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Dead Men Walking - Bricks 'n Mortar => News/Announcements => Topic started by: OldBloke on September 06, 2008, 10:09:33 AM

Title: We are changing
Post by: OldBloke on September 06, 2008, 10:09:33 AM
The senior admins are currently conducting an exercise to make the Dead Men Walking membership structure more appropriate for a multi-section gaming community such as ours. Our roots in CounterStrike are still reflected in a lot of our documentation. We will ensure that they will become generic and capable of being applied to all the games we support - now and in the future.

We have looked at the number of inactive Bravo and Charlie members and, with a broad brush, moved them to Alpha. Anyone who feels they have been moved inappropriately should appeal this decision to both TeaLeaf and OldBloke via PM.

The promotion structure is one area that will see a total rethink. So whilst this exercise is ongoing there will be no promotions within the community.
Title: We are changing
Post by: KKND on September 06, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
Good luck.:thumb:
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Post by: Jabbs on September 06, 2008, 01:11:18 PM
Always good to rethink and spring clean occasionally as it shows an active community rather than a stagnating one :D
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Post by: Lee on September 06, 2008, 01:51:26 PM
Agreed Jabbs, should be interesting to see what other changes this will bring.
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Post by: Gibbo on September 06, 2008, 05:10:27 PM
ahh so long as i have some people with me in alpha now :0
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Post by: OldBloke on September 06, 2008, 05:47:53 PM
Quote from: Gibbo;243711ahh so long as i have some people with me in alpha now :0

... about 2,000 as it happens :D
Title: We are changing
Post by: T-Bag on September 06, 2008, 07:02:42 PM
I doubt inactive people will complain too much. They might be confused when they next log on, but statistically that won't be for a while.
Good luck with the clean.
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Post by: DuVeL on September 06, 2008, 09:05:00 PM
Got to say that I did check if my brothers were put to Alpha.
They're not active lately but they'll be back.
 
Bravo and Charly is in my eyes still something to be worthy off...
 
Just wondering if Delta will ever come back...
Title: We are changing
Post by: OldBloke on September 06, 2008, 09:53:19 PM
Quote from: DuVeL;243742Just wondering if Delta will ever come back...

Not in the plan, no.
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Post by: Jabbs on September 06, 2008, 10:55:10 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;243748Not in the plan, no.

I think it's still in the dMw Community Structure thread though
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Post by: Dr Sadako on September 07, 2008, 07:11:05 AM
Quote from: Jabbs;243751I think it's still in the dMw Community Structure thread though

Well, the change haven't been applied yet (as we haven't been informed of the exact changes) and thus the old one is still there. Delta was a temporary thing for dMw when some were very actively playing matches.
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Post by: Bastet on September 07, 2008, 09:02:53 AM
Bravo and Charlie is something that is earned, but its not fair to expect to be keeping it if you dont show yourself for ages. Fair move. :)
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Post by: GhostMjr on September 07, 2008, 03:35:27 PM
Personally i think this is a pretty strong move to take. Certain members have worked hard for their bravo and charlie status and simply because they are inactive they shouldn't be demoted imho. I can see the reason for the move but surely if you had been inactive for a few months came back and realised that you had been demoted i'd be pretty annoyed.

I remember a few months ago at Tealeaf's bbq last year Doorman myself and Smilodon were discussing the clan structure as it currently is. They thought that it was good to have charlie and bravo structures as you were guaranteed a constructive and enjoyable game of cs but the groups were getting too large.

Thats my 2 pence.
Title: We are changing
Post by: OldBloke on September 07, 2008, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: GhostMjr;243835Personally i think this is a pretty strong move to take. Certain members have worked hard for their bravo and charlie status and simply because they are inactive they shouldn't be demoted imho. I can see the reason for the move but surely if you had been inactive for a few months came back and realised that you had been demoted i'd be pretty annoyed.

Quote from: OldBloke;243650... Anyone who feels they have been moved inappropriately should appeal this decision to both TeaLeaf and OldBloke via PM.

No appeals yet. Also, Bravo/Charlie members who were still regularly contributing to the forum but not gaming were not demoted.
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Post by: Penfold on September 07, 2008, 04:15:34 PM
Fair enough Ghosty but may I remind you that the standards:

Bravo:

QuoteThe player must have consistently demonstrated good teamwork, knowledge of the TCS rules and an active presence on the forums.
Charlie :

QuoteCharlie Company members are expected to make an ongoing and positive contribution to the community
The people dropped from Bravo and Charlie have been absent from both the foums and the game servers for a lot longer than a few months.

PEN
Title: We are changing
Post by: GhostMjr on September 07, 2008, 04:30:40 PM
Thanks for your replies chaps.

I agree Pen it's a shame as i miss some of the old regulars :S.
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Post by: Doorman on September 07, 2008, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: GhostMjr;243835I remember a few months ago at Tealeaf's bbq last year Doorman myself and Smilodon were discussing the clan structure as it currently is. They thought that it was good to have charlie and bravo structures
You didn't hear that from my lips. :eyebrow:
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Post by: Free on September 07, 2008, 05:26:50 PM
I've been away for a while. and i'd get it if you had put me as an Alpha company.

Like evryone says, it's something that you earn, but once you've got it, you've got to keep it going!
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Post by: Niel on September 07, 2008, 05:44:34 PM
ooo dear...looks like i'm on my way to the ranks then :rolleyes:
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Post by: OldBloke on September 07, 2008, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Niel;243849ooo dear...looks like i'm on my way to the ranks then :rolleyes:

We are aware of the Charlie members active in WOW. :flirty:
Title: We are changing
Post by: Penfold on September 07, 2008, 07:13:21 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;243851We are aware of the Charlie members active in WOW. :flirty:

Even though they're misguided.
:flirty:

PEN
Title: We are changing
Post by: Penfold on September 07, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
Quote from: GhostMjr;243840I agree Pen it's a shame as i miss some of the old regulars :S.

Me too :crying:

However it's not as though they've been thrown out of dMw and should they make a welcome return they can always be reinstated once they start participating again.

In fairness, some of the people demoted haven't been online in years.

PEN
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Post by: WhiteWolf on September 08, 2008, 03:50:26 PM
This is indeed a pretty big change for the community but I can't see any reasons for it not to be done..
.. so good luck:D
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Post by: big-paddy on September 08, 2008, 08:01:07 PM
I'm in favour too. As a slightly active person though I would propose that as you aork things through you might write some words that make it all crystal clear to everyone what is expected. It doesn't seem fair for people to lose something wiothout understanding why.
Title: We are changing
Post by: OldBloke on September 08, 2008, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: big-paddy;244064I'm in favour too. As a slightly active person though I would propose that as you aork things through you might write some words that make it all crystal clear to everyone what is expected. It doesn't seem fair for people to lose something wiothout understanding why.

Yep. In hand.
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Post by: Sithvid on September 09, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;243851We are aware of the Charlie members active in WOW. :flirty:
:sideways:
I am trying to get back to CS but my PC is causing me problems.

Could someone perhaps weed the members list ? some of the comments and characters are not ... relevant
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Post by: Penfold on September 09, 2008, 07:38:15 PM
Such as? :)

PEN
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Post by: Gone_Away on September 09, 2008, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: Sithvid;244212:sideways:
Could someone perhaps weed the members list ? some of the comments and characters are not ... relevant

Sorry, but I too am trying to understand the relevence of your comment?
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Post by: Salvatore Buttafacio on September 09, 2008, 11:41:22 PM
Bit off topic but what happened to that Roster that use to be on the homepage? Think it was ages ago, maybe 5 years ago? The one with hilarious comments bout all the people in dmw :g:
Title: We are changing
Post by: Blunt on September 10, 2008, 12:01:14 AM
Quote from: Salvatore Buttafacio;244250Bit off topic but what happened to that Roster that use to be on the homepage? Think it was ages ago, maybe 5 years ago? The one with hilarious comments bout all the people in dmw :g:
homepage?
we have a homepage?
I just use Todays posts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU) as a bookmark

send me a link to the homepage thingy:blink:
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Post by: smilodon on September 10, 2008, 12:31:23 AM
Sadly it's gone. I fear the Admins discovered most of it was all made up rubbish... apart from my entry which was the 'gods honest truth', every word.
Title: We are changing
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2008, 10:13:56 AM
Quote from: Blunt;244253homepage?
we have a homepage?
I just use Todays posts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU) as a bookmark

send me a link to the homepage thingy:blink:
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/cmps_index.php or click on "home" in the nav bar to the left :narnar:
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Post by: delanvital on September 10, 2008, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: Salvatore Buttafacio;244250Bit off topic but what happened to that Roster that use to be on the homepage? Think it was ages ago, maybe 5 years ago? The one with hilarious comments bout all the people in dmw :g:

I think that has been with Kreg for some time now?
Title: We are changing
Post by: kregoron on September 10, 2008, 04:06:53 PM
errmm yeah it has, actually thought i already posted it in the admin section a month ago? or did i fail at that?
I still lack some comments, but its basicly done :)
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Post by: TeaLeaf on September 11, 2008, 07:40:57 AM
Post it again will you please as I can't find it.  Cheers Kreg!

TL.
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Post by: kregoron on September 11, 2008, 06:51:14 PM
Hmms, my FF has some serious issues atm, cant really upload anything by it atm :S ill send it to you on msn tl
Title: We are changing
Post by: OldBloke on October 29, 2008, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;243650... The promotion structure is one area that will see a total rethink. So whilst this exercise is ongoing there will be no promotions within the community.

Promotions are now active again. However, the promotion criteria has been changed and the details can be seen here (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3128).

The basic change is that membership of Bravo/Charlie can no longer be applied for. It is at the discretion of the Section Head Admin as to who is promoted. It is the duty of our current Charlie Company members to ensure that our Section Head Admins are made aware of potential promotion candidates.
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Post by: sulky_uk on October 29, 2008, 01:31:33 PM
good changes coming in
 
 keep up the good work lads:thumbsup:
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Post by: Lee on October 29, 2008, 05:15:01 PM
Seems fair to me, the delta membership wasn't really relevant for us now.
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Post by: Snokio on October 29, 2008, 08:28:04 PM
Delta is for section (or alike) admins in a round about way, would be good to see it (IMHO) but anywho, good job!

Hey Hektor! long time no see mate! :thumb: you back in Germany?

(p.s. do a 'hello I'm back' thread before this thread gets hi-jacked :flirty: )
Title: We are changing
Post by: OldBloke on November 02, 2008, 09:59:03 PM
Another important step in the change process was completed during discussions held at this weekend's LAN. In order for us to move this forward more quickly we have appointed Smilodon as 'Section Head - Forum Administration'.

More information about the changes will be posted here soon.
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Post by: Lee on November 02, 2008, 10:18:40 PM
Congrats, well earned! :flirty:
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Post by: KKND on November 03, 2008, 05:45:30 PM
Congrats indeed.:)
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Post by: smilodon on November 03, 2008, 06:19:07 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;249445More information about the changes will be posted here soon.

Good, because I have no clue what I'm doing :)
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Post by: Snokio on November 03, 2008, 06:51:55 PM
:lmfao: congrats!
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Post by: WhiteWolf on November 03, 2008, 06:56:02 PM
Congratulations Smilo:yahoo:
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Post by: Penfold on November 03, 2008, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: smilodon;249537Good, because I have no clue what I'm doing :)

'In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king' :flirty:

That's my take on it.

PEN
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Post by: da_Ricci on November 03, 2008, 08:49:11 PM
If you guys think you have too change the structure for the good cause of dMw then do it.
I hope i will be here a lot more to annoy you guys.:g:
Keep up the good work.
 
Gratz Da_Ricci
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Post by: Gibbo on November 14, 2008, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: OldBloke;243721... about 2,000 as it happens :D

2,000 you have got to be having me on
o by the way im still in clan but i dont get me pc untill half term:doh:
Title: Thread Closed
Post by: OldBloke on November 17, 2008, 11:17:37 AM
A new thread (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25329) with more detail has been created.