I'll kick it off. Magnificent qualifying, didn't finish last. :norty: Some good dices with various folk, didn't hit any barriers of my own doing as far as I can remember and finished the hour. /self_satisfied_grin=1 I was very pleased to see the discipline levels haven't fallen since I've been otherwise engaged. It's a shame to lose a good position on account of typing a few obscenities. :norty::norty::norty:
The replay has been uploaded.
Frustrating disconnect for me...
Started mid grid, and got a lot of lagging cars around me at T1 (hope nobody got hurt in there) and T2 and T3 and ...pfffut all network down for 55 minutes :(
Apart from that it must have been a good race, with strategy in the way of pure racing (tyres, fuel load, damage). How did you all do?
Looking forward to LX4 races, let's hope my ISP keeps it up for 2 hours in a row next week :)
Pretty frustrating race for me, this one. I couldn't get a good lap in qualifying and after a few attempts I decided to just settle for the time I had at the time, which was good for 12th position.
However, I was spectating when the race started instead of on the track like everyone else. Funny thing is, just before the qualifying ended I was thinking "why is everyone just sitting in their box? if you're not driving then just spectate". It was only when I saw the grid appear as spectator that I realized something was wrong :doh: I quickly hit shift+J, joining at the back of the grid (19th, I believe).
I managed to pass both Doorman and Spoong in the first lap, and that Bianchi Brasil guy (or something along those lines) who spun after a few turns. Unfortunately he was on my tail again in the second lap, which made me uncomfortable as he had proven to be a liablility during the short races and quali. So I decided to just give him room and let him pass, which he did. A few corners later, though, he made some mistakes and I passed him again. Right after that he punted me in a corner entry and I hit the wall, ending up last again.
After that I spent a good part of the race being stuck behind Doorman. I was significantly faster than him through the first part of the track with the slower corners, but there aren't many overtaking possibilities there and Doorman wasn't about to let me pass easily, I could tell. On the straights, however, he pulled away from me even if I had a better corner exit and was right behind him in his draft. He hardly gave me any room, and one time when I risked to get my front wheels alongside his rears I didn't have enough room and touched him entering the corner, causing him to spin and stall his engine. Sorry about that, Ron!
I waited for him to go on his way again, and continued our little "game". All the while the rest of the pack was expanding its lead on us and I was beginning to lose hope of ever catching anyone. Some laps later I think I touched Doorz' rear wheels ever so slightly whilst exiting a corner, causing him to spin again. He said it wasn't my fault, but I'm not sure. Maybe it was a combination of me touching him and him being a tad bit hard on the throttle - I've found that that can be a tricky corner exit if you're hard on the throttle there. Anywho, as he claimed it to be his fault I decided to just pass him :)
I then set my sights on Spoong, who I caught and passed a few laps later. Next up was Oldbloke I believe, but he had built up quite a lead and I only passed him after the halfway mark and the pitstop. After that I passed Jamin while he pitted, and Scratchy about 45 minutes in; he put up a fight as well :) Then the next guy in front of me was Lameduck, but he was running approximately the same laptimes as me with a 10+ second lead, so I didn't hope to catch him. I was in 9th place at that time, and settled for the 2 points I was gonna earn.
In the end I finished in 8th because of one guy being banned right before the finish for swearing, earning me 3 points :) I moved up some places in the rankings, so all in all not a bad result, I guess. Just stupid of me to throw away my qualifying position like that :rolleyes:
All in all I really enjoyed this combo, not only the long race but the shorter ones during the week as well.
I am amazed you chaps can remember such detail! Now you remind me, I do recall our battle. I hope I was being difficult to pass but fair with it.
Well it’s just not been a good week.
Wed - NKPro race disrupted
Thur - Disco from LFS race with 15-20 min to go.
I qualified well, in 2nd Place. :) (How!! there seemed a few who could manage (much) better times mid week.)
At the start of the race I dropped to 3rd after turn 2, then down to 4th when CueBall found a way past after a couple of laps. I seemed to be a fraction down on top speed, as I could only match CueBall's top speed when in his slipstream, it made me an easy(ish) target for an overtake once someone got within striking distance. Next to get by was DeeSlider when I was held up slightly then made a couple of mistakes.
Thankfully this was the end of my slippery slide backwards down the pack.
CueBall made a mistake and Dee and I got past. I managed to keep the pressure on Dee for the next few laps and either he started to make a few mistakes or had tyre problems and I managed to pass him, getting back into 3rd.
It was now getting near pit stop time, a lot of people like me seemed to be running a mid way stop / fuel top up strategy, as the FOX was poor on a heavy fuel load. (With my setup anyway.) I was very pleasantly surprised to find myself in 2nd after the flurry of stops, and with a reasonable gap to 3rd, I was hoping to finish in that position. I had just got my head down and was concentrating on doing nice consistent laps when I got disconnected. A drop out on my broadband connection. :ranting2:
Gutted. :angry:
Quote from: Doorman;264972I am amazed you chaps can remember such detail!
My memory hasn't been corrupted by age yet :D
Quote from: Doorman;264972I do recall our battle. I hope I was being difficult to pass but fair with it.
You were difficult to pass, alright. More like impossible, due to you being faster on the straights :) And of course you were fair, what kind of question is that? Show me a dMr driver who isn't fair? :)
My last race, for the legendary Milkinfirst-team. Also my first 1 hour-race for a while.
Did the qualy with my race-setup, as i wanna be used to it, when the race started.
A couple drivers passed my at the start, as expected. Had a lot of fuel, 95%.
Was planning to do just a quick stop'n-go at the pit.
Was right behind Mille, and in front of Doorman. And Mille's car start to lagg a lot. Sometimes behind me, and sometimes in front of me. So i take it very carefully, but then he disco... :sad:
Soon i catched Jamin, and chased him half the race. That was the best part of the race. Felt that i was a little bit faster then him, but it was allmost impossible to do a safe overtake. Didn't feel that i was in a hurry to pass him, as we had a big gap to the one behind me, so i didn't have any pressure.
But Jamin start to doin faster and faster laps, and alot of PB's.. so i had to concentrate me, to not let hem go away to far
But after about half the race, he get some little slide at some corner, and i could pass him.
Think it was Oldbloke next, but he also did some mistake right when i catched him, or if he just let me pass.
But after that it was like singleplayer for me.
Had Aquafiller behind me some laps at the end, and he slowly geting closer. But i knowed he had pitted, and i hadn't done my pitstop yet, so it wasn't so thrilling. Knewed he would pass me when i pitted.
Finished 5th i think, i that im very pleased with.
Next race in some new coulors then.. :flirty:
I was uncomfortable with this combo, and wasn't going to take part, but Cueball and Lameduck found me on the demo server and wouldn't take no for an answer, so there I was. I wasn't really competitive though, made a mistake early on when Doors and I were being lapped, think it was Dee Slider who I cut in front of, very very sorry indeed - was keeping Doors in my sights but suffered some damage that I had to have repaired, and just as Deetz disco'd, I hit a wall at full speed on the flyover and spectated before I got in the way of everyone else.
Still, I enjoyed it in the end, and enjoyed watching the end of the race as much as the racing... :)
Maybe one day we can do South City in a car with wheel-arches - so far it's been the MRT and the FOX...
Sorry I missed this one. Enjoyed a few short races with the combo over the weekend - til my wheel broke :crying:
obsolum - during practice and the short races I was thinking setup strategy ,,,,, whether to tune for faster on the straights or faster in the turns. I was tending to think faster straights for just the situation you describe with Doorman.
The LX4 @ Aston should be a pleasant change of pace... couldn't even smoke a cig while driving at South City in the FOX........got some time to relax at Aston with the LX4 :clap:
Quote from: easyed;265020Sorry I missed this one. Enjoyed a few short races with the combo over the weekend - til my wheel broke :crying:
obsolum - during practice and the short races I was thinking setup strategy ,,,,, whether to tune for faster on the straights or faster in the turns. I was tending to think faster straights for just the situation you describe with Doorman.
The LX4 @ Aston should be a pleasant change of pace... couldn't even smoke a cig while driving at South City in the FOX........got some time to relax at Aston with the LX4 :clap:
OMG! Smokerrr! :doh: Oops, sorry wrong game. :blush2:
Well, after a previous 2 abysmal Thursday races I was well pleased with this one. Qualified around 6th I think. Had a gamble with tires and chose R1s and set them to change a 49% wear and an 88% fuel load.
I got fairly swamped at the start and lost about 3 places. But after a few laps I was up to speed and cutting me way back through the field. I settled down into about 6th pace, behind Aqui, for the next while with the distance between us fluctuating. I made a pit stop after half way and it didnt change my tires, stop was really quick. This and the couple of discos had my up to third after every one had been processed in the pits. In the last few laps I was catching that guy that got kicked, he was quick but it looked like the frustration of his tires or damage or some thing was slowing him down. I had a very scary dice with him when I made this pass. He was very aggressive, I was sure it would end in tears. I was also aware of a MR Dee Slider gaining on me every lap :). However, there where too few laps left and I got me a second place wooohoo :)
Unlucky with the discos guys.
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Now, for my waffle about tires. I used one set of R1s for the whole race and I noticed some thing interesting (not for the 1st time) that got me thinking. ohoh :)
Lap 1-3 : I had to be careful as it was a bit nervous until the surface temps were up.
Lap 3-8/9 : Car handled nicely, I could give it plenty of "beans" but still had to avoid lockups etc to stop the tire surface accumulating heat.
Lap 9-13 : Tires became quite a hand full, had to ease off to keep them under control and they accumulated heat much more easily.
Lap 13-end : Tires suddenly turn absolutely perfect, I didn't have to take that much care at all. In fact they stopped much more smoothly on braking without any hint of lockup and the same for corner exits with minimal tire squeal out of corners. Tire wear was nil at this point.
Makes me wonder that a lot of the racing people do in LFS doesn't really use the tires like they are supposed to be used and consequently, I imagine, affects how a lot of people judge the tire physics.
Im talking about short races. It makes me think, ludicrous as it may sound, we might need a softer tire compound for shorter racing. It's like in shorter racing we never have a tire that gets to "optimum" temperature. In short races some people might use r2 slicks to stop them hitting that lap 9-13 "wall" where the tires are getting hot. But infact R2s are not optimum at any point in a short race, its just that they are taking a lot longer to hit that pre optimum wall. R1s take less time to hit that wall, but its still 9-13 laps and a lot of races are finishing by then. Perhaps its not a softer compound we need, but maybe the ability to start with tires at a hotter temperature.
Its also some thing I have never heard discussed in real life racing. The tires are cold for a few laps then they seem to be optimum and that's it. Not what I have experienced in LFS where they take about 3 laps to get up some surface temperature then slowly reach a wall where (seemingly) the inside of the tire is approaching the same temp as the surface, then they become fully optimum. Maybe the commentators don't go into that much detail :/
Damn my feeble grasp of physics and thermodynamics :D
Anyway, what are your thoughts?
Interesting explanation about the tyres there, Sean. In a similar way often using R2's will cause your tyres to get too cold after you hit that 9-13 "wall", when they should normally be at their optimum temperature but are not being pushed hard enough. I had my R2's at fairly low pressures to keep them greenish. Maybe I should have experimented a bit more with R1's but I liked how the R2's felt, didn't really have any problems with them.
I think in real life a tyre operates optimally only after a certain amount of wear, which would explain your example perfectly. So I guess LFS does simulate this pretty well.
I was surprised it felt bit hard in the qualifying. I even had to tune down the setup a bit to make it safer for the 1h race. Maybe it was the wind as others didn't seem to be able to do quite as fast laps as during the week either.
Decided to just take it easy and see how it goes. I picked few places when other had problems. I had 60% fuel and 30% more at the pit stop. Unfortunately I had enough small contacts with walls to damage the right cambers so that the tyres became about level and so heating the outer edge in corners and making left turns harder. That's why I had to fix damage at the stop. That together with the mentioned refueling and the surprise bonus tyre change dropped me bit down.
Apart from those the car felt surprisingly ok for the entire race.
Congrats to all finishing.