Hi All
I have created this thread so we can discuss the issues raised by TE_owner's thread. (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=26762)
The thread started to show us doing our dirty washing in public which obviously damages this community so I closed the thread. But we can take lessons from this and make sure we are not called into question again.
My take on it is that there are two main lessons to take from that thread.
1. Threads in inappropriate sections
If you come across a thread that you think best belongs elsewhere then please feel free to move it. However, as a matter of courtesy (and to cover your back), please inform the OP by PM of your actions and CC it to your Section Head. Your PM should make clear that if they object and want it returned then they will need to approach the Forum Section Head and that they must not make a complaint in their thread.
This begs the question: Do you need a standard template for this? Are there others that you could use?
2. Inappropriate replies to threads in the 'But Seriously' section.
We created this section because we needed an oasis of sensibility in our desert of **** taking so rule this section with an iron fist. If any posts are not serious replies to the OP then delete them - even if they're really funny :)
Keep up the good work people.
I think we should change the title of it as well
QuoteSeriously though ... Straightforward answers to straightforward questions. No bull, except for any old crap Benny thinks up.
The last part of it signals that it is semi ok to make jokes here. I'd rather have it called.
QuoteSeriously though ... Straightforward answers to straightforward questions. No bull or banter.
I agree.
Also, as one of the SH's covering the forums for the meanwhile rename the sub header for Banter and remove the work bollox (And also boll ocks from Smite's Spray shop). I've been meaning to do it for ages but that's just reminded me. I'm sure I'll get slapped back into line if I'm wrong :)
I hadn't read this thread until now. I had noticed it was there but a thread about 'What hair wax' etc didn't interest me so I never read it. I also didn't notice until this time that it was in the 'Seriously' section.
It was big of you to apologise Oldie and I respect that action, but surely we should have picked this thread up earlier? I guess I'm to blame as much as anyone for not noticing and mentioning the way the thread had gone wrong to the appropiate moderatior?
My suggestion from this is that all moderators should do their best to keep an eye on threads especially in the 'Seriously' section. Then if the thread goes off track the appropiate moderator can be alerted as soon as possible.
Just a thought, I, as moderator of a totally different section, presume I wouldn't have been able to do anything about the thread myself?
Agreed@Doc for section sub header
Quote from: Dr Sadako;268536I think we should change the title of it as well
Title changed to:
Straightforward answers to straightforward questions. No bull. No banter.
I don't know where the 'Benny' reference came from tbh. It wasn't there originally.
Quote from: Jabbs;268539Just a thought, I, as moderator of a totally different section, presume I wouldn't have been able to do anything about the thread myself?
You couldn't 'physically' do anything about the forum as you wouldn't have the moderator rights on it. That doesn't mean to say that if you come across an inappropriate post you should ignore it. We're all in this together as you say we should all keep an eye out and report wayward posts to the respective forum moderator (or SH if the moderator not around).
Quote from: Penfold;268543You couldn't 'physically' do anything about the forum as you wouldn't have the moderator rights on it. That doesn't mean to say that if you come across an inappropriate post you should ignore it. We're all in this together as you say we should all keep an eye out and report wayward posts to the respective forum moderator (or SH if the moderator not around).
Exactly what I was suggesting. I (as part of the team) will try to do better in future :)
As will I, as will us all.
I didn't pick up on it just as much as the rest of us didn't. As Oldie rightly points out if you use the 'New Posts' feature then it's often pretty easy to miss which section it's in.
Looking back in hindsight there are a couple of observations:
1. The majority of the Section Heads posted something flippant in the thread which was wrong. That sets the tenor for everyone else.
2. When TE posted
Quote from: TE_owner;268313why is it the best thred? am i missing somthing :g::blink::eyebrow::sideways:
Should have been the nudge we needed to get it back on track.
Well spotted Mats and it's all part of the evolution :)
Im sorry for not going through the right channels to make aware what was going wrong, instead i just posted my thoughts in the tread, might be because my brain had gone to bed..
I dont think its the time to point fingers, Its time to reflect and learn from these mistakes..
No one's pointing fingers :D
We're all just learning our way through this via open discussion. Like I said, it's all part of the learning curve......
In hindsight i was going to post a please keep this thread on track reply but as i saw a lot of the moderators were "having fun " i restrained. Probably should have now:sad: soz
Quote from: sulky_uk;268550In hindsight i was going to post a please keep this thread on track reply but as i saw a lot of the moderators were "having fun " i restrained. Probably should have now:sad: soz
After reading Sulkys post, and reflecting a bit, i guess that was one of the reasons i didnt push forward, simple moderators as me tend no to go to much in the way of section head/senior admins..
I guess we all forget or can be lax sometimes. OldBloke himself did and apologised.
If I may be so bold even those of us new to moderating shouldn't be afraid to PM a section head if they see a mistake has been made?
How would you play this one people?
Hell, the thread made me laugh. The section name came about because I asked for it originally and I think it was added as an after thought as I do, or did, tend to ask some random questions.
It was a serious question, it's just the responses that were off base. I'm as guilty as anyone, but didn't feel the need to move it as he was getting some straight answers. No biggie from here, but I'll keep a closer eye in future.
This is going a little too far, don't you all think? I made a flippant post in that thread as well, not realising that it was in the "Seriously though" forum,, until I read Sadako's post, but, c'mon, all this weeping and gnashing of teeth?
In mitigation to everyone's conscience, one doesn't expect a "Hair Gel" post in that particular forum, and presumably, none of the posters who flippantly (NOT mindlessly!) commented realised that this was "SERIOUSLY THOUGH".
As Pen said, its all a learning curve. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time, let's get over this one without too much more self-flagellation.
My point (to why I posted that people should stay on topic) is that the section should be free from flippant remarks or banter irrespectively of what topic is asked. If we have some sliding scale within that forum section depending on the topic we will have havoc in no time. Also who would decide what topics are ok to make flippant remarks about? Please don't even consider to go down that route.
If I post a question in that section I want to be spared from the banter and pointless smiley/image posts that regularly show up in many of the forum threads. Either the forum section is what it is supposed to be or we can just close it down discuss in banter instead.
My five,
Agree with Mats regarding the "Seriously Though" section.... I admit to not noticing what section it was in but then again rarely look.
Cracking Thread though :P
can i just apologise for not noticing the thread, i have only just read about this and have been away over the weekend and havent had access to the forums. didnt want you to think i wasnt monitoring the area's i have been asked to :sad: