Dead Men Walking

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47178.html

this is why I hate franchises only just bought the last one!!! and still havent played it out or learnt everything

Unless they improve key security by locking it to a single account like BF2 i will give this one a miss. Having your key sitting in the registry is simply unexusable. Also if you buy the game and your key is hijacked activision refuse to give you a new key as there key warehouse is in a seperate building. Therefore if you want another copy stump up the full price again.

i will be buying it whatever.......:boxing:

I bet this is going to rock, it is from Infinity ward, same makers as CoD4 :yahoo:

Quote from: GhostMjr;270184Unless they improve key security by locking it to a single account like BF2 i will give this one a miss. Having your key sitting in the registry is simply unexusable. Also if you buy the game and your key is hijacked activision refuse to give you a new key as there key warehouse is in a seperate building. Therefore if you want another copy stump up the full price again.

Just don't let folks poke around in your registry and if you do you can't expect Activision to take the hit.

Quote from: GhostMjr;270184Unless they improve key security by locking it to a single account like BF2 i will give this one a miss. Having your key sitting in the registry is simply unexusable. Also if you buy the game and your key is hijacked activision refuse to give you a new key as there key warehouse is in a seperate building. Therefore if you want another copy stump up the full price again.

 
And stop buying dodgy copies :lmfao:

Quite a interesting article on Eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/modern-warfare-2-ditches-cod-name


Seems that MOD has become its own entierty and Treyarch might be taking the COD name forward.

Quote from: BrotherTobious;270319Quite a interesting article on Eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/modern-warfare-2-ditches-cod-name


Seems that MOD has become its own entierty and Treyarch might be taking the COD name forward.

I think that is really a good thing. In my opinion Treyarch has always been the bad studio and Infinity ward the better. Just need to wait and see how it goes.

Interesting. So this is a sequel to CoD4 then? Should be a good game I hope, I would have to upgrade my PC to run it though :crying:. I wonder if there is going to be a BF3 though? BF2 is, in my humble opinion, one of the best shooters ever made.

Quote from: Tomcornwall;270447Interesting. So this is a sequel to CoD4 then? Should be a good game I hope, I would have to upgrade my PC to run it though :crying:. I wonder if there is going to be a BF3 though? BF2 is, in my humble opinion, one of the best shooters ever made.

there's BF1943 which is like a remake of 1942 but with better graphics styling ect ect

Some game play, only 15sec but at least something :D
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49095.html

Quote from: Lexander;275716Some game play, only 15sec but at least something :D
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49095.html

oorah rock n' roll ready go topside :boxing::boxing::boxing:....in november sigh.

Some more to get the hype up. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-modern-warfare/49544

And I looks so sweet :yahoo:

Edit: And remember to check http://www.modernwarfare2.com Tomorrow for extended and uncut trailer.

Edit2: If anyone haven't already seen the analyze of the original teaser, here it is http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gt-pop-block-modern-warfare/47371

looks good so far, lets hope the ingame graphics are like that :D

Quote from: Snokio;277085looks good so far, lets hope the ingame graphics are like that :D

It is game play, so can't be much worse :norty:

New teaser is on modernwarfare2.com!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-modern-warfare/50039

All I can say, WHERE IS THE PRE-ORDER BUTTON!??

ME WANT NOW !!! :dribble::dribble:

:dribble::woot2:

Get it on pre-order here (http://www.coolshop.co.uk/catalog/product/58074-modern-warfare-2-(call-of-duty)--for-pc) for Ã,£23.99 inc delivery.

That's a much better price than Amazon and Play (Ã,£35) and they're usually good at pre-orders.

I'm waiting for it to hit Steam at a sensible price.

Quote from: T-Bag;286633That's a much better price than Amazon and Play (Ã,£35) and they're usually good at pre-orders.

I'm waiting for it to hit Steam at a sensible price.

With  T on this one.

If its at 20-30 on steam i'll grab it straight away!

Fingers crossed we may have a beta at the lan :)

1. I'll be getting this in November so, if/when you lot get a server, I'll be hopping on to shoot y-.. uh, I mean, have a few games with you with shinier graphics. :)

2. If you haven't checked it out already, take a look at 402's twitter page (http://www.twitter.com/fourzerotwo). He's the Community Manager for Infinity Ward and he's been dripfeeding various bits of MW2-related info. His latest post talks about the next multiplayer preview video coming on Tuesday (1st September). Might be worth checking out if you need your info fix. :)

nice one thx :D

Am I the only one not really looking forward to MW2? I got all new hardware to play CoD4, and before that to run BF2... I cant really see myself forking out for more new hardware. I think I will stick with CoH and CoD4 for a bit longer yet.

Quote from: Tomcornwall;287984Am I the only one not really looking forward to MW2? I got all new hardware to play CoD4, and before that to run BF2... I cant really see myself forking out for more new hardware. I think I will stick with CoH and CoD4 for a bit longer yet.

If the game engine optimization is done anywhere near as good as the first one, you don't need any new hardware. The MW1 engine is awesome, it looks great with even with lower spec. I'm running it with 8800gts and e8400 with 4GB memory and can almost top everything. And plan to use that kit with the MW2 too.

Quote from: Tomcornwall;287984Am I the only one not really looking forward to MW2? I got all new hardware to play CoD4, and before that to run BF2... I cant really see myself forking out for more new hardware. I think I will stick with CoH and CoD4 for a bit longer yet.

I always upgrade my hardware regularly to keep up with games. So when I got CoD 4 at christmas it wasn't very demanding for my system. Why so late you might ask?
I buy my games on Steam (I got bored of installing games and patching them myself a long time ago). I've got a 700GB partition set aside for games so I can have everything installed and never worry. I used to format every 6 months, so installing even 3-4 games would have taken eternity compared to steam.
Anyway, when CoD 4 came to steam and was a stupid price (It's still Ã,£30 which for a game that old is silly). I waited and picked it up in a sale for Ã,£15.

When MW2 is launched you can bet it will be Ã,£35 and the old one will still be more than playable till it drops in price. No rush for me.
Plus some of the best games I've had of CoD 4 are with people on here, and I doubt everyone will suddenly upgrade so there will still be plenty of good games to be had.

If you want more MW2 goodness, then look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PMRFkx07g

First and foremost: MW2 is getting a CTF gametype. :)

And some other things I spotted:

- On the console versions at least, there will be Street Fighter 4-style name badges, such as "Suppressor", "FNG", "The Specialist", "Boom! Headshot!", as well as avatar pictures.
- Players can use Riot Shields (possible perk?)
- Instead of having to pick up weapons to see attachments, it seems like some are added as suffixes to the weapons ("SCAR-H Bling", "UMP45 Extended Mags")
- There will be some way for some weapons to have larger clips. (see above)
- The TAR-21 (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb72/Jackofblades_2007/tavor_01.jpg) will be in the game.
- Killstreaks will have more bonuses than just at three, five and seven kills. We know about the 11-kill bonus (AC-130 from the last video), but this video shows an Airdrop bonus at four kills. But, strangely, the player didn't get a chopper at seven kills. Perhaps the "customisable killstreaks" only allow you to set three bonuses as a replacement for the traditional UAV/Airstrike/Chopper combo?

You can THROW KNIVES1!!!!11:woot2:
Don't tell Soonjung:roflmao:

It looks like they've added LOADS of new stuff. That should be a hell of a sequel.
Looking forward to this a bit now actually. A sequel in November worth playing it seems. :roflmao:

That AC-130 looks so awesome! I want this game now :yahoo:

But that was console gameplay, so imagine the game with pc then :crazy:

Quote from: lionheart;286620Get it on pre-order here (http://www.coolshop.co.uk/catalog/product/58074-modern-warfare-2-(call-of-duty)--for-pc) for Ã,£23.99 inc delivery.

Pff, again a site not for the Dutch.
Ahwell, I'm going to look around, seems Play is the cheapest one and as they're one of our affiliates...
 
Hmm, seems Play is off the list of affiliates.
But Gameplay has it for 29.99

Game play looks cool... was that a IAR he was using at the beginning of that video?

After watching it again and looking at the ammo counter (20 bullets), I think the gun at the beginning of the video is the FN SCAR-H, (possibly an IAR variant as you said, Tom, seeing as the wiki article says there was one). :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_SCAR

Check gametrailers.com, they got about 5 new videos of the new multiplayer! :yahoo:

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/modern-warfare-2/11043

Something to watch!

(http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20090918.jpg)

From the looks of things, there are not one, but two new gametypes.

The first one, we likely already know: CTF. The second official MP video was dedicated to it.

The second one, however, has only been leaked through camvideos from a recent press event and shown on GameTrailers (of which there are now quite a lot - in excess of 10 from a quick glance). And this gametype, from the looks of things, is called "Demolition".

Sort of like Sabotage was basically SnD with a more fast-paced twist, Demolition seems to be SnD with a multi-tasking twist. Like in SnD, there are two bombsites but, instead of having a choice as to which one you plant the bomb at, you need to plant bombs at both of them.

The two bombsites can be destroyed independently and the two bombs have independent timers. I'm not entirely sure on the rules behind it, but the round depicted in the video ended when both sites were destroyed by the attacking team and, when one site was destroyed, I'm assuming the time remaining in the round was extended, from the looks of the "Time Extension!" message flashing on-screen.

----

I've also seen a site which, again, through leaks in the form of pictures, show what the new perks (yes, new perks) do. There's even talk of the perks having a challenge attributed to them which, once completed, unlocks an enhanced "Pro" version.

Bling (Slot 1): Allows you to fit two weapon attachments to your primary weapon.

Marathon (Slot 1): Unlimited sprint

Scavenger (Slot 1): Obtain more ammo from discarded weapons.

Lightweight (Slot 2): Faster movement speed

Commando (Slot 3): Larger melee attack range.

Not sure if these will be changed to make the leaks irrelevant, but... it's something to chew on. But, here's a theoretical loadout to get you thinking:

P90 (Silencer)
Marathon
Lightweight
Dead Silence

Granted, no Stopping Power but, with all three perks dedicated to hauling ass (faster movement, near-silent movement, infinite sprint), think of what you could get out of a quick stealthy foray into the other team's spawnpoint... ;)

Pre-Order at this shop online....it's the cheapest i have found...

http://www.coolshop.co.uk/catalog/minisite/modern-warfare-2#STS=g06yi8yh.r5u

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/infamy-trailer-modern-warfare/57266

Quote from: Lexander;291814http://www.gametrailers.com/video/infamy-trailer-modern-warfare/57266

Nice find lex

Any news on the steam pre order date?

Quote from: GhostMjr;291816Any news on the steam pre order date?

I haven't heard any, and last night there we rumors going on that the PC version is getting delayed by 2 weeks... :ranting2:

If the steam price is reasonable I might cancel my play.com pre-order to get the game faster.

Edit: Nice page to follow http://www.infinityward.com/index.php They got all the trailers there in HQ and more info.

Pc release delayed in europe?

http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/index.php/pc/pc-news/3220-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-delayed-on-pc

Quote from: GhostMjr;291977Pc release delayed in europe?

http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/index.php/pc/pc-news/3220-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-delayed-on-pc

I have been following this pretty closely, and now it even seems that also the consoles is getting delayed, but there is still NO OFFICIAL announcement about it. Not even when there is a 140 pages thread on IW site, people asking about it. So we just need to wait and see...

And what people are thinking:
MS payed a lot to get Xbox the exclusivity on showing the game, hence the bad quality on demos(might have even payed the head start like Batman had).
If it is delayed only in Europe it doesn't make sence, but if all the pc versions are getting delayed it starts to look like it is a console ported and that basically screws the whole game. And the most annoying thing in whole this is that there is nothing said in the last 48h, which is pretty pathetic.

Loads of new footage here:

http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/74?sd=0&ch=3

use the chapters down the bottom to skip to the modern warefare specific chapters :D

http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=114522&start=3840

385 pages of people asking is the PC version going to be delayed. And not even a single response from IW ....

And when rumours started to travel about xbox being delayed with also one fake picture about a confersation with a IW worker emerged it got shot down in a matter of hours. Equal love eh ?


Most interesting thing I have read to this point was the speculations about MW2 not having dedicated servers, but a matchmaking like xbox. Let's just hope that ain't true.

What I want to know is are you guys going to ditch COD4 when this comes out?

As I am just starting to get back into COD4 once I get used to using the Nt52e which I tried and failed with last night lol

Quote from: Zootoxin;292752What I want to know is are you guys going to ditch COD4 when this comes out?

As I am just starting to get back into COD4 once I get used to using the Nt52e which I tried and failed with last night lol

I'm sure there will be lots playing COD4 for a while to come.

Imho Cod4 is too good a game to abandon overnight
but if mw2 lives up to its billing then i'm sure that it will be adopted as a supported game at some point

but untill that point cod4 rules:yahoo:

Quote from: delankster;292767Imho Cod4 is too good a game to abandon overnight
but if mw2 lives up to its billing then i'm sure that it will be adopted as a supported game at some point

but untill that point cod4 rules:yahoo:

Agreed.

Arm what are you planning with regard to servers for mw2?

It's another chance for us to get new members

If MW2 lives up to the billing it should be a straight replacement for cod4. Not an overnight replacement. But i can't see running COD4 and MW2 servers simultaneously will help server populations.

Lots of controversy around the game with delays, price hikes, etc.

The console version looks like it's now going to have a RRP of Ã,£55 and there's a collectors edition that comes in at Ã,£120 with NV goggles.

It has been confirmed that MW2 will not be late for pc :yahoo:

BUT

It has no Dedicated servers..... http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121800


There goes my preorder out of the window :byebye:

They have a lot of experience with multiplayer so I would imagine they know what they're doing performance wise, but there are a host of non-performance related issues with not having dedicated servers.

How do you play with your friends?
How do you play with enforced modified rules (No nade spamming etc)

Enough said...

QuoteWell it looks like I won't be buying COD:MW2 after all, save your bucks folks this is a dead fish! IW released info today in an interview that they will be making major changes to the game that have resulted in a huge **** storm on the IW forum and could be a signal of sad things to come.

No dedicated servers - Instead they will use their own listening servers AKA P2P much like OFP: DR did upon its release, and many people can tell you what a FAIL system that is. Hey guess what else they thought of you can only customize the server if you host a private session; how innovative! -FACEPALM- MW2 will also rely heavily on a match making system that copies those on Xbox Live. _Inserts pencils in eyes_

Punk Buster will be dropped for VAC and the game will tie in to Steam, yes that giant hunk of bloated STEAMing dog shh excuse for a game sales / Social fail company.

Also they mentioned they will not be releasing mod tools which means NO custom maps and zero mods. YAY!

Their excuse oh I mean "reason" for these poor choices is that they thought they were "innovative" and ground breaking for the PC platform, they believe these changes will even the playing field for noobs, oops I mean "all players" and create a fun experience. The interviewee also said that "the PC will be getting the exact same game as consoles", yea just what we want.

I honestly can say I now believe that PC gaming is dieing and its happening quick. I didn't want to believe it when in the last 4 years more and more people said the PC was a dieing platform, even some developers admitted that they too thought we had reached the end of an era. The evidence just keeps piling up and I really can't ignore it anymore, if you look back at 90% or so of the games released in the last few years its hard to deny because they are all just console ports filled with bugs and lack of support for the PC platform. Highly rated releases are becoming more rare with only one or two games a year worthy of being purchased and replayed. I will never buy a console even though I grew up on them, I just can't accept them as a legitimate online gaming experience so I will give up gaming before I will even consider purchasing one of those over priced mini computers.

There have been many excuses for this shift in the market with the largest and most inaccurate stating that piracy is ruining game sales on the PC. The dirty secret here is that console also suffer from a large amount of piracy and a larger used games market as well, thus you are left with the two true reasons for this slow death.

1 Their is a larger player base on the console market for any platform, many people don't have the money or the knowledge to build a PC capable of running newly released games at high visual quality and good frame rates. Most people don't understand the PC gaming niche because they are like me and grew up playing an NES or similar and thus they have never even really thought of gaming on a PC. Related to the previous example and the one base that makes up the majority are all the preteens/teens that can't afford a PC so their parents buy them an xbox and call it a day.

2. Money, Money, and Money; period - The mark up on console games is much higher than that of PC games historically, while PC games usually sold for $30-40 console games have sold in the $50-70 for many years now. PC game developers have tryed to artificially inflate PC game prices in the last several years and it is now common to see new releases retail for $50-60, heck MW2 is 59.99.

Quote from IW forums.

Well for a start I don't agree with all he said. VAC in my opinion is about 5E9 (5 Billion) times better than punk buster. I've never once been kicked off by VAC. Punkbuster kicks people off for whatever, whenever. If all these people are cheating then it just means punkbuster isn't banning them well enough because they're getting back on servers where they could ruin peoples games, and if they aren't it's unacceptable to be kicked (I've been kicked before and haven't modded anything). Steam will also hopefully control the server browser so you can join a game with someone from your steam friends.

As for the PC market dying it's simply not true. Yes many of the same games are released on console and PC now, but they are very different games. Just look at Farcry 2. On a console the graphics are a pile of crap (saw it on a PS3 and Xbox), on the PC it's stunning. The save system is different and there are other changes throughout. Basically they port from the PC to the console, or at least do some major reworking of the engine before releasing.

Prices of PC games hasn't been going up especially. I just got L4D 2 for Ã,£20, L4D 1 Ã,£20 (both pre-orders). The only time I've every seen a console game beat PC in terms of price was assasin's creed. I think it cost me over Ã,£5 on steam, whereas on the PS3 it had been out long enough to go platinum and be cheaper.

As for non-dedicated servers killing the game we'll see. I was planning on waiting to see the steam price before making any decisions but if it's a steam game I might look at what the best prices are.

Quote from: Lexander;293022BUT

It has no Dedicated servers..... http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121800

What are they thinking or is it just a rushed release and they don't have the time to get it working!? :sideways:

Quote from: T-Bag;293041As for non-dedicated servers killing the game we'll see.

Would you have ever started playing CS with a matchmaking system ? And that basically means high pings and random players. How about mods, no there are not going to be any. How about clan matches or competitions.... no not those either. Dedicated servers are pretty much that defines online playing.
Now we get something like 6vs6 with random publics that can be anywhere from terrible to wonderful, no control over mature game play or rules.
If anyone wants know how this is going to look like try the new Operation Flashpoint and its "awesome" MP.

And for Whitey, I would say it is the money. MS played a lot to get marketing privileges and IW seems to have made a console game. And their equal love to PC players is a port from console(Now think about the graphics, controls.. what is the difference?) with a MP without dedicated servers and no Mod tools, is that right ?

Edit: And now IW forums are down, seems like I'm not the only one disliking this.

Taken from the 141st:
 
Online Petition for Dedicated Files

This probably wont come to anything but if you are remotely ****ed off about Modern Warfare 2 NOT having dedicated server files, please add your name to this online petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_pe...d.cgi?dedis4mw (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw)


I would also urge as many people as possible to CANCEL their pre-orders.

If IW become aware the millions of people ARE cancelling their orders, their share holders will get upset and this might make a difference

Quote from: Whitey;293042What are they thinking or is it just a rushed release and they don't have the time to get it working!? :sideways:

That was my thought. Get the money making going ASAP and then do the dedicated server and other stuff later. From an economic perspective that does make some sense... albeit the hardcore part of the fans would be unhappy.

The game is set for release primo November (well AFAIK) and I know they would want to make the xmas sales. Perhaps making the dedicated servers etc. would endanger making that release date? With music you usually want to start selling no later than mid-october to be sure to get most of the xmas sales... my 2c.

Quote from: delanvital;293046the hardcore part of the fans would be unhappy.

You should check out Iw's forums, it is getting hammered right now :roflmao:
Actually pretty fun stuff! And for the right cause.

NOT IMPRESSED !! :sideways:

When i posted about the petition, it had 4900 signatures, it now already has 9600 :blink:

Quote from: Snokio;293071When i posted about the petition, it had 4900 signatures, it now already has 9600 :blink:

Almost 11k now, it is getting so many signatures in a minute!
I have also read that big communities have cancelled their pre-orders, so IW really shot them self in the leg with this one.

I was the 11,960th! :)

Quote from: Lexander;293075shot them self in the leg with this one.

Foot. :)

A few boycott groups have appeared on steam:
 
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BOYCOTTMW2?action=join
 
 
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wewantdedicatedMW2?action=join

Quote from: Doorman;293083Foot. :)

Well you are right, my bad :D

And to other news: http://www.fragland.net/news/Modern-Warfare-2-gets-crippled-PC-multiplay/21445/

22713 Total Signatures and counting

It seems IW have deleted the petition forum thread (http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121918). Something soviet about that. :angry:

43000 and still going....what's the betting this isn't worth the paper it's written....wait a sec.

It won't change anything, but it feels good to vent anger out onto the internet :ranting2:

They are already making a map pack that is due to release next spring.
Paying from map-packs on PC ftw ??

Quote from: Doorman;293121It seems IW have deleted the petition forum thread (http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121918). Something soviet about that. :angry:

That is shameful indeed. At least let people express resentment. Soviet and DDR-ish indeed.

Well I was going to preorder this the other week, seems pretty clear now though: if you love PC gaming then the only thing you can do is boycott this tragedy of a game. :(

Either way the PC market is going to get screwed though - if people buy it, they'll claim it's a sign that PC gamers want this kind of console system - if not, they'll claim poor sales indicate a dying market and use it as an excuse to shaft us with even less support next time.

Quote from: b00n;293157Well I was going to preorder this the other week, seems pretty clear now though: if you love PC gaming then the only thing you can do is boycott this tragedy of a game. :(

Either way the PC market is going to get screwed though - if people buy it, they'll claim it's a sign that PC gamers want this kind of console system - if not, they'll claim poor sales indicate a dying market and use it as an excuse to shaft us with even less support next time.

A tad off-topic: If what keeps so many from us leaving Windows, is gaming, why is Microsoft so interested in moving gaming to the consoles? Better short-term profit? With cloud-computing, netbooks on various others OS's, phones running Android and Symbian etc...

Just listened to the "Fourzerotwo (iw moderator)  interview" on the BASHANDSLASH webcast (http://bashandslash.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=746&Itemid=69) and its not all bad news
Here are the snippets:

We're doing a lot on the backend to make the game accessible for everyone.
 There is no delay for the PC version of MW2
 There's prestige mode
  Jason West at the MP event, said that he was dead on, on the matchmaking servers. We've been building a system on the backend called IW.NET.
 You are completely reliant on IW.NET. There are no server lists. There are no dedicated servers.
 You have private matches where you can customize the game
 You cannot put MW2 on a dedicated server.
 This is the first time we've ever done something like this and the team has huge plans for what IW.NET develops into.
Customizing your game...you have quite a few options in a private match
You're getting same game (as in Console), plus matchmaking and private match.
Server admin point-of view, NO DEDICATED SERVERS

from what i gather we will be able to run PRIVATE matches, invite dmw members to it,  will be able customise the game to our needs (perks..respawn time... helli's...etc)
but these PRiIVATE matches would be run from your own pc.
they were saying it may be posible to run these games from a server with a graphics card installed, but only time will tell if this is case.

intresting inteview :g:

Ahh well the dream looked good, order canceld

Quote from: delankster;293166Just listened to the "Fourzerotwo (iw moderator)  interview"

I'v seen the key points on that too. But http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=125736

And having tried the almost same system in OFP : DR that they are going to use in MW2, it is not a good system I can say that :sideways:

Also one thing is that this IW.net that we need to use to be able to play is probably going to be in USA, so what about the lag and when a Malysian player connects with 4k ping what happends then ?

very good point, but i would think they would have to have iw.net servers all round the globe or it just would work  :eyebrow:

Infinity Ward have upset someone very badly. WARNING! NOT FOR KIDDIES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w&feature=player_embedde)
You won't believe the language! :lmfao:

Quote from: Doorman;293177Infinity Ward have upset someone very badly. WARNING! NOT FOR KIDDIES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w&feature=player_embedde)
You won't believe the language! :lmfao:

I never, ever thought I'd find myself agreeing with Hitler :lmfao::roflmao:

That is awesome and pretty much right :roflmao:
I just couldn't dare to post it earlier.

:roflmao: nice find. They sure move quick!

Quote from: Doorman;293177Infinity Ward have upset someone very badly. WARNING! NOT FOR KIDDIES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w&feature=player_embedde)
You won't believe the language! :lmfao:

:roflmao:

Will we be able to play people on-line who purchase it on other gaming systems (xbox360 and ps3)?

don't think so

Quote from: DarkAngel;293185Will we be able to play people on-line who purchase it on other gaming systems (xbox360 and ps3)?

Ohh if only can you imagine the slaughter it would be. I would just run out with a knfie

Quote from: BrotherTobious;293190Ohh if only can you imagine the slaughter it would be. I would just run out with a knfie

That would be a sight to see :roflmao:
You vs hundreds of angry console kids!

oh dont tease me Lex dont tease

Not worth buying a dumbed down game just to own console gamers. You already do that by pointing out the prices and performance.

Quote from: Doorman;293177Infinity Ward have upset someone very badly. WARNING! NOT FOR KIDDIES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w&feature=player_embedde)
You won't believe the language! :lmfao:

Great find! :roflmao:
 
67k signatures now :D (I predicted 32K around this time yesterday, boy was I wrong, there were lots more pee'd off people out there than I first anticipated)

I just signed and I was 75000 and something:D

Quote from: Lexander;292751 (http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=114522&start=3840)


Most interesting thing I have read to this point was the speculations about MW2 not having dedicated servers, but a matchmaking like xbox. Let's just hope that ain't true.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/modern-warfare-pc-dedicated-servers,8882.html

Quote from: kregoron;293252http://www.tomshardware.com/news/modern-warfare-pc-dedicated-servers,8882.html

Kreg you should read all the posts :norty:

lol yeah my bad :D

At least L4D 2 ****ed people off loads at first but had time to try and sway them back round. It seems IW waited till everyone had got their pre-orders in and then tried to slip it under the radar and had it blow up in their face.

Not one of those comments has even said "Go easy on them" let alone "this decision has help me decide to purchase this game"

91738 Total Signatures :blink:

Quote from: delankster;29329191738 Total Signatures :blink:

And over 30 pages of big and small clans informing that they have cancelled their pre-orders. Also one fun fact is that follow the Amazon's(UK, USA, Canada etc) top 100 list, MW2 is dropping like a stone there :lmfao:

LOL they are now getting around 100 sigs a minute!!! 95953

Quote from: Lexander;293297And over 30 pages of big and small clans informing that they have cancelled their pre-orders. Also one fun fact is that follow the Amazon's(UK, USA, Canada etc) top 100 list, MW2 is dropping like a stone there :lmfao:

That is really interesting. I was not sure how much all this cancelling stuff + petioin would matter, but since the youtube vid and various sites covering the dedicated-server problem it seems to have caught on, probably partly due to that petition. Awesome :)

QuoteSubmitted by Matt Jackson on October 20, 2009 ââ,¬â€œ 2:17 pmOne Comment

With over 90,000 fans petitioning against the new service it went down like a WMD. Thankfully for PC gamers its got Infinity Wardââ,¬â,,¢s lugs feeling the singe.

On the petition Infinity Wardââ,¬â,,¢s Robert Bowling said via Twitter that it:ââ,¬ÂDefinitely made a big wave, and the response will not be ignored. Iââ,¬â,,¢ll ensure everyone at IW sees the petitions and responses to it.ââ,¬Â


Via [A2kclan, thanks CVG]

hopefully its good news

Petition is over 100k now. :D

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx

I don't think I can find a smiley that shows my true thoughts about that response.

edit: Or this http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745

Seriously, are they mentally retarded ?

last one out of infinity ward, turn the lights out :sad:

Well unless this setup changes I won't be buying the game.
I am only interested in gaming WITHIN the dMw community so won't be matchmaking with anyone.
I only wish I had pre-ordered so that I could pre-cancel and at least feel like IW know they've lost me:angry:

Yawn. Everything they're saying just seems to indicate they don't care and think the increase in price of the pc version paid by n00bs will offset the disgruntled gamers.

extract from zerofourtwo's blog
Playlists and Private Matches: As I described above, Playlists are pre-set game modes and gametypes for public games.
If you just want to jump into a public game of Search and Destroy or Hardcore Search and Destroy
 and you donââ,¬â,,¢t care about fully customizing it, then you can utilize playlists to do that quickly for you.
However, say youââ,¬â,,¢re in a clan and you want to play a Clan match with another team, or you want to practice for an upcoming
tournament that has specific rules in a private game. Then you can start a Private Match (which is essentially like running your own private server)
where you have complete control over the rules, who can join, boot players you donââ,¬â,,¢t want, and essentially control the entire game or tweak it to your
liking. Once the rules are set, you can invite the other team in or just start it up with your clan to practice with the custom rules before the match.
This now allows you to play custom games out of the box without the need to install mods, find a modded server with the rules you like,
or worry about not being in control of the match.

Party System and Friendslist: Modern Warfare 2 on PC also makes it much easier if you want to party up with your friends, or again, with your clan for a match.
You can utilize the friendslist to see when your friends are online, and invite them to your Party. A Party allows you to move from game to game as a group. Itââ,¬â,,¢s great for clan matches,
because you can party of with your clan and move from public game to public game together. Or if youââ,¬â,,¢re doing a scrim, party up and invite the
other clan (who is in a party) and theyââ,¬â,,¢ll all join at once. Set up a private match together and play. It makes setting up scrims or games with friends easier and hassle free.

i still think this game might have something to offer dMw
as allready said by blunt the majority of my gaming is also done within the confines of our communnity
but untill the iw.net system is rolled out we won't no for sure if the system will work for our needs as a communnity.
i for one would still like to try it and see if it does :2cents:

You know that those private games are run by your own computer and connection ? So the who starts it acts as a host to others.

yeah i have heard that but its not been confirmed from infinity ward how it will work yet.

Quote from: delankster;293398i still think this game might have something to offer dMw
as allready said by blunt the majority of my gaming is also done within the confines of our communnity
but untill the iw.net system is rolled out we won't no for sure if the system will work for our needs as a communnity.
i for one would still like to try it and see if it does :2cents:

The cracks are appearing. Don't weaken bruv. United we stand, divided we buy consoles! :sideways:

I just don't want to play like a console player, and pay for DLC's, maps or anything. If I wanted that I would play on console... And without mods and competitive playing the game will suffer a lot. Who remembers or even knows FEAR2 MP ?
CS/CS:S is an OLD game and what would you think is it's secret of staying alive ?

i agree totally with what your saying

i have cancelled my pre-order and i won't be rushing out to buy it just yet, but saying that i am still a little curious as to how the whole iw.net thingy will work.
 
so once its been out a while and the verdict is in, then i'll make my own mind up weather it worth spashing my well earned cash on it :flirty:

Once it's out I'll be 'reloading' my page furiously and making sure I'm keeping my sharpened wits about me like a 'Razor'. That's what I may have done last time and I bought it once I'd been convinced it was a worthwhile investment.

Im not sure to either buy it on the pc or ps3 :sad:

I do hope they change their minds.....

Quote from: GhostMjr;270184Unless they improve key security by locking it to a single account like BF2 i will give this one a miss. Having your key sitting in the registry is simply unexusable. Also if you buy the game and your key is hijacked activision refuse to give you a new key as there key warehouse is in a seperate building. Therefore if you want another copy stump up the full price again.

Buy with Steam. I have a receipt and an account it locks too. It's not transferable so if it stops working they've got no choice but to issue a key.

If this is true, MP is just like OFP: DR and is just doesn't work that well.

http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=130678


Edit: Finally someone says something smart: http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=130762

if thats the case then mw2 is a dead duck :crying:

no offence ducky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cl-RdtSc1U  :lmfao:

Quote from: delankster;293509if thats the case then mw2 is a dead duck :crying:

no offence ducky

Now what the heck! why harras ducks all of a sudden! WE LIKE DEDICATED SERVERS!

I dont see this game becoming a success, honestly.. If you hump a player base this bad, they just move on to other alternatives.. and there are plenty

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Quote from: kregoron;293523Now what the heck! why harras ducks all of a sudden! WE LIKE DEDICATED SERVERS!

I dont see this game becoming a success, honestly.. If you hump a player base this bad, they just move on to other alternatives.. and there are plenty

COD 4 is probably their biggest rival, and will whoop it's ass for some time to come unless they stop assuming pc gamers are drooling console gamers who just prefer a higher resolution and a mouse.

Quote from: Doorman;293526[SIZE=+6]128909 and counting
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I think you need to adjust the resolution on that new PC of yours :bleh:

Quote from: kregoron;293523Now what the heck! why harras ducks all of a sudden!

ducks deserve it, with there web feet, feathers and everything :sideways:







appart from your oh lamey one:flirty:

Quote from: delanvital;293556I think you need to adjust the resolution on that new PC of yours :)

Yeah, that was a copy/paste and I couldn't be arsed to mess about with it. :narnar:

Pre-order cancelled...
133829 signatures total.

God you guys can't read.....:rolleyes:
 
It's 136559 Total Signatures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfTR8PBrsE&feature=channel

Where is that guy when we needed him the most! :crying:

Quote from: Lexander;293633http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfTR8PBrsE&feature=channel

Where is that guy when we needed him the most! :crying:

Im quessing this guy shot himself in the head when he saw whats happening with MW2.

Now available for pre-purchase on Steam. I wonder if it'll make the top-sellers list.

L4D 2 is #2. And I think valve has earned that place by continuous honesty with the customer and information about the game. Yes it's too soon, yes there hasn't been enough DLC for the original yet. But they haven't turned round and made people cancel their pre-orders weeks from launch.

EDIT: Refreshed and it's #5. Doing well for a Ã,£35 game.

I am tempted to buy this.

For two reasons:

• Theres a game drought currently with few "decent high profile" games out
• I really enjoyed the last one

I know its alot of money and the server issues but if you put it in perspective the wow players among us pay Ã,£8 a month roughly maybe even more.

Even if you played this for 3 months solidly it would be what you would pay for wow.

I am going to grab it on steam shortly as its going to be integrated by valve as they have just signed a huge deal with activision to allow steam integration via steamworks.

Now valve will try i would imagine to get everything sorted as i discussed with OB and TL at the lan so hopefully they might sort out the dedicated server fiasco.

As if they don't they will be dealing with alot of angry pc gamers.

Its not a sunken ship yet and i'd love it to be a game we can play both at the lan and as a community.

I admire your optimism but sadly I don't share it.  I don't see Valve having much sway with Activision. :sideways:

I hope I'm wrong but I won't be holding my breath to find out...

I am with Boon here mate I dont see it ever changing, the single player will be a chuckle but I dont think it will be worth the Ã,£50 for it.  My money is staying in m pocket for the moment.

Quote from: BrotherTobious;294083I am with Boon here mate I dont see it ever changing, the single player will be a chuckle but I dont think it will be worth the Ã,£50 for it.  My money is staying in m pocket for the moment.

Word. Lack of server support pretty much kills the MP aspect stone dead for me.

I might pick up a copy if/when it hits the Ã,£20 mark as  I judge a SP only game to be worth that, but for now I'm going to leave well alone.

60€ for 5 to 6h single player, do the math.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/battlefield-keeping-dedicated-servers

- nice to see Dice slating IW decision if not directly :narnar: and interesting to note game developers are watching the fallout of this fiasco. Long term it may be a good thing - make developers think twice about porting stuff over from consoles with little thought to the needs of pc users.

Quote from: GhostMjr;294073As if they don't they will be dealing with alot of angry pc gamers.

There's nothing for them to deal with if you've already bought it.

Quote from: b00n;294077I admire your optimism but sadly I don't share it. I don't see Valve having much sway with Activision. :sideways:
 
I hope I'm wrong but I won't be holding my breath to find out...

 
What he said!!
 
Great shame as I would of loved to of purchased it, but with the middle finger pointed squarely at the PC users, I wont be rushing ...yet :sad:

Ok it was Ã,£34.99 on steam but now its Ã,£34.99 only for preorder.

After its released its going up to Ã,£39.99

I doubt we will ever see it on weekend only as cod 4 has only just this weekend gone weekend only for the first time!

Well i might be wrong as it may have been discounted last xmas

Quote from: GhostMjr;294910Ok it was Ã,£34.99 on steam but now its Ã,£34.99 only for preorder.

After its released its going up to Ã,£39.99

I doubt we will ever see it on weekend only as cod 4 has only just this weekend gone weekend only for the first time!

Well i might be wrong as it may have been discounted last xmas

I'll have some of what he's been having. :norty:

Quote from: GhostMjr;294910Ok it was Ã,£34.99 on steam but now its Ã,£34.99 only for preorder.

After its released its going up to Ã,£39.99

I doubt we will ever see it on weekend only as cod 4 has only just this weekend gone weekend only for the first time!

Well i might be wrong as it may have been discounted last xmas

I picked it up in the January steam sales. I think this sale is Ã,£1 cheaper or so.

As for the price of MW 2 going up on steam I'm not too fussed. It's tied into steam so I'll buy it where ever it's cheapest once they add dedicated server support.

Quote from: T-Bag;294917once they add dedicated server support.

yup, that's most of us:sideways::sideways:

Quote from: Blunt;294918yup, that's most of us:sideways::sideways:

Yeah, the high price doesn't put me off all that much, but that's a deal breaker. Funny where we end up drawing the line isn't it. The first game is still worth Ã,£30 (If my copy stopped working I'd pay Ã,£30 for a new one) so I've not problems dishing Ã,£35 for a shiny new version if I could play with my friends hassle free.

Preordered on coolshop as its only 24.99 and due to steamworks it can be entered into steam.

Should be arriving early next week :D

Can't wait :)

Quote from: Snokio;293609God you guys can't read.....:rolleyes:
 
It's 136559 Total Signatures

Still going - [SIZE=+6]179477 Total Signatures[/SIZE]

Quote from: GhostMjr;295188Preordered on coolshop as its only 24.99 and due to steamworks it can be entered into steam.

Should be arriving early next week :D

Can't wait :)

Splitter!!!

Quote from: Benny;294108There's nothing for them to deal with if you've already bought it.

Ghosty, if you are gagging for the game fair enough, but if everyone thinks 'what the hell, I'll get it anyway' then nothing will change.

Personally I won't 'buy' it until it offers dedicated servers or an alternate way of running it for our community.

Basically....Wot he said ^^^ :angry:

Quote from: Benny;295196Ghosty, if you are gagging for the game fair enough, but if everyone thinks 'what the hell, I'll get it anyway' then nothing will change.

Personally I won't 'buy' it until it offers dedicated servers or an alternate way of running it for our community.

I see your point and do agree.

However, i feel theres nothing really coming out this side (except LFD2) or next side of Christmas so thats why i am grabbing it to keep me entertained aswell as taking advantage of the cheap price.

The singleplayer should be worth at least Ã,£15 so we'll see about the multiplayer and i'll report back.

aw, we haven't had a good discussion for ages!!!..../sleeves.

So, it's ok to wear clothes made in sweat shops if there's no Leo Gemmeli cardigans in Burtons that I like, just to tide me through?

I'm only half serious fella, your best argument would be, "bugger off, I'll buy what I like with your tax money my hard earned cash" ;)

Ghost - have you tried Borderlands? Me, Ranger, Magnus and Paddy have been having a blast on coop (4 player) - even SP is fun. Highly recommend it if your desperate for a good fun game to play.

Quote from: Doorman;295204Basically....Wot he said ^^^ :angry:

And what he said!!!
 

Quote from: Dewey;295232Ghost - have you tried Borderlands? Me, Ranger, Magnus and Paddy have been having a blast on coop (4 player) - even SP is fun. Highly recommend it if your desperate for a good fun game to play.

 
I'm only hearing good things about this, If there is a demo available, I will defo try it out!

Quote from: GhostMjr;295222I see your point and do agree.

However, i feel theres nothing really coming out this side (except LFD2) or next side of Christmas so thats why i am grabbing it to keep me entertained aswell as taking advantage of the cheap price.

The singleplayer should be worth at least Ã,£15 so we'll see about the multiplayer and i'll report back.

The single player from the other recent games hasn't been worth Ã,£15. I don't know why you think this will be different.

As for entertainment there are plenty of better games to tide you over with. Since the game is steamworks (as I told you before) the cheaper price isn't a big deal as you have to use steam to play it, and Ã,£35 is the price that all the retailers are charging.

Dedicated servers are one of the things I said should be part of the "Template" for deciding if we consider a game, and till it gets them I don't think this will be a dmw game. Hopefully even without dedicated servers you'll have a bit more flexibility than L4D in choosing servers but I think you could wind up with it being a pain to find a good server each time you play.

Quote from: T-Bag;295255The single player from the other recent games hasn't been worth Ã,£15. I don't know why you think this will be different.

Quick, watch me switch sides with impunity.

The single player in CoD4 was worth Ã,£15 IMHO. One of the best single player games in years. HL2 was crap by the way.

Just bought mw2 :)

Lets hope they change their minds on dedicated servers....

So many people willing to sell our beloved PC gaming down the river makes me sad... :crying:

Quote from: DarkAngel;295267Lets hope they change their minds on dedicated servers....

Sadly they won't. They want to make that IW.net thing and there is no way they would drop it and change to dedicated servers as PC is the start of all evil, even if we haven't even seen a single screen shot from the game on PC and xbox version has already leaked out over a week ago and MS has banned many many people. But yeah PC is evil....

Quote from: Benny;295263Quick, watch me switch sides with impunity.

The single player in CoD4 was worth Ã,£15 IMHO. One of the best single player games in years. HL2 was crap by the way.

HL2:Ep 2 was worth Ã,£15, HL2 + Ep1 combined maybe worth Ã,£7-8 if I'm being generous, which is about what I'd value CoD4, fairly good but far too short.
Far Cry 2 is an example of the length a single player game should be to be justified in selling it for Ã,£15+ without a decent multiplayer.

Even at student rates a trip to the cinema to see a film (2hours entertainment) is Ã,£5ish. So Ã,£15 is 3 trips = 6 Hours (which is longer than CoD 4 6 hours single player campaign), Ã,£15 would buy me 9-10 Pints etc.
Multiplayer on the other hand is vast, I've play more than I care to think about. I'd happily pay Ã,£30-35 on just the multiplayer.

MW2 appears to be matching the length of the original which as I said for me means no sale without MP.

They had another interview with IW about MC2 does anyone else get the feeling that IW just dont give a flying poo about PC gamers anymore?

Also the last question and reponse sent a shiver up my spine!

http://digg.com/d3198lz

For anyone who has more money than sense and is still considering buying this poo, here's some choice snippets from this newest Q&A:

QuoteQ: Please give me a direct answer. On the PC version. Are all games hosted by players, and is there a 5 second delay when host migration is in effect? (ie. when the host of a game drops and another has to be chosen and take up control of the game).
Vince-IW: yes.

Q: Is there lean in PC multiplayer?
Vince-IW: No.

Q: Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?
Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.

Oh Infinity Ward, with this mouse control you are really spoiling us!

And finally the cherry on the cake:

QuoteWhat kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

Welcome to 1996! :D

Quote from: b00n;295348For anyone who has more money than sense and is still considering buying this poo, here's some choice snippets from this newest Q&A:

Oh noes :blink: I think the Q's presented IWs approach to PC-gaming quite well. It smells like they don't know what PC gaming is about.

This says it all
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4069/mw2b.jpg)
If you buy it after seeing this then you need your head looking at

Ouch.

When you compare it side by side with COD4 like that, MW2 takes quite a kicking.

It won't stop IW from making a metric-s**tload of money though :(

Just moved two posts, nothing wrong with them, I'm not being power hungry...

I'm gonna kick this off else where...to get this one back on track, plus I reckon its a great thread starter....If you want your posts, you'll find them over here Feeling the love (http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=29391)

Thanks Benny!

I just realised that they charge €60 for the game on Steam. 60?! I know, it is brand new n all, but that is 5-10 euros too much. Even less of a reason to get it...

Multiple digital distributors to boykot MW2

LUL (http://kotaku.com/5398259/online-retailers-refusing-to-sell-modern-warfare-2-refusing-to-sell-modern-warfare-2)

You can't choose to which server you join? so no use buying it...

Quote from: kregoron;295484Multiple digital distributors to boykot MW2

LUL (http://kotaku.com/5398259/online-retailers-refusing-to-sell-modern-warfare-2-refusing-to-sell-modern-warfare-2)

You know lul is the Dutch word for weener don't you? :roflmao:

Quote from: Gaara;295548You know lul is the Dutch word for weener don't you? :roflmao:

actually no.. probably as i dont speak dutch.. and you chaps are just too weird ;)

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/11/pc-modern-warfare-2-its-much-worse-than-you-thought.ars

I would say, avoid it like a plague! (All who have read the article: http://static.arstechnica.com/nbfl-tower.jpg)


Edit: I think we have a savior http://www.gametrailers.com/video/africa-harbour-battlefield-bad/58728

Edit2: As I'm spamming one more thing, this guy is a a legend: http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/battlefield_5F00_bad_5F00_company/Check_5F00_Blog01.jpg

I think if they haven't added dedicated servers to MW 2 by the time the new Battlefield comes out people will stop caring and spend their money on that. I love Battlefield 2 way back when broadband was optional, I had it but some of the ping you could see then were incredible), if they make the new one half as fun then we've got a new game for DMW.

Top Article was a good one, explained things well and really showed how much IW are out of touch with the PC gamers.
 
What interests me also was how they were saying that there will be a 5 second delay to find a better host if the originator leaves, of which you can not opt out! so depending on your ISP, you might be breaching your T&C's, not to mention the host has a ping advantage :sideways:.
 
This, taken from Lex's link, shows how much input they have put into the PC version:
 
   "Moriarte: Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?

Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.This is the amount of work that went into the PC version: you are given the ability to use a mouse, to use text chat, and to adjust graphical settings. Are your fears now put to rest?"
 
I for one am not going to buy it until they pull their finger out and fix it! :ranting2:

That comment really destroyed them :roflmao:
All over the interwebs people are falling apart due to that comment.
PC HAS MOUSE SUPPORT! Who would have guessed :lmfao:

bet they spent mega $$$ on developing that feature :sideways:

What about keyboard support?! :blink:

L4D2 is looking like the best buy ever in comparison to MW2... (hint hint, buy it instead!)

Quote from: Snokio;295598bet they spent mega $$$ on developing that feature :sideways:

Hey I just noticed we have the mouse support on these forums !

Some say IW have reinvented the mouse!

IW needs to reinvent the brain for their developing division.
Since im quessing they are just gona dig their grave pit into a bottomless hole if this kinda of responses are gona come out of IW:roflmao::lmfao:.
And it might even help them realise that dedicate servers are the only thing that made MW what it is today.

Just got back from university graduation and modern warfare 2 is sitting on my desk a pc dvd version ready to install.

Oh yes :D

retail copy requires steam to install btw

Quote from: GhostMjr;295621Just got back from university graduation and modern warfare 2 is sitting on my desk a pc dvd version ready to install.

Oh yes :D

retail copy requires steam to install btw

Have to wait till official launch date to activate the game.

What a bugger :(

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1015636

Another punch in the face from IW there for you scotty :)

Ill let you know tomorrow what the games like :byebye:

Its pre-loading now :D

Quote from: DarkAngel;295753Ill let you know tomorrow what the games like :byebye:

Its pre-loading now :D

This is what the game is like: http://www.modernwarfail2.com/

Wouldn't know, didn't buy.  Give dedicated server.

Things I have learned this far:
-9vs9 is a lie, it only applies to certain maps so most is 6vs6
-People are need to open insane amounts of ports in routers to be able to connect to IW.NET
-You can't change map on your own
-after the install you have hight change of getting a pixel mess on your screen
-This is the lag http://marius.webconexion.co.uk/dayone.png
-notice that you can't see ping but a fancy latency bar like consoles, in that previous post who might be the host ?
-spec ops doesn't even have ingame text chat

These are from IW's official forums and people are not happy.

Alost 200k signings now :blink:

Thats almost 6 million in lost revenue :blink:

http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=162664

Thats the spirit :lmfao:

I can't understand why they didn't simply say "This is a console game. We won't waste our time or yours releasing it on PC. Thankyou."

Quote from: smilodon;295907I can't understand why they didn't simply say "This is a console game. We won't waste our time or yours releasing it on PC. Thankyou."

What have I understood is that IW wanted to make a console game but Activision forced them to make it to PC also.
A really stupid thing to do, if you think who or what made the IW so successful...

Story mode is still up to COD4 standard but the multiplayer has a very different feel. I actually really like it (have been caught out by a couple of huge lag spikes though!) it's just a different kettle of fish to COD4 multiplayer. Treat each games as it's own beast and you'll enjoy them both.

It's already been leaked onto you-know-what :sideways:

This is very bad news. When IW look at their meagre PC sales (compared to the consoles), they'll claim it looks poor because of piracy - and clearly not the fact that they've screwed over PC gamers and refused to listen to their community.

Sigh.

Quote from: Satch89;295915Story mode is still up to COD4 standard but the multiplayer has a very different feel. I actually really like it (have been caught out by a couple of huge lag spikes though!) it's just a different kettle of fish to COD4 multiplayer. Treat each games as it's own beast and you'll enjoy them both.

Welcome to the forum Satch.
We are a gaming community who enjoy playing games with other community members on our own dedicated servers.
We can set the rules to encourage teamplay and discourage frag-monkeys; we can ban cheaters or the plain obnoxious.
IW has taken that control from us.
I won't buy it until dedicated servers are allowed, and the community won't be adopting it until then either.

:thumbsupsmileyanim:

Well the first non paid for MP reviews are arriving and not nice reading unless perfect connection.

Here (http://www.gamearena.com.au/pc/games/title/modern-warfare-2/reviews.php?id=5033868)

and

Here (http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/games/158267/reviews/134131.Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2)

Magnus :doh:

Had a laugh reading the newspaper today, it seems 50 people bought the game at our local record store around 0.00 in the morning. :roflmao:
They are compairing the game as; The game to have as the Harry Potter book to readers.
 
Welcome to the forums Satch!

Nice vid of how things are going to run nice and smoothly!!

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I would be very very upset if I paid for that!!!

Having a read about the tinkerers are out in the config files already.  The default max ping level is........get ready.....

800  

So no wonder there is a "bit" of lag.  I am so glad I am not getting this game. :D

to quote infinity ward "It's great" :g:

They said that the latency bar systems best ping is around 100-200, so thats a good ping in their opinion... hmm

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/modernwarfare2

Well the day after the release all their hard work has gone into improve the online experience to make it "great" for everyone and stop piracy and hackers and this!!

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That is fast work!  If only IW could make dedi servers as fast as these guys can hack IW net.  I wonder if the hackers will make a dedi server!!! :roflmao:

I've just spent the morning watching my brother playing multiplayer.

 When it works ok its quite good.

 Unfortunately the majority of games are full of lag (even with everyone on three green bars +) Obvious kills don't always register, Host migration pauses the game for 20 secs + at a time (and when it happens three times in a 5 min round its extremely annoying)

 The matchmaking is complete ****, noobs getting put in with people of a rank 30+ higher than themselves, Brits on the same server as Aussies and South Africans (i dread to think what the actual pings were)

 One word to sum it up....  Shambles.

 It really is as **** as every PC gamer feared.  I was looking forward to getting a new CoD game and joining you guys for some killing.  This is the biggest letdown in multiplayer FPS gaming ever.

 ..and the sad thing is they have probably got the biggest selling game of all time on their hands....  it's so overrated it's not funny.   The single player is fun if your into that sort of thing, but it was completed in less than 5.5 hours.

 Very sad indeed.

Quote from: '[BIGmagnus;296011']
That is fast work!  If only IW could make dedi servers as fast as these guys can hack IW net.  I wonder if the hackers will make a dedi server!!! :roflmao:

Quote"Cheat / Hack Free Games: The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you donââ,¬â,,¢t have to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and policing it. Modern Warfare 2 on PC allows us to control the quality of the game much more than ever before as well as utilizing the VAC (Valve-Anti-Cheat) system to keep games clean of hackers and cheaters."

Now what was it ?

Quote from: The Moose;296012I was looking forward to getting a new CoD game and joining you guys for some killing.

get yourself a copy of cod 4 (tiss quiet cheap now) and come join us on the server :boxing:
its still busy most night of the week and by the look of this pile of **** then it could be for some time yet :D

I am this: disappointed. Yes I am :(

Been playing it for a couple of days now and my thoughts:

Single player - an over the top, James Bond style story, but overall holds together well.  Some awesome levels (Boneyard and Ghost) and some terrible on rail pieces, though I imagine one mans meat is another mans poison as to what type you like.

Some good fun fights to be had, story ladled on thick by IW, some nice toys to play with (love the predator) makes this what we love about Call of Duty.

The bad side? Some parts where you only progress by dying and moving a metre, dying again and moving another metre.  The AI isn't reliable in many places to do the job it's supposed to whilst you do yours.  There are also a few bugs where a sudden slow down or crash happen.

Overall well done, fun to play but not a huge leap from CoD4.

Multiplayer - the much lamented part of the game.  

They've made some massive mistakes with no dedicated servers and we all know that, so sadly we've got to go with what we've got... personal servers.  I've not seen any lag so far but each round can take 1-3 minutes to start whilst it finds players which is painful.  The match making also seems slightly flawed when the server I started on yesterday had 9 level 1 players vs 6 level 30+ players and 3 level 1s.  Not overly fair.  I have seen a server change once, which meant the game stopped for 10 seconds and then resumed with a count down; not the worst thing in the world.

The multiplayer maps I've played so far are very good and I've enjoyed playing across them and there are a good few hints to older map elements.  They've made some good changes to the levelling with titles, emblems and power ups coming thick and fast. Things like death streaks (die 3 times without a kill and you get a power up such as copy the persons set up who killed you) are good ideas, along with customisable kill streak options.

My overall thoughts:

A good game, it really is, but the hype and then dedicated server fiasco has tainted it in many peoples eyes. If this had been Generic Shooter Twelve there would have been much applause for it, but built on the back of CoD4 it seems they've given with one hand, but taken back much more with the other.

Should you buy it? Yeah its fun and Call of Duty fun at that, plus it has a silenced Barrett sniper rifle and more things for me to hide from in my ghille suit :)

Quote from: 'Karrde[dg;296030']it has a silenced Barrett sniper rifle

So that's realism completely out the window now then

Well it's 5 years in the future and you have all kinds of cool toys like heart beat monitors and stuff attached to guns.

I just like silenced sniper rifles and always hated CoD4 not having it.

Since having typed up my thoughts earlier I've now had the game crash twice on the loading of the final level (which was bad).

Really enjoying the special ops mode, though Tobious you should be helping me - joint ghille suit stealth mission, dodging other snipers through Chernobyl in one level and another defending against waves of enemies using sniper, claymores and predator drones.

good review Karrde.. ignore the ney-sayers..

Quote from: Blunt;295940Welcome to the forum Satch.
We are a gaming community who enjoy playing games with other community members on our own dedicated servers.
We can set the rules to encourage teamplay and discourage frag-monkeys; we can ban cheaters or the plain obnoxious.
IW has taken that control from us.
I won't buy it until dedicated servers are allowed, and the community won't be adopting it until then either.

And with a post like that.. A potential new member is gone...... :eyebrow:
 
WD that Blunt.. :thumbsup:

so today i decided to spend a few hours testing this out with a m8 who bought it.
Right we loaded up the game and started the multiplayer session and waited for the dating, i mean matchmaking system to find us suitable players, which it didnt, lvl's could have been more spread rangeing from lowest to highest lvl..
Right game on.. So we sat there and ran around for a bit, things looked smooth the first min or so.. But then the evil p2p system hit like a hammer, everyone except the host had ofc the crap ping bar.. (note we were playing on my m8's line which is a 50/50Mbit) Lag became horrible, and then the host left, 20 sec pause... off we go again for a min the next host left.. waiting again..
this went on the for the next 10 mins with 6 different hosts.. horrible..

so lets see past the that experience, game itself.. Im hardly impressed by this game, controlls felt slow reacting, didnt get the fuzz about the graphics as they arent really that good.
and ofc the game is not balanced for lean.. damn i missed taht..

in my book the multiplayer failed..

So i spent the next hour trying the single player..
AI seemed mediocre at best, units often ending up running around doing stuff they really shouldnt.
Again graphics was to hyped.
Again NO LEAN.
Story was okay, but hardly validating the buy..

Honestly, it feels like IW ported COD4 to console, gave the graphics a minor overhaul, messed around with controlls, and ported it back to PC (ofc remembering to add mouse support)

Rating 3/10 mainly for single player being fair, but a game expected to be one of the best for multiplayer it fail miserably.

Quote from: Ninja_Freak;296058And with a post like that.. A potential new member is gone...... :eyebrow:
 
WD that Blunt.. :thumbsup:

Satch is obviously playing MW2 and we as a community are not.
I explained it like it is NF...what's your problem?

Like I said, multiplayer feels completly different to COD4. It caters more for the old school style of run around alot with all guns blazing rather than the more strategic approach of COD4. So you're right there, it is more "solo" multiplayer than community. You can set up a party though and join different servers as one big group. Matchmaking is non-existant though and I have found myself slain by palyers in Spain when a lag spike hits. But that is just nit-picking tbf, its is rae, at least has been thus far.

As a whole Satch, whats the SP like? Better than the last or more of the same?

Quote from: Ninja_Freak;296058And with a post like that.. A potential new member is gone...... :eyebrow:
 
WD that Blunt.. :thumbsup:

I think you miss the point Ninja.  The potential new member will never stumble across dMw as there cannot be a public dMw MW2 server, so there is no potential new member to be lost in the first place.  

The fact that we cannot support (ie provide an admin'd server for) a game is not the same as whether or not people exercise their right to play it.  But let's be honest, if you cannot control who you play with how many potential new dMw members do you think you will obtain by being out there on the MW2 lobby?  Even if you meet someone real nice you'll struggle to meet up with that player again seeing as the lobby will match you up with a new group of people.

I think Blunt was just stating the facts.

Quote from: '[BIGmagnus;296011']Well the day after the release all their hard work has gone into improve the online experience to make it "great" for everyone and stop piracy and hackers and this!!



That is fast work!  If only IW could make dedi servers as fast as these guys can hack IW net.  I wonder if the hackers will make a dedi server!!! :roflmao:

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright complaint by Activision Games Inc"

Nice work Activision. So you're going to put in complaints about every video showing the laggy crap that is the MW2 PC matchmaking system, and all the cheating already going on, to try and stop people finding out about it?

The matchmaking does indeed suck when you have people 20+ levels above the rest of the side dominating.

Though I've found them to be the ones who complain most when they get killed.

Quote from: Benny;296067As a whole Satch, whats the SP like? Better than the last or more of the same?

Personally, I think SP is better in MW2. The missions in Washington a bit dark and samey but other than that great fun. The vehicle levels work well and there is a good variety of stealth/action missions. Its over pretty quickly but the pace fits the story.

Quote from: Satch89;296106Personally, I think SP is better in MW2. The missions in Washington a bit dark and samey but other than that great fun. The vehicle levels work well and there is a good variety of stealth/action missions. Its over pretty quickly but the pace fits the story.

I bet it is a lot better and really fast good action. But really, a 60€ for 4,5h game which is basically without MP. In my eyes IW forgot pc players and should not get a message that we approve it. Or do we want all our games with under 5h gameplay and no MP + extra costs with DLC's ?

Pray what is this lean thing that is such a problem? Is it literally the ability to lean around corners?

Correct.

I can't understand why they've taken it out, it's not like they've replaced it with a different mechanic.

To be honest, I never leaned at all, probably why i kept dying a lot, so I genuinely wouldnt have noticed that one...

Quote from: A Twig;296135To be honest, I never leaned at all, probably why i kept dying a lot, so I genuinely wouldnt have noticed that one...

i never really thought about leaning much, but after trying MW2 i realised how much i really use the feature

I barely use Lean. It's only when I'm in cover that I can't quite see around. Still it makes no sense to remove it. Much like removing the console and support for dedicate servers makes no sense. If the engine was new I can understand things like this but with an "upgrade" from a game with these features I don't see why.

Still with the number of sales they've made they are obviously happy enough not to care about the pc market. Luckily there are enough games for us to be getting along with anyway.

(http://images.cfgfactory.pl/pcmw2.png)


Looks good to me. :roflmao:

The last point on that cover about buying a 360. you won't have to. Just buy the controller and some helium balloons and you can aim and voice chat exactly as if you were playing on a 360, only you'll have superior graphics.

Quote from: Doorman;296203Looks good to me. :roflmao:

:lmfao:Nice find!
 

Quote from: T-Bag;296209The last point on that cover about buying a 360. you won't have to. Just buy the controller and some helium balloons and you can aim and voice chat exactly as if you were playing on a 360, only you'll have superior graphics.

Good idea on the helium balloons :roflmao:

Quote from: Snokio;296288:lmfao:Nice find!
 

 
Good idea on the helium balloons :roflmao:

I used to work in a helium balloon factory, all my colleagues spoke very highly of me:)

Quote from: Blunt;296300I used to work in a helium balloon factory, all my colleagues spoke very highly of me:)

lol. Good job you didn't work in an SF6 factory (google it).

Quote from: TeaLeaf;295838Wouldn't know, didn't buy.  Give dedicated server.

:lmfao:touché

Quote from: Blunt;296300I used to work in a helium balloon factory, all my colleagues spoke very highly of me:)

Arrgh :frusty:

Quote from: Blunt;296300I used to work in a helium balloon factory

...so did I, but I quit!

I didn't like being spoken to in that tone of voice.  :narnar:

Quote from: T-Bag;296308lol. Good job you didn't work in an SF6 factory (google it).

does Skass work with SF6?:blink:

:lmfao:

Quote from: Blunt;296342does Skass work with SF6?:blink:

:lmfao:

I've actually got a bottle in my lab in uni along with liquid nitrogen and a whole pile of other goodies. One day if nobody is looking I might bring a balloon of it back and have some fun with it. Trouble is the bottle is all plumbed in so it's a reasonable amount of work to get any out without contaminating the vacuum.

I finished the single player campaign last night having played over a few evenings. Not impressed really. I wont bother with the next one. If anyone is interested my PS3 version is on ebay, item number is 160378231751.

Quote from: Blunt;296062Satch is obviously playing MW2 and we as a community are not.
I explained it like it is NF...what's your problem?

 
I thought you came across a bit too harsh for the guy's first post..
 
Also, TL your comment is valid and obviously Satch didn't find his way here because of our MW2 support.. Which is exactly why I thought that Blunt's comments were a bit OTT..
 
It wasn't exactly the warm welcome I've come to expect..

I was in Dead Men Raiding on WoW

Things are looking up :)  if it works it the step towards the light.

http://www.gossipgamers.com/modern-warfare-2-servers-cracked-within-days-after-release/

Quote from: Ninja_Freak;296433I thought you came across a bit too harsh for the guy's first post..
 
Also, TL your comment is valid and obviously Satch didn't find his way here because of our MW2 support.. Which is exactly why I thought that Blunt's comments were a bit OTT..
 
It wasn't exactly the warm welcome I've come to expect..

Well sorry if I was Blunt:g:
I didn't mean to be unwelcoming, I guess that written words can be misconstrued:)

Quote from: Blunt;296473Well sorry if I was Blunt:g:
I didn't mean to be unwelcoming, I guess that written words can be misconstrued:)

I have to my horror in the past been guilty of this.......but then discovered the smiley icon, it's your best friend for today's overly sensitive, overtly feminine touchy feely types!!:whistling2::stroke::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Quote from: Satch89;296453I was in Dead Men Raiding on WoW

What was your main/alt names?  It' would be nice to tie up an unknown forum name with a known WoW toon name!

I have the game too, and its not too bad. Its still playable and gives a nice break from wow for a bit. I mostly bought it to bridge the gap to the main rush of games coming out in december, and it will do that.  
 
I did find that some of the new unlocks take a while to get, and are a bit over the top. The silencer for the .50 cal works far to well in my opion, but it does seem to take a lot of punch out of the bullet, eventhough it wont mention that on the stat bars.
 
They did improve some stuff, like not having a lot of frags and claymores anymore, but on the other side they added some rocket and grenade launchers. Perks are better done too, and your most used ones can acctualy be upgraded (x kills with stopping power makes it do more dmg on airplanes and such). Streaks now have some 12 options you can pick 3 from (from UAV at 3, to Nuke at 25 streak).

Quote from: TeaLeaf;296477What was your main/alt names?  It' would be nice to tie up an unknown forum name with a known WoW toon name!

Satriani. Havn't been on in months tho

Quote from: Blunt;296473Well sorry if I was Blunt:g:
I didn't mean to be unwelcoming, I guess that written words can be misconstrued:)

 
With power comes great responsibility.. hmmm, hmrrmph (Yoda)

Parental warning, contains swearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgn2jugK_Hk
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:


What a male chicken.

Quote from: Benny;296569Parental warning, contains swearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgn2jugK_Hk
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:


What a male chicken.

He's got issues!  :blink:

Ok I was a dissapointed and a little narked but nothing like that!

Quote from: no peanuts;296570He's got issues! :blink:

What he said! :blink:
 
He defo should of cancelled his pre-order!

scary movie tbh,,,

Kid should just shoot himself, would make my day happy:devil:

Well pczone magazine just dropped through my letter box.

Its gold rated and got 94%

Quote from: Benny;296569Parental warning, contains swearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgn2jugK_Hk
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:


What a male chicken.

Here's a Spoof :D

Linky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCJwlh8H-qw&feature=player_embedded)

Quote from: GhostMjr;296901Well pczone magazine just dropped through my letter box.

Its gold rated and got 94%

All the reviews including users: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/modernwarfare2

Quote from: no peanuts;296902Here's a Spoof :D

Linky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCJwlh8H-qw&feature=player_embedded)

Now that made me laugh lol

Quote from: GhostMjr;296901Well pczone magazine just dropped through my letter box.

Its gold rated and got 94%

Well that's all right then. I'll go grab it. :eyebrow:

its funny, metascore 87
user rating 1.9...

i wonder whos baised :P

It's disgusting. None of the reviews I've read have even mentioned the lack of dedicated servers. It's all very if they were to say "online play without dedicated servers was enjoyable" or something like that...but they just pretend that it's a normal game I think there have been some deals going down behind the scenes.

Quote from: T-Bag;296952It's disgusting. None of the reviews I've read have even mentioned the lack of dedicated servers. It's all very if they were to say "online play without dedicated servers was enjoyable" or something like that...but they just pretend that it's a normal game I think there have been some deals going down behind the scenes.

Haven't you heard about the cases like for example with Assassins Creed 2 where all there magazines who got the preview before the game was launched had to agree only to say positive things about the game. If they didn't agree, they were not given the permission to see and play the game. Same thing with MW2 the reviewers tried the PC mp behind closed doors and in LAN, no wonder it works well.... Sad to see that money is the thing that talks. Ain't that illegal when the publisher tries to manage the reviews ? Or just slightly crossing the lines.

Quote from: Benny;296569Parental warning, contains swearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgn2jugK_Hk
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:


What a male chicken.

As one of the comments said: it would be something to be concerned about but he plays a PS3, so.............whatever.

Hello all for this weekend i found this game for only $10 on steam and thought this was a great price for a game series i really enjoyed. I have never played it on pc but look forward to trying it out i was wondering if at the next LAN would anyone be interested in play this with me and having a few games of this old game ?