I'm now looking at the forum structure and how we can simplify the way we manage the private areas.
I think we need to have fewer private areas and to make it easy for the people with the authority to give access to them.
Smilo/Pen - Can we introduce access to these areas via hidden groups?
My take on the areas where this could be applied ...
Subscribers only - auto
Match players - added by Section Heads
Game admins - added by Section Heads
So, for example, if Doorman awards a racer the red badge (Admin) then he would also add them to the 'dMr Admin' group which would give that person access to the 'Game Admins' section including any sub forums.
Is that possible to do?
Quote from: OldBloke;256930I'm now looking at the forum structure and how we can simplify the way we manage the private areas.
I think we need to have fewer private areas and to make it easy for the people with the authority to give access to them.
Smilo/Pen - Can we introduce access to these areas via hidden groups?
My take on the areas where this could be applied ...
Subscribers only - auto
Match players - added by Section Heads
Game admins - added by Section Heads
So, for example, if Doorman awards a racer the red badge (Admin) then he would also add them to the 'dMr Admin' group which would give that person access to the 'Game Admins' section including any sub forums.
Is that possible to do?
Ah! I knew there was something to do. :doh: I made Gnomie an admin but I couldn't make him a dMrAdmin on the forum. There's no 'Save changes' button. Didn't we have this problem before OB?
Quote from: Doorman;256963Ah! I knew there was something to do. :doh: I made Gnomie an admin but I couldn't make him a dMrAdmin on the forum. There's no 'Save changes' button. Didn't we have this problem before OB?
Indeed. It needed a forum administrator to change people's permissions. I'm hoping that Smilo/Pen/Gandy can achieve this with hidden groups i.e. they're not visible to the punters to apply for access to.
I'm wondering if it's possible to tie in with the automated script I wrote that handles the subscriptions. That way it'll make it simple for the section heads as it'll automatically assign group membership based on awards given.
Will need to look into this and get back to you.
Otherwise we'll have to sort out some joinable groups and set the section heads as group leaders. It works, but it's extra and may get forgotton.
Quote from: Armitage;257133The Cod section is fine. I just need to limit the people who can see the COD4 Matches and Tactics to those with COD badges.
Plus Target and Snokio need to Moderate the match section, which I think they can already.
miss placed this one :doh:
Thought I'd add some thoughts here (plus I cannot read the PM's in my Nokia :sad: )
I think we need to set the forum structure to mirror the community structure. So we use primary groups to match the subscription level and secondary groups to control forum access.
We could dump the alpha, bravo and charlie groups or at least convert them into subscriber and non subscriber.... or whatever best mirrors the basic new community structure. We then use secondary groups to control forum access. We seem to have more than we need though?
I'm not sure that having both subscriber groups and the old alpha etc groups is wise as we already have a plethora of groups and permissions. I'd like a set up where we only have groups that have actual group members and we don't duplicate anything uneccessarily.
Before we start doing anything drastic with usergroups IMHO we need to have the exact community structure in place. Are we keeping the alpha etc? If so what purpose do the old groups serve?
Quote from: smilodon;257451Thought I'd add some thoughts here (plus I cannot read the PM's in my Nokia :sad: )
I think we need to set the forum structure to mirror the community structure. So we use primary groups to match the subscription level and secondary groups to control forum access.
We could dump the alpha, bravo and charlie groups or at least convert them into subscriber and non subscriber.... or whatever best mirrors the basic new community structure. We then use secondary groups to control forum access. We seem to have more than we need though?
I'm not sure that having both subscriber groups and the old alpha etc groups is wise as we already have a plethora of groups and permissions. I'd like a set up where we only have groups that have actual group members and we don't duplicate anything uneccessarily.
Before we start doing anything drastic with usergroups IMHO we need to have the exact community structure in place. Are we keeping the alpha etc? If so what purpose do the old groups serve?
That is what I believe was going to happen. TBH, with the number of groups we have we really do need to be careful in doing this and take some time in the setup as it could go wrong. Maybe another get together session to do it all. So much easier face to face than going back and forwards over a thread!
I *thought* the only private section outside of the individual games was going to be for subscribers.
So in essence, we have two tiers:
General forum for non-supporters
General forum + extra private area for supporters (things like first sign up to LAN etc etc).
Then the individual private game admin areas as handled by the relevant section head or auto-linked to admin badge if that can be done.
PEN
That's no bad idea. I'm just worried we're in danger of adding a whole new structure on top of an existing one. My empty void of a social life makes any weekend an option.
Penfold where are the pizza's
PS. Sorry Pen I posted this before I saw you had opened the new PM thread. We can continue the conversation in which ever is the most appropriate place :)
doesn't really matter - here is fine
I'm happy to meet up if necessary although I'm not sure that we really need to.
If I get this right... All we need to do remove the permissions for avatars, signatures and pm's from all the existing usergroups (bar adminsitrators) and then set up a new group call supporters which has those permissions reinstated.
The we link the supporter badge to the new supporters usergroup and those members should get their permissions back..... or at least I think that's it? :g:
PEN
Quote from: Penfold;257459doesn't really matter - here is fine
I'm happy to meet up if necessary although I'm not sure that we really need to.
If I get this right... All we need to do remove the permissions for avatars, signatures and pm's from all the existing usergroups (bar adminsitrators) and then set up a new group call supporters which has those permissions reinstated.
The we link the supporter badge to the new supporters usergroup and those members should get their permissions back..... or at least I think that's it? :g:
PEN
esentially yes, but as smilo pointed out, there are a lot of groups that are redundant and need removing. but in doing so we'll need to decide on the new structure to ensure that it all conforms with the new plan.
to get it running quick, the above will work, but we'd need to redo the groups at some point anyway so doing it all at once makes sense (at least to me)
:2cents:
It's all fine up to Bravo section. apart from I would add a Private area in each gaming section for badge holder banter
example of game section:
Server Rules public
Badge Holder Banter private
Matches and tactics private
main forum public
Bravo banter should be available to anyone with any badge
Hello, I'm new to Bravo Company! removed
Advanced Tactical Skills removed
dMw Amsterdram Trip - 2008 should be available to anyone with any badge
CS Public Admins Moved to CS section
Announcements - Private bit of a mess this one.
Yabba Yabba removed
Tips 'n' Tactics Moved to private CS section
Update Your Availability! Moved to private CS section (may be add one for COD if needed)
Questionable Behaviour on dMw Publics games private section
Announcements & General Discussion - Training & Matches games private section
dMw Matches and Training (Private) This is all CS
I think we can get it working without much of a problem, as Gandy says. But to get it streamlined and easy to work with in the future needs some more work. If the mighty Gandalf is unhappy about ripping the forum permissions up I'm certainly not touching it with a barge pole on my own :norty:
Armitage makes a good point about the forum. However as another example we have CS:S matches and teams forums in the Charlie section but for COD 4 they're in the COD4 section. If the charlie section goes where do these forums live. Do subscribers become charlies? I thought not. I thought they were bravos? What are charlies? What stuff do we put in the forums for those people who in Oldies inimitable words "Are the sort of people who just have the 'right stuff'"? Do we call the sections alpha bravo and charlie?
IMHO the current format cannot survive the new structure and we need to update it properly with some judicious pruning etc. As for the forum permissions we have half a dozen user groups with no members, at least three that seem to offer identical permissions and even one called Arrgghh Crap Legit that I still have no idea what it's there for? Armitage is in it so maybe he knows?
If Gandy and I were that awful that we're never to set foot on the Penfold Country Estate again, then fair enough :) , but we do need to have some discussion about how to get the forum updated to match the expectations of the community and future proofed for further expansion etc.
Quote from: smilodon;257513... IMHO the current format cannot survive the new structure and we need to update it properly with some judicious pruning etc.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Let's design the structure then implement it.
I remember some concerns about the Charlie status and whether it was decided to keep it or something equivalent. Or do we just run with the subscribers and non subscribers, plus the groups for forum permissions?
You're welcome to come visit again. Please just remember to sign out with the Guard at the gate next time. :flirty:
My only concern is timings. I'm painfully aware that time is slipping by and realistically I'm struggling to find a day on the weekend free this month (and I presume that weekdays are not possible?).
PEN
Quote from: smilodon;257530I remember some concerns about the Charlie status and whether it was decided to keep it or something equivalent. Or do we just run with the subscribers and non subscribers, plus the groups for forum permissions?
As far as I see it, we have two choices.
1. Make it as inclusive as possible and have supporter and non-supporter sections. +1's are that it's inclusive and fair-to-all. The -1's are that any numpty can pay £12 and we're stuck with them. At least with current structure we are able to filter them out from some parts of the forum.
2. Have a non-supporter (equiv. to Alpha) section, supporter (equiv. to Bravo) section and a 3rd private section. However how and who determines those appropriate? You could have a 3rd section for Golden Members as then, at least, one has more control over who gets the final badge required (quality forum contributor) and therefore who is let in but it reeks a bit of nepotism.
It's actually quite a tough call. I think we need to be transparent and inclusive but potentially we opening ourselves up to complete twonks.
PEN
PS. Let me know about meeting up.
If we can get something that works quick and dirty for the time being and then plan to meet for a big clean up, streamline and sort out at a later date, that would work for me.
We could go with non subscriber - Alpha
Subscriber - Bravo
Invite only (for the 'right sort') - charlie. Maybe a sort of ambassador for the community. Long standing, supportive either in game or on forum, mature and thoroughly decent..... sort of like me really :devil: This would be an inner sanctum but I'm a little unsure as to what exactly we would put there to make it worth getting access to.... free pron maybe?
Then for each game section we could run a private server admin forum for red badge holders, a private forum for green badge holders (not sure what they would want to talk about here?), a public forum for all to see and post in and any game specific forums such as modding, info, maps etc
Then we'd need to clean up any forums that don't fit into the above. The permissions could wait for a meet up at The Penfold Winter Castle?
Quote from: smilodon;257553. free pron maybe?
I really must protest at your spelling. It's
pr0n :rolleyes: Now, you were saying?
ACL was an old wow guild with only a few members in the day of SOG.
Now was not the original plan that GOLD members are the new Charlie and the key to achieving this was the forum badge. So we always have the key to the door being subjective.
Dead Men Walking - The Community
dMw Community Structure
Forums Acceptable Use Policy
Server Password - Guests
The dMw Home Page: www.deadmen.co.uk (http://www.deadmen.co.uk)
dMw Affiliate Links
Badge Holders Banter (for holders of one badge of any flavor)
Hello, I'm just got an award!
Subscribers Section. (for advanced LAN bookings)
dMw Gaming
COD4 (public)
..CoD4 Server Rules (public)
..COD4 Private Chat (COD4 badge holders only)
..CoD4 Help Section (public)
..CoD4 Matches and Tactics (COD4 badge holders only)
..CoD4 Match Availabilty (COD4 badge holders only)
Counter-Strike: Source (for whitey)
Dead Men Racing
Live for Speed
..LfS Server Status
..LFS Combos
..dMr Live Action
..dMr Combo Stats
..LfS Server Remote Viewer
iRacing
netKar Pro
GT Legends
World of Warcraft (for sheepy)
dMw's Community Centre (all public)
News/Announcements
Compost Corner
Hello, I'm New Here......
Banter
Our Server
....Problem Reports
....Change Requests
....Planned Changes/Outages
Tech Section ( Combine Hardware, Software, Peripherals, Connection, Case-Modding and Overclocking,PDAs, Mobiles, Cameras and Gadgets)
The Exchange
Dead LAN Walking
dMw LAN XV
Seriously though ...
Smite's Spray Shop
Movies, Music & Books
Laugh? I nearly started.
Look What I Found on the Internet
Dead Men Folding (public)
dMw Admins
Head and Section Admins
Game Admins
..CoD4 Admins
..CS Admins
..dMr Admins
..Left 4 Dead
Old Boys Network
Good points but I'd argue the rules for getting a gold badge don't match the original concept of a charlie member. Being a Charlie was about being a certain type of player/person not about ticking specific boxes. For example I don't fold and I'm never likely too. By the current rules I would never get the gold badge and never get the 'charlie' status. Likewise several of our strongest most active players hardly post at all on the forum.
If the criteria has changed to require involvement in the forum, folding, playing at least one game plus a general mature likable attitude, then that's fine and the gold badge works well. Otherwise the gold badge and the original concept for charlie membership IMHO are not the same?
Do we really need a Charlie Equivalent section?
Apart form the Yabba Yabba section, the other germane stuff will be covered under games and the Yabba Yabba section is hardly used to any great degree.
If you want to go down the 'private invitee section' then so be it but I can't see it really being used that much tbh.
I think Arm's forum tree is fine except that Golden Members won't be charle equiv. All in all it is pretty much spot on.
if it's decided that we need a private section for selected people then se be it, it can be like an Old Boys Network.
I'm keen to push this forward while it's still fresh and we don't lose the impetus.
Can the relevant Game Section Heads please confirm if the proposed structure suits their games (or what else the need) and Smilo, does this work with the forum.
Let's try and keep on top of this.
PEN
PS. As my previoous post states, if you'd like to meet up then fine. I don't suppose you chaps can do weekdays???? I'm presuming not and I can try and shunt a diary event or two to make space if needed.
We've done 90% of the work, let's keep on top of it and get the job finished :thumbsup2:.
PPS. If we need to adjust the criteria for Gold Members then that's fine. We so also need to have a criteria for 'quality forum contributor' and this is a tricky one. I think we do need to have some sort of guidelines here Greg.
weekdays are fine for me, just say when if required.
I mention it as I remember Oldie was keen to keep the spirit of Charlie alive (sounds like a perfume advert) in the community. Charlie status was something you earned where as now it seems you can buy it. I have no strong opinion either way, so if I was wrong about the desire to keep a part of the community for 'the right sort' then we have no issues.
Weekdays with enough notice are fine for me too.
As to the forum contributor, I have no idea. I am not able to read all the posts that are made and so don't really have a clear idea about how it would be done. We do need a clear unambiguous set of guidelines as to what is required to get the badge which should be doable. It's the monitoring of posts and identification of recipients that's beyond me.
I still thought that was the original concept of the gold member. If not whats the point of a Gold Member.
Whitey, Ron & Sheepy still need to fill in there game section stuff
Quote from: smilodon;258238I mention it as I remember Oldie was keen to keep the spirit of Charlie alive (sounds like a perfume advert) in the community. Charlie status was something you earned where as now it seems you can buy it. I have no strong opinion either way, so if I was wrong about the desire to keep a part of the community for 'the right sort' then we have no issues.
I need to clarify this :D
There is no way I would sanction the 'buying' of status within dMw. My goal was to try and keep the sense of achievement that being made a Charlie brought. I was looking at the new badge system to see if a 'fit' could be achieved but decided against it.
There is a position within dMw that goes beyond the old Charlie status - the 'right stuff' I'm always bleating about. We had game playing Charlies who didn't have it and we have non playing members who do (OB looks at Smilo). Do we need a secret society of those we think are made of the right stuff? No we don't. Instead we recognise these people (quite easily really) and we try to ensure that we give them positions of responsibility within the community to help us going forward.
Quote from: smilodon;258238As to the forum contributor, I have no idea. I am not able to read all the posts that are made and so don't really have a clear idea about how it would be done. We do need a clear unambiguous set of guidelines as to what is required to get the badge which should be doable. It's the monitoring of posts and identification of recipients that's beyond me.
Quote from: Armitage;258241I still thought that was the original concept of the gold member. If not whats the point of a Gold Member.
The green forum badge is going to be a nightmare. It will not be possible IMHO to award this as a badge of quality forum posting without putting a lot of noses out of joint. Without a way of measuring forum quality then the Gold Member badge needs to be reassessed too.
Shall we just scrap the forum quality contributor badge then ?
Greg - your call but really, if it's going to be a complete sod then let's put it on ice for the moment.
can Whitey, Ron and Sheepy please fill in their section so we can get this put to bed.... pm'd to that effect.
Thanks
PEN
Quote from: Penfold;258286Shall we just scrap the forum quality contributor badge then ?
Greg - your call but really, if it's going to be a complete sod then let's put it on ice for the moment.
can Whitey, Ron and Sheepy please fill in their section so we can get this put to bed.... pm'd to that effect.
Thanks
PEN
My head is spinning! :blink: There is a dMr section in the forum, a dMr admin section in the admin bit, the players are designated drivers or admins. I've obviously had my head up my backside 'cos I'm at a loss as to what you want from me. :sad:
Quote from: Armitage;258241If not whats the point of a Gold Member.
To impress the girls? :devil:
Sorry if I'm being obtuse.
The forum is being restructured so what we need to know from you is what sections you'd like under your dMr section.
If it's the same as now then that's fine. If you'd like to change any of your sections or add/remove any existing ones then please let us know.
Your current forum structure is
Dead men Racing
..Live For Speed
.....................Lfs Server Status
.....................LFS Combos
.....................dMr Live Action
.....................dMr Combo Stats
.....................LfS Server Remote Viewer
..iRacing
..netKar Pro
..GT Legends
Is this structure fine as is or are there any changes you'd like? :)
Thanks
PEN
Filled in already Pen
Quote from: Penfold;258299Sorry if I'm being obtuse.
The forum is being restructured so what we need to know from you is what sections you'd like under your dMr section.
If it's the same as now then that's fine. If you'd like to change any of your sections or add/remove any existing ones then please let us know.
Your current forum structure is
Dead men Racing
..Live For Speed
.....................Lfs Server Status
.....................LFS Combos
.....................dMr Live Action
.....................dMr Combo Stats
.....................LfS Server Remote Viewer
..iRacing
..netKar Pro
..GT Legends
Is this structure fine as is or are there any changes you'd like? :)
Thanks
PEN
The status quo is good :D
Counter-Strike:Source (public)
..Tactical Counter-Strike (public)
..CS:S Help Section (public)
..CS:S Mapping & Modelling (public)
..CS:S Advanced Tactical Skills (CS Triallist & CS badge holders)
..CS:S Private Chat (CS badge holders only)
..CS:S Matches and Tactics (CS badge holders only)
..CS:S Match Availabilty (CS badge holders only)
I'm not sure if the "CS Public admin" forum should go in the "Counter-Strike:Source" area or the "dMw Admins->Game Admins" area, as long as the permissions stay so that it's only the Public admins and Full Admins that can see it, I don't mind.
What is the plan for moving things from the old structure to the new structure?
So are we set? When's the big change planned?
So now we have the new structure in place Gandy and Smilo, do we need to meet up to implement it or can it be done remotely?
If we need to meet up - I can free up some time next Saturday 24th if that helps?
If it can be done remotely then that's fine.
We just need to work out the bit about supporters vs non-supporters and the groups relating to avatar's and sigs.
PEN
go and make the changes on the test forum and see if it works. that's why I created it :D should be no need to meet then.
I'll have a think about how I would like the "server" part of the forums (you know, server info, working on server, problem reports, change requests (I hadn't forgotton OB))
Updated wtih above comments and moved to this thread as more active:
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25914
right, somethings come up and I'm not going to be about much this weekend at all.
I'm sure you'll be fine, just test on the test forum.
Ok joy.
I'll try and have a go over the weekend and then you guys can check it. I'm not going to do the permissions as, frankly, I'm not overly confident in my abilities as yet.
I'll mock up the forum and we can take it from there.
Thanks
PEN
I can do them next week. I'm pretty busy this weekend and have been since Xmas. But as of Monday things get more sensible again and I'll actually have some evening to myself.
There's no rush and I don't want Pen to feel pressured to take this on on his own ... rearrange boys :D
Ok Update.
I've now done the forum re-jig on the test forum.
Gandy, can you please give it the once over to have a look to see that it roughly makes sense?
I wasn't sure how to amalgamate the incumbent messages into the new structure - so that will need to be done - or, indeed, tell me how I do that.
PEN
Well they look good to me. It's just the forum re-structuring you've done correct?
As for moving threads, there is a bulk move option in the Threads & Posts part of the admin CP. Have a play on the test forum to get a feel for it.
Yup.
So I presume by deleting the no defunct forums instead of moving them I've buggered it up somewhat?
In hindsight, I guess I should have created a new forum with the restructured tree and moved the existing forum to another section. Then, once the new structure was in place, move the threads from the existing forums into the new forum and archiving defunct sections?
Or can the posts from this forum be incorporated into the new structure?
Confused from Surrey :g:
Ahh you've deleted forums? Not sure what that does to the posts as I've never deleted one before! You can re-name existing forums and then move to where they need to go and create new for any that you need.
Anyway, the forum part is the easy bit. It's the permissions that gets interesting and will require some thought :p
I am about tomorrow so can assist if required. We could always hook up on TS to talk over the more tricky items.
Ok so that's FBAR'ed.
Can you refresh the test forum from this one so i can start again and not delete the forums - sorry
With regards to permissions, I ain't touching it. I don't understand it am not doing it without help. I'm just not confident enough
Thanks
PEN
I can refresh them, yes. But it will slow down everything while the restore occurs.
Sorry - let's do it now as it's a quiet time rather than over the weekend.
Everyone can blame me - I can take it :rolleyes:
I'll post it up in announcements section
PEN
all done. took about 20 minutes and it does totally freeze up the server as apache and mysql live on the same box.
I am planning on getting a separate DB server but that won't be for a while so please try not to mess this one up as I won't be doing a restore again for a while :narnar:
Yeah didn't realise it totally froze it.
OK. So I'm going to have another go.
This is my plan:
1. rename forums to new name and location where possible.
2. Move no defunct forums to separate 'to be filed' holding area
3. create new missing forums
4. move 'to be filed' forums to archive or relevant posts to other sections.
Am I right in thinking that once we're happy with this then we'll do it on the real forum rather than make the test forum the real one (so we don't lost posts in between).
PEN
yup, make notes of the steps you use as we will not be able to do a 'make test live' operation.
Quote from: Gandalf;260984I am planning on getting a separate DB server but that won't be for a while so please try not to mess this one up as I won't be doing a restore again for a while :narnar:
Question: Would it not be possible to use some of the huge amounts of horsepower in BA4 to run that for you?
not really as the database also has business related db's too.
Quote from: Gandalf;260995not really as the database also has business related db's too.
Ah well, it was worth a shot to see if we could help out.
Do not fear about the permissions. I've already made up a few dummy permission trees for when the forum structure is done. Obviously I'll need to tweak it when the forum structure is complete, as I cannot see the test forums.
Worryingly the permissions seems reasonably straight forward. So I'm clearly heading for a disaster :blink:
A couple of thoughts/queries though.
1. Do we want a single game admin group or one for each game. I.e. do we want admins from WOW seeing the private admin forums for racing or CS seeing CoD4? I only ask as it might cause a problem if say WOW officer comes to CoD4 and behaves badly on the server. If he's an officer in WOW he may be able to see the admins in CoD4 discussing his behaviour, lack of understanding of the rules etc. etc. Likewise the other game sections? Personally I'm working on a forum group for each game so having permissions for each gaming section would not be a big issue.
2. Do we want to make a destinction between badge holders and subscribers (payers)? Some people may obviously be one but not the other. Will we be having forum sections accessabel by subscribers but not non subscribers? Would having a badge offer the same priviledges as paying subs?
Quote from: smilodon;261120Do not fear about the permissions. I've already made up a few dummy permission trees for when the forum structure is done. Obviously I'll need to tweak it when the forum structure is complete, as I cannot see the test forums.
Worryingly the permissions seems reasonably straight forward. So I'm clearly heading for a disaster :blink:
A couple of thoughts/queries though.
1. Do we want a single game admin group or one for each game. I.e. do we want admins from WOW seeing the private admin forums for racing or CS seeing CoD4? I only ask as it might cause a problem if say WOW officer comes to CoD4 and behaves badly on the server. If he's an officer in WOW he may be able to see the admins in CoD4 discussing his behaviour, lack of understanding of the rules etc. etc. Likewise the other game sections? Personally I'm working on a forum group for each game so having permissions for each gaming section would not be a big issue.
2. Do we want to make a destinction between badge holders and subscribers (payers)? Some people may obviously be one but not the other. Will we be having forum sections accessabel by subscribers but not non subscribers? Would having a badge offer the same priviledges as paying subs?
1. Because of the way WOW works it is best that the WOW structure remains as it is now with private sections self contained. A single game admin group will suffice as it's now the red badge that denotes the game administered and not the (defunct) title under the name.
2. We want a single section just for Supporting Members (subscribers).
Could i add another cod4 sub forum
..CoD4 dMw Ladder (public)
cheers
Yay Smilo :thumbsup2:
I'm going to crack on with the forum test this weekend. Once that's done if you're happy to have a stab at the permissions then great.
You can see the test forum -details are in the test forum sticky under server admins thread.
Thakns Greg- I was kinda worried about the permissions bit. I have found doing the forums thing a great learning curve - right up until the point I (stupidly) deleted the defunt forums rather than archiving them.
Yes Arm - no problem, I'll add it to the list.
I have a thought about a forum currently sitting in the defunct Charlie section on the Test forum.
CS Public Admins - back into the CS Gaming Section (for the Public Admin user group)
The rest of the Bravo and Charlie stuff seems a bit redundant. Maybe it should go into the archive? If some of the posts there are not for public consumption then we could lock them down as we go?
Quote from: smilodon;262694CS Public Admins - back into the CS Gaming Section (for the Public Admin user group)
Sounds good as I was planning on moving a load of posts from there into the new forum. :)
There is a public admin forum for each game in the admin section at the bottom of the forum. They could go in there or as Whitey says we could just store it in the CS gaming section for reference? Structure is Penfolds bag though so I'll leave it up to him.
Sorry, I miss read the post I quoted, I'd rather have the CS Public admin area as a sub section of the Game Admins area, not the CS area (same as per Pen's plan).
I had thought your post was to move the current CS Public admin forum into the new structure rather than creating it new. I shouldn't work and read the forum at the same time! :)
I missed his public admin set up at the bottom of the forum. Makes sense when I saw the Game admin section and public admin section.
I'm working on the Admin section of the forum tonight and so for a short while some people might not get access to everything. I'm denying all access and then opening it up forum by forum. So there you go
And I'm currently sorting the Bravo and Charlie primarys to become registered and Bravo || Charlie secondary. That way if we do delete Bravo and Charlie then nothing bad will happen.
After that will have a look at the delete group if no award script as that is all thats left to do. The award to group script is working great now.
Private sections are all done now.
- Administrators and Section Heads should see everything.
- The various Game admins should be able to see their game admin forum and their public admin forum now
- CS public admins should be able to see their forum now.
- If CoD4, L4D and dMr decide to use public admins then their public admin forums are set up ready to go (as soon as the script runs)
I'll be checking though other forums and user groups over tonight and tomorrow evening.
And when would you like the script to run?
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Blueball......................................?
Penfold.......................................?
Gandalf.......................................?
smilodon..................................... has left the building.
It has to be your call - if you think it's ready then sod it, let's do it.
What can possibly go wrong?
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Let us know when it's live and I'll allocate test accounts badges and do a sweep.
Quote from: Penfold;263451It has to be your call - if you think it's ready then sod it, let's do it.
What can possibly go wrong?
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Let us know when it's live and I'll allocate test accounts badges and do a sweep.
I can activate it whenever. Don't forget that it runs every hour unless manually run.
I'm happy to run it manually while you test your accounts but you'll need to either msn me or pm me so I know when!
Let's do it and we'll see what happens in an hour :)
Agreed, I think the troops are getting impatient so lets go for it. If it all goes belly up we can blame OldBloke for giving me the Forum Job in the first place.
Script active, and manually run to catch up with the backlog.
Usergroup numbers now look like this;
CoD4 Game Admins - 13
CoD4 Green Badge Holders - 33
CoD4 Public Admins - -
CS Game Admin - 13
CS Green Badge Holders - 56
CS Public Admin - 8
dMr Game Admin - 16
dMr Green Badge Holders - 6
dMr Public Admin - -
Green Badge Holder - 76
L4D Game Admin - 4
L4D Green Badge Holders - 14
L4D Public Admin - -
LAN Admin Discussion Group - 9
Old Boys Network - 12
Section Admin - 6
Supporting Member - 49
WOW Council Member - 11
WOW Guild Member - 20
Oh, and just so you know, it's set to run at 15 minutes past the hour.
Quote from: smilodon;263458Agreed, I think the troops are getting impatient so lets go for it. If it all goes belly up we can blame OldBloke for giving me the Forum Job in the first place.
I 'eard that ... pardon!
ok, just checking figures and one anomaly has come up. It's to do with the Subscriptions 2 Awards.
Browne has an award but he doesn't have a subscription. Now, my script should have deleted his award, the fact that it hasn't is something I need to look into, but before I leave it at that, should he have a Supporting Member (£) badge?
Quote from: Gandalf;263470ok, just checking figures and one anomaly has come up. It's to do with the Subscriptions 2 Awards.
Browne has an award but he doesn't have a subscription. Now, my script should have deleted his award, the fact that it hasn't is something I need to look into, but before I leave it at that, should he have a Supporting Member (£) badge?
Yes. He should.
OK, I can see why my script didn't delete his award. It's because he's never had a subscription so it returns 0 rows when checking for expired subscriptions.
So, the question remains, should he have that award, and if so, you realise it will be lifetime?
If this is wrong then the correct way to assign people the Supporting Member (£) award is to add a subscription to their account manually. This can be done in the admin CP without them paying anything then let my script do its 'thang'
That was my fault then (sorry).
I manually gave him his subscription following a donation. He should have supporting member status
I gave him the award not the subscripton manually. My bad.
I'm trying to think if I did that for anyone else. I know I've done a couple - such as Jamin (o000o) but hopefully by the sounds of it, they're ok.
Soz
Quote from: Penfold;263477That was my fault then (sorry).
I manually gave him his subscription following a donation. He should have supporting member status
I gave him the award not the subscripton manually. My bad.
I'm trying to think if I did that for anyone else. I know I've done a couple - such as Jamin (o000o) but hopefully by the sounds of it, they're ok.
Soz
Nope, Browne is the only one. Want me to add a subscription for him or do you want to do it?
I think you've done enough mate tbh :thumbsup2:
I'll add him via subscription manager not award manager.
Thanks again Mate, cracking job.