There's a great offer in a shop nearby for an LCD-tv, a Samsung LE32A436 for 449 Euro's and I was wondering if anyone knows something about them or has 1.
SPECIFICATIONS:
1,366x768 native resolution, 8,500:1 contrast ratio, 550cd/m brightness, 3x HDMI, 1x VGA, 1x component, 2x SCART inputs
(http://img.boxxer.eu/images/SAMSUNGLE32A436.jpg)
My friend has that and I have the older model 37", nothing bad to say about it :) And that price is really good!
Edit: That seems to be "HD-ready" only, I would go for full HD it that is a long term investment. but else a top tv.
Quote from: Lexander;258164My friend has that and I have the older model 37", nothing bad to say about it :) And that price is really good!
150 Euros off the normal price.
Thanks for the reply Lex.
I got the big brother Samsung LE40A536 in my bedroom, and that series is really good for the price..
The only difference on the one your looking at and mine, is the size and resolution, specs wise they arent that far off, and delivers a nice picture
The only thing i have noticed is that it is not full HD (1080p), so if you wanted to get the full advantage of Bluray, you wont get the full benefit with this one as it is 768P at best. however, i'm not sure what kind of price you will need to pay for a full HD TV, so not sure if that is good value or not
The one in the add does say it has 1080 24P.
The text in my first post was copied/pasted from a site.
Complete add;
Samsung LCD
-Wide color enhancer 2
-SRS Trusurround/DNIe Plus
-1080 24P RealMovie picture-enhancer
-Type LE32A436 BB LCD.
There is a little difference in HD-ready and Full HD if I'm right.
FULL HD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p)
and HD-Ready (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Ready_1080p#HD_ready_1080p)
I believe what that'll mean is that it'll do 720P (HD), and 1080i (interlaced HD), but not 1080P (Full HD). My 32" Samsung does the same, and I have to admit I leave it on 720P when using the XBox 360, because that is what the panel was designed to do and 1080i thus actually looks worse. I've not seen a 32" 1080P panel to compare it with (especially give that I believe the 360 was designed for 720P in the first place and then soft-modded to 1080P, so it probably won't show as much of a diffrence as, say, a PS3 showing a Blu-Ray movie which was designed for 1080P from the ground up) but i'm not convinced the difference will be that noticeable for the price difference on a 32" panel. 37" or up i'd go with a 1080P one though.
Of course that is all just my opinion.
Quote from: DuVeL;258225The one in the add does say it has 1080 24P.
The text in my first post was copied/pasted from a site.
Complete add;
Samsung LCD
-Wide color enhancer 2
-SRS Trusurround/DNIe Plus
-1080 24P RealMovie picture-enhancer
-Type LE32A436 BB LCD.
Just looked on Samsungs website under that model number, to me this does not have full HD and the add is misleading with 'enhancer', as you mention yourself, the resolution is 1,366x768, and on their website it states 'HD ready' which retailers don't tend to state if it's full HD.
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/detail/features.do?group=television&type=television&subtype=tftlcd&model_cd=LE32A436T1DXXU
I have a 720P 37" Dell screen which i have a DVD attached to giving 1080i via a HDMI, my parents have a Full HD 24p with bluray attached, and trust me, theres a world of difference (although yes, bluray will give a better picture over a upscaled DVD)
The rest of the spec (contrast, cd/m etc) sounds decent enough :)
Quote from: DuVeL;258225The one in the add does say it has 1080 24P.
The text in my first post was copied/pasted from a site.
Complete add;
Samsung LCD
-Wide color enhancer 2
-SRS Trusurround/DNIe Plus
-1080 24P RealMovie picture-enhancer
-Type LE32A436 BB LCD.
Well to explain some of that stuff :)
AFAIK the Wide Color enhancer 2 tech, is more widely known as dynamic contrast, which in effect, just varies the brightness of the background panel so the panel can show more tones :)
1080 24P RealMovie Picture - enhancer:
Well the TV isnt a native 1080P, only 720P, but to i guess sell better, the tv has the ability to Upscale the picture to a 1080i standard, which basicly means, that the picture gets a little bit screwed up..
Its good TV, no doubt, if you buy it, i suggest the same as Carr0t, stick with 720P on it, it looks much better..
Quit a read through.
Thanks for posting and the suggestions.
Still pondering :g:a bit but I think I'll buy it.
I don't have a PS3 or Xbox. Also haven't got BluRay yet.
Mmhhm, did some pondering and found this 1 for 542.99 Euros;
SAMSUNG LE 32A556
http://www.afterdawn.com/hardware/product_details.cfm/11557/samsung_le-32a556
This 1 seems better correct?
Technical specifications - LE32A556:
- Wide screen
- Screensize: 81 cm (32 inch)
- Dynamisch Contrast (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/Contrast/) : 15000:1
- Resolutie (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/Resolutie/) : 1920 x 1080 pixels
- Full HD (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/Full%20HD/)
- 24p (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/24p/)
- OSD (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/OSD/)
- 1 Analoge tuner
- Digitale tuner: DVB-T (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/DVB-T/)
- Picture in Picture (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/Picture%20in%20Picture/)
- PAL, SECAM
Connections:
- 3 HDMI (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/HDMI/)
- Component
- 2 Scart (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/Scart/)
- S-Video (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/S-Video/)
- USB (http://www.redcoon.nl/index.php/cmd/wiki/a/USB/)
- PC-ingang: VGA
- Headset
Thats 100e more, but if thats going to be your long term tv, I would say go for it.
But if you are thinking to buy a projector, a new tv along with some blue-ray stuff in few years, Full HD is really nice then. OR you can always stick the 32" to bedroom or as a PC display :)
Edit: Things with tv is.... you can always find a better one! I managed to go back and forth between different models for few months before I bough a one.
Quote from: Lexander;258306Thats 100e more, but if thats going to be your long term tv, I would say go for it.
But if you are thinking to buy a projector, a new tv along with some blue-ray stuff in few years, Full HD is really nice then. OR you can always stick the 32" to bedroom or as a PC display :)
I know but if it's worth the extra 100 Euro...This 1 should have full HD, that's what the shop suggest anyway.
I currently have a large TVscreen which I'm going to set up in my bedroom if I buy this.
Thats sounds like a good one, I have noticed the 'HD ready' TV's have been dropping alot in price recently, i think more and more people are becoming more wise to it
Get it wall mounted too ;)
I've always been confused by HD Ready vs Full HD.
Is full HD the ability to accept the 1080p in it's Native resolution?
Most HD sources can display both, so the picture will be scaled to the screen anyway. All accept either too. With 1080 Scaling up 720 inputs to 1080, and a 720 downscaling to a 1080.
Personally if you're only going for a 32" display I'm not sure there is that much advantage to the higher resolution. I've compared them in shops. For the extra money you're most of the way to a 37" with the higher resolution where the extra pixels noticably improve image quality.
I got a 32" because I have to move it about, but if it's staying put, go as big as you can in your budget with a brand like LG or Samsung.
Full HD is 1080P native (usually only via HDMI connection), not 1080i,
Upscaling is basically taking a lower resolution such as 768i to 1080i, which is what alot of people seems to think will bring true/full HD,
'HD ready' TV's are usually component and at a lower resolution of 768P, and never 1080P.
I believe the following is true, but correct me if im wrong:
768i = basic resolution
1080i = upscaled resolution
768p = HD (usually component but can be HDMI)
1080p = Full HD (Only HDMI)
(HDMI transfers both High def visual and audio content)
I have the Samsung LE-40a552.And its a very nice tv!
Duvel i would buy a full hd tv if i where you.
Type (resolutie) Lcd
Full HD Beelddiagonaal 40 inch (102 cm) Schermresolutie 1920 x 1080 pixels Responstijd 5 ms Beeldverversing 60 Hz Kijkhoek 178° Beeldverbetering Movie Plus Uitgangsvermogen 2 x 10 W Geluidsverbetering SRS TruSurround XT analoge tuner(s) 1 Digitale tuner Nee AVC-HD tuner Nee Scart-aansluitingen 2 HDMI-ingangen 3 24p compatible Ja Component ingangen 0 S-Video ingangen 1 VGA aansluitingen 1
Quote from: Snokio;258344Full HD is 1080P native (usually only via HDMI connection), not 1080i,
Upscaling is basically taking a lower resolution such as 768i to 1080i, which is what alot of people seems to think will bring true/full HD,
'HD ready' TV's are usually component and at a lower resolution of 768P, and never 1080P.
I believe the following is true, but correct me if im wrong:
768i = basic resolution
1080i = upscaled resolution
768p = HD (usually component but can be HDMI)
1080p = Full HD (Only HDMI)
(HDMI transfers both High def visual and audio content)
Just to clarify something,
720i = basic resolution
1080i = upscaled resolution
720p = HD (usually component but can be HDMI)
1080p = Full HD (Only HDMI)
Id go for the second one with Full HD tbh, i think its worth the money :)
The reason the first mentioned one has resolution thats a bit off, is that non widescreen stuff like old tv channels and stuff seems a little larger i guess, not really sure why tbh, just my guess
Cheers for the replies guys.
And bro, this one is good (the 2nd one).
2nd LCD-tv has been orderd.
EDIT;
Quote from: Snokio;258344Full HD is 1080P native (usually only via HDMI connection), not 1080i,
1080p = Full HD (Only HDMI)
(HDMI transfers both High def visual and audio content)
What if you have digital TV and such?
Quote from: DuVeL;2584822nd LCD-tv has been orderd.
EDIT;
What if you have digital TV and such?
Well it depends.. If you got digital HD channels you usually either get a box with the supplier or its handled by the DVB-T tuner in the TV..
If you get a Digital box from the supplier like i did, its just connected to the TV with HDMI :)
yup, you will (for the time being anyway) only enjoy full HD if you have bluray player, digital HD (selected channels, which in the UK you have to pay extra for) PS3 (bluray again) HD DVD, and I think there is free to air digital HD channels (i.e. BBC) but need to check, but there will more available in HD format to come as its becoming more popular.
1080i is for xbox 360 in case you wanted to know.
Quote from: Snokio;258601yup, you will (for the time being anyway) only enjoy full HD if you have bluray player, digital HD (selected channels, which in the UK you have to pay extra for) PS3 (bluray again) HD DVD, and I think there is free to air digital HD channels (i.e. BBC) but need to check, but there will more available in HD format to come as its becoming more popular.
1080i is for xbox 360 in case you wanted to know.
PS3 utilizes 1080P Full HD
Looks good bro.
Will have a look soon.
Okay, TV is in and installed.
Currently I'm typing this while looking at the TV so that works allready.
A question though.
When I play a short movie, no sound coming from the TV, how can I adjust that?
Probably has something to with my headset still in the PC and all but I'd like some pointers please.
Playing a movie from PC to TV? or just simply watching it from TV?
How have you got the PC connected to the TV?
It may depend on the connection type, if you have a 'DVI to DVI' you may not have the correct DVI type connection, as there are many types of DVI, some I believe(?) only carry video signal, some both, but there should be other ways around it
Quote from: Snokio;260570Playing a movie from PC to TV? or just simply watching it from TV?
How have you got the PC connected to the TV?
It may depend on the connection type, if you have a 'DVI to DVI' you may not have the correct DVI type connection, as there are many types of DVI, some I believe(?) only carry video signal, some both, but there should be other ways around it
So far only connected through Monitorcable.
As I have a Shuttle SD37P2I have this available on it; LINK (http://eu.shuttle.com/DesktopDefault.aspx/tabid-53/140_read-13338/)
Shuttle XPC Barebone SD37P2- Intel 975X / ICH7R- Socket 775 supports Intel Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Duo Extreme, Pentium Extreme, Pentium D- FSB 1066- 4x DDR2-667 (max. 8 GB)- 2x PCIe supports ATI CrossFire™- 3x SATA 300 (raid 0,1,5,10)- 8-channel HD audio- Gigabit LANHere's a picture of the back of the Shuttle; LINK (http://www.generation-3d.com/UserImgs/imgs/Articles-/Shuttle/derriere2.jpg)
So you have PC ----> dvi/vga cable ---> TV ?
That will only move the image, you need a some sort of audio cable also.
I use a very cheap and easy "aux" cable not sure if it is the right word for it. It is like an rca cable but other end has 1 plug and other has 2. So just connect the 1 plug head to pc(like headset) and another to TV and you should be fine. But that will only move stereo sound, so if you have a home theather you need a different solution. I can info more if say what kind of system you have :)
Ahh, in that case you could connect a coaxial (I think that was a coaxial jack i saw in that pic) or optical cable from PC to the back of the TV, but you may need to purchase the cable separately.
Failing that, you might get away with using left and right channels, looking at the manual on your TV online, I think your left and right are next the the VGA connector, it also looks like you have the option of sticking a standard (single green) jack (other side of the VGA connector) - (edit- as Lex has pointed out, this is probably your best option)
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Quote from: Lexander;260575So you have PC ----> dvi/vga cable ---> TV ?
That will only move the image, you need a some sort of audio cable also.
I use a very cheap and easy "aux" cable not sure if it is the right word for it. It is like an rca cable but other end has 1 plug and other has 2. So just connect the 1 plug head to pc(like headset) and another to TV and you should be fine. But that will only move stereo sound, so if you have a home theather you need a different solution. I can info more if say what kind of system you have :)
VGA cable to the TV yes.
Have a look at the latest link for my connections on the back of my Shuttle.
I don't have a surround sound (yet).
I take it this is what your TV connections look like:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/EM/200803/20080320184313781_Pearl-Europe_iDTV-00Eng-0319.pdf
Correct m8.
These are the cables and such I currently have at home and think might be usefull;
One cable that can be enterd with black in the Gcard which ends in red black and a green.
Also I still have an Hauppage WinTV PVR2.
Also a white cable (coax) which might fit in the back of my Shuttle? In the one with the half circle and small arrow?
And one cable who can go in my sound exit upfront ending in one yello and one black.
Quote from: DuVeL;260584Correct m8.
These are the cables and such I currently have at home and think might be usefull;
One cable that can be enterd with black in the Gcard which ends in red black and a green.
Also I still have an Hauppage WinTV PVR2.
Also a white cable (coax) which might fit in the back of my Shuttle? In the one with the half circle and small arrow?
And one cable who can go in my sound exit upfront ending in one yello and one black.
Actually, looking at it again, I cant see a coax connection on you TV, and your optical is Optical out only (meaning that you can connect your TV to an amp / sound system with a Optical in)
Quote: "One cable that can be enterd with black in the Gcard which ends in red black and a green."
do you mean Red Blue and Green, if so, this is component and I believe this only carries video pictures.
Not sure what the yellow and black one is though.
You need something like this I believe:
http://www.frontx.com/pro/c216_042p2.gif
either that or one cable with one of 'those' green connectors at each end(very common cable)
There is one Coax in; ANT in.
In this lighting it seem black but it's a darkish blue, correct.
Will have a look again if my neighbour is back.
He has it working allready.
Thanks so far Snokio and Lex.
another option, if the shuttle has DVI connector, you could purchase an adapter to convert it to HDMI, thus giving you digital picture and sound:
http://www.avocent.ca/img/product_images/avocent-dvi-hdmi-adapter-lg.jpg
but you have to make sure you have the correct DVI connector as i mentioned before
(my GC supports it, and got picture and sound from my monitor this way)
Quote from: Snokio;260588another option, if the shuttle has DVI connector, you could purchase an adapter to convert it to HDMI, thus giving you digital picture and sound:
http://www.avocent.ca/img/product_images/avocent-dvi-hdmi-adapter-lg.jpg
but you have to make sure you have the correct DVI connector as i mentioned before
(my GC supports it, and got picture and sound from my monitor this way)
That might be best or just http://www.frontx.com/pro/c216_042p2.gif Like Snokio Linked before. You might also need some good speakers next to that telly :flirty:
Well, I was about to get da_Ricci's surroundset but he's still using it.
Will check into the cabelling and should have enough info now, cheers.
Yesterday evening my neighbour dropped by and it seems he can get sound through his VGA-cable.
Not sure how he did that though...
Going to a shop this afternoon to ask for tips on cabelling taking with me the things you guys suggested.
Quote from: DuVeL;260662Yesterday evening my neighbour dropped by and it seems he can get sound through his VGA-cable.
Not sure how he did that though...
Going to a shop this afternoon to ask for tips on cabelling taking with me the things you guys suggested.
He must be doing it via a DVI connection (similar to vga) or has a separate audio connection to get both sound and picture i would imagine :g:, anyway, good luck with it.
Seems he has the same connection :eyebrow:
Ahwell, bought the cable you guys suggested but didn't work.
Going to buy another cable and try that. Got that info from another neighbour who said that should work for sure.
Will post back.
Quote from: DuVeL;260752Seems he has the same connection :eyebrow:
Ahwell, bought the cable you guys suggested but didn't work.
Going to buy another cable and try that. Got that info from another neighbour who said that should work for sure.
Will post back.
So you bough a Cable like this ? (http://mksmedia.net/media/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/526f39da200319133c642770ac62b096.jpg) So the left plug goes to computer to the green hole where the sounds come from. Then the 2 plugs(red and white, on the right at the picture) go to tv, there should be audio in at the side. Atleast my tv has them there. You might also need to change the audio source from the tv, if thats not working I'm taking next flight to there and see it my self :rolleyes:
Quote from: Lexander;2607631)So you bough a Cable like this ? (http://mksmedia.net/media/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/526f39da200319133c642770ac62b096.jpg)
2)So the left plug goes to computer to the green hole where the sounds come from.
3)Then the 2 plugs(red and white, on the right at the picture) go to tv, there should be audio in at the side. Atleast my tv has them there.
4)You might also need to change the audio source from the tv, if thats not working I'm taking next flight to there and see it my self :rolleyes:
1)Yes
2)Yes
3)Yes, backside of the TV for me and I've tryed the other audioconnections aswell.
4)Have tryed that a bit. Your allways welcome, let me know which flight.
Quote from: DuVeL;2607701)Yes
2)Yes
3)Yes, backside of the TV for me and I've tryed the other audioconnections aswell.
4)Have tryed that a bit. Your allways welcome, let me know which flight.
So lets start all over again.. you have the pc connection at the back ? the vga one I bet. So you should be able to see right next to it a plug hole. So you need to use a sigle plug from pc to it for the sounds to work. As Samsung in its SMART way designed that the sounds need to come only through that hole when using the "pc" state. I fought with my own tv for some time now and after calling samsung support I'm now sure about it. And sorry for you had to buy the extra cable, but you can use it when you get decent pair or speakers as those Tv speakers are horrible :crying:
Edit: I'm trying to find a picture of the right cable but remember it has to have 1 plug at each end, plugs that go to your computer.
Edit2: This might also work, not 100% sure tho (http://www.geocities.com/exclusive_part/2rca-35mm_2.jpg)
Edit3: This (http://www.supermania.fi/verkkokauppa/images/SUPERMANIA/kaapelit/ammattikaapelit/A3/ISO.jpg) is the cable that worked for me, 3,5mm stereo plug in each head.
Quote from: Lexander;2607771)So lets start all over again.. you have the pc connection at the back ? the vga one I bet.
2)So you should be able to see right next to it a plug hole. So you need to use a sigle plug from pc to it for the sounds to work. As Samsung in its SMART way designed that the sounds need to come only through that hole when using the "pc" state.
3)I fought with my own tv for some time now and after calling samsung support I'm now sure about it. And sorry for you had to buy the extra cable, but you can use it when you get decent pair or speakers as those Tv speakers are horrible :crying:
4)Edit: I'm trying to find a picture of the right cable but remember it has to have 1 plug at each end, plugs that go to your computer.
Edit2: This might also work, not 100% sure tho (http://www.geocities.com/exclusive_part/2rca-35mm_2.jpg)
Edit3: This (http://www.supermania.fi/verkkokauppa/images/SUPERMANIA/kaapelit/ammattikaapelit/A3/ISO.jpg) is the cable that worked for me, 3,5mm stereo plug in each head.
1)Yes
2)Left of the VGA-connection; PC IN - Audio (which got suggested by my second neighbour to buy a cable for) and I reckon that is the one you mean in EDIT3;
(http://www.hosenose.com/toystore/images_small/c-audio-mm-3.5mm-6'.jpg)
3)Don't worry about the cable, I can still return it (the shop is a 2 minute walk away from my apartment). Must say that the sound on the TV is good so far. Tested it on music and it sounded good (good bass and all).
I hope you've sorted your setup aswell then.
4)See 2)
My setup is fine, using a hometheatre and amplifier that controls all the sounds :) And the tv-sounds are ok I guess but if you really want to enjoy movies and music you need at least decent speakers and amplifier.
Good that all worked out, and I was really surprised that the tv can not change the audio source, and it is only bound to the current video signal coming in.
Quote from: Lexander;260820My setup is fine, using a hometheatre and amplifier that controls all the sounds :) And the tv-sounds are ok I guess but if you really want to enjoy movies and music you need at least decent speakers and amplifier.
Good that all worked out, and I was really surprised that the tv can not change the audio source, and it is only bound to the current video signal coming in.
TV sound normal is working allright, PC on TV not yet and that's what I'm trying to sort, got a gf coming over to watch a movie at my place but without sounds it's a bit weird. :)
This afternoon I'll buy the other cable and will test it.
Quote from: DuVeL;260824This afternoon I'll buy the other cable and will test it.
With that right cable it should work and I will eat my hat if it doesn't :D
No need to eat the hat.
Although my front audioport on the PC doesn't work to well (had the same problem with my headset), I tryed something else; I'm now using my Audio-out from my headset.
So;
-Video; VGA-cable;
-Sound; Headset USBportconnection goes over in green over in Audio-In to TV.
It works. Now to arange some other stuff but I'm good to go and watch the movie with the gf. :flirty:
Have fun MacGyver :norty:
Quote from: DuVeL;260858It works. Now to arange some other stuff but I'm good to go and watch the movie with the gf. :flirty:
That's all that matters, you just need to make sure its a good movie
Quote from: Lexander;260867Have fun MacGyver :norty:
LoL, that's what me and da_Ricci allways got called by a m8 as we knew how to fix stuff with lets say stuff you wouldn't think off.
Quote from: Snokio;260879That's all that matters, you just need to make sure its a good movie
Don't laugh; Madagascar 2.
:lmfao:, bet that was your choice too heh?
nah, only joking! :flirty:
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Philips Lcd Televisie 32PFL7603D - 32 inch - :D