Dead Men Walking

Dead Men Walking - Bricks 'n Mortar => Our Server => Topic started by: OldBloke on September 01, 2008, 10:41:12 PM

Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: OldBloke on September 01, 2008, 10:41:12 PM
It's 22:39 and the forum has been very slow to respond for about the last ten minutes. Other sites are fine.

Anyone else noticing this?
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Doorman on September 01, 2008, 10:44:55 PM
Yep. It seems to have just recovered. I get it quite a lot. All other forums etc. are as per normal

EDIT: Very, very slow submitting this reply
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: OldBloke on September 01, 2008, 10:51:08 PM
Seems to have recovered.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Blunt on September 01, 2008, 10:56:37 PM
I had that....though I'd had a stroke:blink:
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Jewelz^ on September 01, 2008, 11:18:12 PM
probably dont help with all the google/yahoo spiders all over the forum :sideways:
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2008, 11:20:50 PM
Forum hasn't been slow for me at all.

PS this is my second post since I joined in 2002
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Jabbs on September 02, 2008, 06:38:44 AM
Quote from: BlueBall;242966PS this is my second post since I joined in 2002

Huh? Am I being dumb?

Maybe the slowness happens when the game servers are full? Lot of network activity etc? people downloading new maps all that kind of thing?
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2008, 07:51:45 AM
Quote from: Jabbs;242975Huh? Am I being dumb?

Maybe the slowness happens when the game servers are full? Lot of network activity etc? people downloading new maps all that kind of thing?
Forum hosted on different physical box.

game servers have more horsepower than you can shake a stick at.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: delanvital on September 02, 2008, 12:03:08 PM
Slow response happens once in a while. Usually gone the day after.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Jabbs on September 02, 2008, 06:46:06 PM
Quote from: BlueBall;242976Forum hosted on different physical box.

game servers have more horsepower than you can shake a stick at.

However I was talking about the network? The Internet connection etc?  I know the boxes are uber powerful so it didn't enter my mind.

If a map is being downloaded by half a dozen people for instance, then surely it's gonna have an impact on the 'lag' of other boxes on the server (i.e. teh web server).
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: DuVeL on September 03, 2008, 12:33:51 AM
The thing is, when people are at the LAN they usually pay for serverfunding and so.
What some people don't know is that -=[dMw]=- doesn't ask for a regular pay but it still needs to be financed (sorry about spelling, tad drunk here)
 
As in some clans you need to pay for servers and such.
-=[dMw]=- has it arranged but it goes all of the communityfunding.
Every LAN people pay for the serverfunds. Instead of paying a fund every month, we do it more like; If you can spare something for serverfunding it's all good.
 
So everyting that is aranged is good but do think about this stuff isn't for free.
 
My last syrupwaffle winning and more all went to the servercause as I know I could spare it and it goes to a good cause.
Think about that.
What the -=[dMw]=-  comunity does for and what you can do to it!
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Doorman on September 03, 2008, 09:17:50 AM
:blink: Are you sure you put your post in the right thread Pete? :)
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Penfold on September 03, 2008, 09:39:10 AM
:lmfao: Ron, I'm guessing not.

I think the:

Quote from: DuVeL;243145.............(sorry about spelling, tad drunk here).......
 

may be a clue as to the cause.
Shall we be kind and move the post it in its proper place? umm, nah......:devil:

PEN
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 03, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: Jabbs;243101However I was talking about the network? The Internet connection etc?  I know the boxes are uber powerful so it didn't enter my mind.

If a map is being downloaded by half a dozen people for instance, then surely it's gonna have an impact on the 'lag' of other boxes on the server (i.e. teh web server).

nope, all servers are connected with a dedicated 100mb connection.

The slowdowns will be due to the nightly backups that occur on the webserver. It's just the way it is and they are not going to be disabled so just go to bed and stop browsing!
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: OldBloke on September 03, 2008, 10:30:28 AM
DuVel's reply is in context when talking about what we have in terms of hardware/bandwidth, how we fund it and is that a restriction that contributes to poor perfomance. As Gandy has said, no it isn't.

Gandy - I'm aware of the backups but they only affect me just after midnight. This treacly episode was 22:30 - 22:50. :g:
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: DuVeL on September 03, 2008, 11:50:08 AM
Post is correct.
I was pointing to people who might also read this that we do need serverfunding and that we use it for the forums and servers.
 
So as OB said...
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Penfold on September 03, 2008, 11:56:35 AM
Boooo Boring

We much prefer the option where you may have been pished and misposted :D

PEN
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 03, 2008, 12:23:52 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;243168DuVel's reply is in context when talking about what we have in terms of hardware/bandwidth, how we fund it and is that a restriction that contributes to poor perfomance. As Gandy has said, no it isn't.

Gandy - I'm aware of the backups but they only affect me just after midnight. This treacly episode was 22:30 - 22:50. :g:

There are filesystem backups too, and one is monthly and starts at 22:22 so it looks like that one is what caused it.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: OldBloke on September 03, 2008, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: Gandalf;243185There are filesystem backups too, and one is monthly and starts at 22:22 so it looks like that one is what caused it.

AHA! See? An explanation. Sorted. :D
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Jabbs on September 03, 2008, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: Gandalf;243167nope, all servers are connected with a dedicated 100mb connection.

The slowdowns will be due to the nightly backups that occur on the webserver. It's just the way it is and they are not going to be disabled so just go to bed and stop browsing!

Thanks for clarification.  

Can the backups be scheduled for early hours of morning then? :blink:
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 04, 2008, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: Jabbs;243261Thanks for clarification.  

Can the backups be scheduled for early hours of morning then? :blink:

Not really or they'll clash with other backups. That monthly one is a biggie and takes quite a few hours to complete. It's only once a month anyway so isn't too much of an issue.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Jabbs on September 04, 2008, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: Gandalf;243304Not really or they'll clash with other backups. That monthly one is a biggie and takes quite a few hours to complete. It's only once a month anyway so isn't too much of an issue.

Cool :D
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Doorman on September 22, 2008, 11:04:55 PM
Quote from: Gandalf;243304Not really or they'll clash with other backups. That monthly one is a biggie and takes quite a few hours to complete. It's only once a month anyway so isn't too much of an issue.
If it's only monthly and the last one was on the 1st September, why is doing the same ole stuff on the 22nd?
I'm only asking.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2008, 07:58:43 AM
Quote from: Doorman;245507If it's only monthly and the last one was on the 1st September, why is doing the same ole stuff on the 22nd?
I'm only asking.

What time? If it's from midnight to the early hours of the morning then it's the standard weekly backups that, among others, backs up this website.

I could stop them of course, but a server crash would wipe out the community forums, which I'm sure you'd rather not happen.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2008, 08:08:38 AM
The forum and website started lagging at about 7pm last night and was unusable for me. I tried to make a post in here about the problem but I couldn't even do that.

the game servers were fine and tracerts to the web/forum IP were fine so it must have been an issue on the server side of the NIC.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2008, 08:17:54 AM
strange, just checked through the server logs and there is nothing showing that would indicate an issue. As the webserver and gameservers are on the same firewall, though seperated via a vlan, any network issues would affect all so I believe it rules out that.

I'll have a more detailed trawl through the logs to see if anything crops up.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2008, 09:10:20 AM
This may help:

The banner and top menu always came up pretty quickly, it seemed to be the database driven content that was slow (and it's doing it again just now)
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: OldBloke on September 23, 2008, 09:18:59 AM
09:18

Not slow for me.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2008, 09:28:14 AM
Quote from: BlueBall;245523This may help:

The banner and top menu always came up pretty quickly, it seemed to be the database driven content that was slow (and it's doing it again just now)

seems ok here too and no errors in the mysql log.

I'll run a verify on the db tables to see if anything crops up.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
No network probs that I can see.

C:\>tracert -d www.deadmen.co.uk

Tracing route to www.deadmen.co.uk [77.108.129.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     9 ms    15 ms     8 ms  10.125.64.1
  3    12 ms    20 ms    10 ms  80.195.0.5
  4    21 ms    22 ms    23 ms  195.182.178.90
  5    28 ms    19 ms    21 ms  62.252.192.94
  6    22 ms    23 ms    24 ms  62.253.185.78
  7    23 ms    25 ms    26 ms  195.66.224.151
  8    30 ms    24 ms    22 ms  87.127.236.98
  9    21 ms    23 ms    27 ms  87.127.236.38
 10    26 ms    24 ms    28 ms  84.45.104.178
 11    24 ms    27 ms    24 ms  77.108.128.2
 12    24 ms    30 ms    29 ms  77.108.129.36

Trace complete.

C:\>
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
db checks out fine, so I'll keep an eye on it.
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2008, 10:16:57 AM
just got this via msn from BB. Looks like the bearded ones company is to blame.

Quoteblueball says:
Been trying to post in forum but its waaaay too slow. Just realised that both Ron and I are on Virgin media so I blame them for the issue. You may want to mention that in forum because I cant get on to post  
blueball says:
Tried to RDP in and post from server but RDP fubarred as well  
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Doorman on September 23, 2008, 10:30:10 AM
What has Virgin got against dMw? Every other forum(LFS uk, iRacing US, and RSC NL, all work as you would expect. still like wading through molasses (I imagine)
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2008, 12:26:02 PM
Seems to be working OK again :g:
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Gone_Away on September 23, 2008, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: Doorman;245530What has Virgin got against dMw? Every other forum(LFS uk, iRacing US, and RSC NL, all work as you would expect. still like wading through molasses (I imagine)

I never did like Virgins..
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Lee on September 23, 2008, 03:05:46 PM
The forums were really slow for me last night too, they're OK now. I'm on Virgin too.

Off-topic: 1337 post. :D

Edit: Probably not Doorman, no!
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Doorman on September 23, 2008, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: Lee;245550The forums were really slow for me last night too, they're OK now. I'm on Virgin too.

Off-topic: 1337 post. :D

So we wont hear any more from YOU then! :flirty:
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: Jabbs on September 23, 2008, 06:20:16 PM
Quote from: Ninja_Freak;245541I never did like Virgins..

I'm on a Virgin and I have never had problems :whistle:
Title: Forum - slow response
Post by: T-Bag on September 23, 2008, 07:28:25 PM
Don't waste your 1337 post Lee, I'd let me rack up a nice lead in posts. :narnar:
As for the forum it went slow for me for a while but seems to be working again (and I'm on Virgin too)