enterprises.com/spec_ford.html

Hey, that looks good. I'll buy that for $15 :)

Quote from: Aquilifer;239498You can't be oval fans... right? :g:

Didn't think I was and, to be fair, I'm not fully converted. But it is a hell of a lot more exciting than I thought it would be. It's one of those things where I could never convince anyone in a month of Sundays. You'd just have to try it.





And buy a wheel :norty:

Quote from: Doorman;239570Hey, that looks good. I'll buy that for $15 :)

Here is some videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXPFxX-hu6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XP2bM7h4zI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvjLFfl6QtQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JqT4QfDIn4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QG24B98jLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxaMkkfrVdk&feature=related

Quote from: Doorman;239572Didn't think I was and, to be fair, I'm not fully converted. But it is a hell of a lot more exciting than I thought it would be. It's one of those things where I could never convince anyone in a month of Sundays. You'd just have to try it.

I have in LFS. Didn't you see it in our oval combo? It is fun only if you have lot of people...lot more than in road tracks. Still you can't do that for long. Longer than a week and you start to think the way to do a 90 degrees turn right is to turn left 270 degrees.

Quote from: Aquilifer;239612I have in LFS. Didn't you see it in our oval combo? It is fun only if you have lot of people...lot more than in road tracks. Still you can't do that for long. Longer than a week and you start to think the way to do a 90 degrees turn right is to turn left 270 degrees.

I thought we were talking about iRacing. Oval racing in iRacing is a different kettle of fish. But like I said, I'll never convince you. :)  

Quote from: Aquilifer;239612I have in LFS.

I just said you can't compare it to LFS. I have learned that experience in LFS does not count. Try this; Its like comparing LFS with itself. One driven using the mouse or keyboard, the other using a FFB wheel. How can you compare the feel of that? Its not the same.

In case there's a worry that iRacing is taking the place of LFS, especially DeadMenRacing LFS :thumbsup2:, let me say that for my part that ain't gonna happen.:boxing: Nothing can replace the camaraderie and sportsmanship of dMr. :huggy:iRacing is simply another choice and a different take on the same subject, sim racing.

That's it, you can go back to what you were doing. :)

Quote from: Doorman;239725Nothing can replace the camaraderie and sportsmanship of dMr. :huggy:

I agree, but the camaraderie and sportsmanship of dMr is not locked to LFS. Its in the people, and dMr have changed sims before.

I feel that when (if) most of the dMr racers are racing iRacing and private leagues are available, it would not feel right to stick with LFS.

I agree completely. The drawback is, that very few people would splash out $$$$$! Because, let's be honest, it's an expensive option. Yes I know we could apply the "divide X amount of $$ by Y amount of hours played = chickenfeed" equation but that doesn't work for everyone. :sad:

Those of you unfortunate enough to hear my mitherings about the rotten race I had on iRacing tonight (and laughed behind their hands) will be pleased to know I had an absolute cracker later on. :narnar::narnar: A bit like Lamie and I last night :D

I suggest you try hard just to get the SR above 3 before Wednesday. Because then thousands of new rookies will come and make it even more difficult. With SR above 3 you can join me at Summit point. I have never seen wrecking at all. People make mistakes and they may take you out. Thats racing at all levels. The Advanced Solstice is also easier to drive as you can change the setup.

I had a race at Summit Point yesterday and got a second place. Not a very good race though. I pulled away from the pack and the leader pulled away from me. After week 2 in the season we all get separated into divisions and the rest of the season will group us by iRating and division. Got to be close racing then. But if there are few people wanting to race all gets in the same server regardless.

The Skip Barber this week at Infineon is very difficult. I'm not sure I will even try to race on that combo. We'll see.

Also the Safety Rating is getting harder and harder to maintain. Many current Class C drivers now see their Safety Rating drop very fast. Some are even worried they may not make Class B next season. I am currently Class D but with a SR above 4 it is as difficult as for Class C. You really have to think what you are doing. Good stuff.

Quote from: Doorman;240028Those of you unfortunate enough to hear my mitherings about the rotten race I had on iRacing tonight (and laughed behind their hands) will be pleased to know I had an absolute cracker later on. :narnar::narnar: A bit like Lamie and I last night :D

Yes, looked like you had a cracking race with a good start. Not lapped, increased your SR to 2.84 and even increased your iRating (does not show, but the guy behind you did so you did too).

Keep it up, when you go past 3.00 it takes you to 3.4x. That will give you a cushion in Advanced Solstice. Not that you would need that but.... :)

Good work Doorz. Nice to see you are racing the Advanced Solstice now. :yahoo:

Just put in a few laps time trial at Summit point. Getting there. :D

Quote from: Doorman;240249Just put in a few laps time trial at Summit point. Getting there. :D

I just had a race there. I was beaten by a girl. (Judith) :crying:

BTW, I forgot to mention a second place at VIR in the Skip Barber just before joining you at Aston Club yesterday.

I just love the Skippy! :yahoo:

But how people can do 2:10 is a complete mystery. But it does not matter how fast you are. The system sometimes gives you a chance to win and sometimes you are supposed to loose regardless of your rating.
Thats the beauty of this.

Just had a very good race. Advanced Solstice, 6th, same lap as winner. :D
A cracking battle between three of us with me as the filling in the sarnie. Talk about pressure! Oh and most important, no collisions or 'offs'

Quote from: Doorman;241337Just had a very good race. Advanced Solstice, 6th, same lap as winner. :D
A cracking battle between three of us with me as the filling in the sarnie. Talk about pressure! Oh and most important, no collisions or 'offs'

Good job Doors. I see todays number is 3.75.:D

If you want to prepare for the Skippy here is the setup I am currently using:
Brake bias 58%
Front cold pressure 179kPa (26psi)
Spring perch offset -1
Rear cold pressure 158kPa (23psi)
Rear antirollbar 3

I have found this to be a very stable but still agile setup. Further adjustments are done by adjusting front pressure. That adjusts how it turns in. Less pressure, more turn in, more pressure less turn in.

Tried it-liked it. :D Unfortunately I went from 3.94 to 3.86 because, you guessed it, I was run into again. :taz: Multi car pile up at T3, I managed to slow down and was picking my way through the debris when BOSH! So I was not only hit up the bum, I was pushed into someone else's bum, then off the track. You can imagine the points built up there! :angry:  Steering kaput, I reset and only suffered one minor 'off' from then on at the bloody corkscrew . :doh:

4.47! :woot2::yahoo::yahoo::woot2:

A nice win Verner. :thumbsup2:

http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=162082&custid=16961

Quote from: Doorman;241530A nice win Verner. :thumbsup2:

http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=162082&custid=16961

It was my most exciting race ever. Me and Robert was bumper to bumper for seven laps. I did all I could to pass but I could not make it stick (safely). Then on the brake in to T1 I was on the inside line, but not beside him. He was braking too late, I quickly got behind him again and as he slid out wide I overtook on the inside on the way out. Like a switchback maneuver. If you see the times after that I managed to go from 24.2's to 23.7's. So I slowly pulled away. I was pushing max and it felt great. I had one time I nearly lost it when I was thinking that this can be my first Skippy win. So this game reads your mind too... :D

Congrats with the SR Ron. Good job. Now get in the Skippy and sweat a little...

I had my first race this night. Though I felt that I should practice a bit more, I wanted to get the experience of being there among the strangers. After the lights turned to green I started accelerating, as the car ahead of me, but then suddenly it stopped and I had to do the same, but the guy behind me had planned his T1 attack already, so I had my first collision. I was the ham in the burger. Then there was another collision, and I don't know whose fault it was, but those things rarely happen with dMr guys. Overall, my SR climbed from ~2.6 to ~2.7.

Quote from: romus;241752I had my first race this night. Though I felt that I should practice a bit more, I wanted to get the experience of being there among the strangers. After the lights turned to green I started accelerating, as the car ahead of me, but then suddenly it stopped and I had to do the same, but the guy behind me had planned his T1 attack already, so I had my first collision. I was the ham in the burger. Then there was another collision, and I don't know whose fault it was, but those things rarely happen with dMr guys. Overall, my SR climbed from ~2.6 to ~2.7.

You're almost better to let everyone by and avoid the n00bs. Like I said, two clean races and you're home and dry. :) Apart from that, what did you think of the experience?

Quote from: romus;241752I had my first race this night. Though I felt that I should practice a bit more, I wanted to get the experience of being there among the strangers. After the lights turned to green I started accelerating, as the car ahead of me, but then suddenly it stopped and I had to do the same, but the guy behind me had planned his T1 attack already, so I had my first collision. I was the ham in the burger. Then there was another collision, and I don't know whose fault it was, but those things rarely happen with dMr guys. Overall, my SR climbed from ~2.6 to ~2.7.

I have had 62 starts in road cars, mostly races, and I have been lucky. No T1 pilups for me. I have had a few small incidents, but nothing to complain about.

The only advice I can give is stay out of trouble. I read a good post on that earier today.
Let me see if I can find a it on the Iracing Forum.

Here it is the "quote":

Racing Smarts AKA Savvy

There are a lot of ingredients in the recipe for winning races and series championships and all of them are crucial to success. That recipe includes a LARGE dose of racing savvy. You can do all of the right things preparing for the race but if you don’t do the right things during the race most of the time, your chances of winning it are very slim. Most people will preach about patience and after years of seeing it preached but very few people actually grasping the concept, I’ve decided to take a different approach. I’m not going to preach about patience; I’m going to preach about being smart.

First and foremost is to know your limitations and try your absolute hardest to never exceed them. You will, but you must try as hard as you can, not too. How do you know what your limitations are? Here’s an example, If you’re not absolutely positive that you can hold your line as you’re passing someone low going into a corner, you’ve exceeded your limitations. Even if you’ve successfully pulled off the maneuver, you still exceeded your limitations to that point. Every time you exceed your limitations but succeed, you’ll gain confidence until eventually you totally blow it and wipe out ½ the field which inevitably sets your confidence and your reputation way back, kind of like dieting by not eating. You lose weight for a while but put it all right back on because you’re starved. Confidence in racing should come just like everything else that provides true confidence, from your overall success, not individual instances of succeeding by exceeding. However, doing that offline against the AI is great practice.

Next, we need to discuss respect. Remember racing etiquette, if you don’t respect your competition, you’re not going to have much etiquette but even worse than that, you’re not very smart. There are lots of times when you’re going to have to have help from someone else on and off the track to win races. If you don’t respect anyone else in their endeavors to have fun with this, no one will respect or help you. If you think you can win races all on your own and enjoy this at the expense of others always taking and never giving, once again you’re not very smart and/or just plain masochistic. Now that we respect our competitors, and ourselves we can talk about the difference between being smart and being patient. If you’re a patient driver, you’re pretty darn smart. However, while you have to be patient, you also have to be aggressive. You’re a savvy driver when you know when and how to do both. I see lots of fast drivers, lots of very aggressive drivers, a few patient drivers, and very few savvy drivers. Most people rely on their own common sense when it comes to racing smarts but common sense to one person is not always common sense to another especially when it comes to racing online. A savvy driver realizes this and almost always does the smart thing without having to really think about it. Just like after hours of practice, you instinctively do the right thing if you get into the corner a little to hot, your reflexes take over and you deftly maneuver the car back to where you want to be. A savvy this by sizing up the competition. Forget how fast they are in practice. How smooth are they lap after lap? How nervous do they get when you get right on their rear bumper? How well can they hold their line lap after lap? How well can they checkup if you slow a little more than normal going into a corner. How aggressive are they when they want by? Do they move over easily if they can tell you want by or do they run as hard as they can to stay in front of you? All of these things can be found out during practice and if you don’t take the time to do this, you’re not very smart. This is why most pickup races are such a wreck fest; no one knows each other.

Lastly, let’s look at the smart thing to do in specific situations: A driver you don’t know very well gets up to your B pillar on either the inside or the outside going into a corner, back out of it and let them have it. Maybe you know you can hold your line but do you know if they can hold theirs? Sure you can blame them later for not holding their line and causing the accident but that doesn’t get those valuable points back does it? Conversely, a driver you do know that can hold their line in the same situation does this and you know you can hold your line, what do you do? This depends on what’s smart for you based on the overall objective of winning the race. Do you abuse your tires racing him/her through the corner, if you only have 5 laps to go, abuse those tires J If you have 50 to go, the smart thing to do may be to let then have the spot. This is a bit trickier, You’re in a pack of cars and you’re passing on the inside going into a corner with cars right above & behind you. You know you’re going to have to brake more to stay low and keep your line to pull off the pass. Do you go ahead and make that dive and take that chance? Almost never!!!! Why, have you ever heard of follow the leader syndrome? It’s difficult when cars are all stacked up to judge exactly where you’re at. If you brake later and harder than normal, the chances are good the person behind you is going to punt you into the upper deck even if he or she is a good driver. It’s imperative to be as smooth and as consistent as possible when in traffic especially going into the corners. If those around you want to take chances, back out of it and let them. You can wave as you pass low underneath that huge pileup. From the above 3 situations, you should get the idea that anytime you’re not sure what you, your car, or the other person is going to or can do, the smart thing for you is to be conservative or patient if you prefer to use that term. It doesn’t matter where you are at or where they are at on the track and how anyone else drives. There’s no rule that says you should be here or they should be there on any part of the track except during pace and caution laps. Regardless of what anyone else says, there is also no RULE that says anyone has to do anything on a racetrack except of course what’s mandated in the sim or by the league. Don’t ever assume anything. If you have to assume around drivers you don’t know on a racetrack, you’re exceeding your capabilities and even if it’s totally the other person’s fault when you get into a wreck, who’s really to blame if you ASSUMED they’d hold their line? You are!!! To drive this point home, say you’re leading the race and coming up on a lapped car really quickly going into the corner and you really don’t know this person, lets also say league rules state that lapped cars must let the leaders pass on the inside so you immediately move to the inside, go to pass and this person cuts right down in front of you and takes you both out causing you engine damage. Well, I hate to tell you this but you’re an idiot. You assumed this person read the rules and you also assumed that he saw you coming up on him 25 mph faster. Sure he was at fault but you don’t get your 185 points back for leading the most laps and winning the race. This is why I think a lot of people confuse patience with racing smarts. You can be as patient as a saint but if you expect or assume people you’re not sure of are going to do something, you’re just not very smart. Hmmm, this sounds a lot like defensive driving school. By gosh it is J Now the paradox, this is racing and if we drive patiently the whole race we’re probably not going to win. We have to drive agressively and take at some point in time but we have to be smart about it. The aboslute best way to do this is to do your homework and know the competition. Remember what we did in practice? We did some things to size up the other drivers. Take advantage full of that. Any time you can take and you’re almost positive that other person can and will do their part. Take! If you’re not sure of a person during a race, you have to take the time to size them up then. If you don’t have that time because you’re being pressured from behind, do what’s smart for you and your overall goals. Take the risk of passing or let the guy pressuring you from behind by and see what he can do with the guy in front. Do whatever is smart for you. If you take the risk of pushing a pass and the guy in front can’t handle it, he may be to blame but your decision wasn’t very smart. What it all boils down to is pretty simple, be aggressive when you know you can and be patient when you’re not sure. Even when we’ve done our homework and we’re certain that we can pass a driver that will give us room and either of us screws up, that’s not stupid, that’s truly one of “those racing deals” and it happens to all of us. Laslty, don’t play headgames with yourself. Don’t use warp or justify to yourself that you were sure you could get by and both of you would hold your line when you really weren’t sure of the other driver or your own ability at all.

Again, the above is a draft and needs to be proofed. One other thing I'm going to add to this is more on blame. Blame is irrelevant, blame is a lost cause and worthless, blame is not worth your time or anyone elses. Also, I'm adding a section on common courtesy. It's not a rule but it's common courtesy that if a driver gets upto your door handle on inside to give them room. If the inside driver does not get to the door handle, he should back out and expect the other guy to cut down. If you're a lapped car and the leaders get upto your door handle on the outside, it's common courtesy for you to backout and give them the low line at apex. Having said that, if you don't know what the other guy is going to do, it's always correct to be patient and backout, if you're aggresive and the other guy can't handle it by not doing the proper thing or holding his line, you can BLAME all you want but who really gives a poop? Be smart and be savvy by never having to blame anyone because of you getting caught up in thier mistakes

Bob Stanley

Good read.

Yes a very good read.

QuoteIf the inside driver does not get to the door handle, he should back out and expect the other guy to cut down. If you're a lapped car and the leaders get upto your door handle on the outside, it's common courtesy for you to backout and give them the low line at apex. Having said that, if you don't know what the other guy is going to do, it's always correct to be patient and backout, if you're aggresive and the other guy can't handle it by not doing the proper thing or holding his line, you can BLAME all you want but who really gives a poop?

This was what happened in my second accident last night. I was already going for the apex but he hit my door. I did not blame anybody, I just knew that it would have not happened with guys I know and who know me. With strangers it would have been wise to be more patient. Then another thing that I realized only this morning: I was being lapped without understanding it, because I did not get blue flags! Why I was being lapped was because of the crash in the start line. I took a short breathing break after that and joined the race after other guys had done one lap already.

Overall experience was still ok. Most of the guys tried to be careful, though I saw from the stats that many of them had a few minor incidents. No one was very fast. Netcode of the iRacing seems good, cars are not jumping at all, it feels like I was driving a LAN race.

Quote from: romus;241762Then another thing that I realized only this morning: I was being lapped without understanding it, because I did not get blue flags!

OK, Learn to put on the relative screen always. (Press F3)
This shows the relative distance between the cars. (in secs)
Think of it as the triangles in LFS.

A Red name behind you means you are lapped. (BLUE FLAG
A White name represents someone on the same lap as you
A Blue name represents someone a lap down.

Also good to check this when reentering the track after an off.

Yay! :yahoo: SR 4.44 Oval

Had my second race tonight and was prepared to stay on track and without any incidents. Again on T1 someone was a bit too eager and scratched my car. When he was past his back bumper was already dented. Then I followed a good and safe but rather slow driver for a few laps. Finally got a chance to overtake, but then was so eager myself that I drove out. I got mad and disconnected and thought, that I don't need to race anymore this week, and that my points will drop below 2.50. However, after the session was finished, my points went up by ~0.1. :blink:

That's another lesson-always finish the race. :D

Better race now, lesson learned, 0 incidents.

One more race and you're over the first hurdle. :D

:devil:

Yay! :yahoo: Now do the same to get to 4 and the world is your lobster! :D

Quote from: Doorman;242407Now do the same to get to 4 and the world is your lobster! :D

Does that mean that the whole world is my dinner table? It took me a few minutes to figure out how a lobster relates to racing. :)

Quote from: romus;242436Does that mean that the whole world is my dinner table? It took me a few minutes to figure out how a lobster relates to racing. :)

:lmfao: I knew that would cause trouble. The correct expression is "The world is your oyster" meaning the same thing. 'The world is your lobster' is a quote from Del boy in 'Only fools and horses' who always slightly misquoted things. Wel done for working it out though. :D

Would it make difference if I get over 4.00 before the end of this season? Or is it the same if I get there next week when the new 4 week season has begun? I could possible get to 4 tonight if I get 3 clean races and some TT and other stuff.

Quote from: romus;242456Would it make difference if I get over 4.00 before the end of this season?

It's just that then you can race the Skip Barber.

I think that is a pretty good reason...

Quote from: vobler;242465It's just that then you can race the Skip Barber.

I think that is a pretty good reason...

I thought that promotions from rookie to Class D happens after a season end if the rating is good enough. I have not read enough about how things work.

Quote from: romus;242472I thought that promotions from rookie to Class D happens after a season end if the rating is good enough.

Correct! But you can as they call it "race up". Go to Series and take a look at the requirements to race the Skip Barber. It is the License "tags" on the right hand side of the screen. It shows "Rookie 4.0 Road" > "Pro Road".

That means anybody between Rookie with SR 4.0 and Pro license can race it!
As a Class D driver you *HAVE TO* race at least 2 races in the Skippy to be promoted further. Thats why it is a Class D car.

It is the same with the Mazda. I can drive it on D if my SR is above 4.0

Quote from: vobler;242478Correct! But you can as they call it "race up". Go to Series and take a look at the requirements to race the Skip Barber. It is the License "tags" on the right hand side of the screen. It shows "Rookie 4.0 Road" > "Pro Road".

That means anybody between Rookie with SR 4.0 and Pro license can race it!
As a Class D driver you *HAVE TO* race at least 2 races in the Skippy to be promoted further. Thats why it is a Class D car.

It is the same with the Mazda. I can drive it on D if my SR is above 4.0

:D Thanks

I had a my first really bad race in iRacing yesterday. It was all my fault.

I got in the middle on the grid and made a lap or two at normal pace. (Skippy @ Jefferson) then in turn 5 (lefthander before back straight) i overdrove it and got off the track. So much that I got out of bounds and was reset. After a lap or two the leaders came behind me and I slowed down towards T1 to let them by. But the whole field came and I ran out of straight and in T1 I hit someone or somebody hit me. Big crash. Around again with a damaged car reset. Out still just 1 lap down, but soon everyone overtook me so soon I was 2 laps down.

Still my SR is still good so what am I complaining about? Not much. Just had to tell you.

:lmfao: So, sh*t happens to the best of us! Bad luck mate.

EarlHaz is keeping his light under a bushel (don't ask!) Winning an advanced Legends oval race! Well done mate. :yahoo:

i had my first solstice race at lime rock last night and managed to come 4th:yahoo:, i was by no means the fastest but managed to get through the carnage of the first lap unscathed(good ole lady luck),then just went at my own pace 1.05ish per lap, the fast guys going round in 1.04s,  i must say i did enjoy the racing, i am looking at changing my wingman options for the Gr25 as per recomendation by Ron, which may help hopefully, if not i think i will race with ff of as the effects which a mostly just re peat are a bit ott.

You must remember that the Solstice is a power steering, softly sprung road car. Drive your own car and tell me how much feel you get through the steering wheel. Precious little I'd guess. The Legend and Skippy, in fact every other car in iRacing is a different kettle of fish!
And well done on the race. :thumbsup2:

Food for thought, my car (french) has power steering and i do get quite a lot of feedback its not a very heavy power steering unit where as like a honda is extremely light with hardly no feel, an F1 car has power steering and i am sure they get feedback!

I now have the skippy and mazda as i do enjoy open wheel cars, these too have no feel what so ever in the bends, at the mo i get loads of effects in a straight line (which repeat in loops) but come when i turn into any degree or speed its the exact same feel?:g:

Quote from: spudgun55;243227....(which repeat in loops)

That's not something I recognise. Anyone else?

Quote from: spudgun55;243227...but come when i turn into any degree or speed its the exact same feel?:g:

:g: All I can say is that the feel is excellent. What is it that you're missing?

These are the settings I'm using for all my sims now. Plus 100% FF in game.

You need Logitech drivers 5.0.2

(http://www.finnglish.co.uk/Stuff/settings.jpg)

Having said that LFS has it's own profile that I have to change wheel rotation on because it doesn't support the 'Allow game to adjust settings' feature. Same goes for NetKar Pro.

thanks Ron i will give the settings a go tonight, in regards of ....(which repeat in loops) if you are in the solstice on the main straight of lime rock the same (track bumps rumbles) effect will appear 3 times from the start to the finish no matter your position from left to right on the track, im hoping its just my setup and to be honest i cant wait to get home and update the settings to cure the problem as i am starting to enjoy the racing(ff aside). but a got a sneeky feeling that its just going to feel like GPL!:g:

:g: All I can say is that the feel is excellent. What is it that you're missing?

i will do my best to explain, in LFS when you turn into the bend with the force of the car at speed (front load G) you will feel certain degrees of the steering wheel tightning making it harder to turn the wheel, i can judge how much throttle i can give the car through the bend and not rely on imagination.
at the moment with Iracing there is no ff from entering the bend to exit it is the same small force all the way through with no detail.

Quote from: spudgun55;243236i will do my best to explain, in LFS when you turn into the bend with the force of the car at speed (front load G) you will feel certain degrees of the steering wheel tightning making it harder to turn the wheel, i can judge how much throttle i can give the car through the bend and not rely on imagination.
at the moment with Iracing there is no ff from entering the bend to exit it is the same small force all the way through with no detail.

I had that discussion with Romus a few days ago. I can't believe that you don't have any force. What I feel is this: And I am *ONLY* talking about the Skippy; If the track is smooth. Initially a slight lean force like in LFS. Then I feel a increase in the force as the turn tightens. If I turn the wheel to much, over driving the grip, I can feel the force loosening as the front wheels are sliding. And in a turn where loosing and gaining grip happens many times: I constantly have to adjust the wheel to keep on track. That is the single best feel in any sim. NetKar is loosing to much force. I feel the Skippy is spot on.

In LFS you lean in to the force, keep it, power out. In the Skippy you constantly fight the front grip. Losing it and getting it back. The lean force in the Skippy is there only until you loose front grip. After that it is on and off the whole turn. (unless you slow down...)

I lied about the 100% in game, (iRacing) it was 50%. Sorry for the duff gen

Hi All.... It's Andy here aka StableX. Just thought I'd say hi and let you know you can add me on iRacing and we can hopefully race together some time....

http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/Results.do?custid=16656

thats my profile - A. Kirschetorte

Quote from: StableX;243393Hi All.... It's Andy here aka StableX. Just thought I'd say hi and let you know you can add me on iRacing and we can hopefully race together some time....

Here is mine Andy. See you there...
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/CareerStats.do?custid=16961

Josep Argelich was first over the finish line, but why is Kurt Messick shown first in the results table? Why not just put a normal table with drivers in finishing order?

The table that is shown on top in the attached picture is not shown when you first open the stats, but the one on the bottom. You need to click View Lap Chart link to see the table on top.

Quote from: romus;243746Why not just put a normal table with drivers in finishing order?
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It must be the same data error they had earlier this week. The race results are not sorted correctly. I was OK yesterday. I mean Friday...

I had one of those. I actually won my race by a margin of 28 seconds but the results showed me as 6th! Then I got out of bed, went downstairs and put on the coffee! :doh:

Congrats with your SR Romus!

I will try to be in the 1815 Skippy race today. (Thats 1915 your time I think)

Quote from: vobler;244275Congrats with your SR Romus!

I will try to be in the 1815 Skippy race today. (Thats 1915 your time I think)

Thanks! I had a race last night where I thought I would climb over 4, from 3.92. It started well, but after 2-3 laps I got lag and got disconnected. I re-connected and finished the race without incidents, but went up to only 3.97. Then today I had another race where I lead from start to half the race, but the guy behind left braking late and crashed on my bumber. After the race he told me I braked too early. It might be true, but comparing his incidents per race >6 to mine <2 I was not so convinced that it was not only my braking. He is still below SR3 after more than 20 races.

I was at 3.99 after that race. Then I took a boring time trial just to get that one more point. :D

Now it's time to get competitive.

Quote from: romus;244290Thanks! I had a race last night where I thought I would climb over 4, from 3.92. It started well, but after 2-3 laps I got lag and got disconnected. I re-connected and finished the race without incidents, but went up to only 3.97. Then today I had another race where I lead from start to half the race, but the guy behind left braking late and crashed on my bumber. After the race he told me I braked too early. It might be true, but comparing his incidents per race >6 to mine <2 I was not so convinced that it was not only my braking. He is still below SR3 after more than 20 races.

I was at 3.99 after that race. Then I took a boring time trial just to get that one more point. :D

Now it's time to get competitive.

iRacing hasn't cleared out ALL the assholes then. :roflmao: These people have no idea. Well done mate. I'll risk a Skippy tonight although I'll be very slow. Treacherous track is VIR South. :sad:

Quote from: vobler;244275Congrats with your SR Romus!

I will try to be in the 1815 Skippy race today. (Thats 1915 your time I think)

I'll see if I can do it. After a few laps I'm at 1.21 and you are already at 1.17. If I get it down to 1.18 and have time I'll be there.

1.19 now, but feels quite difficult to get quicker.

Is it possible to download replays of other drivers laps? Like with LFS I could download a hotlap and analyze it to find where I should improve. Or are there other methods to analyze your driving? Any telemetry tools out yet?

There's THIS (http://members.iracing.com/iforum/thread.jspa?threadID=13174&tstart=0) guy but he hasn't done VIR yet. 1:19 already! :rolleyes: The best I can manage IS 1:20.~

I just did my first VIR South race and amazingly finished with +SR :woot2: I was mentally prepared to take an SR hit.

I did three races yesterday, got my SR hammered in the first two. Usual stuff, getting pranged by someone else! First one was an unmitigated disaster. Hit, got mad. made mistake, lost control, got hit again. Second race I was doing ok, then discovered that iRacing bites yer bum like LFS. I was congratulating myself for finishing on the lead lap when...bosh! In lost it! :(
The last one (are you still reading?) was miles better, finisher on the lead lap with only one minor 'off' and made a few SRs back. Faith and good humour restored. :D

When I joined iRacing I spent a lot of time tweaking the graphic settings on both the card/drivers and in the sim. My computer is a AMD 3500+ with a GE 7600GT.

I had found a setting that let me run with a fps of over 40 on all tracks. On a full server this would drop to abt 30 fps in T1 on some tracks (in the skippy).

Yesterday I found the limit. Virginia Grand East pulls my fps down to 15 in some turns and make the screen stutter severely. Even the wheel FF is lagging. I have seen several complains on this track especially so it must be the track/car combination.

I had to let people pull away so I could complete the race in a normal way. So no more Skippy for me this week. (unless my new computer shows up that is). Luckily my race was not too bad so I got some points.

So there is no doubt that even at low graphics settings, iRacing needs a faster system than LFS.

Congrats guys!

Doorman
Romus
EarlHaz

You are now Class D in iRacing

Quote from: vobler;249386Congrats guys!

Doorman
Romus
EarlHaz

You are now Class D in iRacing

:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

Quote from: Doorman;249389:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

And the Skippy is better than ever before....

Quote from: vobler;249386Congrats guys!

Doorman
Romus
EarlHaz

You are now Class D in iRacing

OK, have to get a new start with the game then :)

Here is a good post from the iRacing forum about oval racing
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I've never been a fan of ovals before iRacing - I mean, what's exciting about driving in a big circle??

But I came here, tried the Legends and they were really good fun. Properly exciting and enjoyable!

Graduated to D license and played with the Late Models, they added a bit more grunt and I felt the talent requirements (setup-wise particularly) in getting speed out of them. Less fun, but clearly higher up the food chain.

Now, trucks have arrived. I've read all the feedback/info on the forums, got hold of a decent enough setup and ran 2 races.

Wow.

Now I get it. Its not about the roundy-roundy. Its about the cars. The other cars - the ones all around you; keeping them around you.

I'd never understood that before.

Now this really feels like racing. I mean, its completely different to road racing, but this is proper proper racing! It needs thought and tactics and patience, and smoothness. And absolutele concentration! No zoning-out on the straights, balls-out all the way!!

I love it! Full season of the Silverados on!


As a long time roadie I think I can summarise the differences now below - this make sense to anyone....?


Road racing is about racing the circuit as efficiently as possible, with extra skill in passing people. Oval racing not so much about the track - its about the cars around you.

Road car setup is as much about tailoring to the driver as it is to the circuit. Oval setups are mostly about the circuit.

Road times are best when you're on your own; clear air, other cars just bring risk. Oval times are best in a big pack, on you're own you're useless.


Maybe in one sense oval racing is more like 'racing' - as in 'racing other cars'. Road racing is about driving the circuit fastest and getting past other cars.


Don't get me wrong - I'm always going to prefer road racing at heart - but I'm more than happy I can love ovals as well!

Right, now its time to leave work and go race more!

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Posted by Shane, UK

That post sums up my feelings exactly.

Psst! I had an iRacing race tonight. I thought 'borrocks to the SR crap' I just going to race in my normal balls out style! :lmfao:Got tagged once which made me lost my cool and consequently go off but in all a good race.


You ain't seen me, right? :flirty:

Quote from: Doorman;249848Psst! I had an iRacing race tonight.

Got tagged once which made me lost my cool and consequently go off but in all a good race.

I think you can have about 5 incidents per race in D without suffering. You had 7 and still was on the plus side. (Slightly more difficult as you go up)

The first weeks I would suggest just to go in and drive, get to know the car, stay on track. Drive well inside your limits.

The only thing I think is a very difficult situation for you, is that when you are getting taken out. You can't ban them.  :narnar: :D

Quote from: Doorman;249848You ain't seen me, right? :flirty:

I'm not telling anyone.

One more thing.
Now that fuel is introduced it might be wise to check the setup page and take only about 10 litres for the Infineon race.

Here is a link to a video on youtube of a 10 minute superb battle between Volker Hackman (1) and Richard Towler (2) at Road America in the Star Mazda

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fpscce0quJs

Remember to click on "watch in high quality"

Quote from: vobler;257400Here is a link to a video on youtube of a 10 minute superb battle between Volker Hackman (1) and Richard Towler (2) at Road America in the Star Mazda

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fpscce0quJs

Remember to click on "watch in high quality"

Surprising end to the battle. I wonder why especially car number 2 movements were so jumpy. Is that the because of the netcode? A driver at that level should not make such movements so often.

Good movie but why oh why do they feel compelled to add hard rock music to the sound track? Aren't the engine sounds music enough? :sideways:

Quote from: romus;257434I wonder why especially car number 2 movements were so jumpy. Is that the because of the netcode?

Maybe, car number 1 is in Germany and 2 is in UK. The video maker (Baldwin) is located in Melbourne, Australia. That may account for some of it, as it was recorded online and not from a replay.

Edit: I forgot. The servers are in USA. So I leave it up to the reader to calculate the probable latency.

Hopefully some of you can see this:

My new office:

(http://membersmedia.iracing.com/member_images/cars/rileydp/riley_ss_4_screen_full.jpg)

(http://membersmedia.iracing.com/member_images/cars/rileydp/riley_ss_3_screen_full.jpg)

I just want to say a few words about the new build.

The facts is in the news thread, but I want to say a few words about the activity and the cars

It seems the open practice system really takes off. It's now possible to jump in and drive at almost anytime. There are lots of people racing. Yesterday I counted 380 people on at one time. Not LFS numbers yet, but way more than before.
In the practice sessions it is easy to find somebody on your level and get in and race together. When two drivers run a few laps together, waiting for each other when one messes up, soon you have become friends and that enhances the community.

As iRacing states the tire model is a wip. And they have done a lot of work here that is not in the release notes. (because as they say its "system wide")

I must admit that I haven't tried all the cars in this build, but the Mazda, Radical and the Truck is very different in this build. The cars are more well behaved on the limit and the loss of grip seems more gradual. So curbs and off track excursions are much easier to cope with now. The same goes for something like the bumps at Sebring.

The Mazda and The Radical are more easy to control at turn in and is easier to correct the path when in the turn.

At first I didn't like the Mazda at all, but after the previous build I started to race it, but now, I simply love it. Even though I liked the Radical at first, the car is now in a much more mature state than the one I first tried.

All in all, even if this build is only a small step on iRacings way, it is a huge step for all its users. So big that I have decided to stop racing anything else in the foreseeable future. Because every time I get in to iRacing I get this grin on my face that no other sim gives me these days. :yahoo:

QuoteIn the practice sessions it is easy to find somebody on your level and get in and race together. When two drivers run a few laps together, waiting for each other when one messes up, soon you have become friends and that enhances the community.

Yep, the practice sessions have been great. And it's also a nice way for me to learn how my PC deals with the various tracks. There are some quite significant differences between the different tracks!

I've started practising Skippy now. I started with 1:56 on Infineon Long, got it down to 1:53 and was amazed at some drivers doing 1:48's. I thought two seconds could be possible, but four or five.. After doing about 10 laps I suddenly realised I was being too scared to drive fast. This sim is so wild! So much more is happening with the car all the time compared to LFS. After collecting some more courage I got it down to 1:51.

After about 10 more laps around 1:51's I began to see the track and driving lines. Once I got used to everything around and could really concentrate on driving the line I finally got my time to 1:49.4. Very rewarding.

Open practise servers are really good. I would probably not be doing iRacing if those did not exist, I guess. I just hope races were more frequent as well. Still only one every 2 hours.

Good going! :D

How's the activity in the Skippy races? Lots of drivers?

Quote from: Gnomie;262040How's the activity in the Skippy races? Lots of drivers?

I did not do any races yet. I would feel stupid being in a race and still far from my best speed. It's better to get in speed and then fight in the race, instead of trying to avoid everybody because of still practicing. I'll try to do a race during the weekend.

Quote from: romus;262036After doing about 10 laps I suddenly realised I was being too scared to drive fast. This sim is so wild! So much more is happening with the car all the time compared to LFS.

Thanks. The best description I have read in a long time.... :D

I did not know how long it would be, and at some point I started hoping it would end already. :) It was 16 laps and about 30 minutes. Results: http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=438657&custid=20781

Pretty nice result for the first race, but much was due to some of the faster guys crashing in T2.

Quote from: romus;262340I did not know how long it would be, and at some point I started hoping it would end already. :) It was 16 laps and about 30 minutes. Results: http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=438657&custid=20781

Pretty nice result for the first race, but much was due to some of the faster guys crashing in T2.

Very nice! :) And only one incident, too. Those top two guys must have had an incredible race.. only two seconds between them after 16 laps!

A pity for you that this is the last day at this track, just as you were getting comfortable enough on it to race! Tomorrow they're changing to VIR Full.

I've been keeping an eye on the skippy league the past few days. Seems to be a lot of activity. Today there were 14 racers at 1:15 PM! Not exactly primetime. That's a lot more than in the Solstice.

I saw some statistics in the Scandinavian Club, and Gnomie was on 3'rd place for Race Wins in Week 1.

Well done Gnomie! :yahoo:

Cheers! :)

I've been having a blast with the Solstice so far. Sure it might not be particularly fast or anything, but it creates some incredibly close and intense racing! :D I got a bunch of setups from StableX which are just awesome.

How was your weekend by the way? Did you get to do any skiing?

Quote from: Gnomie;262706How was your weekend by the way? Did you get to do any skiing?

Yes, superb conditions at Bjorli. A little bit cold for me (-18C) but sunny and calm.

Practice withing an hour! (Ventrilo first?)

Oh dear, oh dear.. what a disaster! Up until my previous two races I had 0.6 incidents per race in the Advanced Solstice league (9 races total). I think that just went up a tiny bit. :crying:

In short: I need to work on my accident avoidance skillz0rz, dodging people who are spinning in front of me. :roflmao: Got a 4x twice in a row now.

The last race was really a pity! There were three of us up front, racing within tenths of each other for 10 laps. I was third, and I felt that I was faster than both, but couldn't find a spot to overtake. Then one of the guys in front of me spun after going side by side with # 2 into turn 7. I dodged him and continued, getting up right behind the leader. But then he spun in turn 4! (The esses) This time I was not so lucky. I hit the brakes hard and tried guessing which way his car would go (he was sideways on the track) but I ended up T-boning him. Yay, another 4x and bent steering. I limped back to pits for repairs ---- only to find out that the bloody pitcrews were on holiday, 'cause all they gave me was a full tank of fuel! :roflmao: So I finally reset the car and finished the race.

I was 12th in the Advanced Solstice championship before this.. (out of 399) This is gonna drag me down quite a bit! Oh well, whatever. I live to race another day! :)

Quote from: Gnomie;263501Oh dear, oh dear.. what a disaster! Up until my previous two races I had 0.6 incidents per race in the Advanced Solstice league (9 races total). I think that just went up a tiny bit. :crying:

In short: I need to work on my accident avoidance skillz0rz, dodging people who are spinning in front of me. :roflmao: Got a 4x twice in a row now.

The last race was really a pity! There were three of us up front, racing within tenths of each other for 10 laps. I was third, and I felt that I was faster than both, but couldn't find a spot to overtake. Then one of the guys in front of me spun after going side by side with # 2 into turn 7. I dodged him and continued, getting up right behind the leader. But then he spun in turn 4! (The esses) This time I was not so lucky. I hit the brakes hard and tried guessing which way his car would go (he was sideways on the track) but I ended up T-boning him. Yay, another 4x and bent steering. I limped back to pits for repairs ---- only to find out that the bloody pitcrews were on holiday, 'cause all they gave me was a full tank of fuel! :roflmao: So I finally reset the car and finished the race.

I was 12th in the Advanced Solstice championship before this.. (out of 399) This is gonna drag me down quite a bit! Oh well, whatever. I live to race another day! :)

What you need to do is ignore the SR. :roflmao:

Quote from: Doorman;263517What you need to do is ignore the SR. :roflmao:

Gnomie, I know Doors is trying to crack a joke here, but he is right. You have a Class D SR well above 4.99 so it will not hurt you one bit. Just observe the drivers around you, and adjust accordingly if they seem out of control or are overdriving.

Lately the SR has been adjusted and it is much easier now. I'm not a very safe driver but it is fairly easy for me to stay above 4.x in Class B. (That means I could advance to, and stay in Pro)

All dMr racers can do the same. No doubt. The SR shows how safe you are. But the iRating will tell how fast you are.

I raced yesterday with people from iRating from 650 to Greger Huttu at 6100. All class C, B and A. We had one problem SR wise. One car was constantly overdriving it and kept falling off. Every time he came behind me I let him go past. In the end he hit a wall and disconnected. It is as simple as that. The system will take care of it in the long run.

Gnomie and Romus is definitive Pro material both in SR and in iRating! :D
There are many other dMr's that would do very well iRating wise in iRacing. The rest of us would just have to settle for a SR that makes us able to race with them. But I have no doubt that any dMr racer has what it takes to go to the top classes.

I hoping to do at least one race on each track in Skippy series. During the week I might just do enough laps so that I would not feel stupid attending a race on Saturday. Learning the VIR Full has been a great challenge. It's like a puzzle that needs to be solved. I've not solved it quite yet, but I'm doing low 2:13's already. I'd like to spend more time to see if 2:11 would be within reach. But 2:12 first, even that is hard.

I feel that with at least Skippy, but perhaps iRacing in general, feels more difficult to get braking right. I'm still dreaming of some pro-level pedals, like a CST set. Have to sell my Octavia to get better pedals. :D

I just want to congratulate Gnomie with his exceptional performance in iRacing.

In the last few days he has won virtually every race he has entered and his iRating is climbing fast towards 3000 and beyond. His SR is also climbing with a incident per race of 1.32.

Superb Gnomie! :yahoo:

Quote from: vobler;263911I just want to congratulate Gnomie with his exceptional performance in iRacing.

In the last few days he has won virtually every race he has entered and his iRating is climbing fast towards 3000 and beyond. His SR is also climbing with a incident per race of 1.32.

Superb Gnomie! :yahoo:

Thanks! :D Been enjoying the ride so far. I've had some great battles lately, and I've gotten to "know" a bunch of the regulars who race frequently at the same hours as I do. Some very nice people out there.

You're not doing so bad yourself either..! Running against the "top guys" like Greger Huttu and Volker Hackman is quite a different ballgame alltogether compared to the Solstice!

Hm.. this coming week the Skippy will be running at a track I already own.. makes it even more tempting..! :woot2:

This weeks 24 hours of Fun is the Riley at Barber.

24 hours of fun is an unofficial iRacing series run on different combos every weekend. (Saturday) No licence needed. Rookies can race.

I had been doing low 1:23's and 1:22 felt really close. I don't yet have a good sense of the grip limit with this sim/car, especially when going fast. I think I'm losing a lot in fast corners. Most of the racers seem to be doing low 1:22's at least, many are doing mid/low 1:21's.

But I went to race anyways, though I've felt that I need to be in better form before racing. But it was great fun, very good fighting, and I learned a lot faster that just by practicing by following other racers and by seeing where I'm slower or faster than them. In the race I could do 1:22:7 and I now know that I can do even better. :D

Sounds like fun! :)

Looking at the quali times it seems there's a LOT of fast Skippy drivers. I should buy it and get my iRating down to a more realistic, sustainable level! :D These days it's getting way too high due to lots of low SoF races with few drivers in the Solstice..

Quote from: romus;264919In the race I could do 1:22:7 and I now know that I can do even better. :D

But you really should take the time to Qualify. Your races will be even better when you don't start in the back.

Quote from: vobler;264961But you really should take the time to Qualify. Your races will be even better when you don't start in the back.

I'm just learning to walk. :)  By the way, is there not pitboards or anything like that in races? How can I see how many laps are left in the race?

Quote from: romus;264969I'm just learning to walk. :)  By the way, is there not pitboards or anything like that in races? How can I see how many laps are left in the race?

You can see it if you press F1.

It's a bit silly actually that you have to switch between F1 and F3 to see the information you need.. they should try to squeeze them into the same screen!

Quote from: romus;264969I'm just learning to walk. :)  By the way, is there not pitboards or anything like that in races? How can I see how many laps are left in the race?

You know the Black Boxes? Lap times and number of laps are on the F1 key. I have set it up to step through all the black boxes with my right wheel button.

People in iRacing are already talking about the upcoming Pro series. John Henry and others have posted stats with people that could qualify.

http://members.iracing.com/iforum/thread.jspa?threadID=29937&tstart=0

In this thread there is two unofficial lists and
dMrGnomie (Einar) is in both of them! :yahoo:

Well done so far Gnomie!

I'm sure others can do it too.

Heh, pleasant surprise. :D Not that I'm planning on going for it, though.. but I do hope some of the pro races will be broadcast live for the rest of us to watch!

I'm not on the Pro list but I took my first victory last night! I'm really getting into iRacing now.. Wife was visiting a friend in southern Finland last weekend, with our son, so I was alone and could do 4 races on Sunday. Yesterday I did one race and won it. All these 5 races have been very good fighting. I've had about as fast guys right in front of me and behind, so It's been really intense. I feel it in my arms. =)

Well done Romus!
I was in one session sunday at Jefferson where I saw you briefly on the bank of the last turn. But after that I could not find you again... You must have joined a race...

Quote from: romus;268712I'm not on the Pro list but I took my first victory last night! I'm really getting into iRacing now.. Wife was visiting a friend in southern Finland last weekend, with our son, so I was alone and could do 4 races on Sunday. Yesterday I did one race and won it. All these 5 races have been very good fighting. I've had about as fast guys right in front of me and behind, so It's been really intense. I feel it in my arms. =)

Yeah, I noticed when looking at your stats yesterday. :) Well done! I didn't get around to racing at Jefferson yet, but I did some practicing. I'm hoping to get some races in towards the end of the week, but I need more practice first to get down to your pace!

The 24 hours of Fun this weekend is Skippy at Watkins Glen.

Good combo. Reminds me of Westhill

Today I got my first win with the Skippy! :yahoo: Man, that felt good! Until now the Skip has been a bit of a disaster for me. I could get pretty good quali times, which led me to become over-confident and go straight into a race without sufficient preparation. And I've paid a high price in terms of incidents per race!

But this week I've really been practicing hard. I've run several offline runs at race length to test my endurance. And it paid off! :D

It goes to show how important it is to prepare!

Quote from: Gnomie;270943Today I got my first win with the Skippy! :yahoo: Man, that felt good! !

Well done and well deserved!

As stated elsewhere I'm going to do a complete season in the Spec Racer Ford and I just want to tell a little bit about it.

Its much easier to drive than the Skippy and more fun than the Solstice. It's slow, with 105Hp, has a 5 speed manual, you need to do Heel and Toe, it has good handling and its free for all subscribers. It looks like a race car too.

No need to worry about servers or skins. Even the setups is easy, get one you like and Just get in and drive. Races are every other our and online open practice is 24/7.

For me at this moment in time, this is the best race car available in any sim.
I have waited one year for this and it did not disappoint me. It is a dream come through.

The only problems I have with it is that it is a rookie car and limited to short races with only 12 people. But due to its popularity it will hopefully give great racing.

Contact me here or via PM if you want to set up practice sessions with me.

Verner, I'll be online from 7:45 PM (GMT+2) tonight practicing. Just FYI. :) Maybe I'll see you..?

I found this hidden deep down in the national part of the iRacing forums.

Scandinavian Club Champions - 2009 Season 1

R-Advanced Solstice
Club Champion: Einar Haugan
2nd: Niko Rostèn
3rd: Tomi Rostèn


Norwegian National Champions 2009 season 1

Daytona Prototype : Christer Wulff-Olsen
Radical SR8 : Verner Blindheim
Star Mazda : Christer Wulff-Olsen
Skip Barber : Einar Haugan
Legends Road : Christer Wulff-Olsen
Advanced Solstice : Einar Haugan

:yahoo:  Well done Verner
Top man :D

Hehe, nice! :D Good job Verner.

EDIT: ooh, it looks purty dunnit?

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2245/certificateadvsolstice2.png)

Quote from: Lameduck;275276:yahoo:  Well done Verner
Top man :D

And very well done Einar (Gnomie) :yahoo:

Quote from: Doorman;275298And very well done Einar (Gnomie) :yahoo:

\well done indeed. :)
There's ignorance for you. Sorry Gnomie, I didnt know your RL name :doh:

Thank you guys! :)

Some screenies from an excellent SRF race at Summit Point yesterday. Great three-way battle all the way through. Finished second in the end! :) I'm the # 2 car.

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8986/srfsummit17509291.jpg)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8317/srfsummit27530542.jpg)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2391/srfsummit37561517.jpg)
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7900/srfsummit47577574.jpg)

For the purpose of those screenshots I turned up the graphics waaaay above what I can use when racing. I wish I had shadows on the dash like that when racing..! One day, my friend.. one day.. :norty:

[brag mode]

And finally, the magic barrier is breached! I've reached 4000 iRating! :yahoo: Which puts me on the Top 100 Road drivers list, out of 8232. Which is, of course, totally ridiculous and doesn't say anything about my actual skill level (all it says, really, is that I've done a lot of driving in the Advanced Solstice :D), but it's a bit fun anyway, I have to admit.

It's kind of a "been there, done that" thing. Now I can relax and not worry about iRating anymore! :)

[/brag mode]

Quote from: Gnomie;275520[brag mode]
And finally, the magic barrier is breached! I've reached 4000 iRating! :yahoo: Which puts me on the Top 100 Road drivers list, out of 8232.
[/brag mode]

Nice :D

I've also tried the new Ford and it brings me memories from the SimBin GTR where Lotus Exige used to be my favourite car. I enjoy that kind of well behaving low power cars much more than any >500bhp monsters.

Quote from: Gnomie;275520[brag mode]

And finally, the magic barrier is breached! I've reached 4000 iRating! :yahoo: Which puts me on the Top 100 Road drivers list, [/brag mode]

Congratz Gnomie. :yahoo: Brag away! :D

Thanks guys! :)

Quote from: romus;275522I've also tried the new Ford and it brings me memories from the SimBin GTR where Lotus Exige used to be my favourite car. I enjoy that kind of well behaving low power cars much more than any >500bhp monsters.

Yep, I couldn't ask for a more enjoyable car to be honest. It just feels so "right" in every way. Being pretty low power you really have to work on your lines to carry as much momentum as you can through the corner. Very rewarding when you finally nail a corner you've been struggling with! :D Besides, I'm using it to learn left-foot braking in corners where I don't have to shift down, and it responds beautifully to that.

I have high hopes for the Mustang too. 325 HP, rear wheel drive, H-gate shifter.. sounds pretty cool to me!  Looks lively, but manageable! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ow8ziBDz0Y) Hopefully it will be out next season, which is when I plan to go on my first shopping-spree.

Quote from: Gnomie;275520[brag mode]

And finally, the magic barrier is breached! I've reached 4000 iRating! :yahoo:

It's kind of a "been there, done that" thing. Now I can relax and not worry about iRating anymore! :)

[/brag mode]

Ha, you will climb a little bit more. You are a good racer no doubt about it. We saw that the minute you entered dMr.

4000? Thats about twice as good as me. Any racer that can stay on track can reach a decent level in iRacing. But you are in alien territory for sure.:D

Quote from: romus;275522Nice :D

I've also tried the new Ford and it brings me memories from the SimBin GTR where Lotus Exige used to be my favourite car. I enjoy that kind of well behaving low power cars much more than any >500bhp monsters.

Yes i agree Romus. The SRF is well behaved and a joy to drive. I got a setup
today that is partly by Towler, Ian Lake and Jason Noble and me and it is very easy to drive.

Here it is:
FRONT:
Toe-in: +1 mm
Front brake bias: 58.0%
FARB: firm


LEFT FRONT:
Cold pressure: 172 kPa
Camber: -1.8 deg
Caster: +5.7 deg
Rebound stiffness: +0 clicks
LF ride height: 77 mm
LF corner weight: 1473 N
Spring perch: +152.400 mm


LEFT REAR:
Cold pressure: 162 kPa
Camber: -2.0 deg
Rebound stiffness: +4 clicks
LR ride height: 84 mm
LR corner weight: 2358 N
Spring perch: +165.100 mm


RIGHT FRONT:
Cold pressure: 172 kPa
Camber: -1.8 deg
Caster: +5.7 deg
Rebound stiffness: +0 clicks
RF ride height: 77 mm
RF corner weight: 1473 N
Spring perch: +152.400 mm


RIGHT REAR:
Cold pressure: 162 kPa
Camber: -2.0 deg
Rebound stiffness: +4 clicks
RR ride height: 84 mm
RR corner weight: 2358 N
Spring perch: +165.100 mm


REAR:
Toe-in: +0 mm
RARB: soft

Quote from: vobler;275530Ha, you will climb a little bit more. You are a good racer no doubt about it. We saw that the minute you entered dMr.

4000? Thats about twice as good as me. Any racer that can stay on track can reach a decent level in iRacing. But you are in alien territory for sure.:D

I'm flattered, but I'm pretty sure I won't go up much more. In the Skip I'm dead meat, and I'm pretty sure I would be if I got the Formual Mazda or any higher licenced cars. But who cares anwyay? It's just a number afterall.

Thanks for the setup Verner, I'll try it later. I've fiddled around a little with Richard Towler's set too. :) I found that using medium ARB instead of soft made a difference. Here it is (http://www.box.net/shared/yfv6gf21jq) in case you want to try. It's still pretty loose, but that means it handles sliding better than Ian's set, so it's more forgiving if you kick the back end loose. I'm both faster and more consistent with this one compared to Ian's!

Quote from: Gnomie;275536Thanks for the setup Verner, I'll try it later. I've fiddled around a little with Richard Towler's set too. :) I found that using medium ARB instead of soft made a difference.

 :doh: The set was meant for people, not aliens! Normal people that like to "trundle" around in a good safe set, not having to worry about the green 1x nags all the time. :)

Quote from: vobler;275538:doh: The set was meant for people, not aliens! Normal people that like to "trundle" around in a good safe set, not having to worry about the green 1x nags all the time. :)

Oi! :sideways:

Out of 1705 people driving the Spec Racer Ford at Summit Point last week,
dMrGnomie made the 4'th best time. :yahoo:

Grats Gnomie!

 I think I've found my motivation to learn to enjoy that car:D

Hehe.. Vobler, the Guru of Stats, strikes again! :D

Yeah, I recall that lap. I got some pretty good draft down the straight. Think I even saved the replay. :)

Good grief, I'm having a real love/hate relationship with iRacing.  

Yesterday after a race had gone rather badly (span from 2nd place with two laps to go..got hit, you know the score :sideways:) and leaving it feeling rather stressed and hating the bloody thing......

..... To today.   Raced in my highest SOF race to date, winning by a mile, SR over 4.99  iRating climbing rapidly ( i discovered how i could see it, even though I'm a rookie :) )  and thinking it's the best thing since...the last best thing.

 
 Vobler was right all along :rolleyes:  Every race does feel like a league race as far as how I'm feeling on the grid.   I really get a bit stupidly nervous at times. I don't understand it.  I've done so many league races in the last few years, but i never feel as nervous as i do in iRacing.  I'm sure that will pass soon, it must just be because I'm new and don't know anyone I'm racing.

 Still think the whole system stinks mind you....  Its total chance what strength of field you will race in, so after a good points scoring finish like i just had,(good for me anyway) its simply not worth racing again because i cant guarantee getting in a higher SOF race and scoring more.  ( ok , i can do 1 more race without it mattering due to the new 50% rule, but after that its not worth it.)

 So, on the first day of the new week I might as well stop if I want to do well in the rookie division championship.  
In order to just enjoy some good racing for the rest of the week i have to potentially sacrifice my position.  It's just ridiculous.  There's far to few people racing as it is.
Even with the new 50% rule it still doesn't encourage racing more than say 4 times a week.  If this is the best system they could come up with after 4 years of planning then they need shooting.     For the sort of money they are charging i want to race 4 times a day!

 Safety ratings are a joke.  You can so easily manipulate it by doing TT's that they really count for nothing.   I'm never going to do a TT,  there's no sense of satisfaction looking at your SR knowing you trundled around on your own in a TT for 50 laps to get it up.


So there you have it.  The system is ********. I hoped actually being properly involved in iRacing might change my mind on that, but i just cant stand it.

 The cars, tracks and cleanliness of racing on the other hand are top drawer. I've seen some shitty driving whilst watching my brother race, and when I've participated in 24 of fun races, but it's been clean as a whistle in the races I've taken part in so far.  In 16 races I've had two 4X incidents.  One caused by me spinning in front of someone, and one caused by someone doing the same to me.

 I only wish I'd had some EXITING races.   I get far more fantastic battles and close finishes in 3 hours of rFactor HistoriX than i have in 5 days and 16 iRacing races. :rolleyes:   It all feels really sanitised racing at times. About as far removed from real racing as it gets.  


 I just don't know whether i love it or hate it.  Sometimes it makes me feel all :yahoo: a lot of the time it makes me feel :taz:

 I've taken the Ron route of covering the top centimetre of my monitor.  If i see another green message flash up telling me I'm a naughty boy I'm going to scream like a girl :lmfao:

Calm down dear, it's a game! :roflmao:

I take it back...the system is obviously great... I'm top of the Rookie Spec Racer division  :D

Quote from: The Moose;276712I take it back...the system is obviously great... I'm top of the Rookie Spec Racer division  :D

Congratulation! And that makes you.... 37 total.  And that also makes me ahead of you :yahoo: (not for long if I know your driving....)

Quote from: The Moose;276686So, on the first day of the new week I might as well stop if I want to do well in the rookie division championship.  
In order to just enjoy some good racing for the rest of the week i have to potentially sacrifice my position.  It's just ridiculous.  There's far to few people racing as it is.
Even with the new 50% rule it still doesn't encourage racing more than say 4 times a week.  If this is the best system they could come up with after 4 years of planning then they need shooting.     For the sort of money they are charging i want to race 4 times a day!

Nothing other your own stubbornness and pride stops you from racing a lot of races per day. If you are good, the 50% rule will put you on top. If not, the races you had was the fluke, and you will soon find your spot. It is as simple as that. Just get in there and start racing.

I'm here in the background, waiting for the times when I can again spend at least 2 hours a week for simracing. Having less time than that I prefer not to race at all, because that only makes me frustrated. I believe summer will be quiet for me and at autumn again I will have more time. What will be the status of the simracing then, is pretty interesting. Will you guys be racing GTL+rFactor still or is LFS getting back to front with some good updates, and what changes will come to iRacing race modes?

Quote from: romus;276765I'm here in the background, waiting for the times when I can again spend at least 2 hours a week for simracing. Having less time than that I prefer not to race at all, because that only makes me frustrated. I believe summer will be quiet for me and at autumn again I will have more time. What will be the status of the simracing then, is pretty interesting. Will you guys be racing GTL+rFactor still or is LFS getting back to front with some good updates, and what changes will come to iRacing race modes?

Only time will tell I suppose. But it seems that rFactor has established a quite firm foothold among the dMr gang. I don't think that's something that will fade away like netKar.

I don't think we'll see any huge changes in iRacing for season 3. Leagues are probably coming at a later date, and I don't think the new Fords are coming out next season either..? Though I don't know for sure.

Fantastic times at Summit in the SRF Gnomie Nice job :)

 I've been concentrating on the Skippy this week, I've jumped into the SRF today and I'm really struggling with this combo for some reason.

 Do you have a replay of one of your mid 1.22 laps by any chance?

 If so , would you mind emailing me one pls to:  stuwhite71 at googlemail dot com

 Your help would be appreciated.

Quote from: The Moose;279043Fantastic times at Summit in the SRF this week Vobler! Nice job :)
.

I think you are mixing me up with someone else. I haven't done a mid 1.22 in the SRF.

Quote from: vobler;279073I think you are mixing me up with someone else. I haven't done a mid 1.22 in the SRF.

LOL, very true..sry :)   It's Gnomie that's the SRF wizard.  My bad.

Who, me? :lmfao: Never thought I'd see the day when you would be asking me for anything! Let me check my replay folder and see if I saved someting.. though I doubt you'll find it useful

Quote from: Gnomie;279100Who, me? :lmfao: Never thought I'd see the day when you would be asking me for anything! Let me check my replay folder and see if I saved someting.. though I doubt you'll find it useful

Thanks Gnomie.  I learn loads just from watching the replays of fast laps, so the replays are much appreciated.   I doubt I'll match your time in this combo as I've left it so late to start practising this week due to Skippy addiction :)

Thanks.

How much fuel for 33 laps of Jefferson?

Yesterday i had the best battle I've experienced in iRacing so far. I was faster than Piotr everywhere but the final corner...which was the one i needed to be quicker in ;) It was neck and neck for 18 laps.

Still, 2nd place in the highest SOF race I've been in yet (3778) scored me 209 points. Well happy with that :D

http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=824081&custid=29018

I'm romping away with the rookie championship and up to 15th in the overall standings for the Skippy this season, having done between 1 and 3 weeks less than the guys above me.  Once the 4 dropped weeks come into play i have a fantastic chance of a top 6-7 finish overall if I can keep up the form I'm in.

 Well chuffed for my first season :D  

 That Skippy is the best car in sim racing. Bloody brilliant!

What is 'Discontinuity' mean? Class field, well done Stu.

:lmfao: I just did a Late model race at Lanier. (don't need brakes. :) That's the theory anyway) Brilliant. The concentration needed in order not to be the 'AH of the day', is unrelenting! My constant companion was a guy that kept telling there was a 'car inside'. I don't know where I'd have been without him. :D

Yeah completed my first race only 1 incident :yahoo: that cost me P3 :sad: Oh and the guy was faster off course :D
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=829664&custid=31002

Quote from: Katsushika Matsumoto;280590Yeah completed my first race only 1 incident :yahoo: that cost me P3 :sad: Oh and the guy was faster off course :D
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=829664&custid=31002

Quite a strong field too. Good job. :thumbsup2:

Quote from: The Moose;280531Well chuffed for my first season :D  

And with good reason too! :) I'm looking forward to racing against you all next season.

Man I just wanted to say that I really really really hate the Solstice Rookie at Lime Rock Park :ranting2:

I just can't get real consistency out of that piece of crap :sideways: Every time mess up sooner or later.

Fortunately My safety rating is high enough to get in the Spec Racer.

And by the way : I getting a little bit annoyed by my Qualification time (1.04.8)
I'm getting placed with guys who are way faster than me. (I can't do 1.04 consistently...)

Quote from: Katsushika Matsumoto;281210Man I just wanted to say that I really really really hate the Solstice Rookie at Lime Rock Park :ranting2:

I just can't get real consistency out of that piece of crap :sideways: Every time mess up sooner or later.

Fortunately My safety rating is high enough to get in the Spec Racer.

And by the way : I getting a little bit annoyed by my Qualification time (1.04.8)
I'm getting placed with guys who are way faster than me. (I can't do 1.04 consistently...)

It's hot, go get a nice cold beer.
A thought though; Everyone's car is the same in the rookie Solstice so that 'piece of crap' is working for someone. :norty:
Another thought; Does that qualifying time stay with you all week? I've never done a qualification on the basis that I'll be last on the grid anyway! :rolleyes:

Quote from: Doorman;281212It's hot, go get a nice cold beer.
A thought though; Everyone's car is the same in the rookie Solstice so that 'piece of crap' is working for someone. :norty:
Another thought; Does that qualifying time stay with you all week? I've never done a qualification on the basis that I'll be last on the grid anyway! :rolleyes:

I know it's the same for everyone :lmfao: I just don't get a feel for the car at LRP... :g: The qualification time stays all week (I think). I raced three races tonight all with the same qualification time.

I probably be joying the spec racer championship this week :yahoo:

I've just looked at your results and think you're a bit hard on yourself. Also, judging by the rest of the field, that's where you'd be put anyway. So the qualification don't mean squat.

Your qual time stays with you all week unless you do another faster qual session.

 Your Qual time also has no bearing whatsoever on the group you race with... Thats entirely based on your iRating.

 It took me a couple of weeks racing for my iRating to get to a point where it started putting me in with more evenly matched drivers.  (and of course it depends on how many splits there are for a race)

Great race tonight. Skip Barber at Segula Leca. Full of drama, joy and heartache. :D Me? I nabbed a 4th AND, even though I don't give a fig for such things, I increased my SR and iRating. C class here I come :roflmao:

Second in an SRF at some American oval with an infield road section. Very chuffed. :D

Quote from: Doorman;282220Second in an SRF at some American oval with an infield road section. Very chuffed. :D

Nice!  Grats Ron :D

I'm having a nightmare run of loosing the ability to drive :(

Quote from: Doorman;282220Second in an SRF at some American oval with an infield road section. Very chuffed. :D

Well done mate!

Was thinking about this earlier, and its a real bummer that they don't run another set of seasons alongside the ones there with just the standard tracks.

I resubbed the other day, and found out I can't race with the Skip Barber until next season and a track comes around that I happen to own. Really gutting really, as I can't afford to have to be spending $50-$150 odd dollars just to be able to participate in a season for a car I have purchased.

Still enjoying the SRF though and I spose thats enough, but still its a shame that there isn't alternative to having to splurge loads of money on tracks on each season.

Also did I just imagine that there used to be a Legends road series? What the hell happened to that, as that would be a great alternative to Solstice/SRF series's for the guys with not a lot of cash.

I suppose I shouldn't really be complaining as its a great game and the FFB is sublime, but its a shame that they rule out people that don't want to be buying lots of tracks on top of the cars they buy and the subscription fee that they pay.

The Legends road series was not very popular, so they decided to remove it for the time being. It might return some day, though, if demand increases. :)

And don't get me started on the pricing structure... :rolleyes: I think a lot of people are in the exact same position as you (myself included). The cost for taking the next step from the standard package is just too large, so a lot of people get cold feet and pull out.

For me, at least, the threshold would become a lot lower if we paid for participation in a series rather than for owning a track/car forever. Wanna try the Star Mazda one season? Fine, that will cost you $xx. Did you like it? Then you can pay the same next season to do it again. Didn't like it? Well, no sweat.

Quote from: Gnomie;282943For me, at least, the threshold would become a lot lower if we paid for participation in a series rather than for owning a track/car forever. Wanna try the Star Mazda one season? Fine, that will cost you $xx. Did you like it? Then you can pay the same next season to do it again. Didn't like it? Well, no sweat.

 That's the way i'd like to see it done, and at a reasonable price.

 If you forget the special offers, this season to race the Skippy would have cost me Ã,£66.50  (Three month sub, Skippy, 3 additional tracks -$10 iRacing credit)  Plus i bought Road Atlanta to out of desperation to have some fun in a 24HDF day.

 That season plus Road Atlanta cost the same as LFS,nKPro and rFactor combined :eyebrow:

 Now, for all the good things about iRacing, there's no way i can say I've got anywhere near the enjoyment out of it as i have out of three years of the other three sims i mentioned.

 Give us the chance to race a season for $40 all in and it becomes a much more attractive prospect. One that i wouldn't hesitate to re sub with.

 Give us open fun race servers 7 days a week and the price tag as it is now would feel a lot more acceptable to me as well.

Yeah almost having it as a rental would make more sense. Heck I'd pay a LOAD more a month if it meant having all the cars and tracks available. I'm sure they'd make up their money just by the increase in subscribers.

In all fairness, the offers always seem like a complete ****take to me. Like that one a few weeks ago where it said GET A FREE CAR AND TRACK WHEN YOU SUBSCRIBE TO IRACING* (oh but only if you pay $whatever for a years sub). Lol if I could afford that much in the first place I wouldn't even have a problem. :)

Ah well I'm glad they released the SRF. That makes it more worthwhile for me in terms of fun and afforability. Just a shame as it has a lot more potential than what they are currently doing.

The Lotus '79 looks absolutely great, sounds a bit iffy but still... tempting to buy that too but I'll have to wait and see if it falls down the route of loads of tracks like all the other series's.

Anyone know what class the Lotus 79 is going under btw?

I just wanted to say that I'm really starting to get into the Spec Racer :D
Did 4 races today with a result of P4, P2 and 2 wins... (should have been 3 wins if it wasn't for a backmarker that screwed that up :ranting2:)

OK not really in strong fields, but that doesn't make my wins less sweet :roflmao:

I did an advanced Legends @ South Boston tonight. (we oval racers call it SoBo :rolleyes: ) I had a terrific battle which, with attrition, was shaping up for a 4th/3rd. I really really  though I could take the guy in front of me. :woot2: We are joined by another car and I glanced at my runners list. It's OK, he's laps behind. In fact it was good fun to be in the mix. 5 laps to go...THWACK! Car twatted, lost position and 4 laps getting it drivable again. I wouldn't mind but even though I was expecting the worst by way of shunts we were clean for 33 laps! :taz::taz::taz: Mmm, I'm madder than that. :taz::taz:



Phew! Got that off my chest. There would have been no point in posting that in the iRacing forum. It's good to have somewhere to vent. :flirty:
Thank you for your forebearance. :)

You'll get them next time! :flirty:

I had a feeling you'd like ovals. I really ought to give that a try some day. But I think I would feel terribly handicapped and afraid without three monitors and/or headtracking.. I think good peripheral vision is essential in oval racing!

Quote from: Gnomie;284004You'll get them next time! :flirty:

I had a feeling you'd like ovals. I really ought to give that a try some day. But I think I would feel terribly handicapped and afraid without three monitors and/or headtracking.. I think good peripheral vision is essential in oval racing!

I wouldn't go as far as to say I like ovals but as I've bought the tracks I might as well use them! I'd have go at the trucks but the attitude of the majority of drivers is so....intense! (pause for thought) To hell with them, I will have a go at trucks! (pause for another thought) Mind you, the races go on for an hour, an hour of going round and round may be too much. :g:

I did a bit of ovals, when I was stuck on the Solstice. I quite enjoyed the Legends ovals. I normally hate all that round and round endless boring drivel but the laps were only like 30 seconds long so it wasn't too bad.

Dunno if it was a rookie thing though but it always ended up with a few people getting banged off the course by some psycho going too fast or trying to bump draft. :roflmao:

I just want to congratulate Gnomie with the Pro license. Well done mate!:yahoo:

Quote from: vobler;284357I just want to congratulate Gnomie with the Pro license. Well done mate!:yahoo:

Jebus! He's been away as well! Congratulations Einar. :yahoo:

What? Where? :blink: :lmfao: And I haven't driven since May..

I'm not going to be competing or anything, but thanks for notifying me, Verner.

Does this mean I get a black badge on my helmet? Ahhh, the pressure! :ohmy:

Quote from: vobler;284357I just want to congratulate Gnomie with the Pro license. Well done mate!:yahoo:

Well done Gnomie, excellent stuff :yahoo:

I'm sure most of you know about the upcoming Jetta TDI car in iRacing. It is scheduled to be released Aug. 17'th. But you can preorder it from tonight after the new build relrese.

While you wait, have a look on youtube. There is a series of episodes (7) there presenting the first real life season with that car. Search for "racing under green". Nice to watch.

Here is the link to the car in iRacing:
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/CarDetail.do?carid=15

Congratulations!
 
 During  this season, you ran a scored event which helped your Club to win the regional  title. Please find attached your printable certificate.
 
   Regards,
 
 Tim  Wheatley


(http://www.finnglish.co.uk/scrns/champ.jpg)

Quote from: Doorman;284541Congratulations!

Yes, and next season every race will count towards your club points. So it's even more important to race alot.

Nice work Doorz! :)

I'm curious about the Jetta.. I think it could offer very good racing indeed, just as in real life.

So who's gonna buy it?

Quote from: Gnomie;284563Nice work Doorz! :)

I'm curious about the Jetta.. I think it could offer very good racing indeed, just as in real life.

So who's gonna buy it?

Me. :D

Quote from: Gnomie;284563So who's gonna buy it?

 No, no and no.  I cant get excited about a FWD saloon unfortunately.
Indy cars and Aussie V8's would certainly re-awaken my interest though :g:

 
 Grat's on making Pro  btw:)

Quote from: Gnomie;284563So who's gonna buy it?

Me to. I hope it will be something like the FXO in LFS.

Quote from: vobler;284577I hope it will be something like the FXO in LFS.

 That's what i think it will be like.... which is exactly the reason i wont buy it.

 I think I'm allergic to FWD :lmfao:

Quote from: The Moose;284575No, no and no.  I cant get excited about a FWD saloon unfortunately.

A diesel FWD saloon, even :)

Gotta agree with you; I've always been a RWD fan. That said, after all it's the quality of racing which is the most important. So if the Jetta turns out to be hugely popular and provides high-quality, close racing, I might consider it. :)

At the moment I'm really really eagerly awaiting the Corvette and Ford GT. Those could be just magnificent I think.

BTW I got an e-mail from Shannon Whitmore today:

QuoteGood Morning!
 
First let me congratulate you on your Pro-License promotion!  You may be asking why am I getting this email?
 
The answer is, you've been promoted to an iRacing Pro-License and are eligible to compete in the inaugural iRacing Pro-Series (iPS); but your member account is currently cancelled.   In order to compete, you must have an active account with iRacing.
 
The Pro-Series will begin on 0:00 GMT 4 August 09.  We have added additional race times in addition to what is reflected in the Pro-Series Document that is attached.
 
While each of your accounts are inactive (cancelled), you will hold the license from Today, until 31 August 09.  If your account remains inactive (cancelled), we will remove your Pro License and promote iRacers to fill your position in the Pro-Series.   Our goal is to have a complete roster of 250 active drivers competing in the Pro-Series and for the top 50 positions available for the iDWC.
 
Thank you!
 
Regards,

Shannon Whitmore
 

Makes sense to me. :) I wouldn't like preventing other drivers from gaining a spot.

Even though I haven't posted anything in the news thread about the new build, I'm sure most of you know about it and of the new Lotus 79 F1 car.

It is a beast and the first few laps I tried it was with the baseline setup and that was awful. Later I got a few other setups that I tried, and finally it was fun to drive. Tonight Volker Hackman posted a Silverstone set for it and it is awesome!

I urge everybody to try that set and have a go. I'm not sure I ever can race that car but I sure will practice with it. I did several 1.33 laps at Silverstone Historic but the fast guys do 1.27's so still much to do.

Go get it!

Quote from: vobler;284811Even though I haven't posted anything in the news thread about the new build, I'm sure most of you know about it and of the new Lotus 79 F1 car.

It is a beast and the first few laps I tried it was with the baseline setup and that was awful. Later I got a few other setups that I tried, and finally it was fun to drive. Tonight Volker Hackman posted a Silverstone set for it and it is awesome!

I urge everybody to try that set and have a go. I'm not sure I ever can race that car but I sure will practice with it. I did several 1.33 laps at Silverstone Historic but the fast guys do 1.27's so still much to do.

Go get it!

Got it. At the moment I've filed it under 'meh' but who knows? I've never been a downforce lover and ground effect is even more scary. :sad:

Like the brake pedal adjustment in the new build.

Quote from: Doorman;284827Got it. At the moment I've filed it under 'meh' but who knows? I've never been a downforce lover and ground effect is even more scary. :sad:

I never liked winged cars either. Where I'm going to "file it" is yet to be decided, but here is what Dave from Autralia writes on the iRacing forum. I think it was a good post so I copy it here:

I've been racing sims since the early 90's starting with Indycar racing... my first love...

Back then graphics were so clunky that it was hard to see a corner coming, 640 by 480 resolution on a 14" monitor was the interface to my racing experience... Steering, braking and turning was done with a cheap joystick and consistancy was only a dream, but even so I was hooked... It fed that wannabe racing driver that lived inside my soul.
Of course I could never feel really connected driving this way but I still enjoyed it more than anything else that I had tried

A few years passed and GPL is released and OMG I'd found racing nirvana.. Now the proud owner of a steering wheel and pedals, a member of UKGPL league and I'm actually racing real people, it was the best there was and it was hard to imagine what the future could hold, but as great as this was (and it was beyond great back then) I always felt that my Ferrari 312 wouldn't actually slide and drift the way it did in real life, I always felt that as great as GPL was that there was something not quite right with the way the car interacted with the road surface... I never felt really connected.. either to the car or to the road

As time passed and technology leaped forward I was presented with more and more racing simulators to choose from with even great physics models, higher resolution graphics, fantastic car models and a huge choice of racing genres but strangely I became more particular, even though at one time low resolution 4 bit graphics was the best, now I wanted more... I knew the potential was out there and with todays incredible processors that if only someone would push the envelope that we would probably see something really special, we just needed someone to go out and do it...

Many years pass and suddenly I have iRacing... expensive as hell but potentially the best that there is and may ever be if the creators are to be believed that there will be a constant and never ending progression......

I've enjoyed my iRacing experience so far... and as much as I have felt that currently there is nothing better I've still never really felt 100% connected to a car, I've still felt that there is something slightly missing.. surely real racing cars cannot be this difficult when touching curbs.. surely a throttle/brake balancing act isn't the way my heros rotate their cars through turns the way we have to do here... The closest I have felt to real road connection and the least amount of throttle brake balancing act I have felt within iRacing was the Riley Prototype...

UNTIL!!!... The Lotus 79 around Watkins Glen....

Finally!! A car that actually feels like it is connected, feels like a real racing car, makes me feel like a real racing driver...

I've been messing with this combo nearly all day today and even though I'm not the fastest, not by a long way, 1.35's if I'm lucky.. It is without doubt THE greatest racing sim experience of my life..

Never have I felt so much like a racing driver, Never have I felt so connected to a car or to a track... Never have I felt so confidant, so excited and yet so scared in a simulated racing car..Never have I felt the urge to just drive and drive and then drive some more....

Eric and iRacing I salute you, you have actually managed that which I never felt was possible, you have transported me from my racing rig in my house and plonked me into the cockpit of a fire breathing animal and let me feel what it may actually be like to race a real racing car and for that I'm eternally grateful.

Regards
Dave the wannabee

I love winged single seaters.  There's something about iRacings winged SS cars that i just don't get on with though, they feel very odd to me.  

I guess I'm just so used to the FTarget in nKPro (absolute perfection when it comes to SS cars, imo) that nothing else can compare.   Frankly I'm disappointed with the Lotus.  The lack of transmission doesn't help, but its also incredibly easy to drive.  I just got the feeling it would be a little more unforgiving, but no....just keep your foot planted and it will stick.  

At least you can actually take curbs in it, unlike the twitchfest that is the Mazda, so that's positive.

 I'll probably buy it when they introduce transmission modelling though :)

I just learnt that the Lotus had manual transmission in real life.. it must have taken some serious footwork to drive this thing for real. Quite a different matter than flatshifting + left foot braking, as surely 99,9% of all iRacers will be using. :(

Besides, "reviews" based on just one day of racing must be taken with a pinch of salt. (or maybe two)

Congrats to Ron and Stuart for their C licenses. :yahoo:

Quote from: vobler;285050Congrats to Ron and Stuart for their C licenses. :yahoo:

And my mum said I'd never amount to much. Ha! :D

Quote from: vobler;285050Congrats to Ron and Stuart for their C licenses. :yahoo:

:yahoo: I also promoted to a D license... (with a respectable irating of 2180)
I'm tempted to buy the mazda or the skip...

Quote from: Katsushika Matsumoto;285079:yahoo: I also promoted to a D license... (with a respectable irating of 2180)
I'm tempted to buy the mazda or the skip...

You can't advance to C without at least one of them.

Quote from: Katsushika Matsumoto;285079:yahoo: I also promoted to a D license... (with a respectable irating of 2180)
I'm tempted to buy the mazda or the skip...

Skippy, Skippy, Skippy, Skippy. :D

Quote from: Doorman;285097Skippy, Skippy, Skippy, Skippy. :D

 This^^^

Looks like I made up my mind. :lmfao:
Gonna buy the skip tomorrow... :)

Ron, are you going to do the Mazda this season?

If so, please give me a wink and we'll get together some evenings to do some practice sessions. I'll give you my set! :dribble:

Quote from: vobler;285158Ron, are you going to do the Mazda this season?

If so, please give me a wink and we'll get together some evenings to do some practice sessions. I'll give you my set! :dribble:

I had a test run in it this afternoon for quite a few laps and I think I'll get swamped! Scarey little bugger! :blink: But name the day.

EDIT: I think you meant 'give me the nod'. Give me a wink has other connotations! :flirty:

Since the last iRacing build with new camera controls there has been made a few videos

Here are a couple:

Over limit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT41WEOrcOo

Nothing else matters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxBrdsAGM5o

Slow it down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI9dUeNpBV0

Slow it down. My favourite. Wouldn't engine sounds have been nice? :)

Quote from: Doorman;285593Slow it down. My favourite.

That definitely is a nice video, indeed.

Without having played iRacing I can tell, just by watching that video, that it is way ahead of LFS in terms of... well... just about everything, really. Obviously I can't judge the interface and the online racing system - which is LFS' strongest point - but as far as graphics, car/track modelling and physics are concerned there doesn't seem to be any competition.

Nice of you Obsolum but I don not ncessarily agree.
The slow motion vid is very nice and shows the following:

It does indeed LOOKS so much better than LFS, especially the tracks.
I also like very much how the suspension work is shown on the single seaters, astonishing.
BUT
No tyres flex :( Too complex to model?
Smoke is not better than LFS's :) nice little round clouds they got here.
No dirt on tyre like nkp, how does Kunos do that?

So I do agree that visually LFS looks 10 years older, but I hope iracing will improve the core of the game soon (rather than releasing new paying content at this rate) - to convince me it is the real thing and not a rich man's toy. I'm a skeptic ;)

Quote from: Mille Sabords;285736(...)
I also like very much how the suspension work is shown on the single seaters, astonishing.

The important thing to remember here is that that's not just eye candy. It's proof that the suspension is actually properly modeled, unlike LFS as far as I know. And I'm going to guess here but I assume that the suspension in tin top cars in iRacing are also modeled in as much detail as the suspension on the single seater cars, even though you can't see it.

Quote from: Mille Sabords;285736No tyres flex :( Too complex to model?

Alright, that is indeed a one of the most important aspects of a racing sim. But, let's be honest here, as much as people like to rave about LFS' tyre model and tyre flex, it really isn't that good (yet).

Quote from: Mille Sabords;285736Smoke is not better than LFS's :) nice little round clouds they got here.

That's a minor detail IMO. Good looking smoke is nice to have but it doesn't really add that much to the driving experience. It falls in the "eye candy" category for me.

Quote from: Mille Sabords;285736No dirt on tyre like nkp, how does Kunos do that?

That's also a good point, and it's something that nKP does very well. But I was comparing to LFS, not nKP ;-) LFS also has tyre dirt factored into the equation but it's not shown visually.

Quote from: Mille Sabords;285736So I do agree that visually LFS looks 10 years older, but I hope iracing will improve the core of the game soon (rather than releasing new paying content at this rate) - to convince me it is the real thing and not a rich man's toy. I'm a skeptic ;)

Well I assume the guys at iRacing are at work at improving the experience. I would expect as much if I was a member. That being said, though, it really doesn't concern me because I will never try iRacing unless they drastically change their pricing/business model, which I doubt they will :)

It occurred to me that while much is made of tyre physics and modelling, how aware are we of the effects? In LFS for instance the tyres flexing looks tremendous in a replay but I can't recall feeing that effect in my hands. Eye candy perhaps? Probably talking hevonen paska, but ker-ching! :2cents:

Quote from: obsolum;285758The important thing to remember here is that that's not just eye candy. It's proof that the suspension is actually properly modeled, unlike LFS as far as I know.

Try driving in LFS after pressing SHIFT+L, then you will see the suspension working and if you press F, you can see a graphical representation of the changes in forces, even in the tin-tops and the different suspension types.

Quote from: Lameduck;285795Try driving in LFS after pressing SHIFT+L, then you will see the suspension working and if you press F, you can see a graphical representation of the changes in forces, even in the tin-tops and the different suspension types.

Hmm, I knew about the F(orces) view but not about Shift+L view. Well, I stand corrected then :)

Posted by Colin ML in the iRacing forums

Park those expensive Loti, Radicals, Star Mazdas and strap yourself into the Jetta! I've been an iRacing subscriber exactly one year and I've had more fun racing the Jetta in two evenings than I have in every other race with all other cars combined! The racing is incredibly close and people are learning what you can and can't do in the car. It's simply superb. The races will be decided by 10ths of a second and 5 car trains will be the order of the day. I promise you, you'll learn more race craft in this car than anything else in iRacing.

I will be racing this car exclusively this season such is the fun factor :)

Hey guys,

As you can imagine, that was one helluva experience. I just got back after a very long weekend with very little sleep so I'm pretty sure I'm going to crash for about 15 hours here in a little bit.

There's so much in my head to write down that I can't wait to get down on paper (and hopefully talk about on the radio show this week). Anyway, for now, here's a quick race recap while it's still somewhat fresh in my mind, for those of you who were trying to figure out *** was going on from the live scoring:

I screwed the start up a bit, I hesitated a bit because a car in front of me didn't go, so I lost a spot (aka the only spot I could lose :) ) before turn 1. That put me behind a driver that I was a bit quicker than, and a combination of things kept me from ever getting by him. I was a bit too cautious on cold tires, as well I was too cautious around the multiple wrecks that were going on on the first lap, so I lost several seconds from that. I started trying to run him down and then we had a full course caution.

I then made the stupidest, rookiest mistake ever, and forgot to go on the restart... as in, full on, had no idea the green was coming out, not paying attention, spotting the field 4 seconds type of stupid rookie mistake. It was pretty embarrassing. Anyway, I ran him down again and I think I may have had a couple of looks to pass him (I don't quite remember), and then we had another caution when Devin Cates ended up on the tires in Canada.

I did a good job of staying on his bumper on the next restart but was being overly cautious on pass attempts. I had a couple of runs on him but without even having a nose along side of him, and not knowing how he was going to race me, I backed out. It turns out he probably would have given it to me, but at the time I wasn't 100% sure how aware he was and didn't want to take the chance. After spending most of the race under caution, the last thing I wanted to do was have to apologize to the field for ruining their brawl to the end because me and some other guest driver decided to mount each other for last place :)

A lap or two later, I managed to get a good run into Canada Corner, and was ready to make the pass, when I look up and see a yellow waving, as one of the cars was sitting in the gravel. So, completing the pass would have been illegal, and I backed out. I then compounded it by making bonehead mistake number 2. For whatever reason, I was trying to be really safe and forgot it was just a local caution, and I started coasting out of Canada Corner and into 13. About the time I got to 13 I realized the guy in front of me had just pulled 4 seconds on me and what I had done. So, I got back on it and caught up to him pretty quickly again.

I ended up with 2 laps to try and get by him at that point, I was much quicker in the carousel/kink, so I was able to get good runs down into Canada, but I was not able to make the pass happen. I tried to set him up out of the last corner but unfortunately that was one corner he was better than me in, so I wasn't able to get it done there.

The last lap, I knew my only chance was to get a run down the backstretch, and knew I had to nail the carousel and the kink to do it. About halfway through the carousel it was obvious I was about to get a big run on him and was going to have to go through the kink pretty close to his bumper to make it happen.

So, I spent the whole way from the center of the carousel until the kink talking myself into it. The little angel guy on one shoulder was like "dude, going through the kink on someone's bumper is going to be scary as hell, don't come all this way just to stuff it on the last lap" while the devil guy on the other shoulder (who looked like Richard Towler for some reason, not sure why) was yelling "you've done this a million times in a sim, it's the last lap, stop being a pansy and do it you toolshed". So I did, and it was a good feeling. Unfortunately he hit the kink better than he had all race and I wasn't able to get the run I needed. I pounded the last corner harder than I had all weekend trying to figure out a way to get him but it wasn't enough.

Even though it was disappointing because I was quicker than him and I honestly do believe I had something for at least a few of the cars in front of him, I had an absolute freaking blast those last few laps. Me and the other driver had the biggest smiles in the garage after the race. It was a great way to finish the weekend. That's what racing is all about, even if it's for 22nd.

Anyway, that's already an 11 paragraph essay and only about 5% of what I experienced this weekend, so I'll leave it there for now.

Wow! It has been over a year since I started driving iRacing. How do I feel, what do I think?

First, as many of you know there is limited possibilities to race with your friends in iRacing. Even if they will start doing leauges and hosted races next season this will not change much. What I have missed most is the good people on dMr and all the chats we had on Ventrilo. A few dMr's have tried to do practice sessions together in iRAcing but I think we where unable to get that good dMr community feel.

Beginning
A year ago iRacing was very young, many people even think it was released too early. And maybe it was, but in that year it has been updated lots of times and if you check the release notes for the last year you really see how much has been done. But the best thing with iRacing still remains the same. The superb feel for driving a car and the exceptional tracks.
When I started sim racing on the PC again I did not stop testing sims until I felt I had found the best one, LFS. As time went on I tried other sims as they came out. But no one could beat LFS in its simplicity, ease of use, and great feel. I have always stated that I judge by how a sim  feels instead of talking too much about physics, because I don't know much about car physics in the real world.
iRacing had that feel I was looking for. A better feel than LFS. Many of you tried iRacing at that time and some of you also acknowledged that the feel was better, but you where not prepared to get in to it either because of the cost involved or that you would not sacrifice the "dMr community feel".
One of the biggest problems for me regarding the dMr system is that nobody is on the servers until in the evening when I rather would spend time with my family. That was one of the big factors for me to step over to iRacing. Even if I often race in the evenings, I know when the race starts and stops so I can plan accordingly. dMr has this system only once a week, and last year I was not able to join in on the thursdays due to other commitments.

Last year
So what did I do in iRacing in the last year? I have done 244 road races and 31 oval races. (The race lengths are much longer than normal LFS races, normally between 30-60 minutes). That has given me Class A license in road and Class B in oval (getting A next season). The racing generally has been superb, some races ruined by others, but mainly if I had to stop racing it was often my fault. I have learned much racecraft and to take my time. I seldom go off on my own account these days. Last season my iRating was in the 2500 range, but I felt that was too high so I "sandbagged" a while and dropped it to around 2000 where I feel more comfortable. My Oval rating is low but I haven't done much there. Even though my car speed also has increased I tend to run at maybe 80% in races. To me it is more fun to have a good close battle well within my limit, than to overtake and pull away from them.

Content
Not only the core sim have been updated the past year. There have also been added a lot of tracks and cars. More European tracks are coming, and of announced tracks I can mention Brands Hatch, Oulton Park and Zandvoort. Of recent cars I can mention the VW Jetta TDI and of announced cars we have the Corvette C6, Ford Mustang FR500, the Ford GT and the IndyCars. Currently there is 9 road cars and 7 Oval cars (Legends counts in both categories). There are currently 34 tracks where 11 is road only (with many having more than one layout) and the rest is oval but a lot of them have road layouts. So for content there is alot to choose from. So much that many think there are too much content for the number of members, so a lot of people complain about that. This is for sure an issue but only in higher classes. iRacing now has around 10000 concurrent members, and they have had a growth of around 20% a season. Even if I expect this trend to flatten out, I still think they have a lot of people coming in the next year or so.

So what do I not like?
It is very difficult to get to know people in here. Even if you meet somebody in a practice session one day and get to know them it may take weeks before and if you meet them again. This is partly because the rating system, the times people race and the amount of people in the service.
The forums software is very poor compared to what we are used too. And they are full of kids screaming for stuff and complaining. (Kids used loosely, as in their behavior)
Very much of the car drivetrain and engine is not yet simulated. Ha, you may say, both NetKar, LFS has had this for years. Yes they have, but nobody but the developers know the level of simulation in this. Maybe iRacing will simulate this to a high degree once in place.

Money Money Money.
I have not mentioned cost anyhere above because I'm fed up discussing it. Every time it comes up people scream out how expensive it is.
If they want to race a good sim they cant because it is too expensive. And if they are finished as rookies, how much they have to spend to race next season. Yes it may be a lot of money for some, but expensive? No, don't agree. Some things cost what they cost. If you can't afford it, let it go. Thats what I have to do when I can't afford something. Another thing I see all the time is that people don't like the subscription service. But everyone has internet, phone, tv and all kind of subscriptions with just about the same conditions. I don't get the problem with this.
When that is said there are many ways to save money by signing up for a longer periods, buying content in bulk, and from next season just by racing. Yes, next season they will give you an amount of credit for every series you compete in.

So now what?
I will still be in here, maybe if the new LFS gets better I will try to get in some weekdays to get some of that "dMr community feeling". But my main sim will be iRacing for some time to come. I am proud to be a part of it and am looking forward to the next level they will take us too.

Vobler

Hellava post! :D It's hard to reply to it because it's all been said many times, many places.
I'm glad you're still fervent about it although it would be nice if we saw more of you in the alternatives. For my part, I really did give it one more good go but despite the gloriousness of the tracks (I'm big on gloriousness :D) I came to the conclusion it wasn't for me. Indy cars put to tin hat on it. :sad: So I've put my philosophical hat on and kissed my $500 goodbye. :byebye:

Well done Vobler, never let it be said that you lack passion for iRacing :D

You know my stance on the iRacing model, but I admire your evangelistic zeal.

Superb post, well done again.:D

I think it's great that you're enjoying the online gaming experience to the full. We miss you too ^_^

Good post Verner. Seems like you've really found the sim which fits you best!

I loved my three months of iRacing this spring. I had to cancel my subscription because I had too much to do in the university and because I was going on summer holidays, from which I returned a week ago. I don't plan on re-subscribing for a while yet, but there's no doubt that I'll return to iRacing at some point. :) Really looking forward to the Mustang + GT!

As far as combining iRacing and dMr, I think I found a pretty nice "formula" in the end: I started the evening with iRacing practice + one race, and then I moved on to rFactor with the dMr crowd. Very nice way to wind down in a friendly atmosphere among friends after a stressful, intense iRacing session!

Great post Vobler. Yes, the iRacing forum is really terrible. :lmfao: I've also subscribed for another year, otherwise I would feel I was missing something really interesting.

What you wrote about improving your racecraft... I feel the same, though I've not done so many races. Good formula would be to do some iRacing races each month to raise the race craft and then have more relaxed driving with dMr.

Also when friends come around it's nice to let them try iRacing. Last week a friend was helping me fitting the new kitchen (still not ready), and we had a two hour session with Jetta, Skippy, and some other cars on Summit Point. My friend is a Warbirds player (Flight sim), but he said the iRacing was the best game he had ever tried. It's quite a common comment what I hear, so the feel it has appeals to many.

A week ago I posted a link to the recent free trials at iRacing.

The free trials has proved to be a disaster and has now been closed. The reason is because it was abused both with false ID's and a lot of people where wrecking like we have seen in other sims.

The Chief Steward is now going through the many hundred new drivers to find the false ID's and suspending the wreckers.

This just proves a point that there has to be some sort of ID check and payment involved to filter out the idiots.

That said, I had a superb race in the Jetta last night at Sebring. Lots of door to door racing and paint swapping as this is the series with a real life racing sponsorship on the line. Nothing is given away. If you want a position, you have to steal it. I'm still high on the adrenaline :yahoo:

Quote from: vobler;289227A week ago I posted a link to the recent free trials at iRacing.
The free trials has proved to be a disaster and has now been closed. The reason is because it was abused both with false ID's and a lot of people where wrecking like we have seen in other sims.

A case of 'demo racers' will be demo racers. Nothing paid, nothing to lose.

QuoteThe Chief Steward is now going through the many hundred new drivers to find the false ID's and suspending the wreckers.

This just proves a point that there has to be some sort of ID check and payment involved to filter out the idiots.

Or servers with harsh but fair admins on board. I wonder when was the last time dMr had to kick or ban someone

QuoteThat said, I had a superb race in the Jetta last night at Sebring. Lots of door to door racing and paint swapping as this is the series with a real life racing sponsorship on the line. Nothing is given away. If you want a position, you have to steal it. I'm still high on the adrenaline :yahoo:

:D That's great!

Quote from: Doorman;289236Or servers with harsh but fair admins on board. I wonder when was the last time dMr had to kick or ban someone

Yes, thats a good option, but there are issues with this too. No admin can be on an server 24/7.

I wish NKP would allow kicking and banning too.

BTW. I have been locking for you on Finnglish (NKP) two nights now. Didn't see any known names. I reverted to iRacing because there where more familiar names there.... :g:
I have gotten the new NKP patch to work good on my PC now an have been trying to adapt the standard setups more to my liking. Looking good!

Vobler, which series are you competing in this season? Jetta + Mazda?

BTW I was browsing westeurope-racing.org just for fun the other day, and I noticed that I'm currently A licenced..! How did that happen? Before the whole Pro thing I was C licenced. So when I lost my Pro licence (because I didn't resubscribe within the time limit) I expected to be demoted back to C licence. Seems like they gave me two "free" licence promotions! Can you check which licence I have now on the official site, please? :)

Quote from: vobler;289240Yes, thats a good option, but there are issues with this too. No admin can be on an server 24/7.

True, but if I'm not there they can do what they like. :sideways:

I wish NKP would allow kicking and banning too.

You and me both. Hopefully it will come.

BTW. I have been looking for you on Finnglish (NKP) two nights now. Didn't see any known names. I reverted to iRacing because there where more familiar names there.... :g:

To be honest I've been having a couple of days angst so my racing has suffered a bit. Back to normal now. :D

I have gotten the new NKP patch to work good on my PC now an have been trying to adapt the standard setups more to my liking. Looking good!

Brilliant! Pass 'em on! :woot2:

Lazy method of multi-quoting :norty:

Quote from: Gnomie;289269Vobler, which series are you competing in this season? Jetta + Mazda?

 Can you check which licence I have now on the official site, please? :)

You are Class A 3.52 iR is 4042

I'm running Jetta only on road. But I have done a few oval races as well.

Heh, so they did in fact give me two "free" promotions. Can't complain about that. :D So then I won't have to worry about not being able to race the Ford GT when it's released.

BTW Inside Sim Racing did an interview with Dave Kaemmer in their latest episode (#46). Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFymfRNFU_M#t=30m13s)'s a direct link to the interview part. :)

Season 3 is over and finally I can breathe again.

As some of you know I have been racing this series lately. And I mean racing. This series has been the scariest sim racing I have seen. People are fighting extremely hard. Mostly due to the fact that the winner is going to be part of the selection process for the real series, and if he gets a ride, he gets it for free. A $45000 value. Young people was fighting for their racing career. It was awesome. I heard about people racing side by side laps at a time. Nothing was given for free, and the racing was clean but hard.

Anyway, the series does not have divisions as most iRacing series have. We all was in the same div. 1164 people raced during the season, many just a few races, but the competition was very hard all season. I ended at 50'th place, and I think that is a good result. For me anyway.

Next season I will most likely drive (yes not race) the Corvette. I need to just trundle around a few months. :D And maybe join a leauge or two.

Quote from: vobler;294027I ended at 50'th place, and I think that is a good result. For me anyway.

An interesting post, I had not know about that series. Great result for you. I've not raced iRacing at all for a long time, but I'm planning to try some of the slower cars the next season. Bad that it would not help with with the license promotion..

Quote from: vobler;294027I ended at 50'th place, and I think that is a good result. For me anyway.

Congratulations and nice to hear you had a great time doing it :thumb:

Quote from: vobler;294027Season 3 is over and finally I can breathe again.
. I ended at 50'th place, and I think that is a good result. For me anyway.

Well done Verner, to finish in the top 5% is excellent :yahoo:

Thanks guys!

BTW
Here is one of the fights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHzb982459E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Aqwg2QRik4

Nice job! :)

Who won the series? Is it someone we might have heard about before?

Quote from: Gnomie;294078Who won the series? Is it someone we might have heard about before?

His name is  Wyatt Gooden, I think he has been racing karts.

Cool! :)

I think Max Dell'Orco (or whatever his name is..) did pretty well too. I hear he's a hotshot in the iRacing world. Think he recently joined Orion.

Here is the latest article from inRacingNews on the Jetta Cup.

http://www.inracingnews.com/iracing-news/gooden-clinches-jetta-title-in-heart-pounding-finale/

I'm going to run the Corvette this season. It's a great car and it looks like I can drive it without problems. It feels like the slower you drive it the faster you go...:)

Had a great race tonight. 25 Laps at VIR full. Not very close racing, but had to stay focused the whole race due to people coming up behind me. Ended third of 19. (I love those posision lights on the cars :)) The sound, handling and feel is all I could wish for. I love it. :yahoo:

The Corvette is one of the worst cars I've ever had the displeasure of driving. Never have i driven a car outside of rFactor that snaps away at the rear with no idea its coming like that one does. If the tire model is right I'll eat my own feet.

...luckily to bring a sense of balance.. the Indycar is one of the best cars I've ever driven... absolutely fantastic!    I'll be re-subbing next week just so i can race it.  Fantastic stuff.  Without a doubt its the best high powered single seater I've ever driven.

Quote from: The Moose;295301The Corvette is one of the worst cars I've ever had the displeasure of driving. Never have i driven a car outside of rFactor that snaps away at the rear with no idea its coming like that one does. If the tire model is right I'll eat my own feet.

...luckily to bring a sense of balance.. the Indycar is one of the best cars I've ever driven... absolutely fantastic!    I'll be re-subbing next week just so i can race it.  Fantastic stuff.  Without a doubt its the best high powered single seater I've ever driven.

Nice to hear from you again Moose!

I don't agree about the Corvette, but I agree that the Dallara is fun. (still in the 100% Club)  But I don't like winged cars that much so I'll skip it for now.

I feel that the Corvette should not be overdriven. Just be gentle with it, and it will go fast.

I will of course chip in for your wheelchair.:D

So that's where you've been lately, Stu! Thought we'd lost you to the world of flight sims. :byebye:

I hear they released a tire physics update for the Corvette. Did that make it any better, you think?

And what about the Mazda? How do you like that compared to the Netkar cars?

Quote from: Gnomie;295324I hear they released a tire physics update for the Corvette. Did that make it any better, you think?

A lot of people (simknowitalls) report it to be worse.
I did not drive it more than five laps at Mosport with the old physics. (MÃ¥tte reise  pÃ¥ hytta fredagen :))

Quote from: Gnomie;295324So that's where you've been lately, Stu! Thought we'd lost you to the world of flight sims. :byebye:

I hear they released a tire physics update for the Corvette. Did that make it any better, you think?

And what about the Mazda? How do you like that compared to the Netkar cars?

You had actually lost me to flight sims and illness :)   I had to try out the new cars in iRacing though and was very impressed with the Dallara.  Way more so than the Lotus. It's definitely good enough to get me to re-sub for a month before i get bored of it again :D

The Corvette I've only driven since the update so i have no idea if it's better than before or not.  If it IS better then it must have been a complete joke before as its still horrible.  I'm so glad i get to try before i buy.:)

 As for the Mazda....   I haven't tried it since the new build so its not really fair to comment.  I absolutely hated it before the new build.  I'll give it a try later and see whats changed.  I always felt netKars singles seaters were streets ahead of the Mazda in all respects.  better tires, better feeling of the weight of the car, not the complete twitchfest that the Mazda is (was?)  The Mazda not only felt very wrong it sounded horrible and was just a bit arcadey compared to netKars SS's.  Hopefully it's better now...


@Vobler, Thanks for the wheelchair offer :D  I wont be needing it until you point me in the direction of the proof that there's nothing wrong with the tire physics though :sideways:

All the best
Simknowitall :lmfao:

Corvette battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS8JX_zIjjg

I was lucky to be able to join a hosted Skippy race yesterday. My first complete hosted session.

It was hosted by iRacing Danmark and it was Skippy at Brands Hatch GP. We started with a long practice, then 30 mins Qually and a 23 laps race. There where 15 people on the startlist but I think a couple missed it.

During practice most people did 1:41's. I also got a low 1:41 so I was happy, but during qually no matter what I did I could not replicate it. If I had a good lap I got a 1x and my lap was not counted. So I ended with 1:41.8 and 8 pos on the grid. The start went well but on lap 2 or 3 I was taking the inside line to T1 with too much speed so I slid wide and off the track. The car I was defending for had no where to go but in my gearbox. Luckily we both got only small damages and could continue without stop.
After that I tried to get in to a rhythm and the cars in front of me pulled away slowly. And a few guys that where faster than me got off the track and was pressuring me from behind. So I decided to let them go and drive my own pace. Half way in to the race I was 7 and the nearest car in front of me was 3-4 seconds away. I saw that if I pushed I could gain a few tenths on him per lap so I went for it. Slowly reeling him in. And with 2 laps to go I was very close, he then decided make a mistake and drive off the track so I could pass. :D Bad luck for him. In the end I ended 4. and was very pleased with that.

Hosting in iRacing feels as good as in any other sim so I hope to do more hosted races in the future.

In hosted races no SR or irating is in effect and anyone can drive any car/track as long as they own it. No need to be Class B+ to drive the Riley or Dallara if you wanted.

Now on to the Rolex 2.4. A big sim event this sunday. And please note that it is open to all iRacing members, regardless of license level. Drivers will qualify and be gridded into race sessions based on qualifying time and iRating.

If you own the Railey and Daytona just do a few practice laps and join one of the open practice sessions. Qualify when ready and join the race on sunday afternoon. Currently over 240 people have qualified so expect hundreds of people signing up with 5-10 server splits. With this amount of people signing in, almost everyone in the same split will be equal in performance.

If you have been looking for a long race, this is it.

Even though iRacing as a sim is developed at a pace never seen before. And people complaining about this or that feature. There are more to iRacing than that. We have big special events, Wourld cup etc. This post illustrates a little bit what they are doing.

Something positive from my viewpoint
Posted: Jan 28, 2010 7:42 PM    
By Scott Moore

I hate to interrupt the hand wringing party, but something hit me last night, something that I think has a lot of merit.

Does anyone else feel like we are actually part of something very special right now? We're standing right on the edge of seeing our (pick one: hobby, sport, pastime, passion) become something it has never been before. there are so many great things happening right now that to me, the small shortcomings tend to fade into the background. We have our drivers here getting coverage from the biggest American racing organization, race results being reported and those guys being recognized for what they have accomplished. We have great ambassadors for our sport crossing the line between real and virtual racing and blurring the division between the two. We have an event this weekend being run in conjunction with a huge real-world event, giving us a chance to be a part of something as special to the sim world as the Rolex is to racers all over. We've got the World Cup coming up- a first of it's kind. I think someday 4 or 5 years from now, saying you raced in the 2010 World Cup finals is going to carry some weight in this community, like someone saying they raced LeMans or the Indy 500 means to the current racing community.

These are small examples of what I think is the biggest growth sim racing has ever experienced in the public perception. We aren't over the hump yet, but there is no question we're headed in a uphill direction.

We're in a good place, even if we don't have animated pit stops and roof flaps.

Do you sometimes wonder if there is any activity at all in iRacing?

This was posted today in the iRacing forums

98 million laps and counting
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 5:26 PM    
By Tony Gardner

Actually past 100 million laps if you include the beta days. 98 million laps raced on iRacing since September of 08. Recently members doing about 300,000 laps per day!
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I'm on a roll here so here is an opinion from insiderracingnews.com
http://www.insiderracingnews.com/Writers/DD/012810.html

January 28, 2010

By Doug Demmons

An announcement was made last week at the NASCAR R&D Center that has the potential to change the future of racing.

And it has nothing to do with yellow lines, restrictor plates, spoilers or bump drafting.

The announcement -- the launch of a new NASCAR iRacing Series -- got a collective yawn from the media that was there to get the official word that the sanctioning body was about to sanction whatever the drivers wanted to do at Talladega and Daytona.

For those who still yearn for the old days -- when NASCAR wasnââ,¬â,,¢t even on TV -- this is going to be quite a shock. IRacing -- which has been around a while and counts Dale Earnhardt Jr. among its most famous participants -- isnââ,¬â,,¢t contested on asphalt. Itââ,¬â,,¢s done on your computer against other drivers who could be halfway around the world.

And hereââ,¬â,,¢s the really shocking part -- one day drivers who cut their teeth on iRacing will be the cream of the NASCAR crop.

How is that possible? How can someone who races at his desk possibly become a top driver?

The answer is simple -- practice, practice, practice.

Itââ,¬â,,¢s the same reason that Magnus Carlsen has become the youngest person ever to be ranked No. 1 in the world in chess and a grand master at the age of 13.

Carlsen learned the game playing computer chess against advanced algorithms. Playing against algorithms wonââ,¬â,,¢t teach you much about opponentsââ,¬â,,¢ styles and quirks, but it does afford the opportunity to play a whole lot of chess. Carlsen, in fact, was able to play multiple games simultaneously.

And that fits in with the theory that what separates experts in just about every field from everyone else is 10,000 hours of practice.

Natural talent is important, but plenty of people have that. To truly rise above the crowd and achieve at the top levels of your field you must practice relentlessly. And numerous studies have concluded that 10,000 hours seems to be the tipping point.

Itââ,¬â,,¢s spelled out in the book ââ,¬Å"Outliers,ââ,¬Â by Malcolm Gladwell, who quotes neurologist Daniel Levitin:

ââ,¬Å"In study after study, of composers, basketball players, fiction writers, ice skaters, concert pianists, chess players, master criminals, and what have you, this number comes up again and again. Of course, this doesnââ,¬â,,¢t address why some people get more out of their practice sessions than others do. But no one has yet found a case in which true world-class expertise was accomplished in less time. It seems it takes the brain this long to assimilate all that it needs to know to achieve true mastery.ââ,¬Â

Nobody just climbs into a stock car with minimal experience and wins on raw talent alone. It takes lots and lots of seat time before a driver can reach the top levels of the sport.

Unfortunately, seat time is a precious commodity. Without a wealthy family you have to somehow catch the eye of a team owner willing to take a chance on you and bring you along for years.

Thatââ,¬â,,¢s where iRacing can change the equation. Learning on a computer simulator can fill in the gaps -- hours and hours and hours of them.

And iRacingââ,¬â,,¢s program is amazingly realistic. Tracks have been laser-scanned to reproduce all the bumps and dips and quirks. And competitors can adjust virtually everything on the car that the real teams can adjust.

That doesnââ,¬â,,¢t mean iRacing can substitute for the feel of the real thing. When you spin out and smack the wall in iRacing you can just hit the reset button.

Magnus Carlsen wouldnââ,¬â,,¢t have achieved the No. 1 chess ranking if the only opponent he ever psyched out was an algorithm. But the ability to work out countless scenarios over and over until it all becomes second nature makes a huge difference.

It makes a difference whether itââ,¬â,,¢s chess or music or basketball or auto racing.

One day a kid is going to set the racing world on fire and iRacing will be the match that lights it.

First to those that do not know what this is; it is a tenth of the Rolex 24 hour race at Daytona. In iRacing we drive the Daytona Prototype Riley with a 500hp V8. The race is 90 laps on Daytona.

The whole week has been a hectic week of preparation, practise and qualification. As the race was the first of iRacings World tour races no one knew how it would turn out. All we knew was that there would be a maximum of 40 cars in each "split" (server). Most people expected between 300-400 people signing up for this historic event.

During practice I did a few full tank runs and knew I could pull off a one stop strategy, but chose to do a 2 stop to be able to have a lighter car and better tires the whole race.
My qualtime was about 0.7 seconds slower than my best practise time so I was happy with that.

On race day I had this race in my head the whole day, and as the start was at 1700 gmt I had almost too much time worrying about it...

When signing up the counter stopped on 950 racer. 950 people signing in for one race! I knew this was going to be huge. I had one failed connection due to the servers taking too long to sort the splits but the second try I was in. In my split I got car number 32. That means that my rating was well down and that there where 30 people with better rating than me. I started at pos 26. With a rolling start the first lap went smooth with all people beeing real gentlemen and driving within their limits.

Soon the race settled down, a few people went off and I was in the mid 20's at one time. Then traffic set inn with cars all around you, At lap 30 or there abouts I was planning to pit, busy changing my fuel load. While I was doing that and letting a faster car by I hit the curbs in T1 and spun. No damage, just a slow spin. I lost a few positions, pitted and got out again still feeling great. The only other "big" mistake was in to the bus stop where I missed my braking point and had to cut the course, giving me a slow down penalty. Lost a few positions there too.

After my last pit stop at about 60 laps I found myself racing for position with three cars. I decided to floor it. Cutting one second of my laptimes I found that the guy behind me was falling behind and that the guy in front got bigger... Soon I was on his tailpipes and we where battling a few laps until he made a small mistake and I managed to pass. I still kept it floored and saw him dissapear i the distance as I secured a great 21 position in this historic race. My total position was in the 300 out of 950. Thats around the top 1/3 pos. Fits nice with where I think I am skill wise.

All in all this was a huge event. Surely the biggest I have taken part of. The iRacing forums are full of nice comments. The drivers where cautious and the whole thing just felt very good. It's really a pity that not more of you guys want to take part in this.

It was a huge event and it has been a real "team building" event for the whole iRacing community.

Nice report Vobz. Looks like you had a load of fun ... and that's what it's all about :thumb:

Well done Verner :yahoo:
2.4 hours? Yee gods. My 'plumbing' system is stressed for the one hour race on Thursdays :sad:

If you want to see more of what iRacing has to offer check out this review at insidesimracing.tv
http://www.youtube.com/user/simracingtonight#p/a/u/0/3Shd5Gb32Y8

I'd rather see more of what Jessica Lopez has to offer :norty: