Oh yay GG valve..
Soon Valve will release the first dlc (download content) pack for L4D, and after reading their news post and what was written on their IRC chan, it seems the Survival pack as its being dubbed, is gonna cost the same as the original game -.-
QuoteThe first L4D DLC â€" dubbed the L4D Survival Pack -- is due for release this spring and introduces a new multiplayer game mode entitled, Survival, plus two complete campaigns for Versus Mode . A Critic's Choice Edition of the game will be heading to retail stores this spring, and will include access to all the content introduced in the L4D: Survival Pack.
1 new mode and two new survival maps -.- doesnt really justify a pricetag of the original game does it... GG valve
here is hte full news post by Valve CLICKY THISY LINKY (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2223/)
Whine over..
Gits. Not what we expected for sure :ranting2:
But isn't that just a new retail version including the updates and there'll be a Steam update to existing customers?:g:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798179
Update: Due to a miscommunication, we had updated the original piece saying that PC and Xbox 360 Survival Packs would be paid. However, Valve has since told Edge that it hasn't ruled out the possibility of the price being "$0.00." Sorry for any confusion.
In my honest oppinion, the difference in a dlc and a expansion is:
dlc is a minor content extension free for download, in the sense of a developer mod.
Expansion major content entension, bringing several new features and levels to a game.. Costing a fair amount of money..
So what is this upcoming extension.. Its not a dlc as it isnt free, and it isnt really a expansion as it just doesnt contain enough new stuff
Quote from: Sn00ks;262146Update: Due to a miscommunication, we had updated the original piece saying that PC and Xbox 360 Survival Packs would be paid. However, Valve has since told Edge that it hasn't ruled out the possibility of the price being "$0.00." Sorry for any confusion.
Interesting, ruled out the possibility that pricing being 0... same thing is saying we dont really know yet..
After getting irritated about this new last night, i decided to email valve with a dim hope of actually getting a respons, tho i actually got one..
Here is part of the message.
QuoteDear Kim
We are sorry to hear your frustration about the latest news about the L4D DLC pack, and we are aware that others feel just like you do.
Im sure the department which handles pricing, are rethinking their pricing strategy after the enourmous amount of negative respons, they are after that announcement.
I hope for your sake they decide to change the pricing to 0.
Dearest.
Michael Langston
Representative of Valve Customer Relations.
Valve not have spell checkers? Sheesh. :eyebrow:
Not just the spelling but the grammer and the incorrect words too! :D
I guess they dont, maybe Michael Langston is swedish, as hes working in the Public relations, mainly skandinavia :) hes an old pro CS player :)
OT:
Hopefully they decide
Judging by everything thats happened to the PC version of TF2 I wouldn't get too wound up yet. Let them state they'll be charging before getting worked up. There have been new game modes, maps and other goodies in that all done for free.
I think everyone needs to take a step back and breathe. If I had to guess I'd imagine the Xbox 360 users will get shafted, and PC users should be ok.
But no word on making the other campaigns available in versus? Thought they said that would be in the DLC...
This is the first dlc they have done for L4D since release they have done many many TF2 DLC's all for free since release so as people have said lets just wait and see.
:taz:
They posted this over @ Bit-Tech;
The update, headed to both Xbox 360 and PC versions of the game, will include the as yet un-detailed “Survivor†game mode, which we wouldn’t be too surprised if it turns out to be something along the lines of the very popular Horde mode in Gears of War 2 or the Zombie Survival bonus level in Call of Duty: World at War, with the survivors defending a single position against ever increasing mountains of enemies.
The new versus content, currently described as just two new campaigns, will likely be the much anticipated versus play of the original’s Dead Air and Death Toll campaigns which was left out of the retail release â€" good news for those who enjoy the glee of authorised griefing with the help of 40ft prehensile tongues and exploding fatties.
The update will also bring with it the much anticipated Left 4 Dead SDK, finally allowing the mod community to start creating its own campaigns and levels â€" something that Left 4 Dead, with its limited four campaigns, has been crying out for.
No news on release dates or pricing yet, but we thoroughly expect Valve to release the pack as a free update as it has done previously with new content and maps for Team Fortress 2.
Quote from: DuVeL;262305The update will also bring with it the much anticipated Left 4 Dead SDK, finally allowing the mod community to start creating its own campaigns and levels â€" something that Left 4 Dead, with its limited four campaigns, has been crying out for.
One starts to consider going back to mapping again. :)
Quote from: Dr Sadako;262315One starts to consider going back to mapping again. :)
i sure hope you do :D
Quote from: Dr Sadako;262315One starts to consider going back to mapping again. :)
Only the L4D maps will probably proof to be a damn sight harder to balance then the normal CSS maps. We will see :D
Quote from: Dr Sadako;262315One starts to consider going back to mapping again. :)
Looking forward to some nice gitspots for the zombies. :D
Hopefully you'll be able to arange witches and tankpositions aswell.
Last night on 1 map, our team got 2 witches and a tank, other side only had 1 witch. :doh:
Quote from: DuVeL;262325Looking forward to some nice gitspots for the zombies. :D
Hopefully you'll be able to arange witches and tankpositions aswell.
Last night on 1 map, our team got 2 witches and a tank, other side only had 1 witch. :doh:
The more players on 1 side the more tanks and witches you get to somewhat level out the difficulty, or at least so it seams.
Sometimes the director seams to be going a bit mental thou, had 3 witches, 2 tanks and 2 hordes on the final level of expert, before we even started the final fight. :sideways:
Quote from: DuVeL;262305The update will also bring with it the much anticipated Left 4 Dead SDK, finally allowing the mod community to start creating its own campaigns and levels â€" something that Left 4 Dead, with its limited four campaigns, has been crying out for.
Joy! Been waiting for the SDK for ages. :D
Quote from: Bastet;262345The more players on 1 side the more tanks and witches you get to somewhat level out the difficulty, or at least so it seams.
Sometimes the director seams to be going a bit mental thou, had 3 witches, 2 tanks and 2 hordes on the final level of expert, before we even started the final fight. :sideways:
3vs3 so was a bit weird.
Also the swapping of players is still a bit weird but then again, it's Steambased!
From CSN ...
QuoteAs expected, the new versus mode campaigns will be the versus adaptations of Dead Air and Death Toll. These two campaigns were omitted in the versus lineup at the game's launch for unknown reasons. It should be noted that these campaigns are already playable in a versus format with a small bit of tweaking, and only on the PC version.
BB - any idea on the bit in bold? We somehow managed to do this by accident the other night but I have no idea how we achieved it.
Quote from: OldBloke;262403From CSN ...
BB - any idea on the bit in bold? We somehow managed to do this by accident the other night but I have no idea how we achieved it.
Yeah that was odd wasnt it? We managed to get 7 people on the server I think so were basically playing it in versus mode :O
Wouldn't mind it happening again since it's a fun campaign :D
Quote from: OldBloke;262403From CSN ...
BB - any idea on the bit in bold? We somehow managed to do this by accident the other night but I have no idea how we achieved it.
HEre you go :)
http://left4deadforums.com/1669-deathtoll-deadair-maps-versus.html
I wonder if i was because I was trying to set it to an Infected players against Survivor Bots or vice-versa? That is about the only thing I can think of. Maybe one thing to test?
I think I'll wait for the formal release, that way we don't end up with people having wrong maps and some having maps and some not.
Quote from: BlueBall;262514I think I'll wait for the formal release, that way we don't end up with people having wrong maps and some having maps and some not.
Good idea. The L4D server code is tempramental enough as it is without any additional tinkering.
The recently announced downloadable content for Left 4 Dead will be free on both the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game. Valve has just sent out this press release that should clear up any confusion.
QuoteThe recently announced Left 4 Dead Downloadable Content (L4D DLC) will be delivered to Xbox 360 and PC gamers free of charge.
Due for release this spring, the DLC for 2008's best-selling new game property on the PC and Xbox 360, is dubbed the L4D Survival Pack and introduces a new multiplayer game mode entitled, Survival, plus two complete campaigns for Versus Mode (Death Toll, Dead Air).
Quote from: OldBloke;263277The recently announced downloadable content for Left 4 Dead will be free on both the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game. Valve has just sent out this press release that should clear up any confusion.
Awsome you just made my day a lot better Oldbloke :)
Dare I say 'Hurrah' and 'Zipppadeedoodah'? :yahoo:
like I said nothing to worry about. :showoff:
Some good stuff re survival mode. (http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/959/959549p1.html)
Quote from: OldBloke;267066Some good stuff re survival mode. (http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/959/959549p1.html)
Sounds like it could be very good indeed.
Couple of videos are also available here:
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/875936/left-4-dead/videos/l4d_gmp_dlc_airport_survivormode.html
These videos are interesting as they show how lfd displays on the xbox 360. Its a shame we can't have the same backwards compatibility with the 360 controller as with the xbox basically that the screen shows the same as you can see in the video on a pc if you enable the gamepad controller. This would help when using the controller as currently its simply a guessing game as the screen stays the same. Other games detect the 360 controller and adapt the menus to look as though you were using a 360.
Maybe in the dlc this will move to the pc too?
Any news on a release date yet?
New lighthouse map video walkthrough with none other than Chet Faliszek from valve
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dead/preview/left-4-dead-survival-pack-hands-on/a-2009030594445612035/g-20061120155139282079
Quote from: GhostMjr;267086New lighthouse map video walkthrough with none other than Chet Faliszek from valve
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dead/preview/left-4-dead-survival-pack-hands-on/a-2009030594445612035/g-20061120155139282079
Ehrm, who? Can't say I know him...
Quote from: DuVeL;267087Ehrm, who? Can't say I know him...
He's the writer of most of the valve games :flirty:
Quote from: GhostMjr;267088He's the writer of most of the valve games :flirty:
He's the guy that emailed me back on the other topic :narnar:
Quote from: OldBloke;267066Some good stuff re survival mode. (http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/959/959549p1.html)
Woww indeed great news..and remember it's free...this one:yahoo:
QuoteBoth Xbox 360 and PC owners of Left 4 Dead should expect to see the major downloadable content arrive on April 21.
Not long now :yahoo:
In time for the LAN, maybe a Survival challenge on the new LightHouse level? Which team can last the longest?
I've just watched the survival mode videos, off to me bed, heart pumping at a rate never imagined by our maker, hands shaking, get a drink quick:getmecoat::getmecoat::getmecoat: (Its all right for you guys with young bods, I just can't take it anymore.)
Quote from: OldBloke;270288Not long now :yahoo:
Not soon enough for me though. I'm starting my Easter holidays tomorrow. I come back to uni in time for April 22nd. Bummer. I guess this means I might actually do some work on my dissertation though.
DLC still on course for the 21st so *will* be in time for the LAN :yahoo:
Good stuff here. (http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2417)
Oh! OH!
We're going to need some more L4D servers :D
We'll try and go for it at the LAN
Can as many people as possible please have it downloaded for next Friday :):):):)
Thanks
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/694858/Left-4-Dead-Survival-ModeDLC-Preview.html
Quote from: OldBloke;273171http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/694858/Left-4-Dead-Survival-ModeDLC-Preview.html
Nice find Oldie:D
Hmm, looks like the G4 team need to work on their teamplay.
All I can say is I'm glad I'm a PC gamer not a console player. The control of some of them seemed a bit roboty. A keyboard and mouse add-on for the console would fix that. Actually has anyone tried L4D with a mouse on a 360. I hope they left support in. My housemate plays on a 360 with the bots because he doesn't have XBox Live Gold (or whatever you need). I might ask him to check.
I'm looking forward to this patch now!! (But we still need more campaigns)
All i can say is..
IM SO EXCITED :woot2:
no doubt about it jonathan cudnt of survived that , cant wait to see how we all do
This out already:g:
not as of yet 19:29!
I'd expect it to come out between 10pm and midnight. (evening time in the Valve timezone)
Update has arrived!
Quote from: Hush;273411Update has arrived!
Already downloaded and ready..
Looks like there are problems (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=845796&highlight=tier0_s.dll+l4d+threadshellexecute) with Windows based dedicated servers, I have this error on a couple I have for play testing as home.
Lets cross our fingers and hope they fix it before tomorrow night.
Try running the update again. That seems to fix the problem!
Quote from: Sn00ks;273446Try running the update again. That seems to fix the problem!
No, what you mean is that Valve have released another mini update overnight to fix the faulty first update.
I was being economical with my typing. need to save my fingers in readiness for the weekend's shenanigans!
Stuck... at... work! Noooo!
I can't wait to have a crack at Survivor Mode when I get home tonight :)
Quote from: Tutonic;273490Stuck... at... work! Noooo!
I can't wait to have a crack at Survivor Mode when I get home tonight :)
Definately one to play with humes rather than bots. They are just too stupid. Also good-voice comms and tight team-work required to survive, no dashing off to get stuff on your own. That is a recipe for disaster and team death as they try to rescue you.
I think start off in one section for a couple of rushes, clearing it out of goodies, and then moving on to the next one for a couple of rushes etc. Systematic use of resources.
Tanks come early and often so keep some pipe-bombs handy to keep the normal infected out of the way while you deal with the Tank.
So what server will be in operation for the survival mode?
Survival mode is only a 4-player game.
I am not 100% sure but I suspect it will be the co-op server. The appropriate maps could be loaded as and when required.
The official decision will follow shortly
I love finishing school early on wednesdays! downloading update now :)
Survival mode is completely awesome.
We managed to pick up a couple of gold medals on the co-op server tonight, no mean feat!
Tutonic = Tentsalesman?
Gold medals are so hard to get! but we got 4 i think :)
We were rocking the gold!
Awesome fun!
I'm a little dissapointed in the new maps, I forget the name of it but you start in the church - when you get down into the streets you'd think with all those buildings around it'd be ideal for hunters, but half the buildings are missing - they've not bothered with the roofs so you can't really use the buildings at all, a bit shoddy I think valve.
I should probably also mention that the L4D server felt ultra-laggy last night.
Is this a known issue, or has the survivor pack upped the demand a bit?
Quote from: Tutonic;273630I should probably also mention that the L4D server felt ultra-laggy last night.
Is this a known issue, or has the survivor pack upped the demand a bit?
That was probably when you were injured? For the L4D servers maybe we should be -=[dML]=- (Dead Men Limping)?
Seriously, played a few maps last night, didn't have any lag.
OldBloke had some lagproblems.
Maybe provider related?
There was a few pretty laggy moments in there, but most the time it was fine.
Quote from: Browne;273638That was probably when you were injured? For the L4D servers maybe we should be -=[dML]=- (Dead Men Limping)?
Seriously, played a few maps last night, didn't have any lag.
You had a ping of 5 the rest of us were on 305 and were moaning.
And yes Jewelz we did get a fair number of Golds and silvers. I think we made a pretty good team, with some original tactics (some plain crazy), and some good team work. There was no hogging the health packs or nades when we were on our good runs.
P.S: I don't think stacking all the petrol near us ready to throw down when there's a hoarde was one of our best ones.
'Balcony Inferno' will go down as probably our least successful tactic :roflmao:
New update out for client and server.
Quote from: Liberator;273728New update out for client and server.
My client updated and I suspect I'm not the only one. I'm updating 2 of the four LAN L4D servers so let's hope we have a working internet at the LAN :doh:
Anyone having problems with the shortcut start ? Worked yesterday but now it has suddenly stopped.
Quote from: Lexander;273787Anyone having problems with the shortcut start ? Worked yesterday but now it has suddenly stopped.
Just tested my shortcut to Meatlocker. Worked fine for me.