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Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 01, 2009, 07:11:55 PM
I have just reinstalled Windows 7 64 bit and it won't see my local network. I'm running a hardwired network, my switch is a netgear RP614 set to act as a dhcp server. I had the 32bit version of windows 7 installed and that picked up its network address fine to start with and then just stopped working. I have tried hardcoding the ip address onto the network card but that makes no difference.My xp machine connected to the same network works fine.
 
 It appears that windows 7 isn't picking up the ip address from the dhcp server as it should. it gets a default address of 169.254.107.37 whereas my network is 192.168.0.0 I have put in the default gateway and the dns server addresses that my isp uses but this makes no difference.
 
 I have tried turning off the dhcp flag as recommended by microsoft in case that is the problem but that made no difference and it was working under 32 bit for a while without the flag turned off.
 
 I have installed the nforce drivers in case it was the windows drivers causing the problem that made no difference. I have run a network capture and that shows that it is seeing the dhcp packets from the dhcp server.
 
 I have done everything I can think of and everything I can find recommended by Microsoft but all to no avail. Any help with this greatly appreciated as I really like windows 7 and don't want to have to downgrade my system.
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2009, 07:44:17 PM
Could be that the MAC address of the NIC is associated with your previous build. Can you remove it from the DHCP leases on your router and then do /release/renew from new build?
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: no peanuts on April 01, 2009, 08:19:05 PM
169.254.* addresses are private. And I think you wont be able to send/receive anything over the network.

Have you made sure that the cat cable and the port on the router are working?

If they are, try setting the IP manually again to 192.168.0.something.
set the net mask to 255.255.255.0. And look up the gateway on your working PC.
It will most likely be 192.168.0.254. Leave the DNS entries blank.
Now try pinging your 2nd PC or your gateway.

Good Luck! :thumb:


Plenty info out there  (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=HNl&q=169.254.&btnG=Search&meta=)
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 01, 2009, 10:17:02 PM
Have tried hard coding the ip address but to no avail, also there is a known issue with some routers that if you have a dhcp server running even if you hardcode an ip address in the range the dhcp server on the router issues it won't pass any traffic from the nic as the address wasn't issued by the dhcp server.

Thanks BB but the problem 1st appeared on the old build I had. It worked and then it did intermittently and then wouldn't work at all. Ill clear out the help mac addresses though and see if that helps.
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: no peanuts on April 01, 2009, 10:37:24 PM
try "netsh winsock reset"  In a cmd-prompt and shutdown the machine when it asks to restart.
You could also try uninstalling the NIC. :g:
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 02, 2009, 08:43:23 AM
Just tried reseting winsock but that didn't change the situation. I'm going to try turning off the dhcp server and hardcoding the ip address onto the nic to see what difference that makes.

Thanks for the help so far.
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 02, 2009, 09:30:41 AM
I now get an error saying the default gateway is not available.

I know from running network monitor that its seeing the rip announcements the router makes, its also seeing the announcements that my other pc on the network makes.

I have removed and reinstalled the nics but that also makes no difference.
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: no peanuts on April 02, 2009, 10:36:06 AM
you said in your first post that you set the gateway to the one specified by your ISP.

make sure you set the gateway to your routers IP.

AFter running the winsock reset, did you power off the machine or simply reboot? Make sure it gets shutdown and do not just reboot.
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 02, 2009, 10:41:07 AM
No its set to the one on the router.

I powered off the machine and rebooted the router, waited for the router to come back up before powering up the machine again.

having had a google it seems a number orf folk with nforce nics are having this issue so I guess I'll have to downgrade until a driver update comes out!!

Thanks for all your help.
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: no peanuts on April 02, 2009, 11:02:03 AM
One last thing I  can think of would be to completely remove all networking components (add/remove windows components, untick "Networking components") from the OS and reinstalling after shutting down.
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Jabbs on April 02, 2009, 11:39:32 AM
I would also double check that the NIC's properties are set to default such as

Flow Control - Enabled


And remove any manually edited settings for DNS, WINS etc
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 02, 2009, 09:16:57 PM
Tried all of the above with no joy. After much forum action on various techie forums it turns out to be a windows 7/ nforce issue, a large number of other people are experiencing the same issue. I guess I'll have to downgrade until nvidia release a nforce windows 7 driver!!
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Anonymous on April 02, 2009, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Gh0st Face Killah;271120Tried all of the above with no joy. After much forum action on various techie forums it turns out to be a windows 7/ nforce issue, a large number of other people are experiencing the same issue. I guess I'll have to downgrade until nvidia release a nforce windows 7 driver!!

or throw a spare NIC in the box :)
Title: Local access only, unidentified network
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on April 02, 2009, 10:15:07 PM
Don't think I have any lying around atm which is unusual. I had a big clear out of spares/rubbish and some lucky freecycler got an old pIII with a box of bits and cables. I really needed the space. Mind you most of the boards I have been using recently have on board ones so haven't felt the need to keep any. Not that bothered I'll downgrade for now.