Dead Men Walking

Forum Archive 2023 => dMw's Community Centre => Community Archive => Dead Men Folding => Topic started by: TeaLeaf on August 31, 2003, 12:22:45 PM

Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 31, 2003, 12:22:45 PM
Welcome to the Deadmen Folding topic!  

As of 31 August 2003 we now have a Folding Team and over the next few days and weeks (mainly weeks as I am away for the next 5 days) I will be adding posts to let you know what folding is, what it does, how to join etc.

In the mean time you can read all about folding here (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/).

You can download the client you need to run on your machine here (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html).  At the bottom of this page you can also check that the 'folding name' that you want to use is unique.

Don't forget to add our team number 33597 to your client!

Let's see how far up the ladder we can get eh?

TL. :cool:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: JB on August 31, 2003, 12:30:20 PM
Origami team eh?
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 31, 2003, 12:58:37 PM
So you'll join the team then eh?  Tell us when you're up and running  :D

TL. :cool:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on August 31, 2003, 01:23:42 PM
Sounds like a laugh - I'm on the team with my XP2000 now.

I'll add a PIII-500 shortly for laughs, and see how it does.

Seems like a more positive use of my CPU cycles than things like SETI, which to me are a waste of time. (famous last words, we'll undoubtedly hear tomorrow that they've discovered life in outer space now :-)

tugs.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on August 31, 2003, 01:26:53 PM
...although I noted with amusement that the first thing this "tiny" program did was to download a new "core" - a 600k file!  Be nice to be warned about that...

Still, once off thing I guess - or is this core the actual work units? Thankfully I'm on broadband, so who cares ultimately.

tugs.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on August 31, 2003, 01:31:33 PM
Ah.. just found the log option:

[12:21:05] + Processing work unit
[12:21:05] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[12:21:05] Core not found.
[12:21:05] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[12:21:05] - Attempting to download new core...
[12:21:05] + Downloading new core: FahCore_78.exe

I guess it means you don't have to download every core up front, just the one for folding when you need it. I've set my clients to "prefer" Folding, rather than Genome.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: OldBloke on August 31, 2003, 01:53:17 PM
Up 'n' running also on the 'Folding' project.

Client is crap  <_<
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: smilodon on August 31, 2003, 02:02:26 PM
I'm afraid I'm already commited to a group that runs Seti (so  :narnar:   to you Tugs  ;)  ).

Good luck anyway  :)
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 31, 2003, 02:31:08 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by smilodon@Aug 31 2003, 02:02 PM
I'm afraid I'm already commited to a group that runs Seti.
Smilodon, you're outnumbered 3-1, so join us immediately!   :thumbsup:
I mean, you of all people should recognise that nobody will ever find someone who looks like a be-spectacled and heat melted plastics engineer............ /me catches sight  of Smilodon's avatar :blink:

TL. :cool:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on August 31, 2003, 03:53:14 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by smilodon@Aug 31 2003, 01:02 PM
I'm afraid I'm already commited to a group that runs Seti (so :narnar:  to you Tugs ;) ).
S'ok - each to their own. SETI is pretty, but I gave up on it pretty quickly. I've been running the distributed.net client mainly, on and off for the last 5 years or so - but this looks vaguely interesting.

I'd agree with the comment that the client sucks though - 6/10:"Could do better".
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on August 31, 2003, 03:56:08 PM
I have never been of any use or done anything of worth in my time on this planet....so im gunna give this a try ....that way when i sell crack to the kids on the street i can go home switch on the pc and  feel good about myself    ^_^

Count me in  :thumbsup:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on August 31, 2003, 05:08:41 PM
Curious.

My AthlonXP 2000+ apparently is completing bits of the work unit at exactly double the rate of the PIII-500. Which is, to say the least, disappointing...

I wonder what's going on.

tugs.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2003, 05:16:19 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by tugs@Aug 31 2003, 05:08 PM
Curious.

My AthlonXP 2000+ apparently is completing bits of the work unit at exactly double the rate of the PIII-500. Which is, to say the least, disappointing...

I wonder what's going on.

tugs.
Intel Roolz  :narnar:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on August 31, 2003, 05:17:10 PM
Ok.

Since many of you are likely to be using AMD processors, the advice is that AMD users should download and run the 3.25 Beta (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/beta/beta.html) version.

...because that will use SSE to help things along. Or something like that. I'll let you know if things improve!

There's also a Folding@Home Tweakers' guide here (http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-06-10.html), most of which you probably will know already but it might be useful in some vases.

tugs.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 31, 2003, 05:24:17 PM
I am currently pulling together a whole host of FAQs, links, hints & tips to post up by the end of the week for reference.  If anyone has something they wish to be included please post it up and we'll pull ou tthe best bits by next weekend.  :D

TL. :cool:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Doorman on August 31, 2003, 09:44:25 PM
I think I'm out of the loop here. I followed your link to the download, clicked on the required logo and got XPAntispy! Dressed in 'folding@3.exe clothing. Hurumph!
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: smilodon on August 31, 2003, 10:11:55 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by tugs@Aug 31 2003, 05:17 PM
.....most of which you probably will know already but it might be useful in some vases.

tugs.
Nope that would be flowers  ;)
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 31, 2003, 10:29:10 PM
Well I have now got 2 computers running the software and should get another 2 or 3 running by tomorrow.

Remember, you can install the software on as many machines as you like and use the same username and team number, that way you will be credited with the completed work units from *all* of those machines.

Just make sure that you use a UNIQUE USERNAME.  Check the folding website for the name checker.

TL. :cool:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on August 31, 2003, 10:49:03 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Aug 31 2003, 08:44 PM
I think I'm out of the loop here. I followed your link to the download, clicked on the required logo and got XPAntispy! Dressed in 'folding@3.exe clothing. Hurumph!
Which link was that, and which logo?

I've downloaded windows clients from both the page TL put up, as well as the beta page I put up and they were both legit as far as I can tell.

I hope  :blink:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: smilodon on September 01, 2003, 12:47:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Aug 31 2003, 09:44 PM
I think I'm out of the loop here. I followed your link to the download, clicked on the required logo and got XPAntispy! Dressed in 'folding@3.exe clothing. Hurumph!
Yep I think you've got your downloads mixed up?
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Doorman on September 01, 2003, 12:55:05 AM
I may be dim....I followed the link in TL's post check it.Press here. (http://www.finnglish.co.uk/Stuff/folding.jpg)
I did however download it from tugs's link and am now asking myself why!
What the hell is it? :blink:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on September 01, 2003, 06:56:45 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Aug 31 2003, 11:55 PM
I may be dim....I followed the link in TL's post check it.Press here. (http://www.finnglish.co.uk/Stuff/folding.jpg)
I did however download it from tugs's link and am now asking myself why!
What the hell is it? :blink:
How bizarre. The link on that page is to http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/r...lding@Home3.EXE (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/release/Folding@Home3.EXE) which seems right to me. Why you ended up with XP Antispy is a mystery...

I think though that you probably need to have installed 3.24 before running 3.25beta, cos I think 3.25beta is just 1the client front end itself, without all the associated file structure and installer.

As to what it is - that may depend on (a) whether you followed TL's first link, and (B) whether you got the 3.24 installed first, or just the 3.25beta. You should have options to see pretty molecule displays if you like, and let it get on with doing some folding of proteins.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 01, 2003, 08:00:19 AM
I appear to have downloaded a motherload unit for my first work unit  :blink:   It is huge and has been running since yesterday and is still only two-thirds of the way through  :(

TL. :cool:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 01, 2003, 08:32:26 AM
I am now away until Friday evening, so see you all then.  With luck my systemwill successfully manage to send the unit back on its own (dial up not BB), we'll have to see!

Keep folding and recruiting more rigs to the team  :D

TL. :cool:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Stryker on September 01, 2003, 09:15:54 AM
yay, I think I'm folding  :D
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: SecretSquirrel on September 01, 2003, 01:01:20 PM
Before I do this - how much do I get paid :rolleyes:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Stryker on September 01, 2003, 03:10:39 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Aug 31 2003, 09:29 PM
Well I have now got 2 computers running the software and should get another 2 or 3 running by tomorrow.

Remember, you can install the software on as many machines as you like and use the same username and team number, that way you will be credited with the completed work units from *all* of those machines.

Just make sure that you use a UNIQUE USERNAME.  Check the folding website for the name checker.

TL. :cool:
yeah, some TANGO already had Stryker, so I've just changed it to dMw-stryker.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Doorman on September 01, 2003, 03:32:42 PM
Well, I did get the thing up and running and watched the spirally things twirling round but I couldn't get any kind of score. I'm just crap at these sort of games. :(
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: albert on September 02, 2003, 10:12:32 AM
Done, on my work laptop, 1200 PIII. 0% so far, after 2 mins, I assume this is about as murderous on the old CPU as the Ligand Fit program from Oxford Uni ?

I better lower the CPU use so I can work :D
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: OldBloke on September 02, 2003, 10:26:04 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by albert@Sep 2 2003, 10:12 AM
... I better lower the CPU use so I can work :D
I thought it only worked flat out when the CPU was idle.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: albert on September 02, 2003, 12:30:41 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke+Sep 2 2003, 09:26 AM-->
QUOTE (OldBloke @ Sep 2 2003, 09:26 AM)
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Zok on September 02, 2003, 12:39:25 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke+Sep 2 2003, 09:26 AM-->
QUOTE (OldBloke @ Sep 2 2003, 09:26 AM)
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Stryker on September 02, 2003, 02:55:48 PM
I thought it ran on low priority.  So winNT/2k/XP users should be fine, it will only take spare CPU cycles.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Gandalf on September 03, 2003, 10:16:00 PM
I'm in
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: tugs on September 03, 2003, 10:26:15 PM
Ok, I'm now running it on:

Athlon XP2000+
PIII-500
PIII-750 (daytime only)
2 x PIII-650

and shortly a PIII-700 too.

But I have to say, I hate the client. And it screws up the hover text in the system tray which is unforgivable. Heck, I'm not a programmer but I've managed to write systray icon code that doesn't screw things up like that...

I'll hang with it for the moment though out of curiosity, and a sense of purpose. Or something.

tugs.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Tutonic on September 04, 2003, 12:27:25 AM
Interesting..

I'll set my 2100+ on it tonight and see what happens :)
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: FBG on September 04, 2003, 10:05:01 AM
stupid thing crashes whenever i try to display it. It runs in the taskbar just can see shit.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Stryker on September 04, 2003, 11:26:46 AM
Lets see, I've got it running on:

PII 800
PII 800
PIII 1000
PIII 1000
PIII 500

Bottom line its on every server at work that it can be on..... within reason :-)  God less idle DNS servers  :D
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2003, 02:02:16 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Stryker@Sep 4 2003, 11:26 AM
Bottom line its on every server at work that it can be on..... within reason :-) God less idle DNS servers :D
Quite! One should be enough to make this whole internet thingy work.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Tutonic on September 04, 2003, 02:11:57 PM
I could only get the beta version of this program to run, the normal version would kill itself before it got to the installation screen...  <_<


FBG, you avatar looks remarkably similar to one of our ED ones.... you been pinching our stuff?  :P
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: sheepy on September 04, 2003, 03:42:18 PM
im in, downloaded client, now letting the client download the other stuff it needs

all be it will b a small contribution as i STILL only have my 800mhz system
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Stryker on September 04, 2003, 07:11:53 PM
can add my 2Ghz home pc to that list now  ;)
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: FBG on September 05, 2003, 09:45:43 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TuToNiC@Sep 4 2003, 01:11 PM


FBG, you avatar looks remarkably similar to one of our ED ones.... you been pinching our stuff?  :P
ofcourse, i steal whenever possible, frags, icons, any credit due to someone else  :D
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: sheepy on September 05, 2003, 10:28:30 AM
vwp fbg!
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: sheepy on September 05, 2003, 10:31:28 AM
just looked at the progress or our team. and im not in it!!!! do i only appear when i have completed my 1st WU????
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: OldBloke on September 05, 2003, 10:32:16 AM
Yep.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Stryker on September 05, 2003, 03:52:39 PM
correct sheepy
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: sheepy on September 18, 2003, 11:21:21 PM
im up 2 75% now!!!!

feck i wish i had a fsaster computer. i would have finished this last week
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Doorman on September 22, 2003, 11:06:30 PM
I've succumbed. I've got 2Ghz P4 1Ghz P3 and 600Mhz Celeron working. Do I have to know anything about this or can I simply let them do their own thing?
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 23, 2003, 12:08:31 AM
Welcome to the team Ron  :D

As long as the client has your unique username in it and our team number then we'll be fine.  I would suggest that you check that it has got a Work Unit by hovering the mouse over the tray icon.  If it has managed to get hold of a WU then it will start folding straight away.  The only other thing to check is that it uploads correctly - sometimes you need to either check or uncheck the 'use IE's connectiion settings' box.  It is dependent upon your system as to which works for you set up.

Finally, I have unchecked all of the graphics options and selected a preference for Folding@Home under the Client Type box (otherwise you may also get to fold some Genome@Home WUs by mistake.

As you have a Pentium then the flags options are of less importance to you.

TL.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Doorman on September 23, 2003, 08:32:48 AM
:whistle: Here we go again. My three machines were munching away happily, albeit slowly, when I closed down for the night. This morning howevah, while two of them continued with the same WUs my 2Ghz is left with 0/0! It says it's working, but on what? The WU has gorn.
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Doorman on September 23, 2003, 08:53:51 AM
Alright everyone, stand down. Alles in ordnung, a restart sorted it out.  :rolleyes:
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Gone_Away on September 29, 2003, 02:59:39 PM
Folding...
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: Bunce on October 18, 2003, 01:23:13 PM
I've downloaded.
I've installed
I've setup
I'm working

Only on a P4 2.4Ghz, 512ram. But i think it should help :S
Title: Deadmen Folding - Team 33597
Post by: TeaLeaf on October 18, 2003, 03:02:47 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bunce@Oct 18 2003, 01:23 PM
I've downloaded.
I've installed
I've setup
I'm working

Only on a P4 2.4Ghz, 512ram. But i think it should help :S
Every extra bit of folding powers helps :D

Now watch our score rise a little faster each week on the detailed score link.......

TL.