Here are my proposals for a one hour race in nKP
- Full mode
- Passworded
- First come, first served(if you disconnect to get round a repair waiting time you may not get back in)
- Sessions: Half hour practice(use this time to book your place on the server) 20 minute qualifying and race of approximately one hour. I'll base this on the lap record for the particular combo to be found on nKP Rank. e.g. F1600-Prato Full GP, LR 1.38:83 = 43 laps. This would be rounded up or down to make a sensible amount of laps
- I'll reboot the server at 19:30 with the above config and let it ride.
How am I doing so far?
I've thought long and hard about this bit: BLUE FLAGS.
- As blue flags are not implemented in nKP I propose the following
- Lapping drivers treat lapped drivers as someone else they must pass. They must not expect cars to jump out of the way!
- Drivers being lapped(if indeed they are aware of being lapped) can defend their place in the normal way. i.e. One blocking move, one return to racing line and THAT'S IT!
- My reasoning behind this is so: If The Moose scurries off into the distance he has a lonely race. If he has to work at and possibly be slowed down by slower cars, he could possibly be caught by his next rival.
- I feel that once this general principal has been assimilated it will promote a higher level of driving standards on Dead Men Racing.
I haven't yet decided on a day but Wednesdays are looking favourite at the moment. Other dMw games have their main night and I don't want to tread on any toes.
Dons flak jacket and waits for incoming.
ok , here goes then :narnar:
Not sure about the blue flags, i understand that its hard to police any rule but i think it should really reflect real racin.
Maybe it should be more of unforced rule that you give way to lapping cars as soon as its convenient to do so without losing too much time yourself .
Wednesdays like thursdays are no good for me personally, as its another night i'm out , but i am only one (ok 1 and a 1/2 ) lets see what everyone else says :)
Quote from: delankster;258514ok , here goes then :narnar:
Not sure about the blue flags, i understand that its hard to police any rule but i think it should really reflect real racin.
Maybe it should be more of unforced rule that you give way to lapping cars as soon as its convenient to do so without losing too much time yourself .
Wednesdays like thursdays are no good for me personally, as its another night i'm out , but i am only one (ok 1 and a 1/2 ) lets see what everyone else says :)
There are no blue flags in
netKar Pro. And in Full mode there is no position information. So, you don't know who is coming up behind you. is it someone trying to nick your place or is it someone lapping you? Very hard to know.
Firstly a big "yay" for 1 hour races :)
As for the being lapped stuff, well I'll go with whatever the rules are. As long as everyone is aware of the rules it isn't a problem. But as a car being lapped i wouldn't ever see the point of holding up the leaders anyway. that just looses you time and the chance of catching your nearest competitor.
Quote from: Doorman;258516. And in Full mode there is no position information. So, you don't know who is coming up behind you. is it someone trying to nick your place or is it someone lapping you? Very hard to know.
I don't really agree with that tbh. As long as you check the pitboard each lap you should have a pretty good idea of what's going on around you. If the guy behind you is 10 secs down and you find yourself with a car rapidly approaching you half a lap later,you can be pretty sure its not the guy for position. It's no substitute for blue flags, but you can keep a pretty good track of what's going on around you.
Anyhow, count me in! 1 hour races means a pitstop as well. Always a good thing in my book.
Yes please, I'd like to play.
This may be heresy, but why a fixed time race? Why not a 40 lap race, as opposed to 1hr=43 laps? If the object is to have a realistic approach to the evenings racing...
Quote from: The Moose;258517Firstly a big "yay" for 1 hour races :)
As for the being lapped stuff, well I'll go with whatever the rules are. As long as everyone is aware of the rules it isn't a problem. But as a car being lapped i wouldn't ever see the point of holding up the leaders anyway. that just looses you time and the chance of catching your nearest competitor.
I hear you and agree.(what the hell do you know about being lapped? :D)Except, in the heat of racing in nKP(Full mode) being
that certain of your position isn't as clear cut as in LFS or even iRacing, specially in midfield.
Quote from: The Moose;258517I don't really agree with that tbh. As long as you check the pitboard each lap you should have a pretty good idea of what's going on around you. If the guy behind you is 10 secs down and you find yourself with a car rapidly approaching you half a lap later,you can be pretty sure its not the guy for position. It's no substitute for blue flags, but you can keep a pretty good track of what's going on around you.
Anyhow, count me in! 1 hour races means a pitstop as well. Always a good thing in my book.
My mistake.:doh: I made an assumtion that I'd be addressing LFS drivers. In which case they'd be used to 'in yer face' race information. Maps, position lists, blue flag text across the screen and a whole bunch more.
The pitboard does take some getting used to but of course, like most things, once you do it's not a problem.
Quote from: Itchy;258530Yes please, I'd like to play.
This may be heresy, but why a fixed time race? Why not a 40 lap race, as opposed to 1hr=43 laps? If the object is to have a realistic approach to the evenings racing...
Good sense is frowned on round here. Now stop it this instant! :sideways:
Good thought. I was dragging along years of LFS. :D
First post amended.
one hour races :D
Approx what time are those held?
Quote from: lovretta;258553one hour races :D
Approx what time are those held?
19:30 gmt. May well try one next Wednesday
Looks very tempting :) . Really hope I can make it in this one time wise.
I don't think lapping should be a problem here. Full mode on I can't see too many racers equipped with "blocking mentality" around at the time lapping begins. And Moose makes such a noise when approaching. ;)
As long as it's not today, my gaming rig shuffled off to the great interwebs in the sky yesterday, after several years of valiant service (a minutes silence, please.......) So upgrade/rebuild now under way (silver lining).
With regard to the race, Moose says 1hr race=pitstops. Again, on the realism front refuelling doesn't take place in Formula Ford races (at least, the last time I saw one), and tyre changes don't usually play a part in race strategy, so why pitstops? Surely part of nKp racing in this manner should include car management? If you miscalculated the amount of fuel needed for full bore racing over 40 laps, then you may have to slow slightly to conserve fuel to finish, and in the same way, if your tyres are going away from you, ease up on them for a couple of laps. Granted Moose will have a huge lead by mid-distance and could stop, change tyres, refuel, have a cup of tea and a bacon sarnie, and still come out ahead of everyone else, so should perhaps be handed a awesomeness penalty to give mere mortals a glimpse of the top step.
If I'm being overly anal about this, just give me a slap, but I feel that nKp aims to be a truly serious race simulator, and that a long distance race in full mode should aim to add to the realism by being organised, where possible, to reflect racing in real life. I'm sure there will be initial difficulties as people get used to a different way of racing, but all the racers on the dMr server are mature and sensible, and from what I've seen, will work together to solve any problems that arise.
(digs foxhole, takes shelter)
How long do FF races last irl? I've no idea. I got the impression that the fuel tank doesn't hold enough to do an hour without refueling. I haven't tested it. Maybe someone has. :) We'll find out one way or another.
I was thinking next Wednesday (21st) would be good. We'll start with F1600s on....tbn
EDIT: I'm sorry for your loss (in NYPD fat detective voice. (forget his name))
Thank you for your condolences. Sat with a naked chassis at the mo (is that computer porn?)
My intention is to try FF1600 with full tanks around Prato GP to see how many laps I get out of it. The fast guys will more than likely have worse fuel consumption, but should give a rough idea.
Looking at the results of last years British Formula Ford championships, the races only last between 15 and 30 mins.
If you want to see how many laps they are capable of on a full tanks just drive 3 laps, go back to the pits, fill the tank up and it will say how many laps you should be able to do.
FF1600 at Prato GP will do approx 19 laps on a full tank.
GPC feature races were aprox 40-45 mins long last season.
Quote from: The Moose;258704Looking at the results of last years British Formula Ford championships, the races only last between 15 and 30 mins.
If you want to see how many laps they are capable of on a full tanks just drive 3 laps, go back to the pits, fill the tank up and it will say how many laps you should be able to do.
FF1600 at Prato GP will do approx 19 laps on a full tank.
GPC feature races were aprox 40-45 mins long last season.
Hey! I reckon this is going to be good. I'm getting excited already! :woot2:
Hi Guys
I was racing on NKP with some of you guys last night (and know some from LFS as Platinum Pete). I would be intrested in participating in your 1hr race and more if thats OK, you guys seem like a freindly and clean bunch.
How do I qualify?
Cheers
Pete
Quote from: Pete Franklin;258733Hi Guys
I was racing on NKP with some of you guys last night (and know some from LFS as Platinum Pete). I would be intrested in participating in your 1hr race and more if thats OK, you guys seem like a freindly and clean bunch.
How do I qualify?
Cheers
Pete
Your hair's a bit long but you'll do. :D
QuoteWell ABOUT an hour anyway. :D
We have had great success with one hour races in LFS and I'm going to see if the same level of sucess came be attained with nKP.
Here's how it'll work.(please God!) On Wednesday evening at 19.30h gmt I will start a server set up thus:
Half an hour practice, 20 minutes qualifying and sufficient laps to take an hour + or -. I'll work out how many laps using the lap records on nKP Rank.
The server will be passworded(available by signing up at //www.deadmen.co.uk/forum and on a 'first come, first served' basis. It will be Full mode and if it's as popular as I think it will be, disconnecting to avoid waiting for a repair may see you lose your place! A fair bit of interest has been shown already on our forum so it may pay to arrive early.
The first race will be next Wednesday, 21st Jan, the car will be the F1600 the track will be Aviano Full GP. 45 laps
Hope to see you there. :D
I've spammed this message on RSC, LastPlace and GPChampionships' forums. Now we wait and see :baby2:
Cool! Look forward to racing next Wednesday
Quote from: Fjalla;258787Cool! Look forward to racing next Wednesday
There's a name I don't recognise. Do we know you under a different nick? anyway, welcome to our forum. :D
I love this response from lbkyks(?) (http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3954631#post3954631)
Why Wednesday :crying:
Me at work then....
if there is room can i have a go at the hour race,:D
Quote from: spudgun55;258840if there is room can i have a go at the hour race,:D
Like I said, it's first come first served. Just like LFS 1 hour with fewer places up for grabs. So join early to avoid disappointment :)
Quote from: lovretta;258838Why Wednesday :crying:
Me at work then....
Resign. :)
Sounds like fun, Ill be up for it.
Yup, me too. :)
By the way I just downloaded some of the additional tracks. Spa looks terrific!! Maybe we could run it on the server some time..? (http://209.85.12.231/2135/53/emo/please.gif)
Quote from: Gnomie;258874Yup, me too. :)
By the way I just downloaded some of the additional tracks. Spa looks terrific!! Maybe we could run it on the server some time..? (http://209.85.12.231/2135/53/emo/please.gif)
We could, but not with an F1600! It was on the last few days with the F2000. Super!
Quote from: Doorman;258892We could, but not with an F1600!
Its actually a fantastic drive in the 1600's. And they race them there in real life :)
Hey Doorman
I'm definately still up for this- just one question....
On the DMR forum you say Prato full GP but on RSC you say Aviano Full GP which one is it?
Just wondering what i should be practicing? I hope Prato as I'm getting close to breaking into the 1:39s :woot2:
Cheers for all the effort in organising this. Much appreciated :D
Pete
p.s. stop being so hairist!!
Quote from: The Moose;258915Its actually a fantastic drive in the 1600's. And they race them there in real life :)
I stand corrected.
Quote from: Pete Franklin;258928Hey Doorman
I'm definately still up for this- just one question....
On the DMR forum you say Prato full GP but on RSC you say Aviano Full GP which one is it?
Just wondering what i should be practicing? I hope Prato as I'm getting close to breaking into the 1:39s :woot2:
Cheers for all the effort in organising this. Much appreciated :D
Pete
p.s. stop being so hairist!!
I can't find where I said Prato for the hour race. It may have been a post about which track is on the server at the moment. Anyway, it's Aviano Full GP
1:39s eh? Stop showing off. :flirty:
When you see how much hair I've got you'll understand why I'm hairist :D
QuoteI can't find where I said Prato for the hour race. It may have been a post about which track is on the server at the moment. Anyway, it's Aviano Full GP
Looking back through it doesnt say for definate but people were chatting about Prato in the first couple of posts. Never mind i'll start learning Aviano.
Quote1:39s eh? Stop showing off.
I have no shame. Cant help myself sometimes :narnar:
Ooooooo, Aviano. Like Aviano. No blimmin' good at it, but I like it. Better get some laps in pronto.....
2 qustions:
1. do i need a full license to participate ?
2. whats a good lap time round there ?
:)
Same questions, but at first sight it seems that 1) is no.
I need to find time to start the game as well :D
Indeed 'no' is correct and the lap record is 1.41:469.
Quote from: Doorman;258980the lap record is 1.41:469.
:blink:........ok then let me put it this way:
whats a good lap time for a non-alien :D
Quote from: delankster;258996:blink:........ok then let me put it this way:
whats a good lap time for a non-alien :D
Anything more than 1.41:469 .......:lmfao:Don't worry, you'll be up there.
Quote from: delankster;258996:blink:........ok then let me put it this way:
whats a good lap time for a non-alien :D
Have a look here:
http://www.wagenvoort.net/rank/track-records.php?trackid=11&carid=22
:thumbsup2: tar
Quote from: vobler;259000Have a look here:
http://www.wagenvoort.net/rank/track-records.php?trackid=11&carid=22
So if "the golden rule of 103%" applies, that means that anything below 1:45 should be good. :)
Quote from: Gnomie;259022So if "the golden rule of 103%" applies, that means that anything below 1:45 should be good. :)
Not if I'm on it ain't. :sideways: 1.49:00 is the benchmark. Oo look, I get in! :)
Don't forget, tonight's the night....helloooooo, is anybody there? :blink:
hello :byebye: ...... can't make tonight i'm affraid:sad: got a pool match
Best of luck with the race. Wish I could have been there, but real life intervened.. I'm going to be a receptionist at my dorm, selling candy and making sure there's no fires. :sideways: I don't get off duty till after midnight.
CR and Lastplace FF1600 skins
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3VDJYOBR
Quote from: The Moose;259748CR and Lastplace FF1600 skins
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3VDJYOBR
Luvly jubbly. :D
So.. how did it go? :) I'm still on receptionist duty.
its still going. i just lost connection with just 7 laps to go!!! 38 laps for nothing. i think i'm going to cry :crying:
45 laps would be something like 1hr 20mins a bit longer than expected....
Yup, something went wrong Pete, lots of people got discoed at the same time, and it said you won when you discoed, ending the race for everyone else.
We're going on the theory that the server just gets confused with such long races. I'll be reporting the issue in the bugs thread at GPC and hopefully we can get it resolved.
Real shame. It was great fun up to then.
These's teething issues are bound to happen.
40 min race next time maybe?
Sir, you're not the only one. :sideways: I was enjoying the hell out of that! We're investigating the cause. Post will be made in the beta testing forum and we'll keep you posted. Good you turned up though. :) As Tony Blair used to say, "Things can only get better"
What a shame. :( Hope it gets sorted out!
How many racers were there?
Quote from: Gnomie;259773What a shame. :( Hope it gets sorted out!
How many racers were there?
14 started and there were still 10 left at the disco. Couple of dummies spat but nothing that didn't come under the heading of racing incidents. The race was too long, my fault, wrong calculations. But I didn't expect it to be perfect first time out. Next week will be better.:getmecoat:
I'm not bitter- was good while it lasted...
qualified 3rd but made a poor start missing 3rd gear and was 5th by the first corner where i made very light contact with someone causing me to spin to the back of the field with slightly bent steering.
Still it didnt seem to hurt the lap times too much so I had a wonderful time racing through the field with lots of overtaking up to 5th place where i stayed, chipping away at the guy infront until that horrible message flashed up on my screen :doh:
lets hear everyone elses stories.
The Moose whats your real (sim) name.
Will definately make an effort to show next week as well, everyone seemed very respectful and professional.
Thanks for organising it Doorman :thumbsupsmileyanim:
Quote from: Pete Franklin;259778The Moose whats your real (sim) name.
Stuart Whitehead :)
Quote from: Pete Franklin;259778lets hear everyone elses stories.
Qualified in second. Bit slow off the start, but managed to keep within throwing distance of Troy (K. Leu) for a few laps and eventually got right on him, before making an error in the heavily cambered left at the end of the fast downhill section at the back of the track. The gap was then around 5 secs and it went up to 9 as i made more silly errors pushing too hard trying to catch him back up.
After the first pitstop i got into a rhythm and slowly started pulling the gap back down. Around lap 30 i was back within about 3 secs when Troy appeared to blow T1. As i came through it he was sideways on the track and i took the lead. The pitboard next lap showed a nine second lead. I made my second stop with 11 to go and the gap was coming down a bit lap by lap but i knew if i just kept it steady without mistakes i could win it.
Then the discos started and Pete was declared the winner :narnar:
A great feeling of anti-climax, but a thoroughly enjoyable race until it all went pear shaped.
Can wait for the next one. Hopefully the problem will be resolved, or a workaround found.
A very good evenings racing, despite the teething problems.
I'd aimed for a quiet evening, just to see how things went, but it didn't go that way... I'd spent a couple of hours practising with full tanks, just to get a feel for it, and to practice not hitting anything, as my car has an almost magical affinity for the green stuff, and shortly afterwards something solid.. As I'd managed to do 20 laps straight staying on the tarmac I thought I'd be in with a shout of finishing. Went out late in qualy, so did a cautious lap as a banker, and did my fastest lap to date :blink: Forgot to change tyres for a fresh set, and then remembered that the set had been on for 20 laps +, plus practice, plus qualy, which explained why the grip went down hill from about lap6, by the time I came in to change them they had covered 140km. Shortly after that I succumbed to the urge to chase the car in front, whereupon my car rediscovered its affection for the grass and walls :doh: This earned a crawl back to the pits and 15 mins in the sinbin. Out after losing 10 laps, just getting back into the swing of things when I was rear ended by the phantom racer, and then got the dreaded "connection lost". Despite all this, I had a great time, even the time in the pits, when I discovered you could go and stand on the pit wall and watch the cars go past! Can't wait for the next one, you'd have to tie me up to keep me away. Many thanks to Ron for organising the event.
It's beginning to look like I'll be in the stocks for a few days. :crying:Tomatoes are OK but no hiding rocks in them. :flirty: Something called SESTIME in the config. We'll see.
I had a last minute frre evening and decided to jump in...
I had not been practising but trying to squeeze FPS from my laptop, so I came into the session with an incredible amount of 10 offline laps.
I struggled to get into the server (no connection messages and 2 disconnects during quali), found out (cost a restart) that my computer did not cope with the windowed mode (horrible warping around)...
I had time for a few laps and qualified around the end of the grid with 1:50 I think :D
Race started well, got to pos 11 because some guys ahead seemed overly careful at start (a few messages stating fear and tension before the green lights as well, no guts!).
I was quicly alone (tried to catch up with 2 cars fighting ahead, but locked the rear wheels in a slow corner and lost sight of them) doing 1:50 laps approx (best around 1:47 I think... but I still don't know what set I used for the race and quali ;))
Then Doorman started expalining on vent how it was difficult to keep concentration and not pushing it, and about that time I missed a braking point, locked the fronts and understeered into a barrier.
I crawled to the pits at first, then boldly accelerated to 100km/h or so and...wrecked the car in the pit entry wall :)
The crew told me it was a 25 minutes paint job, I had done 20 minutes I think, so I wished the repair crew good luck and retired shamelessly.
Excellent FFB feel, graphics now OK, the full mode bring a new dimension to online racing and the near total lack of information gives a great boost to immersion.
Now I shut up and will consider more practice before joining an event.
Thanks for the organisation.
This Wednesday, 28th January the track will be:
LastPlaceLake.
FF1600
Server start at 19:30 GMT
1/2 hour practice
20 minutes qualifying
35 laps. That will necessitate one pitstop.
Hopefully we'll be able to finish this one. :rolleyes:
Bumpity bump. Incidentally, I've uploaded some edited advertising boards for Lastplace Lake to the Download section. Moose, I've rationalised them a bit, a lot better methinks.
This will be good! :) Now I've just got to make a pit strategy.. in fact I've also got to read the manual about how pitstops are carried out!
Ahh
This is the only track i havent tried yet- I Haven't even downloaded it yet. is it a small layout/ easy to learn?
Need to get 1/2 hour practice before practice starts to get to grips with it I guess.
(http://www.luckeh.nl/lastplace/images/lastplacelake/map.png)
Around 1.30.00 for the top drivers.
Fairly tricky little track in a 1600
http://www.lastplace-racing.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=30&func=fileinfo&id=23
Tried a few laps last night (internet off - did I remember to pay the bill?)
Well... It is tricky :)
I think I finished one lap without crashing or cutting a corner in the end - found the log, 1:49:950 :roflmao:
I may turn up tonight to play backmarker if the net is up.
Looks Tricky
Off topic- Moose- Just noticed you are based in Bristol- which part? I live in Clifton Villlage
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn88RaiKRG0) is a youtube vid of the FF1600 on Lastplacelake. Onboard footage from 3:40 onwards. :)
looking forward to tonights race,
can i ask a qestion, do people who use G25s use the shift up/down gears on the paddles or the gear stick, i have been using the gear stick, only because the cockpit shows a gear shifter which moves as per changing gear!:g:
Quote from: Pete Franklin;260659Looks Tricky
Off topic- Moose- Just noticed you are based in Bristol- which part? I live in Clifton Villlage
I'm in Redland. Probably 15 mins walk from you :)
Quote from: spudgun55;260661looking forward to tonights race,
can i ask a qestion, do people who use G25s use the shift up/down gears on the paddles or the gear stick, i have been using the gear stick, only because the cockpit shows a gear shifter which moves as per changing gear!:g:
I use the stick shifter (sequential mode). Although I think Doorz said these cars actually have an H-gate shifter in real life..?
I use the stickshifter, of course! :)
I can't make races on Wednesday evenings, as that's the night I go to the gym (http://www.easysmileys.com/img/liftweight.gif) Besides, I don't know how well that track runs on my pc :sideways:
I still haven't had a chance to properly drive online with nKP yet. I don't want to join some random server for my first time(s), and the dMr server never seems to have people on whenever I check it.
I researched the FF1600-1800s and they use Hewland 4-5 speed H shift boxes. Therefore I use the H shifter for them.
Quote from: The Moose;260665I'm in Redland. Probably 15 mins walk from you :)
What a coincidence... are you a member of any bristol based motorsports clubs?
Quote from: Pete Franklin;260670What a coincidence... are you a member of any bristol based motorsports clubs?
Nope. I've only been here a few months and I'm a no life, unsociable git that rarely leaves the house :roflmao:
Still, i could probably manage a 7 min walk to meet you halfway for a pint and some sim racing gossip one day. :lmfao:
Quote from: The Moose;260672Nope. I've only been here a few months and I'm a no life, unsociable git that rarely leaves the house :roflmao:
Still, i could probably manage a 7 min walk to meet you halfway for a pint and some sim racing gossip one day. :lmfao:
Don't go Stu! It's scary out there! There are...PEOPLE! :flasher:
Quote from: Doorman;260673Don't go Stu! It's scary out there! There are...PEOPLE! :flasher:
After living in the middle of nowhere for years that's exactly how i feel about it actually.
All i have to do is put on Ventrillo and there's loads of like minded people to talk to. Why bother going out? :laugh:
Quote from: The Moose;260672Nope. I've only been here a few months and I'm a no life, unsociable git that rarely leaves the house :roflmao:
Still, i could probably manage a 7 min walk to meet you halfway for a pint and some sim racing gossip one day. :lmfao:
My mum told me to be careful when meeting online people! you'll probably turn out to be a beautiful, man eating Seductress!!
In all seriousness though- I'd be happy to meet up for a pint sometime.
I'll be the one wearing the red carnation :D
Quote from: Pete Franklin;260687My mum told me to be careful when meeting online people! you'll probably turn out to be a beautiful, man eating Seductress!!
In all seriousness though- I'd be happy to meet up for a pint sometime.
I'll be the one wearing the red carnation :D
Wrong thread, wrong forum. You'll be wanting www.dateline.com :norty:
(http://www.dateline.com)
Quote from: Pete Franklin;260687My mum told me to be careful when meeting online people! you'll probably turn out to be a beautiful, man eating Seductress!!
In all seriousness though- I'd be happy to meet up for a pint sometime.
I'll be the one wearing the red carnation :D
No, I'm neither beautiful or (god forbid) man eating. Your perfectly safe.:D
Though if your wearing a red carnation i might just leave as I'm not sure
I'd be safe.:narnar: I've heard about you city folk and your strange ways :lmfao:
Quote from: Doorman;260688Wrong thread, wrong forum. You'll be wanting www.dateline.com :norty:
(http://www.dateline.com)
I think this would be more my cup of tea http://www.thaisilkintro.com/ :norty:
sorry, DNF, tbh it was a bit boring :sad:, maybe too long race for just 6-7 drivers on track, or maybe the track was too long, i dunno... During the race, I had more and more lags :sideways: was slower and slower, and finally I've spun :doh: no way to avoid it as it was nearly unplayable (probably memory...). Next time I'll restart my PC before racing :S I shouldn't have this kind of problem but I had to test with 1.03 in race.
However, cya and thanks for the training and race guys :byebye: !
Yup, pity about the small grid tonight as everything ran perfectly this time.
After a small mistake early on i was around 4 secs off Mickael but managed to keep the gap fairly steady until i lost a bit lapping some backmarkers.
Was surprised to see Mickael facing the wrong way as i came down the start/finish straight. Just kept it steady for the rest of the race (apart from one spin when i looked up at some chat :doh:)and brought it home for the win.
Hard work keeping the concentration for the hour, but that's what i love about long races :) After taking part in a 24hr LFS race at the weekend this wasn't so bad :D
I don't recognise the name. :g:
Anyway, shame about the thin field. Maybe people tried it offline and found it too difficult. :flirty: For my part, a good race. Nice bit of dicing with Pete Franklin, he'd pass me, fall off, I passed him, fell off. Until I ruined it all by falling off once to often. :) Went into the sand at the end of the bridge and spent a good minute digging my way out :taz: It is true that long races can be boring, but isn't that part of the challenge? Keeping your concentration going for that amount of time?
Quote from: The Moose;260735After taking part in a 24hr LFS race at the weekend this wasn't so bad :D
Didn't know you were in the MOE race! GT2 or GT1?
This was my first proper race in nKP apart from the practice sessions, and I was determined to be a little cautious. The race went pretty well, although there wasn't much close racing due to the low number of participants. Stu and Mickael disappeared in the distance pretty early, and there was nothing I could do to keep up with them. (as expected) A bit disappointing to see people disconnect so soon, but at the same time I can kind of understand it.. you have to be pretty dedicated to bother limping back to pits and wait for 20 minutes for the repairs to finish!
had a good qauli low 1.33s not bad for half hours practice:thumbsupsmileyanim:
race went well until i went off the track hit a small hump on the grass (at low speed) which made the car take off like a rocket, a few loop the loops then landed upside down end of my race:thumbsdown:, found the track a bit bland to be honest but at least i gave it a go, look forward to the next track.
small note to mention: whilst in the practice session i lost connection, then tried to rejoin but the server had disappeared from the server list, i tried a number of times like refresh and also restarted the game but still no luck, had to reboot pc in the end?.:g:
Quote from: Gnomie;260743Didn't know you were in the MOE race! GT2 or GT1?
Nahh, wasn't the MoE race, it was another one (DoP i think) at Aston GT. Interesting as there were 4 car classes on track at the same time, never a dull moment :)
Quote from: spudgun55;260750small note to mention: whilst in the practice session i lost connection, then tried to rejoin but the server had disappeared from the server list, i tried a number of times like refresh and also restarted the game but still no luck, had to reboot pc in the end?.:g:
Best thing to do if you cant see the server is get the IP and port numbers from here http://www.wagenvoort.net/rank/servers.php and add it manually.
Was good fun at the start with some interesting dices with Doorman. Unfortunately I had a bit of an overheating problem (at home) with the radiator on full next to my seat (forgot to turn it off) I would say that contributed to what proceeded to be the most inconsistent drive I have ever done!! Still I made it to the end which is the most important thing I guess.
Just a note. I have a hunch that more people will come if the track is of the real life variety. Nothing wrong with the track last night but as a fantasy track that isn’t part of the NetKar package, less people will be familiar with or have the desire to race on it..?
Just to let you guys know- I’m not around for the race next week due to work commitments.
Sorry I wasn't around for last nights race. I'd been doing a bit of practice, and was all ready to come and show you all how it's done :roflmao: when visitors arrived! :crying: Oh well. I'm really beginning to enjoy this track, challenging to learn, but very satisfying when you improve.
Still no internet at home. Luckily it works well at work for forums browsing :D
is there any thoughts to next weeks 1 hour race:g:
Quote from: spudgun55;260852is there any thoughts to next weeks 1 hour race:g:
I'm thinking Montreal.
Hands up all those who fancy an hour round Monaco....... :norty:
well i've been silently practicing offline and waiting for a free wed to arrive.
hoping to be about next wed, but if not then definately the week after:D
Quote from: Itchy;260854Hands up all those who fancy an hour round Monaco....... :norty:
Anyone that puts their hand up will have it shot off. :flirty:
Quote from: Itchy;260854Hands up all those who fancy an hour round Monaco....... :norty:
your a sick man :narnar:
Quote from: Doorman;260882Anyone that puts their hand up will have it shot off. :flirty:
:byebye:
Quote from: The Moose;260903:byebye:
Boom! Handshot!
Quote from: Doorman;260909Boom! Handshot!
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Quote from: Doorman;260909Boom! Handshot!
I still fancy my chances of completing an hour at Monaco with only one hand :P
Quote from: The Moose;261118I still fancy my chances of completing an hour at Monaco with only one hand :P
But not this week eh? We want to attract folk, not frighten 'em off. :) Let's lull them into a false sense of security then ...BAM! :norty:
Quote from: The Moose;261118I still fancy my chances of completing an hour at Monaco with only one hand :P
I think Stuart should be made to do all races with one hand tied up and one eye covered, to give the rest of us a chance :norty:
Quote from: XLR8;261126I think Stuart should be made to do all races with one hand tied up and one eye covered, to give the rest of us a chance :norty:
I'm blind in one eye anyway, so i can cover that one up with no problem :D
Asking me to cover up the good eye could place me at a rather large disadvantage though :blink:
Quote from: The Moose;261147I'm blind in one eye anyway (...) :
Hmmm, so maybe
that's the secret to being so ridiculously fast... :g:
*goes to poke eye out*
Seriously though, I'm sorry to hear that.
Quote from: obsolum;261195Seriously though, I'm sorry to hear that.
No need to be, I've never known any different and it hasn't affected any part of my life at all.
It would stop me being a pilot i believe, but as that's not on the cards anyway it's not a problem :)
Quote from: The Moose;261200No need to be, I've never known any different and it hasn't affected any part of my life at all.
It would stop me being a pilot i believe, but as that's not on the cards anyway it's not a problem :)
So which is the best side to overtake you then? :norty: A purely rhetorical question of course as I'm not likely to be in that position. :sad:
Quote from: Doorman;261215A purely rhetorical question of course as I'm not likely to be in that position. :sad:
:lmfao: you and us all m8
Quote from: Doorman;261215So which is the best side to overtake you then? :norty:
I think I would have said something like "Which side do you prefer to lap me on then?" :rolleyes:
This Wednesday, 4th February the track will be:
Gilles Villeneuve circuit Montreal.
FF1600
Server start at 19:30 GMT
1/2 hour practice
20 minutes qualifying
25 laps. That will necessitate one pit stop.
Norwegians especially welcome. :)
Quote from: Doorman;261285Norwegians especially welcome. :)
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(http://209.85.12.231/2135/53/emo/lol.gif) At the moment there's a 50/50 chance that I'll not be home on Wednesday. I'll find out for sure tomorrow.
What a week this will be.. nKP race on Wed (hopefully), LFS on Thursday (for the first time in ages I'll actually be home on Thursday! Don't want to miss this one) and iRacing of course. I better get some uni stuff done today to reduce the pile of paper on my desk!
look forward to this circuit, :yahoo:
what's the password for tonight's race server? :g:
and by the way is Montreal that heavy on the graphic side of things, i get alot of FPS drops around the track? :blink:
Quote from: .pixr;261883what's the password for tonight's race server? :g:
It's in the password section. :)
Quote from: .pixr;261883and by the way is Montreal that heavy on the graphic side of things, i get alot of FPS drops around the track? :blink:
I'll look into it.
Has your machine got a good head of steam? :g: If not, throw some more logs on the fire. :)
Well done for finding your way here. Welcome. :)
Good racing tonight.
I'll be there...need to do some setup work tho and it's annoying in full mode so see you just before quali :D
Firstly, thx for hosting Ron.
This was the first long distance Full Mode race I'd attempted in nK! I was looking forward to it. It ending up being part bad news and part good news.
There was a good and fairly busy grid, with Moose in P1 :worship: followed by me and Deetz on nearly identical times. The start was clean (as far as I know at the front) and for the first 3/4 of a lap I had a good view of a Moose's arse end :blush:
Something must have been going on behind us because from the Casino on I couldnt see anyone behind us :g: Then I had a big slide at the wall of Champs and lost a couple of seconds but on arriving at T2 for the second time I had a huge surprise when I saw the Moose apparently beached in the sandtrap :ohmy: That made me P1 on lap 2 with no-one in the mirrors :D All I had to do was keep it on the black stuff and I'd be in with a chance :g: So predictably I went into turn 9+10 too hard and clipped the bollards breaking the suspension :doh: Limping back to the pits I caused more damage and required 20 minutes of repair time, effectively game over :crying:
I did wait for repairs whilst watching others in TV mode and rejoined 10 laps down on the leaders. But on the upside whilst cruising round without any pressure I managed a PB :)
I'm gutted that I threw a good position because I'd have liked to see how I held up for the full duration and how much pressure there would be from other drivers, ie. Deetz who ended up on the top step, well done :thumbsup2:
Looking forward to the next race now (Spa I think) to see how many lessons I've learnt :g:
Actually it's thanks for hosting 'Dead Men Walking'. Credit where it's due. :D I only organised it. I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused about names, you must be Katsushika_Matsumoto. I've just watched some of the replay. You and Lee Spalding had a good battle. Very entertaining. :D
The results:
1st D Deetz
2nd R. Johnson
3rd R Attwood
4th S Sherry
5th K Matsumoto.
6th L Spalding
Well done everyone.
Great stuff. This is going to get even better. I feel it in my water. :)
My name's here - http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=259094&postcount=1 :rolleyes: :)
When I said 'hosting' I meant taking the time to organise and set it up, it's appreciated.
Quote from: XLR8;261923My name's here - http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=259094&postcount=1 :rolleyes: :)
When I said 'hosting' I meant taking the time to organise and set it up, it's appreciated.
/my bad :) Cheers Mark. :D
Just twigged the nickname. Accellerate! :doh: Arf arf.
well what can i say, i had a good quali with a late 1.57 which put me 4th on the grid:D, my start was superb grabbing third spot into the first bend, i managed then later on in the lap (final bend) to get totally out of shape and smashed into the wall:doh:, 10mins in pits for a full repair then i was off again, once the heat was back into the tyres began to push and caught up K Matsumoto which we had a great tussle.
congrats to 1, deetzs, 2, R. Johnson, 3,R Attwood
cant wait for next wensday race spa :woot2:
Quote from: spudgun55;261950cant wait for next wensday race spa :woot2:
spa :yahoo: got next wed off from pool :D
think i'd better get some practice in :yahoo:
Quote from: Doorman;261924/my bad :) Cheers Mark. :D
Just twigged the nickname. Accellerate! :doh: Arf arf.
LOL! Well done :bigidea: I do wonder how many people don't get it.
Qualified 4th and with enough time for a 3rd "risky" run, was hoping to improve to P3. On my outlap the room went pitch black and I was left holding a dead wheel...there was a powercut in my area. I rejoined with a few minutes to left in Q and would start somewhere around 11th.
Decided to take it very steady at the start and leave plenty of safety margin...this worked pretty well as I was 4th at the end of lap 1 and 2nd at the end of lap 2, without really overtaking anyone :D
Couldn't offer much of a fight to Deetz so had a quiet race, only seeing the occasional lapped car (all behaving very courteously). Only incident was a brush on the wall of champions which luckily only bent the steering a tiny bit.
It's great fun keeping these tricky cars on a tough circuit for extended periods of time, I had a blast...thanks to the organiser and all who raced, grats again to Deetz.
Nice reports. :) Keep 'em coming.
I got home too late for yesterday's race. :( I was at a political meeting which lasted longer than expected. (they have a tendency for that... :sideways:)
And to make it worse I'll miss the one next week as well. There's a big party to celebrate that I'm half way done with my studies. Should be fun! I'll join some practice sessions though, 'cause I really like Spa.
Well my car seemed slightly off in qualification, and I 'only' :narnar: managed a low 55 to place 3rd. Where I was managing 54's regularly earlier on in the week. :angry:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don’t think NetKar Pro has changeable wind, I presume it was just the pressure of the situation that was causing the cars ill handling...lol :doh:
Still I was pleased with 3rd, though Moose looked to be comfortably quicker than everyone else. :worship:
At the race start I thought I had a good clean get away, keeping pace with Moose. But Spudgun shot past me like I was standing still, with the most gentle of touches just to wake me up.
I got my head down to get some consistent laps in. Then the leaders started to fall by wayside. Moose into the bunker at turn 1 - 2 :blink:, then Mark had a big slide into the final chicane. I had to take avoiding action, cutting across the wrong side of the concrete barrier, but lived to tell the tale.
Now in P1, I noticed Richard Johnstone was behind me and checked the gap over a few laps, and noticed to my relief that I was starting to pull away, if only very slowly. I had a quick check of how much fuel per lap I was using, to make sure I filled the car enough at the pit stop to reach the end of the race. I decided to add a couple of extra litre’s of fuel at the pit stop to be safe.
After 12-13 laps the grip started to drop off quite rapidly and a number of small errors started to creep in, so I was glad of the new set of tyres fitted at the pit stop.
The run to the end was uneventful until the last couple of laps, when a spin at the middle chicane halved the gap to 2nd place, and put me behind a back marker. The re-pass on the backmarker was a heart in mouth affair when he put up more resistance than I expected, I presume he thought the pass was for position.
I was relieved as well as pleased to finish P1 on my first 1hr dMr NetKar Pro race. :yahoo:
Cheers to all in the race, and catch you next time. :cheers:
Quote from: Deetz;261973....when a spin at the middle chicane halved the gap to 2nd place, and put me behind a back marker. The re-pass on the backmarker was a heart in mouth affair when he put up more resistance than I expected, I presume he thought the pass was for position.
@Deetz sorry for the hold up the last lap :doh: the rush of racing got to me i was in the zone :flirty:...
i think i tried to make up for the fact that i had to wait 10 minutes in the pits after the first lap because i forgot to put fuel in :ranting2: :lmfao:
You can check the start and my fisrt lap :
(it's my first FRAPS video test on-line so the compression could be better)
http://www.wegame.com/watch/netKar_PRO/ (http://www.wegame.com/watch/netKar_PRO/)
Quote from: .pixr;262028@Deetz sorry for the hold up the last lap :doh: the rush of racing got to me i was in the zone :flirty:...
i think i tried to make up for the fact that i had to wait 10 minutes in the pits after the first lap because i forgot to put fuel in :ranting2: :lmfao:
You can check the start and my fisrt lap :
(it's my first FRAPS video test on-line so the compression could be better)
http://www.wegame.com/watch/netKar_PRO/ (http://www.wegame.com/watch/netKar_PRO/)
Nice video! :) That looked very nice indeed.
Good job. On the video that is. :D Now think how nice that would have looked with dMr skins! Off you go to the Download section. If you have a skin let us know where we can find it. :)
Quote from: .pixr;262028@Deetz sorry for the hold up the last lap :doh: the rush of racing got to me i was in the zone :flirty:...
i think i tried to make up for the fact that i had to wait 10 minutes in the pits after the first lap because i forgot to put fuel in :ranting2: :lmfao:
You can check the start and my fisrt lap :
(it's my first FRAPS video test on-line so the compression could be better)
http://www.wegame.com/watch/netKar_PRO/ (http://www.wegame.com/watch/netKar_PRO/)
wow that was a fast start, deetz sorry that was a lot closer than i ever imagined :whistle:
No worries .pixr thats just racing. ( I reserve the right to change my opinion at any time, including just after a collision. :eyebrow:)
It would have been eisier for me just to hang back for the last lap or two, as I still had a comfortable margin, but I didn't want to change my pace too much as that's when errors start creeping in.
Catch you all at the next one. :thumbup:
PS. Spudgun I plan to have freshly scrubbed in tyres fitted for the start of the next one. Hopefully that will stop you jumping me off the line.
Nice video .pixr the quality's not too bad for online.
I was wondering can anyone let me have a replay file of the first three laps please. Mines only set for 20mins and I wanted to see where I screwed up by hitting the chicane barriers on lap 2. Thanks.
I thought I had it, but for some reason beyond me, it starts at lap 10. Something good has come out of this though, I've at least learnt how to work the replay system. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Doorman;262166I thought I had it, but for some reason beyond me, it starts at lap 10.
I think you need to go into the Settings/Options and adjust the Replay Memory value. If you've got it set to 30mins for example then you get the last 30mins of any race, hence the reason yours starts at lap 10, 15 remaining laps at about 2mins each would equal 30mins of replay. Obviously the longer the time value the more disk space is used.
This is the reason I don't have the start of the race either. Maybe for Wednesdays race I'll adjust the value too.
just to add to next weeks excitment at SPA:racing:
We all know to well now that the tyres do go off over a period of time, which have quite a dramatic effect on the handling of the 1600 cars, now spare this for a thought, you are approaching Rouge flat out and you have felt over the last couple of laps that the tyres are starting to loose grip, what does one do:g:
keep going flat out or slow up, then there is the bus stop, the hardest breaking zone on the circuit, again being caught out here could also end a race quickly, and how about the off camber bends which also are laying in wait for us.
this race will require 110% concentration, much more than any other sim i have played,with no screen indicaters for tyre wear ect makes the immersion that much more, and also the thought of a 10 miniute repair keeps you on your toes.
Either way i think tyre wear will be a major factor that will be in the back of my mind and i am sure others to for next weeks race, wendsay can't come quick enough for me, super stuff.. :D
ps is it me or the more you push the car eg the faster you become the more ffb come through the wheel! not had that before, also you can actually feel yourself scubbing the tyres through the feedback in the wheel.
reply's of wisdom please:D
Quote from: XLR8;262192I think you need to go into the Settings/Options and adjust the Replay Memory value. If you've got it set to 30mins for example then you get the last 30mins of any race, hence the reason yours starts at lap 10, 15 remaining laps at about 2mins each would equal 30mins of replay. Obviously the longer the time value the more disk space is used.
This is the reason I don't have the start of the race either. Maybe for Wednesdays race I'll adjust the value too.
Mine's set at 45 minutes, :g: Maybe I'll up it for Wednesdays.
Hi all.
This is my second post on the forum, I would like to join you on the next one hour event.
Would you give me the way pleas.
Regards, Olivier.
Just turn up Olivier. The password is on this forum somewhere. :D
And welcome to our forum.
Quote from: Olivier B;262231Hi all.
This is my second post on the forum, I would like to join you on the next one hour event.
Would you give me the way pleas.
Regards, Olivier.
Here it is (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=32255&postcount=1) :)
Quote from: Gnomie;262247Here it is (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=32255&postcount=1) :)
Gnomie, you're too soft. :)
This Wednesday,11th February the track will be:
Spa Francorchamps.
FF1600
Server start at 19:30 GMT
1/2 hour practice
20 minutes qualifying
25 laps. That will necessitate one pit stop.
FULL MODE
Don't take liberties with Eau Sh*t, even in these little motors!
See you there :)
Quote from: Doorman;262276Gnomie, you're too soft. :)
:) , thank Gnomie :thumbup:
wow what a circuit :yahoo:
Had a few laps last night ,
could be a steep learning curve to be ready for wed, but what fun :)
Found it a very technical track
But what a buzz taking aue rouge flat :D
Hopefully see ya on track in the wk :)
Quote from: delankster;262294But what a buzz taking aue rouge flat :D
Yeah it feels great when you manage it, but I wouldn't recommend it on Wednesday!
My set feels OK in general on this track, but the suspension bottoms in Eau Rouge.. anyone got a set I could try? Or maybe share some of your suspension settings?
Quote from: Gnomie;262295set feels OK in general on this track, but the suspension bottoms in Eau Rouge.. anyone got a set I could try?
At work at the mo , but will post my set when i get in tonight :)
whats a good time round this place ?
Quote from: delankster;262297At work at the mo , but will post my set when i get in tonight :)
whats a good time round this place ?
Thanks! :)
Seems like 2:43-ish is would put you in the top 20 on the ranking list! Some aliens have done 2:39:xx though.. :blink:
Our Deetz has posted a 2.39:465 which puts him second behind......The Moose! Watch yo ass Stuart, Deetzie wants that top spot. :norty:
And very very pleased was I :woot2:
Nice one Deetz, and Moose too.
Thanks for the heads up on the ratio too Deetz. When I checked offline I noticed I had it set to 2:5 not 2:6 which may be why I was struggling last night.
I've played around a bit more and settled on 2:7 which feels better for me for the downshifts at the turns. I'm still getting 214kph at the end of the straight and I've managed a 2-41-1 with this setup.
Not sure where I'm going to find another 1.5 - 2 secs from though :blink:
Ok, reverted to the 2:6 ratio tonight and got a PB, my first time in the 2-40's :yahoo:
So I guess it must be a better ratio for the track?
Might be all in the mind too. :norty:
I run 2:800. I cant downshift properly with 2:700 or lower as i proved tonight by crashing every lap :P
I'll have to learn though, otherwise i'll get creamed on the straights tomorrow
Spud, you really mustn't keep stuff like this private. Great job.:D
Quote from: Spudgunjust managed 2.42, i know i can go a bit faster, some bullet proof dude rammed me off in the last race and was really being a """"" so i had to leave in the end.
Well done Mark :D, this bodes well for some good close racing in the 1 hr race.
Changing the gear ratio, really does change the way the car reacts in general. I find that if I change the gear ratio, I pretty much have to re-learn the whole track.
I did like 2.7:1 and thought the ratio was probably better overall than the 2.6:1 I'm using, but the changes in way the car react's to the throttle etc meant I was back to the old ratio. I did manage some consistent quick laps last night, and fingers crossed I can manage the same for the 1 hour race.
I think tyres may well play a very important part in the long race tonight as the grip does drop off quite dramatically.
Good Luck to everyone. :thumbup:
Quote from: Deetz;263125Well done Mark :D, this bodes well for some good close racing in the 1 hr race.
Thanks for the vote of confidence but I think I'll just be watching you and Stuart disappear slowly into the distance like last night :sad:
As Stuart creamed me last night with a 2:8 ratio which yields a lower top end then I conclude that a quick lap has more to do with stable braking and good cornering than outright top speed. Even on a long circuit with huge straights like Spa. So I think I need to concentrate on those areas.
One other thing that may make a difference is the clutch? I don't have a clutch pedal and don't like using a button so I'm still using the auto clutch and blipping the throttle, do you reckon this is any kind of significant disadvantage??
Look forward to the race tonight but it's going to be gruelling :blink:
Quote from: XLR8;263142One other thing that may make a difference is the clutch? I don't have a clutch pedal and don't like using a button so I'm still using the auto clutch and blipping the throttle, do you reckon this is any kind of significant disadvantage??
i do have a clutch pedal and i thought the "blipping" (releasing) is the way they do it in real life... could someone please verify this... i want it to be as realistic as possible. :crying:
i'm going to try to use some of the setup settings suggested in this thread because i will like to keep up tonight :g:
btw i downloaded the skins for tonight event and hope have a good race. (and possibly make a nice replay video) :flirty:
ps. i'm racing under Katsushika Matsumoto.
Good luck tonight guys! :)
Quote from: .pixr;263170i do have a clutch pedal and i thought the "blipping" (releasing) is the way they do it in real life... could someone please verify this... i want it to be as realistic as possible. :crying:
i'm going to try to use some of the setup settings suggested in this thread because i will like to keep up tonight :g:
btw i downloaded the skins for tonight event and hope have a good race. (and possibly make a nice replay video) :flirty:
ps. i'm racing under Katsushika Matsumoto.
Clutch really only needs to be used on the start, or for making downshifts a little less prone to locking up the rear wheels. Dip clutch, move lever to neutral, blip throttle, move lever to desired gear and release clutch. Should only take about 30 seconds per change! :D
I salute you for 'Keeping it real'. Man after my own heart.
whats going on? did everyone lose connection?
Quote from: Pete Franklin;263246whats going on? did everyone lose connection?
yep same here :crying:
+1 same here !
Well, qual was a disaster. Got held up every lap and on my final attempt i came across a spinner that i couldn't avoid.
Still, long race i thought...always fun from the back.
It was all looking good, up to 7th by lap 2 and 5th by lap 3 when i hit the barrier at the top of Eau Rouge. Race over.
To make matters worse i checked the replay and there was a 6 inch gap between me and the barrier. Slightly gutted to say the least.
It was fun for the short time it lasted. Looked very clean racing from where i was sat.
I was really looking forward to this race. Now all i have is the nightmare of Falkenberg in GPC to look towards.
Just an observation. If its going to be run in full mode then cant we stop all this quitting out and rejoining in qual. Kind of defeats the purpose of full mode and is very distracting when people rejoin.
Just my 2c
yeah i understand your complaint with the reconnecting, i did it myself a couple of hundred times... :blink: :doh: because my FreeTrack was acting up.... not that that's an excuse.
nonetheless i had a great time until the pit stop, when i had the CONNECTION LOST dialogue again... i thought the server disconnected but it was my cheap ass cable acting up so.... i'm a little ****ed at my hardware. :ranting2:
On the bright side i didn't hit anybody :)
1st off not being able to select 1.6 set up was a bit of a problem for me as 1.7 was not my bag, any way quali was a bit of a nightmare, got held up on a few occasions which tend to ruin your lap times some what!!! but managed 4th in the end, the race was going well when on the start finish line a lack of concentration i clipped the wall, the steering wheel now at 45 degrees managed to soldier on, my pit stop went well with no drama, then approx 10 laps from the end, i clipped the wall at rouge which then sent the wheel to 90 degrees, finished 4th which all in all was a fare result me thinks!!:D
i cant race next week as its the wifes birthday, i am trying to get as many brownie points i can for the Lan!!:crying:
The Results!
(http://files.deadmen.co.uk/nKP/sparesults.jpg)
Quote from: The Moose;263254Just an observation. If its going to be run in full mode then cant we stop all this quitting out and rejoining in qual. Kind of defeats the purpose of full mode and is very distracting when people rejoin.
Just my 2c
I agree 100%. It would be nice to keep the chat to a bare minimum too. To me, part of the attraction of the weekly long race is the intensity.
Report. Great race with Sean over quite a few laps, talk about grinning from ear to ear! :D Then he disappeared for a while, then a lot later on he came out of the pits just behind me. We had another little battle by which time I was getting really tired so it was not without a little relief I heard a 'Aagh!' in my headphones. Eau Rouge struck again! :norty: All that remained was to bring it home which I nearly cocked up by leaving my braking too late at the Bus stop. I was desperate not to hit the concrete so I headed for the pit lane, stopped and reversed. I expect the stewards will have something to say about that. :doh:
Wait a minute, I am a steward. :norty: Schtum.
Quote from: Doorman;263278I agree 100%. It would be nice to keep the chat to a bare minimum too. To me, part of the attraction of the weekly long race is the intensity.
I know everyone gets excited when they pass the finish line but I think it would also be nice to wait until everyone is across the line before starting all the post race banter. On a circuit like Spa people could be a couple of minutes away from the leaders and again it's very distracting if you're having a battle for position and the chat box keeps popping up. Also you miss whats being said. :g:
Having said that the race was a blast, albeit a grueling one :woot2:
I nabbed pole because some of the faster guys didn't post a time for some reason? I got a good start and had a reasonable lead for a few laps before the inevitable huge slide coming out of Eau, which let 3 others past! Then I caught them all up a bit later after what looked like the end of a three way squabble over who had the line for the Bus Stop :blink: Back up at the front again I had another slide and let people through again. Then P1 and 2 pitted a lap before me and after my pit I was back behind Deetz and we had a ding dong battle between laps 13-15 swapping the lead several times until I had another huge Pouhon drift :doh: Trying to catch up I went wide at the very easy T15 Stavelot and this time I couldn't avoid the armco :crying:
All in all great fun and some good close racing and I got 8 laps further through the race than last time at Montreal. Maybe next time I'll even finish :D
Quote from: Doorman;263280I nearly cocked up by leaving my braking too late at the Bus stop. I was desperate not to hit the concrete so I headed for the pit lane, stopped and reversed. I expect the stewards will have something to say about that. :doh:
LOL, I had to do a three point turn at the Bus Stop too :lmfao:
Please don't report me!
What a complete nightmare.
A bug in game meant I could not get the gear ratio I wanted without a 15 minute wait. Eventually having tried all I could, I opted to wait the 15 minutes loosing all the practice time. Then when qualifying started I found another bug. The car would start but no throttle etc. It was like awaiting the end of a repair count down, but there was no work being carried out.
A PC reboot (a registry file recovered from a backup!) and server problems meant I finally got re-connected with a bit of qually remaining. But on my one chance of a good lap a car came out of pits and trundled slowly through Eau Rouge. I tried to go round but there was contact.
I was not in the best of moods after all these problems and a lack of any continuous running, but I tried to be positive for the race start.
Before the race start I set the fuel to 30L (max) filled the car and then set fuel to 28L for my stop. After a cautious start I made a few places in the first couple of laps then noticed my fuel situation. Only 10L of fuel remaining. :ranting2:
Two stops would now be required; I lost motivation, made a few little mistakes and a bit of time allowing Moose to close in. (A worse qualification than me!!) The prospect of a good dice re-motivated me, but then Moose vanished from my mirrors. Accident at Eau Rouge.
I had a few good battles through the race, especially with Mark, and fought hard to keep the car on the road with almost no grip at the end of my long middle stint.
Somehow I managed to finish 2nd.
Congratulations to all who finished.
Apologies for the misdemeanours. Re-connecting during qually and starting to gas bag too soon at end of race. I promise to be better next time.
Onwards and upwards.
I told him to bite down hard on his dummy! :norty: Seems to have done the trick. :D
If you think you were having problems, I was close to cutting my throat when I had to go restart the server. Nobody is going to come back! Oh the shame! I'm doomed!
God bless you all for coming back. :crying:
Quote from: Deetz;263289Apologies for the misdemeanours. Re-connecting during qually
Dont feel bad about that...lots of people did it, including me ! That's the prob. If its allowed then people will do it.
Qualy has to be made a closed session (no rejoins). That's the only way to stop it. People soon adapt when they know it's a one chance deal. :)
Sorry to hear of your gear ratio probs. What a pain.
So what is being suggested is that I set the server to not accept new clients during qualifying? :g: I'm inclined to try education first. I know that our chaps will abide by that ruling. Maybe we can spread the word that rejoining during quali is frowned on as unsporting. The main concern would be people on outlaps keeping out of the way.
It would be nice if we can strike the balance between serious and fun. :)
Now I AM going to bed!
Hi all.
It was a funny evening and intense race !
It's a reel challenge to stay on track all during this hour without faults.
I've made one at the bus stop chicane but without damage.
I think I've been lucky during this race, because lot of fastest driver's have been damaged, I think to Stuart with his incredible time lap.
I like the idea of a pitstop during race, this is a good thing to be near realistic race.
Anyway, to finish first, first you have to finish.
Sorry for trouble about chatting a the end of the race :doh:
Hope in a next version of NKPro we could enable / disable chat windows.
See you on the next event :byebye:
Well done Olivier B, no mater how it comes, a win is a win. :D
Its no good being quick if your stupid. Looking at the results my best lap was about 6 seconds quicker than yours, so I must have been very stupid. :g: (argghh fuel)
I'm hoping for better next time. :boxing:
Yes, well done Olivier :thumbsup2:
Consistency is definitely hard to beat. The last 2 races I've been able to do fast lap times but not finished either race, so 'Nil Points' :doh:
Quote from: XLR8;263377Consistency is definitely hard to beat. The last 2 races I've been able to do fast lap times but not finished either race, so 'Nil Points' :doh:
The points start next week and it could well be decisive to FINISH a race. Points will go down to 15th place providing you do at least 75% of the race. So if you crash and need to repair it is not a lost cause. :flirty: So we don't want any 'I've crashed, that's me out, Goodnight' stuff. :)
Quote from: Doorman;263394we don't want any 'I've crashed, that's me out, Goodnight' stuff. :)
:blush2::whistling2:
Quote from: The Moose;263562:blush2::whistling2:
:roflmao:
Off Topic but - Anyone know why the Avatars and Signatures have disappeared for some of us???
Whilst I'm already OT, anyone noticed the new trailer they're using to advertise nK on the official website?
That guy in P1 looks pretty handy :D
Quote from: XLR8;263651Off Topic but - Anyone know why the Avatars and Signatures have disappeared for some of us???
This will explain (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25804) :)
Quote from: Doorman;263681This will explain (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25804) :)
Thx, sorted now :)
Quote from: XLR8;263863Thx, sorted now :)
Oh top man! :D
No problem. I don't mind chipping in to sites when I'm using the forum and server facilities on a regular basis. Especially now that RSC is down too.
I've downloaded Ventrilo as well, so I'll see if I can get that setup for the next race.
So where is this weeks race taking place?
Quote from: Pete Franklin;264285So where is this weeks race taking place?
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=26247
After making the earthshattering discovery the anyone with a '65,543' type ping cocks it up for everyone else, I shall be watching everyones pings VEEERY closely. :flirty: I shall ask them first to reconnect to see if it sorts itself out. If not I'll ask them to leave...nicely of course. :) Well I can't kick them can I? :eyebrow:
Is Wednesdays race at Monaco or Laguna, can someone confirm please?
And yes Ron, the skiing was superb thx. Still gutted I missed Silverstone tho, where are the results, I couldn't see them anywhere?
Quote from: XLR8;268697Is Wednesdays race at Monaco or Laguna, can someone confirm please?
Laguna!
Quote from: XLR8;268697Is Wednesdays race at Monaco or Laguna, can someone confirm please?
And yes Ron, the skiing was superb thx. Still gutted I missed Silverstone tho, where are the results, I couldn't see them anywhere?
The results, yes er..let me see, er...I forgot to save the replay, just don't go on about it alright! :flirty:
I'll have a dig around the server logs. Moose won and Richard Johnson second and me third Craig Wilson fourth out of six. The other two, Katsushika Matsumot and (my memory fails me) had mishaps that caused them many hours in the repair shop.
P.S. Do you like what I've done to your avatar? :)
Stuart_Whitehead 20 laps 1st
Richard_Johnstone 20 laps 2nd
Ron_Attwood 19 laps 3rd
Craig_Wilson 19 laps 4th
Katsushika_Matsumoto 15 laps 5th
Jarkko_Sihvola DNF
Thx for the results, well done Stuart.
Quote from: Doorman;268733P.S. Do you like what I've done to your avatar? :)
Que? It looks just the same, I'm confused.
Quote from: XLR8;268759Thx for the results, well done Stuart.
Que? It looks just the same, I'm confused.
It used to have a white background, now it blends with the page. Wasting my time with some people! :doh::rolleyes::D
A word of warning for Wednesday evening
(http://www.finnglish.co.uk/Stuff/Lagunahole.jpg)
If you drive across the area marked you will be plonked into the pits! You have been warned.
This one got missed somehow :rolleyes:
Quote from: Doorman;268760It used to have a white background, now it blends with the page. Wasting my time with some people! :doh::rolleyes::D
DOH :doh: sorry, I've been away for a week!
Yes that looks much better now, thx :)
BTW are people going to be penalised for not sticking to the pit lane when coming out of the pits at Laguna?
Quote from: XLR8;268833BTW are people going to be penalised for not sticking to the pit lane when coming out of the pits at Laguna?
Only a person of low moral fibre would do such a thing! Fortunately we don't get that sort on Dead Men Racing servers. :) Besides, there's not a lot one can do about it.
Not happy.:g:
Quote from: The Moose;268966Not happy.:g:
what happened? i got disco and my suspension collapsed like at aviano. the rest seem to be running still.
Quote from: Pete Franklin;268967what happened? i got disco and my suspension collapsed like at aviano. the rest seem to be running still.
From where i was sat you just took me out before we'd even got to T1.
:crying: DCed i was in 3rd place... doing so fine...
Damn- sorry then.
You dissapeared from my screen after the start so I kept to the left- over the pit lane bit and came onto the inside line and then my suspension collapsed (without seeming to hit anything) I braked and then pulled to the left on the gravel and then i got the Connection Lost message.
Sorry if I hit you- I really couldnt see any cars.
Did you get disconnected as well or did you just quit?
More server shenanigans. Connection lost, race ending early. :ranting2:
The last straw, my back has been broken. Someone give me a heads up when the patch is out. :sad:
Oh dear.. what an absolute mess. :( Disco's all over the place, and Mark was declared the winner after ~ 15 laps or something. (He was in the lead, though, but still..)
Yeah, me too Deetz.
It's such a shame though.. this sim has great potential, but unfortunately it just has way too many fundamental flaws that ruin the whole experience. I fear that no matter how good the next patch might be, people won't give it another chance because they've had bad experiences in the past.
Quote from: Pete Franklin;268971Damn- sorry then....
.....Did you get disconnected as well or did you just quit?
No worries, now i know what happened :)
I had to quit, car was ruined. would have taken 10 mins to drive back to the pits.
I think that's it for me as well. Ron's done his best to eliminate the causes of problems from the server side, but the fact is there are fundamental issues with netkar that only Kunos can sort out. Very sad. Damn shame.
Quote from: The Moose;268978I think that's it for me as well. Ron's done his best to eliminate the causes of problems from the server side, but the fact is there are fundamental issues with netkar that only Kunos can sort out. Very sad. Damn shame.
Moose, what about GPC? Are they plagued with similar issues over there, or is everything running smoothly? I still think it's funny if it's only the dMr server that's having these problems.. :g:
Quote from: Gnomie;268977I fear that no matter how good the next patch might be, people won't give it another chance because they've had bad experiences in the past.
Yup. all those people that started playing after the release of 1.03 should have been the real kick this sim needed.
Kunos fiddled with the netcode with only a couple of days to go before release and those changes never got properly tested.
This is what i said in the beta test forum just before release....
"I've noticed more lagging cars/warping since the update Kunos made to deal with lagging cars. (one of the last RC4 updates iirc) than i have in months of previous testing.
Might just be pure coincidence of course, but it's been noticeably worse since then.
It needs looking into, I'm sure its not just a server problem as I've seen it on both Tjeerds server and DS
The net code has been looking pretty solid for a long time now, and now it doesn't seem as good.
If 1.03 is released and people get the same laggy/warping experience they got when they first bought nKPro then it could be the death of it.
I could of course be completely wrong, and its been coincidental server problems. I think its worth a look into though, Im so keen for this to do well that im a little worried about the worsening lag ive seen recently. Its just been so solid for months, and now it isnt.
EDIT i see its getting released today anyway. Good luck. I have a bad feeling about this."
I'm not one to say i told them so, but......
Quote from: Gnomie;268979Moose, what about GPC? Are they plagued with similar issues over there, or is everything running smoothly? I still think it's funny if it's only the dMr server that's having these problems.. :g:
Too many probs at GPC as well. i quit after the last round. Its a lottery.
Damn shame, I had just made the best pitstop ever (TM) by missing my box with the brakes locked, getting flustered and stalling it in reverse. :D :D
There are two separate issues I think, one is just on the DMR hour long races the sim doesn't seem to like the long races and crashes...the second is the netcode which has taken a big turn for the worse on all servers.
Kunos should have listened to you Stuart.. :doh:
I just want to take this opportunity to extend my thanks to both Stuart and Ron for trying so hard to promote this sim and make it work. You've both done an excellent job, and it's no fault of yours that it's in the sorry state it is.
Let's hope everything sorts itself out eventually.. until then... :crying:
I don't know who I have to sell my soul to, maybe W.Smoker. :sad: Things were shaping up so well tonight then bang! The mess-up in turn one and my being hit up the backside were all lag/code issues. There was absolutely no blame to be attached to anyone. That has to be clear.
I don't know what I'm going to do now. It was suggested to me to put on two 10 lappers and reverse the grid. My first reaction was that I thought that was a good idea. But tbh I'm deflated at the moment. I'll sleep on it.
Quote from: richard_johnstone;268982Damn shame, I had just made the best pitstop ever (TM) by missing my box with the brakes locked, getting flustered and stalling it in reverse. :D :D
I was in your cockpit when that happened. :D
QuoteThere are two separate issues I think, one is just on the DMR hour long races the sim doesn't seem to like the long races and crashes...the second is the netcode which has taken a big turn for the worse on all servers.
I hear what you're saying but the I can't see the logic of it. The thing goes tits up before half way! I think the leader had 15 laps to go! We can try another format but I'm concerned now that the death knell of dMr nKP has sounded. (Yeah alright, a bit melodramatic. Sorry)
Quote from: Gnomie;268983Kunos should have listened to you Stuart.. :doh:
I just want to take this opportunity to extend my thanks to both Stuart and Ron for trying so hard to promote this sim and make it work. You've both done an excellent job, and it's no fault of yours that it's in the sorry state it is.
Let's hope everything sorts itself out eventually.. until then... :crying:
Well said, seconded.
What a bummer, it was shaping up so well after really close qualis, and I hadn't hit any Armco either! :crying:
Quote from: Doorman;268985I was in your cockpit when that happened. :D
Hehe...I knew it wasn't my fault, your ghost distracted me lol.
Quote from: Doorman;268985I hear what you're saying but the I can't see the logic of it. The thing goes tits up before half way! I think the leader had 15 laps to go! We can try another format but I'm concerned now that the death knell of dMr nKP has sounded. (Yeah alright, a bit melodramatic. Sorry)
I only base that opinion (or guess) on how other servers run. GPC hasn't crashed once in 36ish races with similar numbers of drivers to DMR, and other servers run 24/7 with no obvious problems, so I picked out the unique feature of your series.
Don't blame you one bit for feeling downhearted though...I appreciate the efforts you've gone to and it's gotta sting to have races fall to bits like that through no fault of your own.
Quote from: richard_johnstone;268982Damn shame, I had just made the best pitstop ever (TM) by missing my box with the brakes locked, getting flustered and stalling it in reverse.
When i saw you in the pits just leaving a couple of seconds before me i thought you'd made a mistake :norty: you're lead was way bigger the lap before.
@gnomie You're absolutely right I just bought nKP two and a half months ago, i hate to give it up already but it's just to frustrating to continue....
@doorman i checked the replay and and it looks like you hit pete's car, maybe it was invisible like some other cars.
I'm trying to divide all my attention to just one sim... nKP was my first choice, but it has changed after tonight... luckily i have a month free subscription of another sim i still want ot try out... (what could that be :rolleyes:)
Willing to give the next update another try whenever it's released... but not this again.... :sideways:
Sorry for being so negative. :crying:
For those of you who are too frustrated with nKP and too tired of LFS.. I don't want to advertise too much, but I just thought I should inform you that private leagues are coming to "that other sim". Maybe this could get interesting in the long run..? :g:
QuoteWe are deep into development on bringing private leagues to our service in a way that will hopefully maintain the integrity of the overall service. I will focus a blog post on this topic further down the road when we are prepared to reveal more details on how this will work, but I think we are well on the way to adding an exciting new feature to our service.
I would like to understand how I could get rear ended in T1 starting last on the grid and arriving last at T1 :D
Apart from that it is a very frustrating situation. This sim has a serious potential, and makes driving in LFS single seaters feel incredibly bland. On the other hand it is so disappointing that it calls for eradication from my hard disk...
I'll wait for the next patch (I'm old enough to be patient, and spring is coming - sim racing can go back hiding for a few months) to make my final decision. No way I will send money for the current state though.
Thanks to all in here for your efforts and patience with this piece of bugs, even if you only turn in to sadistically listen to Ron's rants on ventrilo ;)
Quote from: The Moose;268980I'm not one to say i told them so, but......
Welcome back from wherever you have been.
Quote from: Mille Sabords;269022I would like to understand how I could get rear ended in T1 starting last on the grid and arriving last at T1 :D
That's how fast the Moose is :roflmao:
Quote from: vobler;269029Welcome back from wherever you have been.
? :g:
Maybe you'd care to elaborate on that....
Quote from: XLR8;268988What a bummer, it was shaping up so well after really close qualis...
Yeah 6 people where in the 1.35's
(http://www.pixelroom.nl/public/nKP_qual.jpg)
Quote from: The Moose;269036? :g:
Maybe you'd care to elaborate on that....
Its just "Yes, he is back. He can see clearly now."
Quote from: Mille Sabords;269022....This sim has a serious potential, and makes driving in LFS single seaters feel incredibly bland. On the other hand it is so disappointing that it calls for eradication from my hard disk...
I can't argue with that. :sad:
QuoteI'll wait for the next patch (I'm old enough to be patient, and spring is coming - sim racing can go back hiding for a few months) to make my final decision. No way I will send money for the current state though.
Nor that
QuoteThanks to all in here for your efforts and patience with this piece of bugs, even if you only turn in to sadistically listen to Ron's rants on ventrilo ;)
Now that I DO argue with! Me, rant? Help and assistance and the occasional expletive is all you get from me. :flirty:
I was not talking about myself, probably only one trying to learn how to make a pitstop 5 minutes before a 1 hour race :whistle:
Thanks for your help there, and also for the (useless :doh:) warnings to Deetz relative to the teleportation trap close to the last turn.
However I will stand up to my opinion: after a certain number of the aforementioned expletives (that was :taz: after these discos) am I allowed to call it rant?
Or maybe the definition of rant is a bit different *me picks up dictionnary*
to rave in violent, high-sounding, or extravagant language, without dignity of thought
OK my wrong. There was contained violence there, not so sure about the extravagancy of the language, but dignity of though was present for sure :D.
Sorry about my misuse of English language!
Quote from: Mille Sabords;269084Sorry about my misuse of English language!
You're forgiven. Now cut along. :D
grr. Cut what? along where?
*copy paste into another dictionary*
cut along
intransitive verb
Definition:
U.K. hurry off: go somewhere promptly ( dated informal ) ( usually used as a command )
Ha:lightbulb:!. You meant :byebye:!
This is like lisntening in on a conversation with Johnny 5
Quote from: Mille Sabords;269101grr. Cut what? along where?
*copy paste into another dictionary*
cut along
intransitive verb
Definition:
U.K. hurry off: go somewhere promptly ( dated informal ) ( usually used as a command )
Ha:lightbulb:!. You meant :byebye:!
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: If we carry on like this you'll be wearing that dictionary out
'Cut along' is an antiquated expression and would normally have been directed at a schoolboy by the head master.(public school that is. In my school we were told to ***k off)
I see... but now that I'm back in, you will not get rid of me with a few antique sayings :getmecoat:
Especially since the reverse grid option gives me a unique opportunity to start in pole and make a fool of myself 1 race out of 3 :crazy:
One question, completely OT for a change: How do I get to see skins in nkp?
Download them from the download section, place them in the adequate folder that I will find somehow and voilà ?
Quote from: Mille Sabords;269245How do I get to see skins in nkp?
Download them from the download section, place them in the adequate folder that I will find somehow and voilà ?
Place them in the cars 'skins' folder, in-game you can change skins in the pits using the setup. To see them use F11 to go into 'doom' mode outside the car and use the mouse and arrow keys to move round and view the car from outside. Get close to the car and press F11 again to get back in.