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Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 16, 2009, 08:30:20 PM
Hello Guys
 
I just put some new memory in my pc.
But it still shows me that i still have 512 MB.
It must be atleast 1024 MB what did i wrong?
Can you guys have any clue ?
 
Da Ricci
Title: New memory
Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2009, 08:37:11 PM
try going into the bios - sometimes the simple act of accessing the bios allows the memory configuration to be updated or you may have to press F1
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 16, 2009, 08:56:05 PM
I did go in to bios and i did what you told me to do.
But still there is no more then 512MB.
Very weird if you ask me?
What can i do more.
Title: New memory
Post by: DarkAngel on February 17, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
What have you got installed memory wise?
 
Do you know if your motherboard will support the upgrade?
 
Do yo know the make and model of the motherboard?
 
Is the memory clicked into place?
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 17, 2009, 06:26:33 PM
Quote from: DarkAngel;264381What have you got installed memory wise?
 
Do you know if your motherboard will support the upgrade?
 
Do yo know the make and model of the motherboard?
 
Is the memory clicked into place?

 
The memory is from www.ocztechnology.com (http://www.ocztechnology.com)
I dont no if the motherboard support the upgrade?
Can you tell me what Motherboard i have i'm that good whith all this.
 
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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/10/2008, 19:20:46
       Machine name: cc719113-a
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111)
           Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
       System Model: Uknown
               BIOS: Version 1.00
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~1.9GHz
             Memory: 512MB RAM
          Page File: 350MB used, 513MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
Title: New memory
Post by: KKND on February 17, 2009, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: da_Ricci;264446The memory is from www.ocztechnology.com (http://www.ocztechnology.com)
I dont no if the motherboard support the upgrade?
Can you tell me what Motherboard i have i'm that good whith all this.
 
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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/10/2008, 19:20:46
       Machine name: cc719113-a
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111)
           Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
       System Model: Uknown
               BIOS: Version 1.00
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~1.9GHz
             Memory: 512MB RAM
          Page File: 350MB used, 513MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

Can you tell what motherboard you have?
Do you have the book for your motherboard

what kind off mem did you buy?
DDR2 ore DDR3.

Some info on this will help a bit..
Title: New memory
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2009, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: KKND;264447Can you tell what motherboard you have?
Do you have the book for your motherboard

what kind off mem did you buy?
DDR2 ore DDR3.

Some info on this will help a bit..
Its an XP2600+ CPU so I guess he'll be on DDR2 - IIRC DDR3 will not physically fit in a DDR2 slot.
Title: New memory
Post by: KKND on February 17, 2009, 07:05:45 PM
Quote from: BlueBall;264449Its an XP2600+ CPU so I guess he'll be on DDR2 - IIRC DDR3 will not physically fit in a DDR2 slot.

True BB.
Maybe he bought DDR3 instead off DDR2.
So ricci go search for some info bout your motherboard.

You can also dl cpu-z with this you can check your mem,and post some screen shots.
Title: New memory
Post by: Carr0t on February 17, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: BlueBall;264449Its an XP2600+ CPU so I guess he'll be on DDR2 - IIRC DDR3 will not physically fit in a DDR2 slot.

The Athlon XPs only ever ran DDR1, which nobody ever really stocks these days. Even my (when I bought it) top end mobo for an Athlon XP 4000+ only ever took DDR1. So chances are if he's bought memory from a normal retail outlet it'll be DDR2, which is why it won't be working. I'm guessing DDR1 and DDR2 share a slot layout?
Title: New memory
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2009, 09:02:02 PM
Quote from: Carr0t;264469I'm guessing DDR1 and DDR2 share a slot layout?

Nope, different form factor:

The notch on DDR2 DIMMs is in a different position to DDR DIMMs, and the pin density is slightly higher than DDR DIMMs. DDR2 is a 240-pin module, DDR is a 184-pin module.
Title: New memory
Post by: Carr0t on February 17, 2009, 09:11:50 PM
Hmm. Not sure how he'd have managed to installed the wrong type then. Maybe it is the right kind after all.
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 17, 2009, 09:13:54 PM
I found something on the motherboard:
Chaintech 7kjd socketa atx ddr mainboard
According to Duvel the memory is normal DDR
If you want to see my dxdiag just pm me and i will send it to jou by email.
Glad yo guys can help me because Duvel is on a holiday.
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 17, 2009, 09:39:40 PM
Sometimes, older motherboards have issues reading two or more modules if they are of larger size (which the modules are if you compare to the day the mobo is from) or even just 1 module if its a large module.

what modules do you have installed now?
two 512mb?

One thing you could try is go to the motherboard manufatures site and have a look, and maybe update your bios.
If you need help with this ill be happy to assist you, email address you can find under my contact info.
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 17, 2009, 10:15:59 PM
Quote from: kregoron;264496Sometimes, older motherboards have issues reading two or more modules if they are of larger size (which the modules are if you compare to the day the mobo is from) or even just 1 module if its a large module.
 
what modules do you have installed now?
two 512mb?
 
One thing you could try is go to the motherboard manufatures site and have a look, and maybe update your bios.
If you need help with this ill be happy to assist you, email address you can find under my contact info.

 
 
There are 3 Memory sticks in there right now there's no place for 1 more.
What would that be total??
Do you have a free site to upgrade te bios so i can try that.
Thanks for the help guys.
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 18, 2009, 07:36:19 AM
Well, you say you got 3 modules in it now?

Then the motherboard probably aint the Chaintech 7KJD, as that only has two sockets as shown on the picture below.

i sent my mail address in a pm, could you send me the dxdiag?

 (http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/outletpc_2041_71730889)(http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/outletpc_2041_71730889)
Title: New memory
Post by: Lexander on February 18, 2009, 07:49:38 AM
If there are 3 modules, there has to be 1 x 512 and 2 x 256 right ?
At least my old mobo had problems with different size of modules, I had to run it in 2 x 512 to get 1024 in total. I really can't explain it, but maybe this is a same kind of situation.
Title: New memory
Post by: Jabbs on February 18, 2009, 06:52:26 PM
I find Everest is a very useful program to tell you about what kind of hardware you have in your pc.  You dont have to install it, just run the everest.exe application file from CD, hard disk, flash drive or whatever.

http://www.lavalys.com/

Simply run the program and look down the left hand side for Motherboard and it will tell you exactly what you have.  You can even copy and past information from it into (for instance) a post on here.

EDIT: The downloaded version I have has to be installed it seems - gonna test to see whethere it runs on another pc without installing now
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 18, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
I did found something with Jabbs program:
 
Moederbordnaam ASRock K7S8XE v1
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 18, 2009, 09:18:26 PM
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=K7S8XE&s=

this would be the board then.. looks like it does have some module limitations, ill be going through the board data, tonight and your dxdiag.. and just browse some forums, ill get back to you as soon as i find a solution. hopufully
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 18, 2009, 09:26:20 PM
question: does the memory have chips on both sides or just one.. certain older boards had issues ready memory moduls with chips on both sides, after a bit of forum browsing, the ASROCK K7S8XE v1 seems to be one of em..
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 18, 2009, 09:45:11 PM
Quote from: kregoron;264734question: does the memory have chips on both sides or just one.. certain older boards had issues ready memory moduls with chips on both sides, after a bit of forum browsing, the ASROCK K7S8XE v1 seems to be one of em..

 
Yes the chips are on both sides. Can i just upgrade the motherboard?
Ore do i have to waith.
Do you have a site where i can download it for free.
Thanks for the help :D
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 18, 2009, 10:05:20 PM
well i can find a site with the BIOS for the K7S8XE, but apperently there is about 7 different revisions of the mother board, so gotta be sure im finding the right one for you :) flashing with the wrong bios can brick your motherboard
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 19, 2009, 09:26:52 AM
Quote from: da_Ricci;264736Yes the chips are on both sides. Can i just upgrade the motherboard?
Ore do i have to waith.
Do you have a site where i can download it for free.
Thanks for the help :D

Does all the memory modules installed have chips on both sides btw?
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 19, 2009, 05:03:34 PM
yes the memory modules have chips on both sides.
But the new ones are covered with something.
This is on the chips: oc2 pc 3500 256 meg ddr dual ch el ddr
Title: New memory
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2009, 05:11:54 PM
Those chips are 256Mb chips. That means if you fit two then you have 512Mb of RAM. How many chips to you have fitted to your motherboard? If two then you DO only have 512Mb ram. You would need to buy 2 x 512Mb chips to get 1Gb of RAM
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on February 22, 2009, 07:08:58 PM
I'll be looking in to this.
I gave him some RAM I bought at the LAN and should have some DDR2 RAM still laying around from my last upgrade from my Shuttle.
 
I guess he really wants to play L4D hehe...
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 22, 2009, 07:48:02 PM
Yes i do want to play L4D.
So please bring me the new memory.
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 23, 2009, 10:18:15 PM
Quote from: BlueBall;264848Those chips are 256Mb chips. That means if you fit two then you have 512Mb of RAM. How many chips to you have fitted to your motherboard? If two then you DO only have 512Mb ram. You would need to buy 2 x 512Mb chips to get 1Gb of RAM

 
I do have 2 chips of 512Mb but they dont fit in.
They are just a little bit too big. Is that possible ?
Now i have 768Mb on 3 chips.
And i can play L4D but grapics are not that good.
Do you have some idea's.
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on February 25, 2009, 08:19:32 AM
It seems his motherboard uses standard DDR memory and the 2 I gave him were DDR2 so that's why they don't fit.
I still had some old DDR laying around so now he has 3x 256MB.
 
Got to say, his comp is allready several years old now. L4D does work now but not at it's best.
My suggestion would be to save the computercase, get a new motherboard, graphix card and memory (and check if the powersupply can handle it). Seems loads of these are getting cheaper due to the recession.
And also for him to get more diskspace.
 
Might be an idea that if he wants to get some new parts to post how much he's willing to spend.
 
So bro, as your comp is allready more then 5 years old, do you want to get a new one or upgrade this setup?
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on February 25, 2009, 07:07:52 PM
I think I would like an upgrade.
So what can i buy for almost â,¬300 euro's
Title: New memory
Post by: Lexander on February 25, 2009, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: da_Ricci;265664I think I would like an upgrade.
So what can i buy for almost â,¬300 euro's

Put 500 more and you can get a decent computer. If you have so old computer you need to update at least mobo, that will also mean new memory, gfx card and processor. Those changed you probably need a new psu also. Would not hurt to get a new Hard Drive also. Just my thoughts :)
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 25, 2009, 07:35:04 PM
im not to much into the pricings in uk but to ensure you actually get something for your money id take something lower then this.. it offers lots of power for the money.. gave my little sister one like it not so long ago.

550w Corsair VX Series PSU, ATX,                               - £69.63    
500 GB Western Digital WD5000AACS Caviar NCQ, sata2   - £47.14    
512MB Asus HD 4850, PCI-E 2.0 (x16),                          - £122.92    
Intel Core2 Duo E7400, Wolfdale Core, S775, 2.8GHz,        - £100.38    
Asus P5QL, iP43, S 775, PCI-E 2.0 (x16)                         - £74.49    
4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066)  - £61.93

total cost                                                                  Â£487.98

But if you really dont wanna pay more then £300, i can try throwing something together for you
Title: New memory
Post by: KKND on February 25, 2009, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: kregoron;265671im not to much into the pricings in uk but to ensure you actually get something for your money id take something lower then this.. it offers lots of power for the money.. gave my little sister one like it not so long ago.

550w Corsair VX Series PSU, ATX,                               - £69.63    
500 GB Western Digital WD5000AACS Caviar NCQ, sata2   - £47.14    
512MB Asus HD 4850, PCI-E 2.0 (x16),                          - £122.92    
Intel Core2 Duo E7400, Wolfdale Core, S775, 2.8GHz,        - £100.38    
Asus P5QL, iP43, S 775, PCI-E 2.0 (x16)                         - £74.49    
4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066)  - £61.93

total cost                                                                  Â£487.98

But if you really dont wanna pay more then £300, i can try throwing something together for you

Whe have Euro's here Kreg...no Pounds...:)
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on February 25, 2009, 09:28:34 PM
Yep, da_Ricci is Dutch, same as me (he's my twinbrother) and King is also Dutch. :flirty:
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 25, 2009, 10:51:43 PM
oh right, ill just have to see if i can find NL based shop which also is in english.. i guess :P
but its just a suggestion system, specs can ofc vary, but its in that range for most bang for the buck..
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on February 26, 2009, 07:49:00 AM
Well, here's a shop nearby; http://www.salland.eu/ and another one; http://www.azerty.nl/
 
They usually have good prices and are closeby for us...
Title: New memory
Post by: Lexander on February 26, 2009, 08:34:32 AM
I have something like this with different MoBo;
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/Lexander-wow/Computer3.jpg)

And was damn funny to use that page, trying to look at the pictures and guess what is says :lmfao:
And Kreg can now fix my part table.
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on February 26, 2009, 08:50:58 AM
Might have to check if DA still has his graphics card for sale.
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 26, 2009, 09:14:41 AM
Adata DDR2-1066 4 GB, PC8500, 1066 MHz â,¬63
Intel C2D E7200                                     â,¬114
Asus P5K SE                                          â,¬70
Gainward Radeon 4850 HD                        â,¬134
WD caviar blue 500GB                              â,¬58
Corsair VX550 550W Power supply              â,¬79
 
total                                                     â,¬518
 
setup is subject to change, when i get a better look, navigating a dutch site isnt something i do every day :)
 
the prices are gathered at http://www.salland.eu/
ill be going through the site a little more and gather a â,¬300 rig.. but i strongly suggest not going to much below 500â,¬, as the performance / cost drops rapidly.
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on February 26, 2009, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: Lexander;265750And Kreg can now fix my part table.

fix your what? o.O your partition table or???
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on March 02, 2009, 05:09:36 PM
I've been browsing aswell, it seems that my bro is really strict about the budget.
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on March 02, 2009, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: DuVeL;266456I've been browsing aswell, it seems that my bro is really strict about the budget.

So â,¬300 is the limit.. hmm ill see what i can find
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on March 02, 2009, 05:18:26 PM
Cheers m8.
I've never been very good with setups, only good in setting them up and maintaining...
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on March 02, 2009, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: kregoron;266460So â,¬300 is the limit.. hmm ill see what i can find

 
Between â,¬300-500 is realy the limit.
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on March 02, 2009, 07:55:38 PM
i still say my previous suggestion is probably in the range where you get best performance for the money, but ill try to make a cheaper one.

You could try and contact me on steam / msn
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on March 03, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
Heres a few more setups.. One is a little more cheap then the first, second one is a mere €46 over the €300.. but to go lower then the one ive build, really impacts performance badly, and i wouldnt even recommend the €346 setup for anyone.

Intel E5400 €87
Asus P5KPL SE €58
Kingston KHX8500AD2K2 4GB  €50
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 €129
Corsair VX550 €79
Hitachi Deskstar 500Gb 16Mb sata €57

Total €460


Antec NeoHE Power 500w €64
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2220 €65
Asus P5B-VM SE €54
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 320Gb €46
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4Gb €37
MSI GeForce 9600 GSO OC €80

Total €346


Specs might need to be changed a tiny bit. havent really read on setup ones mobo and if its useable in the setup, but will do later.
Title: New memory
Post by: da_Ricci on March 03, 2009, 06:58:49 PM
It seems to be good. I wiss i had some more money to spend.
Thanks for the help people.
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on March 03, 2009, 07:57:36 PM
Anytime m8 :)

Feel free to poke me anytime on steam/msn/where ever you like, if you need any help
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on March 04, 2009, 02:23:05 PM
Quote from: kregoron;266607Antec NeoHE Power 500w â,¬64
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2220 â,¬65 Boxed or tray?
Asus P5B-VM SE â,¬54
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 320Gb â,¬46
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4Gb â,¬37
MSI GeForce 9600 GSO OC â,¬80
 
Total â,¬346
 

BTW, I've read a review on a spec on Bit-Tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2009/03/03/what-hardware-should-i-buy-march-2009/2) and was wondering about that setup, what do you think kreg? Might be worth having a look for me how much it would cost in the NL?
Title: New memory
Post by: kregoron on March 04, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: DuVeL;266778BTW, I've read a review on a spec on Bit-Tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2009/03/03/what-hardware-should-i-buy-march-2009/2) and was wondering about that setup, what do you think kreg? Might be worth having a look for me how much it would cost in the NL?

The processor i posted is boxed (im 99% sure)

I can try and gather a rig like the one on Bit-tech?
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on March 04, 2009, 03:46:38 PM
NAh, was just interested on your opinion.
 
I allready found the numbers and such on the salland site, now for my bro to decide how what and when...
Title: New memory
Post by: DuVeL on April 28, 2009, 08:08:25 AM
Quote from: kregoron;266607Antec NeoHE Power 500w â,¬64
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2220 â,¬65
Asus P5B-VM SE â,¬54
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 320Gb â,¬46
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4Gb â,¬37

Orderd at the computershop.
Bought a 8800 from Delankster which will go in there.